FREDDIE ROACH ANALYZES RONDA ROUSEY'S BOXING SKILLS AND LOSS; RECALLS WORKING MITTS WITH HER

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"Losing a fight sometimes makes you better...what really counts is what you do after a loss...does she really want to learn how to box...that kick was a pretty good kick...she was a good fighter along the way...they picked good opponents," stated Hall of Fame trainer Freddie Roach, who shared his thoughts on Ronday Rousey's loss to newly-crowned UFC women's bantamweight champion Holly Holm. Check it out!

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@bobfalfa76
@bobfalfa76 7 жыл бұрын
He could do more with Ronda's striking in 3 months than Edmond has done in years
@bobfalfa76
@bobfalfa76 7 жыл бұрын
Great Lakes and he's had a stroke!!
@bobfalfa76
@bobfalfa76 7 жыл бұрын
Great Lakes I always thought it was a stroke..oh well,you learn something new every day
@foorankoo9274
@foorankoo9274 7 жыл бұрын
WTF was Edmond doing all this time? But RR is also to blame. She's lives in a fantasy and Edmond Tranvestitean was part of that fantasy
@bobfalfa76
@bobfalfa76 7 жыл бұрын
Great Lakes I was too young through most of 80's to appreciate boxing although I did watch Tyson fight whenever I could,I didn't start really appreciating it until the 90's.
@bobfalfa76
@bobfalfa76 7 жыл бұрын
Great Lakes Today's boxers just tend to stand there head to head,hold all the time and only open up if they get lucky. They go 12 rounds and don't even look like they've been in a fight. At least in MMA they go for it.
@godtube1014
@godtube1014 7 жыл бұрын
Ronda should've accepted Mayweathers training when he offered
@mrgreeneye656
@mrgreeneye656 7 жыл бұрын
I agree, two words...Too proud..for her own good.
@lookwaticando909
@lookwaticando909 7 жыл бұрын
what training ...two punches in they would have called out her bull shit and probably knocker her ass out there
@TheMendo123
@TheMendo123 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly that was nice from Floyd but the Mayweather style of boxing isn't the most effective style for MMA
@sirdetmist3204
@sirdetmist3204 7 жыл бұрын
Anton Chigurh he didnt have to teach her a mayweather style shes to basic for that just the basics of blocking and punching
@TheMendo123
@TheMendo123 7 жыл бұрын
Stephen Whitemore She'd still be better off seeing another coach. Maybe Dewey Cooper, he's always at Mayweather's gym anyways, and he knows about MMA too
@darknessfadestolight4312
@darknessfadestolight4312 7 жыл бұрын
Freddie , such a class act to boxing. brilliant fight mind on this man.
@ThunderLips730
@ThunderLips730 7 жыл бұрын
whats funny about that?
@JohnSmith-oe5kx
@JohnSmith-oe5kx 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. Watch him do everything to avoid having to say that Rousey's boxings skills were laughable, he lets you read between the lines.
@mykylc
@mykylc 8 жыл бұрын
It's so sad that so many do not know Holly's history.
@martyfowler3072
@martyfowler3072 8 жыл бұрын
+mykylc yes, only a few that either actively follow boxing or just happened to of gotten into watching boxing would have had some idea that she was a boxer and a kick boxer by watching her fights. Having 11 years of boxing that's given her over 30 something wins and has given her the experience and knowledge that's made her a great boxer. As well as kickboxing for a short time and debuting in MMA in 2011 ( I think that's the correct year). Holly has definitely earned her way into MMA. She did impress me when she picked up Ronda and slammed her, has kept a stand up fight and not a ground fight, and avoided Ronda's clench, wrist grabs/locks and attempted hip toss.
@joeygonzo
@joeygonzo 8 жыл бұрын
+mykylc Did you bet on that 20-1 odds?
@mykylc
@mykylc 8 жыл бұрын
+Joey Gonza It was at 14-1 when I placed mine.
@joeygonzo
@joeygonzo 8 жыл бұрын
mykylc Good going .
@mykylc
@mykylc 8 жыл бұрын
+James Toney BOOM!
@HAWXTER12
@HAWXTER12 7 жыл бұрын
Everyone around Ronda was improving while she was stuck in the status quo. Ditch the coach or retire, simple.
@Tbirdication93
@Tbirdication93 7 жыл бұрын
Everyone except the ones in Edmond's camp! Travis Brown's stand up has gotten WAAAY worse.. Used to have sick movement for a HW now it's weak AF.
