Frank Drake - Why Do We Search for Intelligent Aliens?

[@rileyhoffman6629]

RIP Frank Drake. Fascinating 'possibilitizer.'

[@Buzz_Kill71]

😊 if that's an actual word? 😊l

[@navneetmishra3208]

This legend died 6 days back.

[@lunarlight3131]

what?! who's taking over "closer to truth" than?

[@sol0matrix]

It's true sadly

[@Mastermindyoung14]

@@lunarlight3131 the guest

[@abelincoln8885]

But was he correct about existence & this reality ... before he died. The Function, Intelligence, & Mind Categories ... prove ... the Universe & LIfe are Functions composed entirely of Functions and were made by an very very powerful Intelligence with an UNNATURAL mind ( ie spirit/soul). The MInd of an Intelligence is UNNATURAL (spirit/soul). The Mind of Man is natural (brain) & unnatural (soul). Man is a body & soul ... made by a very very powerful intelligence with a SPIRIT. There are no Aliens out there. God made the Universe for Man .. to become His Children ... and Knew Man would sin, will have to be punished but could be saved by simply believing in God's only begotten Son. Are you absolutely certain what happens when your body dies ... when it ceases to FUNCTION?

[@vhawk1951kl]

Good, one fewer fool

[@andreasplosky8516]

"Why Do We Search for Intelligent Aliens?" Because it would be spectacular. The most spectacular discovery imaginable.

[@andreasplosky8516]

@Mark Us It is very unlikely they would be dumber than humans. I don't think it is possible.

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

Stop saying the "most blah blah blah." It wouldn't be, and YOU don't get to decide.

[@andreasplosky8516]

@@NeverTalkToCops1 Oooooh, don't cry, baby...

[@christianzupp]

His optimism was inspiring, RIP Dr. Frank Drake

[@browngreen933]

We want to find intelligent alien life to assure ourselves that we're not the only freak show in the universe. Because when you examine the history of life on earth, human being intelligence is definitely freakish.

[@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC]

*"We want to find intelligent alien life to assure ourselves that we're not the only freak show in the universe."* ... We seek intelligent alien life because we think they might have the answers to questions we've never been able to answer. Likewise, Existence has been evolving into higher forms of information to discover what it doesn't know about itself. In fact, Existence evolved into self-aware humans hoping that we might produce the answers.

[@jeffamos9854]

@@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC No ! We seek intelligent life so we can convert them to Jesus then conquer and kill them

[@vhawk1951kl]

I wonder if you understand that when you use the term "we" you are FOR all practical purposes saying "I", because the word "we means or points to the user of the term - that is*you*and his immediate interlocutor, and absent any immediate interlocutor, that only leaves you so in that remark where you use the term "we" you are effectively saying I", and if you wish to describe yourself as freakish, that is entirely your affair. Quite why you creatures are so terrified of the perpendicular pronoun and seek to hide behind an imaginary "we" has, I think, something to do with your weird religion modernism, which has a horror of individuality, of which of course few dreaming machines or men (human beings) are capable.

[@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC]

@@vhawk1951kl *"Quite why you creatures are so terrified of the perpendicular pronoun and seek to hide behind an imaginary "we" as I think something to do with your weird religion modernism, which is a horror of individuality, of which of course few dreaming machines or men (human beings) are capable."* ... I encounter a wide variety of strange follow-up responses to my comments. Yours falls into the top 10% of strangeness.

[@theliamofella]

@@vhawk1951kl what a load of nonsense

[@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC]

(7:40) *FD: **_"The problem is you don't know how much searching it's going to take until you've succeeded."_* ... Those who read my comments know that I consistently posit that Existence is *information* that constantly seeks out higher states of *information.* That's what Existence is all about, my friends. Existence will continue this search until it discovers an unbreakable level of *information* that compels it to stop. For 13.8 billion years, Existence has been evolving *information* from mathematics (data) to simple structure (subatomic particles), to complex structure (cosmos), to animated structure (life), and ultimately into cosmic self-awareness (humans). Yes, "WE" represent the highest level of *information* that exists in the known universe, ... _and science backs this claim!_ The reason why we seek extraterrestrial intelligence is for the same reason: because humanity is a microcosm of Existence. We are merely replicating what Existence has been doing from the very start. And as Mr. Drake astutely points out, ... we'll keep searching until we find something out there that compels us to stop. ... Existence in all its complexity is really quite simple.

