Very interesting subject and a wonderful conversation. I find it related to so many nations. Way before the Independence Day, a well known German explorer Alexander Von Humboldt saw a major RED FLAG and told Simon Bolivar: “I admire and respect those North Americans with ideals of liberty but I can’t understand why they are still holding human beings as slaves.” Here is when Bolivar understood that the Freemason were another form of monarchy with softer social reforms.