@dontbeadrone
@dontbeadrone 5 жыл бұрын
Arrogance.
@iskindersam4899
@iskindersam4899 4 жыл бұрын
Great point she chilled at the top and stop once she got there
@adamspeckert7296
@adamspeckert7296 5 жыл бұрын
1:56. “They picked good opponents for her.” That says it all.
@keithsa41
@keithsa41 7 жыл бұрын
best quote of this interview: "Nothing is really fair in life" 3:21
@gouki1231
@gouki1231 8 жыл бұрын
Aside from his opinions, I couldn't help but notice that it looks like his parkinson jitters is getting so much better now
@MrTarkus007
@MrTarkus007 7 жыл бұрын
i really like freddy i find he is a very intelligent man he don't trash talk he says it the way it is
@emlynlewis2830
@emlynlewis2830 8 жыл бұрын
It's great to see boxing guys have a realistic assessment of MMA, not saying the ridiculous shit like Tyson Fury who says that MMA guys simply are people who can't box and that he could beat Cain Velasquez in the sport. There shouldn't be a boxing vs MMA feud, it's understandable that boxing feels threatened by it because boxing has been the dominant combat sport for more than a century, but in the same way MMA has elevated jiu jitsu, wrestling, judo, kickboxing and karate to a more mainstream audience I think it does so for boxing because they are all elements of the game.
@krauser6662
@krauser6662 7 жыл бұрын
Obviously she doesent want to learn. She took a whole year off and didn't do anything. She could have focused on boxing and came back and been a completely different fighter. She was a punching bag for 48 seconds and didn't even try to move her head. It was very hard to watch, and it's very clear she had no business fighting for a title. Next fight she should be in the pre-lims
@Youre_Right
@Youre_Right 7 жыл бұрын
KRAUSER 666 She is done. She is broken. Her confidence is shattered. She is scared. After that first hard shot from Nunes she totally shut down.
@CraigMansfield
@CraigMansfield 7 жыл бұрын
KRAUSER 666 I know, a year off and still can't box for shit. Was in great condition, but........... can't box
@mikehunt4797
@mikehunt4797 7 жыл бұрын
Never could box!
@5cent27
@5cent27 7 жыл бұрын
She's really bad, period. She has really bad foot work, really bad footwork, really bad head movement, really bad punch mechanics, etc. Just because she is physically stronger than the average person doesn't mean she is a good boxer. She isn't has actually looks like her boxing got much worse for the Nunes fight.
@ianbeale7710
@ianbeale7710 7 жыл бұрын
she also cant take a punch for shit
@genericgeorge
@genericgeorge 7 жыл бұрын
She took a lot of huge shots and still didn't go down.
@ianbeale7710
@ianbeale7710 7 жыл бұрын
yeh but she was rocked with 5-10 seconds
@scaccu
@scaccu 7 жыл бұрын
tbh she hasn't footwork at all.
@genericgeorge
@genericgeorge 7 жыл бұрын
Ian Beale She was out on her feet but she never quit like many others have done. Outclassed but you can't question her courage and heart.
@TheRbruin10
@TheRbruin10 7 жыл бұрын
This guy may talk funny but he is smart and knows what he is talking about when it comes to fighting. Nothing but knowledge and truth bombs, Freddie Roach my respects
@MsMoneyHunny1
@MsMoneyHunny1 8 жыл бұрын
Freddie's just hyped Ronda up a little. Even if Ronda learns boxing basics she still will not handle Holly. Holly has 19 titles in boxing. Come on Freddie, be honest. Say what it is. Ronda will need some years of training . Also , the problem here and before the fight. Peoples underestimated Holly, she has multiple titles in kick boxing , did some wrestling.. Ronda will not outclass Holly, not in this lifetime. Holly is very competitive with a championship mindset.
@FatherofFFD
@FatherofFFD 8 жыл бұрын
+MsMoneyHunny1 and +Don Jacare I couldn't agree more. I don't think Freddie was hyping up Ronda, I think he was just showing compassion. But he was right, Ronda would have to learn to box to be a more well rounded fighter. That said, she doesn't have time on her side to learn enough about boxing to compete with Holly. It's just the same with any art. I could spend every day for the rest of my life playing the violin (I'm 46 years old), but that doesn't mean you'll hear me playing at Carnegie Hall. To reach that caliber, I would've had to have started 40 years ago, and be a prodigy. So even time spent is no guarantee that you'll reach the pinnacle of any endeavor. But, what else are we going to do with our lives? Might as well try to be the best at something. But I digress... Holly beats Ronda 10 out of 10 matches. She's just the perfect storm to offset Ronda, and frankly, probably every fighter in that weight class. They're all taking notice & stepping up their boxing, but learning how to box is not the same as being a boxing champion. If it was that easy, a third of the population or more would be champions. Peace.