[@blarglemantheskeptic]

Speaking of people this date here to flog a nonsense book...

[@ablebaker8664]

"... remember when you're feeling very small and insecure How amazingly unlikely was your birth... and pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space, 'cause there's bugger-all down here on earth." - Eric Idle, Trevor Jones (Monty Python's The Meaning of Life)

[@vhawk1951kl]

I doubt if men that are no more than dreaming machines would recognise Intelligence if it jumped out and bit them in the bum since they have little or no experience of any intelligence whatsoever and flatter themselves if they imagine that they are capable of intelligence

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

Drake equation provides focus for search of extraterrestrial intelligence?

[@rimbusjift7575]

No, it's a sequence of "if" and "thens".

[@ferdinandkraft857]

Maybe it's because we're tired of searching for intelligent humans.

[@blijebij]

xD

[@ingenuity168]

RIP Frank Drake 🙏🏻❤💔

[@Johnnied4life]

RIP legend

[@paultaylor7947]

I have been trying all my life

[@darthsideous1968]

Here's an equation, Frank + Drake = LIVING LEGEND 👍

[@Brajgamer]

RIP Drake.

[@mrshankerbillletmein491]

Faith in evolution is very strong even though it is not demonsrtable or testable.

[@cosmicpsyops4529]

Life instinctively pushes to proliferate and toward order.

[@vincentkillewald9315]

Why do we search for extraterrestrial intelligence? Because we have not been able to find intelligent life on this planet!

[@vhawk1951kl]

Do you - yes*you*search for "extra-terrestrial intelligence? Seemingly you do not quite grasp that when you use the word "we", you are for all practical purposes using the word "I", and that is because the word "we" means or indicates the user of the term and his immediate interlocutor, and since you have no immediate interlocutor, that just leaves you yes*you*so in practice you are saying that you search for what you call extra retro intelligence" for which there is not the slightest evidence of any at all, nor could there be given that the idea of aliens - so-called, is the invention or fantasy of imbecile children.

[@progyandas9650]

What a guy ...wow!!

[@iemandanders353]

Mass sightings, abductions and contacts notwithstanding, it's nice having an equation.

[@vhawk1951kl]

what " mass sightings? You are in the land of fantasy

[@jeffamos9854]

I want to believe

[@vhawk1951kl]

@@jeffamos9854 Yes, I rather suppose you do, that being characteristic of the passive and weak.

[@jeffamos9854]

@@vhawk1951kl the truth is out there

[@vhawk1951kl]

@@jeffamos9854 No, truth is in you or nowhere- or it is someone else's truth, for there is no truth that is not a particular experiencer's truth because truth *must* be verifiable by direct immediate personal experience or it is not truth. Truth " out there" is not and cannot* be truth, unless you are some sort of imbecile child that supposes truth to be a matter of passive acceptance without question or belief, and there is a simple test to establish whether or not Xis a credulous imbecile child, and it is the method having to do with the fallacy argumentum ad populum, which is an infallible test. Incredible as it may seem, there really are those that suppose that there is a democracy of truth and they are called 'imbecile children, and astoundingly there are millions of them. There *must* be or there would be no money in advertising, and you will not believe this but there really are some that that take notice of advertisements; astounding is it not? The lower classes are not called the lower classes for nothing, and thank god for them for the do all the work and one must get one's servants from somewhere.

[@davegrant7819]

What are the odds humanity will snuff itself out through its own technological advances in any given year? Now divide it’s reciprocal by a billion, for the chances humanity will last that long anyway.

