Frank Lampard, Xavi Hernandez & Clarence Seedorf: START, BENCH OR DROP? | ESPN FC Extra Time

Ale Moreno, Mario Melchiot and Steve Nicol join Dan Thomas on ESPN FC Extra Time to answer:
0:00 Any takes on the penalty arguments?
1:30 If you're Gareth Southgate, are you starting Palmer at the EUROS?
2:16 As a manager, can you sense when your message isn't getting through?
6:30 Who's more likely to win the treble: Man City or Bayer Leverkusen?
7:15 Do Liverpool go all out on Thursday or play the youngsters?
8:13 Start, Bench or Drop: Lampard, Xavi or Seedorf
10:45 Which game was a more emotional match for you?
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[@punithkumarb9038]

Lampard and Seedorf are great, but Xavi won 2 trebles, 2 euros and a world cup. There is no competition. Xavi's 08/09 season is the best season for any midfielder ever.

[@redfordreddington8834]

This is about skillset not silverware

[@nitinpandey3616]

​@@redfordreddington8834 he was literally the system for delivery Bosque and pep

[@redfordreddington8834]

@nitinpandey3616 he was a benchwarmer until Pep took over.

[@nitinpandey3616]

@@redfordreddington8834 in what world a bench warmer plays 35 league matches a season? Negative iq displayed by u

[@punithkumarb9038]

​@@redfordreddington8834 He was on bench because he tore his ACL in '05. Will take a good year or two to recover from that. And for the skills he was considered a perfect midfielder, his pausa, vision, passing and ability to find spaces are unmatched.

[@emmanuelstephenson3844]

XAVI STARTS!!! Not even a question. He is a cut above.

[@bzilla1090]

Not really, he isn't as good as Seedorf defensively, or in attack, and seedorf is way more versatile as well, Seedorf can literally play anywhere in midfield and be great at it

[@EagleEyes77]

Why is Xavi starting?

[@blank1933]

no he does not ability wise he is literally the worst of the 3. before 2008 nobody is putting Xavi ahead of those two

[@user-bi1yw1du7q]

Cut above ? u are delusional sir. Xavi you need barca ball, or else he aint that good

[@steve13191]

I didnt even know seedorf is managing

[@bzilla1090]

He has been for years, he was in charge of us at Milan for a year

[@alphalijahsworld9010]

Seedorf and xavi together on the same team is a death wish to the opposition 😅

[@Fobol]

Funny that you compare Xavi who win it all vs any other midfielder

[@GIBBO4182]

Zidane won it all…even a ballon d’Or

[@zalemdreams]

@@GIBBO4182Ballon d'Or is an arbitrary, perception-based award that has produced a lot of aberrations. If it were based on merit alone, Xavi would've won one in the late 2000s. Xavi was more consistent than Zidane in terms of controlling play. But he was less spectacular which hurts the perception we have of him in relative terms.

[@GIBBO4182]

@@zalemdreams it's not exactly an arbitrary award, and the OP was implying that you can't compare anyone to Xavi...when of course you can

[@zalemdreams]

@@GIBBO4182 When Messi wins Ballon d'Or in 2010, it is proof that the award is vulnerable to arbitrary thinking. You can also make that case for Nedved. It's absurd that Xavi never won it, but his style of play - i.e. not spectacular - wasn't conducive to winning this award. But anyway, the only other midfielders in the same tier as Xavi are Mattheus and Zidane in the modern era.

[@GIBBO4182]

@@zalemdreams just because someone won it one time that you didn’t agree with, doesn’t make it arbitrary though!

[@sushantrawal2068]

Its not bad question xavi starts any day of the week then seedorf and lampard

[@Kwami357]

Do you know Seedorf, put some respect on him.

[@sushantrawal2068]

@@Kwami357 i know who seedorf is lol but he is not xavi level

[@thebat7048]

​@@sushantrawal2068You do know that Seedorf has won the same amount of champions league trophies as Xavi don't ya at 4 a piece 😒

[@adebusoyeolumide1410]

Where is his world cup then if youre going with this logic technically xavi is way ahead of seedorf ​@@thebat7048

[@Adam9588ronaldo]

Bad answer by you lol who are you again 🤨 He is legend

[@GuidedInshallah-ow4bl]

Xavi is a starter lol

[@EagleEyes77]

Why?

[@user-bi1yw1du7q]

Nop.

[@4chanFootballMemes]

Xavi > Seedorf >>> Lampard

[@FredEmberg4444]

Nonsense. Lampard is the greatest English footballer in history and yes, everyone agrees he was better than Gerrard, Scholes, Gascoigne and Charlton combined,

[@sld1776]

And Xavi is the greatest player in Spain's history.