@paulinthailand
@paulinthailand 8 жыл бұрын
+MsMoneyHunny1 she culd never be on parr in boxing but a little muay thai will equalize holms boxing/kickboxing
@MrBmw330izhp
@MrBmw330izhp 8 жыл бұрын
+FRE FLO DO MMA opened the door for a lot of people that normally would be sitting on the couch watching boxing an outlet to get in a ring and fight. It's sort of like how youtube gave a lot of people an opportunity to be famous and make money that normally wouldn't. Look at Henry Cejudo. He won an Olympic gold in wrestling now he's in MMA. If it weren't for MMA he'd be bagging groceries somewhere. Same with Rousey. She'd still be bartending and sleeping in her car. From what I hear if it wasn't for youtube there would be no Bieber.
@agengsatya2915
@agengsatya2915 7 жыл бұрын
Don Jacare agreed, the basic element of muay thai is bone conditioning, without it doing low kick may causing leg broken.
@7dayspking
@7dayspking 6 жыл бұрын
Why does holly throw slappy punches like an MMA fighter if she's a champion boxer? Why does she stick her arms out in front and not cover herself when throwing a punch? MMA is obviously different than boxing so obviously the footwork is going to be different. When the two fought I couldn't tell the difference between Ronda and Holly...both threw the same arm punches (except Holly had a cross, she used that 3 or 4 times.), both slapping with everything that wasn't straight.
@easterbuny2226
@easterbuny2226 7 жыл бұрын
WHY DOES EVERYBODY TO BE SO POLITICALLY CORRECT . CANT HE JUST SAY SHE SUCKS . IF SHE COMES BACK AND WINS THE BELT ITS A FIX
@larrytate1657
@larrytate1657 8 жыл бұрын
Watch as he says they picked good opponents and so forth for Ronda as he begins to cover his mouth. What he rly thought was the competition sucked. Any pro fighter that gets arm barred in under one minute, knowing that that's what they have to defend going into the fight sucks. If you're a pro fighter and lose in under a minute it needs to be lights out knockout. But if you're tapping for the ref to stop the fight in under a minute u have not trained enough to call yourself a pro fighter yet. This was the case with quite a few of Rondas opponents.
@periechontology
@periechontology 7 жыл бұрын
Ronda beat three fighters who took out Nunes.
@MrFafman
@MrFafman 8 жыл бұрын
What the Rousey loss does is once again remind us of the skill level required in professional boxing. Few in MMA can box at that level, so when a skilled boxer meets an MMA fighter the MMA fighter's only chance is to get it to the mat quickly.
@karenprescott5518
@karenprescott5518 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly! MA people always act superior to boxers and this will challenge that idea and humble the MA people.
@arturoangelsanchez
@arturoangelsanchez 7 жыл бұрын
I like when Roach talks Sense, and yes I think he could train her
@coryleeboxing3047
@coryleeboxing3047 8 жыл бұрын
Great interview with the roach he was good this time not talking crazy about manny gonna win then retracting saying manny shouldn't of fought SMFH good interview this time 😝😝😝😝
@S.P.E.A.R.
@S.P.E.A.R. 7 жыл бұрын
Mitts Convo starts at 2:22 Your welcome.
@joevald3
@joevald3 7 жыл бұрын
Freddie roach is brutally honest but right
@ForzaAquila
@ForzaAquila 8 жыл бұрын
Several months ago freddie was looking like shit. Good to see he's faring a bit better.
@daviddelarosa5196
@daviddelarosa5196 6 жыл бұрын
freddie knows his shit
@Trolololeos
@Trolololeos 8 жыл бұрын
"ershafabrenibberummarabamangorasheringinerb" - Freddie Roach 2015
@zayhertz-deeprest878
@zayhertz-deeprest878 7 жыл бұрын
Ronda has specific aspects of boxing that are an asset, but she needs to raze everything Edmund instilled in her and rebuild from the base. With the right trainer, I think she could be a quick study
@deautrs79
@deautrs79 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to learn from Freddie Roach.