[@MichalTerajewicz]

Because it’s fun. All we do in life is for fun, one way or another.

[@jimmycrosby]

Is that annoying noise in the background coming from Alpha Centauri... Frank was involved with work that will change our human culture, his passing is a sad day.

[@owencampbell2752]

Hope we find other existences to satisfy our curiosity even if we never come together

[@vhawk1951kl]

There is no "we"; "we" is imaginary - you are strictly on your own titch

[@sol0matrix]

The beings that responded to our Nasa message via cropcircle stated they are made of silicon instead of carbon they also use the same numeric systems maybe they passed these knowledge to us purely speculation of course but surely we shouldn't limit our thinking of what life can be made out of. The universe can create AI as well as organic life imagine a designer without limitation. What if machine life brought us here ?

[@lc2c177]

Great guy but his ideas are outdated and ignorant of the research another intelligence has existed on Earth since the beginning of recorded history.

[@TheLuminousOne]

They’re already here, Frankie baby.

[@vhawk1951kl]

Who told you that and why do you believe them? - All talk of aliens is a form of insanity, and there is only one country in the world that suppose there to be any such thing as aliens and that appears to be inhabited by imbecile children

[@em.1633]

RIP!

[@Bassotronics]

Why do we search for intelligent aliens? Because the stupid aliens are not worth searching for. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@david69funk]

Maybe they don't live on a planet but left theirs to live on ships.

[@jamesnordblom855]

Because they are easier to identify as alien when they walk up and do tricks for you.

[@joshuaa9513]

We search you intelligent life because our government's will not tell us about them.

[@mazmazoh]

Because we couldn't find any on this planet...

[@lcfdasoares]

to admit the possibility of intelligent life unlike ours is simply to admit the existence of angels and demons. y do aliens are acceptable while religious claims are not?

[@blarglemantheskeptic]

FFS. 🤦🏻

[@TurinTuramber]

Have people considered that Humans are not yet ripe to meet alien lifeforms. Maybe not ever.

[@garychartrand7378]

It's what our alien friends are considering right now while they are closely observing us. By the way, WE are the aliens to them.

[@TurinTuramber]

@@garychartrand7378 We would be lichen on a rock to them.

[@abelincoln8885]

I thought you were going to say ".... to eat." There are not Aliens out there. Any actual UFOs ... are demons who don't want you to believe in God, Creation and His Son, JC. The Function, Intelligence & Mind Categories .. prove ... the Universe & Life are Functions, composed entirely of functions are were made by a very very powerful Intelligence with an UNNATURAL Mind (soul/spirit). The Mind of an Intelligence is Unnatural (soul/spirit) The Mind of Man is natural (brain) & unnatural (soul) God did make Man with a body & soul less than 6000 years ago. Only an intelligence makes Functions. Only an intelligence makes Thermodynamic Systems. The only intelligence in the Universe ... is Man .... that God created to become His Children but they screwed up big time less than than 6 000 years ago, so God sent His Son to fix the mess. JC returns in the year 6 000 Anno mundi to rule for 1000 years. God had a reason for the 6 day creation & the 7th day belongs to God, and 1 day is equal to 1000 years. The Torah clearly states the Jews will reject the Messiah, be cursed by God ... but ... will repent their sins in end times and accept the Son of God. The current Jewish year is ... 5 782. Pretty certain that is off by at least 100 years because this world is on the fast track to complete annihilation in the next 100 years.

[@TurinTuramber]

@@abelincoln8885 You just spammed a load of theological garbage. I won't be reading it.

[@garychartrand7378]

@@TurinTuramber I think you underestimate us just as we do not consider our less intelligent creatures to be lichen. Ever had a cat or dog?

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

Might be humanity not expand into space; instead develop technological superintelligence that will expand into space?

