A quicky little tip today! Enjoy. See you in a couple of days?
@pt14574 ай бұрын
Thanks a million for the tip! I all but gave up on these as a construction material. I had saved so many from Girl Scout Cookies in the US, but tried making generator type terrain scatter from them and they were just the worst to work with. Using them as plaster moulds absolutely blew my mind and I can't wait to get more (threw out the old ones in rage).
@nickharvey72334 ай бұрын
Awesome work, mate. All those years as a kid, wasting my time creating terrain for RT and 2nd ed. using moulded polystyrene from electrical goods. Similarly inspiring shapes, but a nightmare to work with...and painting...arggh! (That said, soem great happy accidents with solvent glue for battle damage). Keep up the great work, you lil' ripper! (Middle-aged Irishman in London)
@Liopot684 ай бұрын
So nice to have you back on YT!
@AzraelThanatos4 ай бұрын
@@pt1457 Try using a dental or heavier duty plaster than plaster of paris if you want more lasting pieces of terrain. Plaster of Paris doesn't hold up as well under long term use.
@kwest97474 ай бұрын
Re dental vs paris: Mixing stuff up in it helps tho. Something Trent didn’t mention is torn up newspaper is a cheap way to bulk it out. The paper also adds in a bunch of fibre, creating an aggregate / matrix like steel reinforced concrete. You can also mix in some pva which helps hold it together and stop it crumbling.
@EricsHobbyWorkshop4 ай бұрын
I have nothing to say rly I'm just basking in the golden age of Miscast
@Gangsta6254 ай бұрын
So true
@theoutsider35764 ай бұрын
That's really sweet!
@Slurgical_3D_Terrain_Channel4 ай бұрын
I know :)
@AyeCanMakeThat4 ай бұрын
Respect to you also sir!
@tofu38334 ай бұрын
Once you see the potential in cheap packaging its like a whole new world opening up
@Miscast4 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@JasonRobards24 ай бұрын
I feel there is a funny joke in there
@erho29674 ай бұрын
And all of the warp will hear you open these up
@petsdinner4 ай бұрын
A top tip for mould releasing plaster is to either; A: spritz the mould with soapy water (drain off any excess) or; B: dust the mould with baby powder. This should reduce problems with more complex packaging shapes! Thanks for another great video Trent! Cheers!
@Bluecho44 ай бұрын
That's a really good idea. Thank you.
@chicgeekery4 ай бұрын
@@Bluecho4 baby oil should also work, it's recommended as a resin release
@petsdinner4 ай бұрын
@@chicgeekery I wouldn't recommend baby oil, it doesn't really offer any benefits over other methods whilst adding greater risks of mess, cleanup and contaminating the plaster.
@a.m.71654 ай бұрын
Vaseline works for plaster casts on skin.
@_.stargazer._4 ай бұрын
hi, art uni sculpture class teacher here, this is exactly how you properly measure plaster for fine detail casting :D add plaster powder to (cold!) water until it stops sinking. also it's good to rub it through your fingers while adding it into water to prevent clumps from forming. second tip is to mix 'down to up' direction to not introduce air into the mixture and also tap the container (gently) on the table after you're done mixing to make air bubbles move to the top. and that's how you get a perfectly smooth cast every time :D another very important thing is to use separator while casting structures with deeper recesses. pretty much any oily substance will work, vaseline, vegetable oil. I personally use liquid floor wax but it's for bigger surfaces. just spread it with a soft brush and make sure you didn't left any smudges (cause they'll mess up your cast)
@SavageGreywolf3 ай бұрын
a good tip but when you're talking 40k terrain, every bubble is just a bullet hole waiting to be born :D
@lukesevern39234 ай бұрын
Chuckles "I'm in danger" as I go to my recycling bin
@619Slipk4 ай бұрын
"I've turned into a hoarder" This man out here being relatable af The bunker looks great Trent. And that cookie part fit so nicely in there
@s4squati4 ай бұрын
One quick tip back at you. If you mix fiber in the plaster, it'll make leege flat pieces less prone to breaking, and possibly easier to remove from the molds.
@spootyfrog4 ай бұрын
There is an old White Dwarf magazine article about making Necromunda terrain from old packaging and garbage. It was an eye opener when I was getting into modeling and broke. Making molds tho is very clever
@Sepowastaken4 ай бұрын
Every one of these videos on terrain you've been doing, keeps reminding me of this one article I saw in an old issue of White Dwarf I borrowed at my local library back in the 2000s. It was a step by step guide on how to turn a pringles can into a 40k silo. Lives rent free in my head till this day.