@paolo2012
@paolo2012 7 жыл бұрын
she would have to learn how to box...aka she don't know how
@RodLobLaw
@RodLobLaw 7 жыл бұрын
She spent the next 13 MONTHS with the same phony "boxing coach" in Edmond Tarverdyan instead of going to Freddy's Gym Fuck there is Video of Cyborg in Roy Jones JR gym... and SURPRISE she gets merked. Bas Ruten is spinning in his grave. I know Bas isn't dead but to Rosey he must be because thats ONE MORE coach better than Edmond.
@mushin78
@mushin78 8 жыл бұрын
I am not expert,but It seemed the problem it wasn't only the boxing skills,it was also her shitty cardio.She was exhausted after the 1 round.If you look their bodies,Ronda looked out of shape,and Holly looked very fit..Just an opinon
@kivisuemai8563
@kivisuemai8563 8 жыл бұрын
+Matias K ronda just too aggressive. couldn't fight hollys fight. shes never had to fight toe to toe with a fighter. burnt herself out.
@CzarinaMcCoy
@CzarinaMcCoy 8 жыл бұрын
It would be more of the same in a rematch....Holly rocks!!!!
@Doberman144
@Doberman144 7 жыл бұрын
Rhonda's biggest enemy is herself and her attitude .. If she was humble and respectful she would not be receiving the beating that she is thru the media .. If she learns anything now it is to change her disposition and be humble and respectful to her opponent and don't say stupid shit to the media that will come back and haunt you . Her bragging about beating everyone has come back to haunt her as there is always someone better out there and she has recently met two of them ..
@xndly
@xndly 7 жыл бұрын
I remember Freddie training Arlovski and he was toying with fedor.. then he went for that flying knee ;;
@youmakemelaugh2022
@youmakemelaugh2022 8 жыл бұрын
Sorry Freddie, but I must disagree. There isn't enough time in the career of Ronda Rousey to even approach the skill level in boxing of Holly Holm. Rousey's only chance to beat Holm in a rematch, is to get Holm on the ground-period!
@alldayeveryday20able
@alldayeveryday20able 6 жыл бұрын
youmakemelaugh that's not even enough bc Holly is too strong. She couldn't pull Holly's arm for an arm bar.
@FemaleObserver
@FemaleObserver 7 жыл бұрын
MMA is more than just arm grappling and judo. She has no boxing skills and she could have won. She didn't learn from her mistake with Holmes. Roach nailed it!!
@goddammitalana
@goddammitalana 6 жыл бұрын
FemaleObserver holm**
@Frontboarder101
@Frontboarder101 6 жыл бұрын
Ronda was such an amazing athlete and for a while she was a beast even though she had the worst coach ever. Whilst being a terrible boxing coach Edmond also made her believe that she couldnt lose, which made her unable to get through her losses and becoming a better fighter because of them. Imagine how good she would have been with a good coach instead. Such a waste..
@paolo2012
@paolo2012 8 жыл бұрын
hehe - roach basically said that Ronda don't know how to box. take dem apples Edmund :)
@DaFactsNoNonsense1713
@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 8 жыл бұрын
Freddie making sense!? Is the world about to end?! LOL
@DaFactsNoNonsense1713
@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 8 жыл бұрын
sam poo Why does it matter to you? Are you the MASTER of the comments?! What I say is true to you & must bug you because you HAD a different view! That's why you're so insecure about it! This video's about Roach & Rousey, NOT about your dumbass!
@DaFactsNoNonsense1713
@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 8 жыл бұрын
TRANSLATION: What you said was true! I don't like how you're so accurate about it & it pisses me off! I'm REALLY butt-hurt & insecure, so I have to rant, rave & ramble about it until my bedroom is torn apart & my mom tell me to behave! lol #GetALife
@DaFactsNoNonsense1713
@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 8 жыл бұрын
+BMXGLF says the guy talking to a mirror! #dumbass lol
@DaFactsNoNonsense1713
@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 8 жыл бұрын
***** Don't you get tired of saying the SAME thing over & over??? Aren't you tired of talking to YOURSELF??! Why don't you start posting these STUPID statements without the MIRROR beside the screen!! #mate LOL
@DaFactsNoNonsense1713
@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 8 жыл бұрын
***** Says the IDIOT that calls people he insults MATE!!! #EXTRADumb Where you're from they CLEARLY have shortage of functioning brain-cells!! #impressive How do you BREATHE by yourself or raise your hands to type of your OWN!! #amazing Your level of intelligence INDICATES that you are BARELY more intelligent than a small baby that can't even speak!!