[@vhawk1951kl]

You can hardly " develop" any kind of intelligence from quite clever meat incapable of experiencing or manifesting 'any' intelligence whatsoever; it is laughable to describe men as being capable of manifesting or experiencing intelligence, given that they are complete strangers to intelligence; they are so lacking in the capacity for intelligence that they latter themselves that there rather trivial and shallow occasional cleverness or ingenuity remotely approaches even a vague approximation of intelligence-which is so far above them as to be wholly inaccessible because they have no idea what intelligence is or might be, and would not recognise it if it jumped up and bit them in the bum since they are mo more than worthless pieces of dreaming meat; men speaking of intelligence is like fish speaking of bicycles. As they are - dreaming machines, Intelligence is way way out of their reach

[@farhadtowfiq6767]

A big parameter is missing here. Intelligent life, anywhere in the universe, can only evolve after a threshold in entropy of the universe. Entropy limits the level of complexity and certain complexity is needed before existence of an advanced civilization.

[@em.1633]

You have an overly anthropomorphisized view of what life is and how much were able to define it in the first place. Sean Carroll mentions in another of these vids that Stevan Wolfram showed in ANKOS that life can exist as 1 by 1 dimensional cellular automata.

[@vhawk1951kl]

The very idea that Intelligence could possibly unroll or evolve is indicative of a lack of familiarity with any sort of intelligence, which comes from above not from meat.

[@abelincoln8885]

Only an intelligence with a mind, free will nature & consciousness ... makes ... abstract & physical FUNCTIONS. A Function ... is a system that PROCESSES inputs into outputs, and has clear purpose, form, design & properties which are INFORMATION that every function possesses to exist & to function. Information comes only from the Mind of an Intelligence. There is no evidence that Nature & natural processes can make & operate the simplest physical Function 13.7 or 4 billion years ago. There is only evidence that a very powerful intelligence made the Universe & Life which are both Thermodynamic Systems (Functions). A religion ... is an organized FIRM BELIEF in something or someone responsible for Universe & Life. Either all of the religions are wrong or there is one & only one that is correct. The four major religions are: 1. Christianity ( a sect of Judaism that believes in an Almighty God) 2 Islam ( a pagan arab cult that believes in the moon(al Lah) & sun(Akbar) gods & a Black Stone, and claims to follow God). 3. Hinduism (a pagan sect that believes in multiple gods, & reincarnation) 4. Atheism/Materialism(belies in Nature & natural processes and the theories of Man). Yeah. Either all four are wrong or ... there is only one that is correct.

[@em.1633]

@@abelincoln8885 "Allahu Akbar" is just Arabic for "Allah the Great". Akbar is not a moon god. "Akbar" means "The Great". It is a word from Arabic that you can translate to English, like you can translate French to English. You may have schizophrenia, which causes your brain to find thought patterns like this logical when they aren't. Your brain sees a word "Akbar" and spits out a random meaning "sun god", and because your brain is not functioning right, the systems that realize that doesn't make sense don't kick in, and you assign truth to it. You might consider talking to someone about this.

[@abelincoln8885]