[@tamnadvardis7039]

Stop seedorf is better than xavi ,xavi only good at number 6 position

[@samysamosam]

@@FredEmberg4444 did you say best English player in history lmao?

[@jeffreyjeffery4712]

​@@tamnadvardis7039Nonsense. Xavi is simply better and can play anywhere in midfield. Won the World Cup with Spain playing the number 10 position and mostly played 8 for Barcelona.

[@Kwami357]

Clarence Seedorf is a legend 🙌 👏 He has won UCL trophy with different teams.

[@bzilla1090]

Seedorf just for the sheer versatility and being excellent in every position literally. Better than both Lampard and Xavi defensively. Great in attack, great centrally or on the wing. He literally played everywhere for us at Milan, in his final years he was even playing as a inside for behind the striker with Kaka, and that brought us the 2007 Champions League. Seedorf was just something else, Champions league titles with Madrid, Ajax, and 2 with us at Milan. Incredible footballer.

[@Lioness_UTV]

I really enjoy this particular panel with Dan as host. It's interesting how the interactions are different depending on who is there. I do enjoy Craig's salty moodiness and he has some interesting takes but sometimes he is too domineering. Dan is the only one that can shut him down when he goes too far but I have noticed some feisty exchanges between Jan and he. Makes for good TV.

[@jeffreyjeffery4712]

Xavi is just a level above the rest, there's no debate.

[@Wallacenawa]

Did you people not watch Seedorf? BEAST...🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@luca99191]

How is that question even hard about Xavi, lampard and seedorf? A clear win Xavi not even debatable

[@Orion4976]

Xavi is the greatest playmaker of all time. Theres been none better than him at that particular position. He even made FIFA's all time best 11 a few years back, and would have won the Ballon D'Or in 2010 if someone other than Iniesta had scored the winning goal for Spain in the WC final (they took a lot of votes from each other which made Messi win it when he was 3rd favourite that year).

[@lindokuhlehimslf8026]

I love EXTRA TIME WITH STEVIE AND ALI . That's the only EXTRA TIME I watch

[@bobich1244]

Lampard, Xavi, Seedorf could be a wonderful midfield all 3 together.

[@toddmg]

Seedorf was not good enough on the ball to hang with Xavi. Madrid let him go and Inter benched him.

[@alessandrogiovinazzo7357]

What do you have in your heart Steve? Cholesterol!😂😂😂😂

[@wisdom21all]

Welcome Ale❤

[@EpicGammingCrew]

Unbiased king Mario. Drops seedorf after just texting him the other day lol

[@CoconutJewce]

2:20 This whole question is an argument for getting rid of players like Rashford, Shaw, McTominay, et al. Pretty much any player at United that's gone through 4 different managers with 4 different styles and still can't cut it needs to be removed. The problem is the Glazers don't allow managers to do that.

[@ezatullahfarazi9838]

Xavi is the whom coach can trust with the ball. He keeps the ball like no other players and distribute like a charm.

[@lankywang9543]

Couldn't the exact same points stevie's using for porch be said about ten hag?

[@Henry-sg9if]

Exactly 😂

[@samuelgizaw7899]

14:09 😂😂

[@kw3341]

Was or is Ale a manager????????

[@JarrettMehldau]

Xavi is a deep laying playmaker, Seedorf is a box to box CM, Lampard is a goal scoring CAM. You can play them all at the time.

[@sevvvs]

Stevie’s cold 🥶 when actual men played football

[@RazeefRazeff]

Pep set the standard to make other club to be a success in a matter of 1 - 2 seasons ... klopp took 3 seasons to make Liverpool top team again .. Ferguson took 3-4 seasons to make m.u. great again.. that's why Chelsea & m.u. in the last 2-3 years keep changing managers . The mindset nowadays is to be a success in just one season.

[@anatoliybakaev600]

Xavi > Seedorf > Lampard

[@shanzyvz5023]

Xavi obv starts. I'd pick prime seedorf over prime lampard, but it's so close. Can't go wrong with either really

[@ged999]

Chelsea can't sign players and they are likely to face big points penalty next winter... (these ESPN contributors constantly forget this)

[@daviddenham1511]

Believe me, Liverpool won’t be arsed against Atalanta……concentrating on the PL

[@user-zn4hs8ky5q]

12:38 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ambrosearuwa9458]

Men without Honour

[@jettstewart2372]

stevie spitting facts about giving the manager a chance, so many plastic fans expect a manger to come in and make instant change or impact yes xabi alonso did it but that’s not the normal… it takes time, and the fans these days will never understand that and shout get them out after 1-2 bad seasons

[@CoconutJewce]

5:40 Stevie is ETH in, apparently. And rightfully so.