@creaase406
@creaase406 2 жыл бұрын
And so forth
@smedleywallacekennedy8250
@smedleywallacekennedy8250 7 жыл бұрын
Ronda's trainer ( Edmond ) did a great disservice to Ronda by not having her boxing skills set up to parr. He's been with her for several years now! WTF! Her footwork, defense, head movement and combos should be at a higher level. The guy was an ex-pro boxer for fucks sakes! That's a shame. She's still young and strong but now she's woefully behind in this particular area and it's been exposed by better strikers.,
@francolopez8283
@francolopez8283 6 жыл бұрын
Rhonda has a lot of potential all she needs is a good boxing trainer. Everything els about her is on point.
@brussell639
@brussell639 7 жыл бұрын
James toney vs randy couture fight is a perfect example. couture would probably never match toney's boxing skills and didn't have to, his ground game won the fight. Ronda Rousey has the ground skills to win any fight. but somewhere along the way Edmond Tarverdyan put it in her head that she was a boxer after having success on a group of women that were still developing the weight class. they weren't as good of fighters as Holm or Nunes. I have no doubt that Ronda could beat both Holly Holm and Amanda Nunes if she'd quit trying to stand up with them. but now she's eating punches and getting rocked and can't seem to remember how to do a takedown. the takedowns against nunes and Holm were shoulder high. you've got to be able to perform single and double leg takedowns, and the last two fights show that she's not fighting smart. and a lot of that is her coach's fault. I think her mom was right on about him.
@tblock18
@tblock18 7 жыл бұрын
and so forth...
@OJG-ho7jo
@OJG-ho7jo 7 жыл бұрын
so tru
@sychophantt
@sychophantt 7 жыл бұрын
He keeps saying she needs to learn how to box yet her trainer specializes in boxing
@kahunatepoona8652
@kahunatepoona8652 7 жыл бұрын
sychophantt she needs to learn from someone better obviously
@anmordal-swe2203
@anmordal-swe2203 7 жыл бұрын
But he should specialize in what he can do: Economic crimes and talking bullshit. He's def. no boxer.
@ddave7026
@ddave7026 7 жыл бұрын
sychophantt maybe he specializes in the mannequin challenge because she's beyond stiff
@demanso1
@demanso1 7 жыл бұрын
sychophantt naw that guy is a kick boxer that thinks he a specialist in boxing
@FearlessP4P1
@FearlessP4P1 7 жыл бұрын
Rondas coach is a muaythai coach with a boxing style. Except that her coach is TERRIBLE at boxing. Ronda literally fights like a flat footed Thaiboxer but only focuses on using punches like a boxer without using the fundamentals of boxing. So what roach is saying is that Ronda needs to get trained by an actual boxing coach. If she wants to be good with her hands.
@evsgo95
@evsgo95 5 жыл бұрын
Coronel Sanders Is a great person
@TheSakufighter
@TheSakufighter 8 жыл бұрын
Dang Edmond seems to be more and more a pos the more I hear about him dropped 5 Armenian fighters for Ronda lol no wonder he's in financial problems he put all his eggs in one basket so to speak and obiously just saw his "lottery" ticket
@scottmichael7178
@scottmichael7178 2 жыл бұрын
Well with people like him, he saw dollar signs and couldnt help himself. Thats how that culture is. Money is everything
@derloopkat
@derloopkat 7 жыл бұрын
He didn't analysed her style. Change that title to "comments on Ronda Rousey style".
@MJWill1
@MJWill1 7 жыл бұрын
Move to Sac and train with AlphaMale or retire!
@z31rider24
@z31rider24 6 жыл бұрын
msmoneyhunny1 well said!
@anthonyboyce4090
@anthonyboyce4090 8 жыл бұрын
Freddie should train her for a fight
@TorstenStett
@TorstenStett 8 жыл бұрын
Miesha Tate (10) is much better looking than Rousey (4). That's all that matters to me when it comes to women's MMA.
@MarkHorp
@MarkHorp 8 жыл бұрын
+TorstenStett Yeah she is.. but what you said just means that You are not a into martial arts..