@criosleepx49894 ай бұрын
I've always thought those containers were awsome shapes, but I've never thought of using them as molds. Super cool idea.
@Bluecho44 ай бұрын
It's probably much more practical than using the containers themselves. Since, as Trent said, the cheap plastic can be difficult to work with. This would make the terrain more rigid, which is what I'm always looking for in terrain material.
@dr.mortose1634 ай бұрын
I've been doing this sort of thing for a couple years now. I find if you make a silicone mold from your plaster cast, you can use those new molds to create resin pieces. Use a clear resin and now lighting can be added. Great video. Keep them coming!
@matthewludivico17144 ай бұрын
The damaged one would still make a perfect, artillery damaged model (roof or road). The areas of the model that failed to take texture imprint could be the start of an artillery crater to build up, using diorama techniques.
@Nat1videos4 ай бұрын
That’s class! So obvious and simple yet brilliant. I love the one with square missing in the centre … great tip !
@hauntswargaming4 ай бұрын
I've tried reinforcing plastic packaging with wood glue and sand. It works, but it's difficult to cut up afterward. I never thought of making shallow molds with them. I gotta try this! Great video!
@Miscast4 ай бұрын
thats also a great idea!
@1990NMiller4 ай бұрын
Ive been toying with this idea for years but never got round to trying it out tof fear it would fail. Great to see you give it a go to get some tips
@Miscast4 ай бұрын
You should! Super easy, works great
@westonfurrow9614 ай бұрын
J😅😅😊😊
@westonfurrow9614 ай бұрын
@@Miscast😅😊😅😊😅
@secretaltruism41744 ай бұрын
You can also use skrim on the sides of the packaging to help the plaster stick to the sides and make a hollow cast of the big packaging so you can have the sides but you dont have to fill up the whole mould
@FlowerFinni4 ай бұрын
That doughnut platform was unreal! Such a cool idea
@thomaskaracwilson4 ай бұрын
Just causally innovating the entire hobby in under 5 minutes, just another weekday for Trent.
@jesusaurusfunk4 ай бұрын
I can't believe it! There’s a new miscast video up already 🤯 i gotta say its always an absolute pleasure watchin your content, and the positivity you bring into your craft is truly inspiring. Thank you
@jherazob3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I've noticed the same thing with packaging for a while, but so far have restrained myself from becoming a hoarder, i mean i hoard minis already, one vice is enough😅 One technique I've seen before with flimsy packaging used directly (but that i haven't used yet) is to just fill the thing with expanding foam, that will make it sturdier
@juscozcustoms3 ай бұрын
It is a great process to build terrain, My favorite was always the woolworths mud cake tray, one side of the tray would make a round tiled base and then flip the tray and the other side would make all the tiles to fill the spaces so then you could use as many or few tiles as you wanted depending on how distressed it was going to be. Unfortunately I think that particular design has been discontinued for 10 years but I probably still have one in the hoarder cave also to save plaster in the larger molds you could take up the extra space with a water bottle they can be crushed a bit to make them shorter if need be
@Shot5hells4 ай бұрын
Yesssss! I have been collecting these biscuit trays for ages thinking they’d make great components. At first I just noticed one looked like the shield generator in Star Wars ESB, then I saw a really good tread plate pattern on the packaging from some wafers, another one looked like corrugated metal… I hadn’t used them yet because of the flimsy plastic, I never thought to use them as moulds, thank you so much for this solution!
@EvanMonsma4 ай бұрын
I'm learning so much on these uploads. Been hoarding random disposables but never thought about food packaging... genius
@seanocallaghan31334 ай бұрын
Dude, this thing where you’re pumping out videos is incredible. Your content is impeccable as always, and I super enjoy the notification that I’ve got one to watch
@GWizRidesAgain4 ай бұрын
I feel like youve got a new sick idea every time I log on. Can't wait to see the Necromunda table. Im learning 3d kitbashing to give my Ogryn gang some variety.
@gavinbaker74214 ай бұрын
Man, getting such Rogue Trader vibes from this terrain! Fantastic to see how straightforward it actually is to make your own terrain from anything and everything! And that this channel shows that mistakes are just an opportunity to learn, thank you for being so inspiring!
@kwest97474 ай бұрын
I’ve been wanting to do this since i grabbed my Rogue Trader book from Warhammer World and some of terrain making it suggests is with crazy plaster casts!!! Thank you for proving how good the concept is!!! Looks amazing. Great paint job and love your flock!
@RND_ADV_X4 ай бұрын
I would recommend you try getting some slightly firm polyurethane expanding foam. You should be able to pull 10-20 copies of each of those plastic moulds. Poly shouldn't stick to them iirc. Only issue might be heat deforming? The cool thing is that you can use a blade to sculpt poly foam, so you can do all kinds of wild stuff to your casts.
