Fraymakers in 2025 (Is it Doomed?)

[@Aeirion]

I'm happy you don't constantly gas up this game. You're trying your best while still being honest with yourself. I was so excited, but what threw me off was the small roster and the game now actually feeling good movement wise. Like, I think the mechanics are sick! I was so excited for Watcher. The problem is that nobody wants to play a game with no players. We need a lot of players to have the game be actually playable. But how do we get that? Probably what you said: a character who brings everyone in from a big game. I don’t know what it would take honestly. Like even if we get Zagreus from Hades or literally anyone from Undertale, how many people would keep playing? I hope it gets better. Even if I don't love the game at it's core, I want nothing more than to see it succeed.

[@Sharky_0456]

i feel like a cuphead character is what this game needs

[@ryanarcher2940]

Character 7 was stated to have an animated trailer, and we only get two of those at the least, so it's likely not someone niche.

[@Dapuffster]

Almost bought the "get your own OC assist" for $1500 during the kickstarter, but lost it due to all the slots filling up. Giving how this game is struggling and how those were due in 2023, guess it's kind of a good thing I couldn't get it LOL. I feel bad for the other people who backed that tier. Wonder how they're doing.

[@decas5505]

Taking 8 months just for the devs to add a single character or a single assist is hurting the game a lot All of the things they are adding as an "update" were already promised to be in the early access Also i dont want to be rude, but using your youtube stats as "proof" the game is still relevant isnt as good as you think it is, specially for a 200k channel that is averaging 1k-10k views (5% of views) or your most viewed video this year 42k views (21% of views) The problem the game has is that the devs overhyped the game when it was barely in development, and unless they start having a better organization internally (and more money), i dont think the game is going to release anytime soon

[@gaming27110]

True

[@jumpupsupbarhorn]

The next character has to really blow it off the water in terms of popularity, hopefully. I am a defender of the picks for the current roster being more classic/obscure but I understand we need something super liked that brings a lot of people in. I finally replayed the game this month after I got a new PC and god the rollback is incredibly good, I had a match with my friend that usually will lag a lot and it went smooth as butter. The movement being more Smash-adjacent is something I like a lot too, so I'm hoping nothing but the best. It's probably gonna be difficult, but I hope we get there

[@skeletonfan6735]

It’s not doomed because we have the fray gun which is epic and awesome :)

[@captainhydrodus4616]

I just haven't had the chance to pick it up

[@TechV02]

fraymakers isssss hard to defend its mcldeodgaming doing a mcleodgaming ssf2 needed like what, 12 years to be good? like thats crazy :/

[@josephsharp6221]

It’s not doomed because they’ll begin releasing the ballot characters, and the first will probably be Specter Knight

[@Ink_ebic]

Welltaro side special will save fraymakers, count my word

[@thezapman1936]

I have a cynical take but seeing as fraytools is arguably the best custom content creation tool for plat fighters in terms of straight potential it would be very interesting to see if in the case that the games development gets cancelled the whole engine and game get given to the community for free so people can feely work on the engine without a price wall. I always thought of this game as having the potential to be the definitive MUGEN of the genre and seeing it get shafted into low player counts feels sad

[@ReindeerHummus]

It’s not even really out yet, I feel like this is a Multiversus Beta situation where we KNOW it’s gonna pop off when the full release comes out. And unlike Multiversus there isn’t gonna be greedy battlepasses and shop deals :D

[@monokomomo4977]

thing is multiverse you only have time to waste since noone is forcing you to buy stuff while for fray you have to buy the game so it makes it risky if someone new wants to buy the game knowing how low the playercount is and how slow updates are, let alone early acess is something people tend to get iffy on due to how some early acess games are either finished or forever limbo hell due to issues

[@ReindeerHummus]

@ that true, didn’t think about that. It’s more that Multiversus makes it harder to even play the game unless you pour hours into it, it’s not like Fortnite where your just paying for cosmetics, you gotta pour months in just to unlock the roster, let alone all the perks you need to get for each character to make them viable

[@jordanwhite352]

Me An Older Millennial: HOLY NOSE! 👃🏾👃🏾👃🏾👃🏾👃🏾👃🏾

[@himynameisexo]

I know character 7 >B)

[@captainbeatdown6254]

to be frankly fair, never knew aboht it till i seen this video

[@Oofman64]

Nuh it’s not doomed it’s just an early access and things will get better later on

[@Oofman64]

I think the team should hire like more people to like animate for the game but I guess you know the leaks from super smash flash two kind of like make them scared to hire like new people to work on the project I’m guessing

[@erickr6400]

Hey, two questions: Is the game about to leave early access? The steam page says 2 years of EA and it started in 18th of January 2023. Have they said anything of an extension or should I buy now to avoid the price increase? Do we have any hints on anything? Been a good while since the last assist reveal.

[@braxaculee]

when they add more characters ill buy it. but right now I dont see a reason to

[@Sharky_0456]

honestly i find fraymakers better than rivals of aether, if you treat it like gmod then it doesnt seem so bad

[@Beastmd]

Still hype for the game

[@sparklertv6637]

No, it's not since I still see new community workshop contents. Just need devs to speed up the updates and contents.

[@EudaemonYoutube]

Game made me refund in an hour. I’m a massive SSF2 fan but man the lack of single player content kills Fraymakers. Without any goal to work towards you better enjoy making combos of the same like 4 characters. It’s like if you played Minecraft but you can only do creative, no multiplayer or mobs. Still I have hope and I’ll by the game upon its full release.

[@PeacockLover127]

you play ssf2 for the single player?

[@EudaemonYoutube]

@SSF2 has enough content in it for me to go ‘I’m bored, I’ll just play someone else’ and yeah Classic can be fun. Fraymakers ain’t got shit

[@skykyosuke7628]

This is kinda why the custom content community has been leaning towards making stages dedicated to single player experiences, the lack of single player content is really jarring unfortunately even if you play with customs

[@skykyosuke7628]

in Minecraft creative mode’s defense though you can absolutely play Minecraft in only creative, you can just build shit and make redstone stuff and mess around with mods or just blow a bunch of shit up. Like there’s still a lot to do in creative even if you don’t have a specific objective

[@EudaemonYoutube]

@@skykyosuke7628 yeah that’s fair but the average audience for gaming, especially indie game fans who play octodad lmao aren’t gonna be spending hours playing the same 4 characters making combos of vids like redstone. It’s like equating grinding to content in an RPG. Sure, it can be fun for some people and the end result could be worth but your audience is t going to get that message and it’ll harm you player base. It’s poor game design on Fraymakers part to have their community make their game for them and rely on a niche market for sales

[@nepharite]

I think Fraymakers needs to go free to play (at least for the time being) in order for the game to pick up traction again. Its main competitor, Rivals 2, also costs money but offers much more content than Fraymakers does, and Workshop support needs a dedicated community to keep Fraymakers alive. As for a way to make money, I think the easiest way they could do it is by offering paid skins for characters and assists. Maybe it's not the best decision or even a smart decision, but I think the price of Fraymakers is the biggest thing holding back its growth right now.

[@memoman_yt]

Overwatch 2 ass, do not let bro cook

[@revolution4189]

Really want to try this game but not for money it is right know

[@willium2215]

you look great

[@Indignation6]

Yes

[@PeacockLover127]

I hope they add. uhm. anton blast

[@TaviiCatniss]

This game is omega cooked

[@mizu6891]

No it’s not doomed because An Shiraishi will carry us

[@TheEquation93]

hmmmmm