@TorstenStett
@TorstenStett 8 жыл бұрын
+Mark Horp Quite the opposite. If you were into martial arts you would have noticed that the "Champion" Rousey was breathing like an asthmatic stuck pig at the end of one round in a scheduled five-round fight. That's pathetic. You would have noticed the "Champion" Rousey throwing a barroom overhand right from 10 feet away and falling face first into the fence from her momentum. I've seen better technique in elementary schoolyard brawls. Most of the women's MMA fights are piles of slop, shit and garbage. Whether it's the "Champion" Carla Esparza curling up in the fetal position while Jerdrzejczyk punched holes in her skull or when Gina Carano turned her back on Cyborg and took a boot in the ass like Moe used to do Curly. Open your fucking eyes. Women's MMA is no different from the WNBA in that they're both slow, shitty versions of the real thing.
@thejohnboyglasgow
@thejohnboyglasgow 8 жыл бұрын
+TorstenStett for someone who doesn't like mma or women's mma you seem to watch allot of fights, 90% of boxing fans couldny even tell you who the girls u mentioned were
@TorstenStett
@TorstenStett 8 жыл бұрын
+John Peters I watch and like men's MMA (I admit I watch the PPV stuff on a bootleg Russian site) but it's the women's MMA that I find dreadful. It's mostly just a mix of skilless, tattooed, lesbian slobs that couldn't cut it playing Division III college softball.
@N73B60
@N73B60 8 жыл бұрын
Torsten Sparv These are not cliches, these are probable causes for your problem. You can call it cliche, but these are real hypotheses in the science of Psychology. I wasn't trying to offend you, just wondering why you had such a unique (minority) view on female fighters.
@dubongros3108
@dubongros3108 7 жыл бұрын
Wonder why they always go to these so-called experts . Boxing is just a part of MMA . You don't lose the fight because you're on the canvas. Is there something else than a boxing expert out there ???
@jsizzle7311
@jsizzle7311 7 жыл бұрын
Dubon Gros the problem was she was trying to box, this "so called" expert is Manny Pacquiao's coach. Manny Pacquiao was a top boxer.
@dubongros3108
@dubongros3108 7 жыл бұрын
FuhQ Mawfuqa The Manny Pacquiao who never fought in MMA ?
@mastertrainer3242
@mastertrainer3242 6 жыл бұрын
James Toney fight was fixed. He got paid to come in and lose just to make the UFC look better than boxing. Watch the fight again and look at how Toney didn't even try.
@BigJimbo106
@BigJimbo106 8 жыл бұрын
funny how he was on the rousey bandwagon before the fight, claiming that she could take on all women boxers
@jaydeebsballer6824
@jaydeebsballer6824 5 жыл бұрын
she's a lefty and fights righty
@mixalis6168
@mixalis6168 6 жыл бұрын
Ronda has no standup, she also probably would never have !!
@Antonio-dd3fe
@Antonio-dd3fe 7 жыл бұрын
The only thing Rousey could do now is end the trilogy with Miesha Tate, since both can't strike. Well at least Tate had the balls to get back in there and then retire passing on the torch to the new gen. That wouldn't do much for her though... Instead of letting her fight the champion right away she should've fought Tate when she was the first contender after her loss to Amanda and eventually Amanda. But now she just got exposed, the Tate fight would've made her gain some false credibility and time to learn striking. But nope, she's an arrogant bitch and didn't want a different camp or people around.
@34672rr
@34672rr 6 жыл бұрын
everyone has it wrong. Rousey got beat by holm in a fluke, which destroyed her mentally, and made he try to be a boxer, when she should have just stuck to what she does, and could have easily beat Nunes. But that idiot edmond tried to give her shitty boxing skills and convinced her to play the striking game. Now she's screwed if she doesn't get back to her base and ditch the douchebag. And Roach has no idea what he is talking about with MMA. He didn't even know rousey is a judoka. What makes rousey great is that she has learned the language of judo from childhood, like knowing your native tongue, but now because of one loss she thought she had to learn a foreign language, which is extremely difficult for an adult to do fluently. She doesn't need to learn to box, she just needs basic defense so she can get the clinch, pull guard or whatever. Get eddie bravo as your coach like ferguson did. Bravo knows nothing about striking on the feet, but his strategy for getting your opponent to play your game is genius.
@aaronbusby6170
@aaronbusby6170 6 жыл бұрын
wiremessiah I think you made some good points especially on her broken mentality and that she would need to ditch Edmond however for her to be a successful mixed martial artist again she would definitely need help from elite boxing coaches such as Freddie roach who has experience with mma fighters since he has helped gsp, she would need this help because the game has changed and fighters are becoming more well rounded and even grapplers have a good striking game that would trouble Ronda
@34672rr
@34672rr 6 жыл бұрын
Aaron Busby freddie roach is great for someone like gsp, but not rhonda. gsp is not a specialist, he is just very well rounded and good boxing helps that style a lot. rhonda had huge success being a specialist because she was extremely good at it, even with great strikers. but edmond made her play the striking game after holm, and got her mind off the ball. of course every problem looks like a nail when you have a hammer like roach, but you always go back to what you know and what has served you best. rhonda is not very intelligent like gsp, but again she knows her language better than anyone and has to make them play her game. but i doubt she will fight again.