@bookwyrms.26584 ай бұрын
*happy sighs* BTW, if you embed the plastic container into sand, it will help stop bulging/warping when the plaster is added and its weight distorts that notoriously flimsy plastic (looking at you, bikkie packs)
@jamesbarantor70944 ай бұрын
There is a company called Hirst Arts that does something similar but they sell silicone molds and then put dental plaster in there. More expensive but I guess more durable. Absolutely loving these recent vids with the hints and hacked together terrain.
@rohanalmond4 ай бұрын
Absolute genius! I’ve been hoarding all sorts a trays then sadly throwing them away as I couldn’t work out how to make them tough enough to use. No longer will they go back in the recycling!
@YMS09D4 ай бұрын
this is amazing, I've been struggling on how to use the single use plastic waste, but I never thought of using them as molds, Brilliant!
@NikolaSavic-q6c3 ай бұрын
You rock bruv, as someone from the not so wealthy part of Europe I often do this, Find things that will make great terrain pieces. The hubba bubba circular gum package is one of my favorites, I do lack the great yogurt package you guys have over there, such a great generator piece as well. Keep this up love ya work!
@alejandroguerra67554 ай бұрын
I’m just getting into dioramas/terrains so every idea helps. But I would have never thought about this ! 😂 Genius 🔥
@3lth4 ай бұрын
That would look amazing at 1:18 scale for the Star Wars: Vintage Collection action figures. Top video dude.
@ElvesofZion4 ай бұрын
Started doing this back around 2000, still a great way to get interesting terrain building materials Nice video for introducing it to new people!
@erikengerdenglish2 ай бұрын
Love a good old budgethammer / trashbash video and love your waaaagh approach to mixing ratios!
@camcamthesquatchman73064 ай бұрын
I was just dealing with glue and spackle not sticking to cheap plastic on my Necromunda tile, now that property can have an actual use. Thanks for all the experimenting, mate
@MrTonypace4 ай бұрын
Any cloth with holes will work as reinforcement. no need to run around looking for scrim. I usually use old shower cloths (similar to a loofah), but just about anything will work, even old tshirts and the like. I have given give up on this method a bit though, as any plaster mix strong enough to hold together is too heavy for me to go hauling around to games.
@NJBoyd4 ай бұрын
Ingenious mate! The reinforced plaster with the weave is absolutely brilliant - I wish I'd known that during my terrain building days instead of trying to seal up expanded polystyrene with sand and PVA glue!
@TriggertheTaco4 ай бұрын
The good this channel does for the hobby can't be overstated. Keep delivering bangers
@capnskustomworks4 ай бұрын
Those are so freakin’ sweet!!! The cookie and doughnut tile I particularly love! The cookie package would make some great shelters turned the other way as well, I’d bet! Awesome job!!!
@steveboyd34 ай бұрын
Dude I’ve been doing the same thing (hoarding rubbish) to the point where when hard rubbish happens in my area all I see is terrain projects. I recently made a display board from lots of hard rubbish bits. Once you start seeing things in a different scale there’s no going back! The trays that my pastitizis come in is articularly good. Recently smashed up a printer I found on the road and used bits to make a necromunda hideout. - Goatmoth :)
@BuzzWhitebeard4 ай бұрын
Awesome video, have used packaging like these for terrain before but didn't think of using them as moulds, will deffo give it a go!
@bob289794 ай бұрын
i use something similar to the round one that you used as the mid for the necromania and i put a soda can in to it. takes up loads of space and lets you mold a second halve for a fuel container vibe
@seppyseppi68894 ай бұрын
The end product is really close to the Jedi Temple in Jedi Academy, I love it.
@soapmode4 ай бұрын
You can save your failed plaster casts, break them up, and use the chips as filler for your next pour. Saves you some material.
@DeadEd7254 ай бұрын
The Videos are always comming out when i need them, mhhhh I need a way to properly glue my big Minitures, 5 hours later Miscast posts a Video about it. Earlyer this day i thoght about cool things to use as Terrain, BAM this Video shows up.
@DarthCool994 ай бұрын
Nice sculpture! I'm surprised by how much life those plaster casts gave your bunker, it looks amazing Trent!
@pabloarellano73594 ай бұрын
... you can brush some oily thing to your containers/casts in order to remove them faster... like water base baseline or similar....