@@em.1633 Al = the/god. Lah = moon Only potatoes & donkeys believe the BS from Islam. Learn the truth about that Satanic cult .... from Christian Prince on YT. But how about you you apply some common sense instead of believing what liars are telling you. What proof has Mohammad provided that he is the last and greatest prophet of the God .... of the Torah, Gospel & Psalm? All the Prophets of the Torah, Gospels & Psalms are Jews ... repeat ... Jews. Moses is a great prophet of God, & a Jew, and spoke directly to God, and God was with him and the Jews coming out of Egypt & in the desert for 40 years. And yet Islam says Mohammad is greater than Moses. Jesus is a great prophet of God, & a Jew, that every Muslim knows was good man, never did evil, performed miracles, only did things that God can do, was born of a virgin mother because God made him, and is now in Heaven with God. But Mohammad is greater than Jesus. You potatoes know Mohammad had multiples wives, murdered & raped, was a slave owner & racist, ... performed no miracles ... made no true prophecies ... spoke only to Gabriel not God with no proof ... is dead & buried and waiting for we Jesus returns ... and yet somehow Mohammad is the last a greatest Prophet of God ... not Moses or Jesus? Bhahahahahhahaha. See. Only Potatoes & donkeys believe the complete BS of Islam. Islam claims ... the Jews & Christians have corrupted "The book" and only Allah sent Mohammad with the true word of God. Jesus in the New Testament promises a Heaven where everybody black/white, male/female ... will be made perfect like Him .. and will live with God forever as His Children in peace, love & harmony ... with no marriage or sex ... because we will be like the Angels in Heaven. Those disgusting Christians with their lies about Heaven? Allah promise a Heaven with endless sex with virgins so white you can see the marrow of their bones, and white men only will have huge dicks that will always be erect, and have 70 year orgasms and thousands of little boy servants for your pleasure. All blacks go to Hell and most in Hell are woman because Allah made them with half a brain, & have a monthly period instead of going to prayer. lol. Hmmmmm? Only a donkey & potato form Islam .... believes the Christians have corrupted the Gospels, with the lie that Jesus is the Son of God ... even though Jesus was born of a virgin MOTHER ... and ... God was his creator or Father ... and Jesus was a good & holy man who did things only God can do. LMFAO. What a sack of potatoes.

[@electricmanist]

Well there's a shortage on intelligence in this world.

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

Maybe superintelligent computers being developed are the beginnings of technology that will expand into space, whether or not with human beings?

[@donnacabot3550]

We search for intelligent life elsewhere because there’s no intelligent life on earth. Alien life don’t bother with earth, with the exception of a reminding probe, well, because have “we” met “us?” We are an evil self sabotaging and evil species. Unlike animals, who only take what they need, we destroy everything we touch, all the while, secretly receiving the odd probe or two. 🤣

[@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC]

*"We search for intelligent life elsewhere because there’s no intelligent life on earth."* ... Planet Earth is steeped in intelligent life. If you can't find it right outside your kitchen window, how to you expect to find it somewhere out in space? *"We are an evil self sabotaging and evil species."* ... Yet somehow, we've still managed to survive for over 300K years. *"Unlike animals, who only take what they need, we destroy everything we touch, all the while, secretly receiving the odd probe or two."* ... Feral hogs will unceasingly devour and multiply destroying everything around them when left unchecked. Only considering the dark side of humanity is not being very scientific.

[@witsend236]

Question. How do humans search for other life in the universe when they have never met another life form so cannot possibly know what to look for. Answer they build equipment that humans understand and use it to search space and guess what.... cannot find any other humans off this planet. Why because we are all here. Hi????? I'm here. We have no concept of what another intelligent life would be like so using human tools we may never find life that is quite possibly abundant out there. Just heard Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth of the uK has die. What a tragic loss.

[@nelsondnazariotorres8732]

Lmao what

[@vhawk1951kl]

*"Other"* intelligent life? What makes you imagine that men (human beings) are capable of experiencing or manifesting any sort of intelligence?

[@TurinTuramber]

The same math that make extraterrestrial life possible is the same math that makes interaction impossible. You cannot cherry pick your reality.

[@vhawk1951kl]

Whose "reality"? For some inexplicable reason, some of you creatures seem to imagine that there is something that you call "reality" to which you are not privy, moreover you have absolutely no idea what you mean by, and simply cannot begin to define, "reality"

[@maxwellsimoes238]

Searching alien are chanllege minds his imagination on alien are ridículos because he no open minds to figuret it out. He minds concern alien are narrow speculations.

[@AshesRising]

first!

[@ablebaker8664]

42nd

[@gogrape9716]

Who are WE humans to define intelligent ??? Too funny.....

[@vhawk1951kl]

I don't; " we" is imaginary.

[@vhawk1951kl]

@@joverstreet24 Betimes the sighted assist the blind, or those obviously or apparently blind.