@aaronbusby6170
@aaronbusby6170 6 жыл бұрын
wiremessiah you are right she is a specialist of high technique in her original sport and she doesn’t have the fight iq or adaptability of gsp but I see gsp as what Ronda could have been if she had the right coaching because he originally started out as a karate specialist and yet he evolved by learning wrestling and bjj, Ronda tried to do this as well except with Edmond, and with him being a terrible coach Ronda didn’t get the boxing capabilities or roundness of mma because instead of adapting she stayed stationary while the division improved. This is why few specialists are in the ufc because eventually they are beaten by being out of their zone for example Damian Maia is a great bjj specialist but he lost to Tyrone because he couldn’t input his specialty
@34672rr
@34672rr 6 жыл бұрын
Aaron Busby well no one can beat tyron because hes over 200 pounds fighting at 170. rhonda never was or could be a boxer or striker. she should have kept up and evolved her no gi judo and grappling game. use 10th planet techniques to pull guard and get imanari rolls and such. leglocks are still virgin ground for womens mma. i just think trying to change your game completely from one base to another is a huge mistake.
@aaronbusby6170
@aaronbusby6170 6 жыл бұрын
wiremessiah I agree 100 percent she’d never be a striker or a boxer and she does need to improve her bjj to add a higher complexity to her credentials and that adds to what I was saying she needs to evolve with what she is good at as well as what she is bad at,for example mcgregor isn’t a grappler and he never will be at the level of Ronda in the clinch or on the ground but with each event he evolved his striking clinch and ground, it is evident from the change in takedown defence from the chad menses fight to the Dias rematch, my point is although he will never be top level he never stays still in progress in his boxing or in his grappling and that’s what Ronda needed to do constantly improve instead of plateauing
@RoleyChiu
@RoleyChiu 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many more months this topic will go on for before it dies. years perhaps? Starting to get real bored of it.
@lookwaticando909
@lookwaticando909 8 жыл бұрын
who cares great foghters dont exst anymore....someone has to extend the limits of glory, here I am Lord, send me.
@kahunatepoona8652
@kahunatepoona8652 7 жыл бұрын
Azrael Archangel stfu
@SurgeCess
@SurgeCess 7 жыл бұрын
Someone should extend the limits of their fist in his face.
@lookwaticando909
@lookwaticando909 7 жыл бұрын
or whut!? you'll do nothin'
@bigh7777
@bigh7777 7 жыл бұрын
She has no boxing skills.
@jcdnyd
@jcdnyd 7 жыл бұрын
lol
@paulinthailand
@paulinthailand 8 жыл бұрын
love freddie but hes wrone here, all she needs is a little muay thai and that will equalize any boxing
@agencialt9633
@agencialt9633 8 жыл бұрын
+paul lunney a ton of muay thai you mean... in mma, one style does not trump the other.. it all comes down to whos prepared the most.
@paulinthailand
@paulinthailand 8 жыл бұрын
no basic muay thai is enough to stop good boxing. you can low kick which stops their movement
@agencialt9633
@agencialt9633 8 жыл бұрын
thats like saying muay thai is just better than boxing, which is not always the case. you could put a boxer vs a muay thai fighter, both only training in their disciplines and the muay thai fighter might win in that case, but holly holm is not just a boxer, she started as a kickboxer and she knows how to avoid, check, catch, or whatever you can do with leg kicks... thats why i said that in mma one style does not trump the other style. ronda might learn a bit of muay thai, but holly can still use the big ass octagon and keep her distance, and i doubt she can even kick better than holly holm, she got good form in her kicks, more reach and shit, so a "little muay thai" wont do the trick, i am sure.
@ryanfreytag9021
@ryanfreytag9021 8 жыл бұрын
+agenciaLT your a fuck tard
@agencialt9633
@agencialt9633 8 жыл бұрын
ryan freytag shut up lady boy.
@riyadh5100
@riyadh5100 7 жыл бұрын
Get a clean shave.