@tibbsy6494 ай бұрын
Love this idea. If I could make a small request, you would be doing a time-poor fan a HUGE service if you could use a cheap food scale when doing things like mixing together your mold material. "I poured in some water - that reads... 200g. I'm now going to add my dry stuff... okay that looks right to me. The scale now reads... 450g. Okay, so that's 4:5 wet to dry - maybe yours is different."
@te95914 ай бұрын
Brilliant, so neat turning clear plastic intp something that seems solid.
@christianstraubhaar3394 ай бұрын
Oh man, this is brilliant! I have a bunch of these I've been saving for just such purposes! And to know they can be used that easy with plaster makes my heart happy.
@Miscast4 ай бұрын
Amazing! Good luck!
@mahfrot54 ай бұрын
This video reminds me so much of watching Adam Savage kitbash to make incredible models or sets. So good.
@gggfx41444 ай бұрын
Good tip... I am now going to be analysing all shop-bought packaging for casting potential! I wonder the first mould would work if you used a different material/mix, with some release agent pre-sprayed on the mould? (When concrete is laid in shutter boxes sometimes the box needs painted/coated with release agent).
@AzraelThanatos4 ай бұрын
If you have the option, things like dental plaster are a better option than plaster of paris for terrain pieces due to the heavier use there. Plaster of Paris crumbles and breaks far to easily... It's something that I learned a LONG while back from people working with some of the early Hirst Arts molds...
@vociferonheraldofthewinter22844 ай бұрын
I can't relate. (scoots box of packaging I've been hoarding behind the door.) Confession: It's my go-to for Steampunk cosplay. You make one pair of goggles from yogurt containers and you'll never look back. And any lid can be a gauge with just a print out and a little bit of epoxy.
@AyeCanMakeThat4 ай бұрын
I fell into exactly the same hoarding trap friend! I blame you for this, but mainly Scratchbashing...okay, okay, I blame myself. So many fantastic textures getting binned though; it's awesome to see what you can do with them instead! I found a poke bowl (I think) has the same cuby shape as your base. Thanks to you, I'll give plaster a go over air drying clay. Many thanks for being an inspiring creative legend!
@RodeThe6004 ай бұрын
THIS MAN HAS JUST CREATED A NEW WAY TO USE PLASTIC PACKAGING, A WAY THAT DOESN'T TURN YOU INTO A HOARDER!!!!! BRILLIANT! EXCELLENT! AMAZING!
@a.m.71654 ай бұрын
The Donut package looks like an awesome landingpad. Put it on steel supports.
@daili49174 ай бұрын
Just in time for my diet, looks like I'll be raiding the neighbours recycling - unless the fruit packaging...hang on, going to get the grapes!
@Bobdd04 ай бұрын
That bunker looks like it leaped right out of the early 90's in the BEST way
@Roughandreadykitbashes10114 ай бұрын
I knew I would miss it! Also my room looks like a recycling bin!
@Miscast4 ай бұрын
Next time! I threw you off with the upload time
@Roughandreadykitbashes10114 ай бұрын
@@Miscast next time! Next time I’ll be ready!
@benweinberg38194 ай бұрын
The biggest hurdles I've encountered with plaster casting these clamshell packages (say that 5x fast) is that the molds tend to be single use and, if you're doing a deeper pour, the weight of the plaster can cause the thin plastic to bow out of shape and be less geometric than you may want. I wonder if casting the outside of the plastic clamshells in a silicon mold and then casting from that would be more efficient, if more costly?
@deathbypuppermixes23 күн бұрын
Lol, omg I've been hoarding this stuff for ages, so glad you've already put the work in for me to know just how to use them now! New Antioch bunkers, here i come lol
@9000ethanator4 ай бұрын
The bunker gave me early Halo flashbacks. Amazing work as always
@King_of_Hearts4 ай бұрын
Love to see this recent pace of videos, and creativity, I’m now on the lookout for any packaging I could maybe do some fantasy style stuff, like cobbled road? Anyways, You should try to warp the plastic with some heat to get a similar effect to the pipes from your other video, could match well together?
@standandelivery4 ай бұрын
Ahhhh yes, the old Anzac bikkie.....for our boys in Gallipol....
@Beaut_Beau4 ай бұрын
I have been keeping (hoarding) those exact same bloody containers for years! And every time i see them i always think of making imperial guard bunkers too lol Also, you have blown my mind with using them as moulds, but now this means i will have to keep the containers forever to keep reusing them, damn you haha
@nichlasbundgaard55834 ай бұрын
This is the equivalent to me digging down in the forest floor, taking macro photos. I always did wonder what some of that packaging would look like, so thank you very much for showing this!
@Miscast4 ай бұрын
Amazing!