[@zalemdreams]

Xavi is the greatest central midfielder of all time ahead of or alongside Mattheus.

[@ousmanjammeh5776]

Don't compare xavi to any midfield of his position because the world have never seen any of him. Simply the best in world football.

[@geezee9208]

Seedorf, Xavi, Lampard

[@nwu.kidding]

Quite hypocritical there from Mr Nicol regarding giving managers time cause I remember, him and his positivity pal calling for Ten Hag to get the sack! Why does he not deserve to be gvien the "4 years it took Fergie to get rid of his players"?

[@BarkingRef_BlameLona]

These dumbos at EPL, Madrid won 2 UCLs bcoz of Seedorf especially during the time united, ac milan, bayern, inter, dortmund were all insane!!

[@Wallacenawa]

Seedorf>Xavi>Lampard

[@dapperdon2240]

There could be 2 treble winners

[@historianofmanythings4294]

Just put saka at left back and start Palmer on the right. Saka is really overrated to me.

[@FredEmberg4444]

agree,,,,,one trick pony who will peak and fade by age 24

[@SkatePvP10]

Start xavi bench seedorf and sub him on for someone else right away

[@daviddenham1511]

Get a grip!…..palmer no way to start……he’s way down the order!

[@toddmg]

Seedorf was merely very good. That’s it. Imo overrated. Slow to read the game.

[@franciscoalvarado4320]

Dumbest question ever. Xavi won a league title

[@sld1776]

Xavi is the best Spanish player in history. Come on, man.

[@Asanney]

Seedorf starts for me. Xavi is better than Lampard but with no Iniesta along side him the telepathic play associated with him iis not the same. Seedorf gives you the qualities of both and he's physically stronger so if it's to choose just one I'm picking him, benching Xavi, and dropping Frank.

[@colegreen9504]

Bad take bro 😂

[@youngking9024]

Nah 😅

[@C.J1106]

2006 world cup plus iniesta played as a winger in the great spain teams

[@FredEmberg4444]

Nonsense. Lampard is the greatest English footballer in history and yes, everyone agrees he was better than Gerrard, Scholes, Gascoigne and Charlton combined,

[@Asanney]

@@FredEmberg4444 Everyone is entitled to their opion and there are people here who've responded to my post disagreeing with me and that's fine...... but.....if you think Frank Lampard is a better player than Paul Gasgoine.......you need to stop watching Football and go play Golf or something. Absolute nonsense.

[@user-sw7cr1mu5t]

You do know English players are overrated when you’re comparing them to other elite players.. lampard isn’t even close to these two

[@blank1933]

Lampard was literally the best of the 3 whist they were playing lmao

[@soumikmondal7179]

Over hyped English man😂😂😂😂

[@obioraokoye4377]

Where is the GOAT, that will win the UCL for us, Luis Enrique himself??? Bruh, madddd.

[@drty8765-ef1fd]

He won't win you the ucl so just shut up. Even Villa would beat you 5-0🤣🤣🤣

[@BlaugranaCuler79]

Dream on, bro! Dream on😏

[@PSG_Supremacy]

​@@BlaugranaCuler79 Your club will be humbled today 😉

[@PSG_Supremacy]

​@@drty8765-ef1fd Lmao you again? This Assnal fan is so jealous of PSG, he just can't stop talking about us everywhere 😂

[@PSG_Supremacy]

​@@drty8765-ef1fd You again? 🤡 Bro can't stop talking about PSG everywhere, he dreams of his club being as great as ours 😉

[@daviddenham1511]

Man dis-United are as about as stale as they come…..

[@johnkalungi6377]

Play lampard, bench seedoff and drop xavi.

[@Mredkin]

1. Lampard 2. Seedorf 3. Xavi

[@rohitnair9022]

Stop disrespecting Xavi like this

[@RobsonFootball]

BARCELONA WILL LOSE THE FINAL TO ARSENAL

[@drty8765-ef1fd]

yes we will win the ucl

[@RobsonFootball]

@@drty8765-ef1fd you believe too ❤️

[@drty8765-ef1fd]

@@RobsonFootball winning the ucl against the odds would be incredible

[@VISHRUTSHENOY]

Start: Frank Lampard Bench: Xavi Hernandez Sell: Clarence Seedorf

[@jeffreyjeffery4712]

Xavi > Seedorf >> Lampard

[@footballdata68]

Xavi > Seedorf >>> Lampard