@Commievn
@Commievn 8 жыл бұрын
Woa... boxing fans are just too desperate... Holly Holm is no longer a boxer since like forever ago, when Ronda face Holm it was an MMA Fighter v. an MMA Fighter. Some of these boxing fanboys need to do some research, when she first switched from boxing to kickboxing, Holm got KTFO !!!
@hrivera007
@hrivera007 8 жыл бұрын
And she got ko in boxing twice... Then she ko'ed the best fighter ever who could beat guys and girls with one hand behind her back. And she beat her with simple boxing footwork and ended up with a nice kick to the head.
@Commievn
@Commievn 8 жыл бұрын
hrivera007 Oh no, she beats her more than just footwork and boxing. Her boxing and footwork are great and it's one of the main reason she won, that's no doubt. But she knows how to grapple, wrestling and kicks, something they don't teach in boxing. Just watch the fight again, she was able to escaped Ronda best skills, grappling/Judo, *Twice*. Not only that, she threw her down! That took a lot of skills and practices.
@r.b.4611
@r.b.4611 7 жыл бұрын
Ah yeah, good thing boxing taught her how to throw KO power head kicks.
@5tar5z
@5tar5z 6 жыл бұрын
not difficult to analyze that. She has zero boxing skills.
@johnnycmajor
@johnnycmajor 8 жыл бұрын
Sorry who is the this guy, is a drunk , or did he have an accident or something?
@notoriouslynch607
@notoriouslynch607 8 жыл бұрын
He's a boxer trainer the reason he talks like that is the hits to the head he trained Amir Kahn and manny pacquiao
@VictorShephard
@VictorShephard 7 жыл бұрын
JohnnyC Major he has Parkinson's. He's a really big deal as a trainer. He was a pretty decent pro.
@lemonmaid3844
@lemonmaid3844 8 жыл бұрын
Freddy behind the mitts? No wonder she got her face bashed in. He teaches his fighters to block punches with their face
@edwardestrada4026
@edwardestrada4026 8 жыл бұрын
The most retarded comment here.
@husabceuoacieabcueoa2319
@husabceuoacieabcueoa2319 8 жыл бұрын
+Aubrey Harris Hahahah oh no.
@jvinson
@jvinson 8 жыл бұрын
+Edward Estrada - Freddies defense is offense and punching from angles.
@jontrollinski4235
@jontrollinski4235 8 жыл бұрын
+jvinson and head movement
@kiaulespatrypia
@kiaulespatrypia 8 жыл бұрын
+Aubrey Harris your comment is just completely idiotic
@bay37th
@bay37th 7 жыл бұрын
Idn how Freddy roach ever fought or trained people in his condition
@FanOMisery
@FanOMisery 8 жыл бұрын
bs... shes got to forget boxing and drop hollly hard
@danielpascual4672
@danielpascual4672 8 жыл бұрын
She already try that lmfao I hope your joking around lol
@FanOMisery
@FanOMisery 8 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Pascual No im not, and she tried it half-hearted, like twice , and then stood up getting her ass kicked. Right from the opening second she should have got in close and smothered her against the cage...That sir she did not. I have a feeling she wanted to prove her stand up game to everyone
@danielpascual4672
@danielpascual4672 8 жыл бұрын
FanOMisery didn't even read your comment, talking crazy man. Excuces to the mix
@HyborianAge
@HyborianAge 8 жыл бұрын
+FanOMisery Go check all of Hollywood Holly's mma fights and tell me they all had decided to fight her upright. She is a beast with those guns and cannons to keep you intimidated. and the training and brute strength to get out of the clinch.
@MsMoneyHunny1
@MsMoneyHunny1 8 жыл бұрын
+FanOMisery and get fucked up again. You guys keep forgetting she tried like three times to get her down and Holly got out each time. This was her first fight with an elite fighter.
@joshuakapusnik1183
@joshuakapusnik1183 2 жыл бұрын
Why are the best boxing coaches always so weird?
@MMAdiehardfan
@MMAdiehardfan 6 ай бұрын
He’s not weird at all he’s kind man with Parkinson’s
@azer8308
@azer8308 7 жыл бұрын
This guy should be the poster boy for reasons to not box. Hey kids you want brain damage?
@2_hotty
@2_hotty 7 жыл бұрын
He has Parkinsons dude...and he's a fucking legend. Anyone who wants to learn to box should listen to this guy.
@peaceandquiet
@peaceandquiet 7 жыл бұрын
He doesnt have brain damage, he has Parkinson disease
@Galactusz007
@Galactusz007 7 жыл бұрын
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