@kgoblin50844 ай бұрын
Like so many others, I was already in the brethren of saving all my plastic containers for modeling purposes :D. Also probably like a lot of others, I'm better at collecting it than using it LOL. Some thoughts I've had in this area: * I think you could use the plastic itself, if you fill the shape with something like paper-mache (or just the plaster Trent is using). That should in theory stiffen up the form enough that you can do the usual sanding + priming treatment. Would basically save on the de-molding step (& risk of a bad de-molding, ala the video), & the stuff is so cheap & easy to acquire it's not really a waste * obviously you could also just use it as a paper-mache mold instead of plaster as well! * I also have one half-done project where I just stuffed something with card-board, & that was good enough to get a sand on the plastic surface. Emphasis on the half-done though... not a completed project, do not take as testimonial that it actually works LOL. * finally, I've seen at least 1 video on YT where a guy poured silicone into plastic waste to make his own permanent, fully re-usable molds
@Miscast4 ай бұрын
Great thoughts! Thankyou!!
@rendezvousextraordinaire4 ай бұрын
Wouldn't plaster be a little bit dense and fragile, for terrains? Perhaps adding in sawdust or shredded paper could help make it into something that can both take an imprint faithfully and without shrinking, while having a density closer to wood.
@FiXato4 ай бұрын
With advent calendars hitting shelf stores again in a few months: the plastic inserts can be used as plastic moulds too, and some of the figures might make for nice decorative shields.
@Miscast4 ай бұрын
this is SO SMART
@FiXato4 ай бұрын
@@Miscast I remember making those plaster figures with them with my mum as I was a kid; used to have a whole box of them ready to be painted (which most of them, of course, never did 😂) I think I also made some out of those gummy worm candy containers.
@grahamlane364 ай бұрын
Mate!! I have a stash of those same plastic packages that e tried to reinforce over the years and it always fails. What a solve. This is next level!
@CampaignTerrain4 ай бұрын
I've got like 30 of these laying around. Never occurred to me to do this with them. Kudos
@brooksf-l761916 күн бұрын
Oh no. I was eating chips out of one of these lids I used as a tray when I watched your video...and it has a really nice texture. I can't unsee it!
@ICGravityPacific11464 ай бұрын
This terrain has GREAT Epic scale terrain possibilities as well!
@Slurgical_3D_Terrain_Channel4 ай бұрын
You are making my brain melt! That is awesome!! I have been aching throwing those things away. I want to use them so badly, but no space to store or material. I’m fully digital and 3D printing. One day I will have a studio.
@TheEmoPainter4 ай бұрын
Been looking at empty packaging for years for terrain. I even used to see the plastic in easter eggs back in the days as potential terrain. But i was a kid then not too sure on what warhammer was 😅
@Spark_Chaser4 ай бұрын
As soon as you mentioned it was flimsy and couldn't hold paint my brain went, "but can it be used as a mold?" And that's exactly the thing that happened. Best part is, when the mold finally gives out, you get to buy more snacks.
@minisarefuntopaint4 ай бұрын
Very nice final results, and a great idea. This also looks like some sort of ancient temple to me, so it would work for some fantasy settings as well as science fiction ones.
@Miscast4 ай бұрын
great idea!
@gregq84 ай бұрын
The guy behind Hirst Arts uses dental stone for casting, maybe a better material will allow you to get really crisp thin panels.
@eastoforion4 ай бұрын
love this, I’ve been seeing these my whole life but couldn’t figure out how to use them!
@activniygomes29634 ай бұрын
You're such a legend, mate. I'm so hyped up to do hobby stuff after your videos
@KT-xx5ch3 ай бұрын
bro we were on the same wavelength, but you followed through lol! Keep that spark alive
@Bluecho44 ай бұрын
Trent, man, you shouldn't have shown me this. Because it's really cool, and now I'm going to be looking at plastic trash as (more) terrain building tools. I WILL never look at it the same way again, and I grieve for my innocence of five minutes ago. (Great video. Will definitely need to pick up some plaster of paris at some point. I was already being tempted by the molds off Hirst Arts.)
@53rdcards16 күн бұрын
Could you mix up the plaster and say paper machete? So you could make it have the shape and texture as the plaster would fill the voids, but the paper machete would allow it to be far lighter as it is hollow inside. Could even add a layer of fiberglass drywall tape to it for reinforcement
@danbrierley56474 ай бұрын
I've done this a few times for some old projects, I used to mix woodglue with my water. Seemed to help strengthen the plaster. Great video and some good tips for future projects!
@the_coalheart4 ай бұрын
reminded me of some of the examples for terrain in the original rogue trader, they used wet sand and balls to make impressions on it! BOOM, bunker
@OdyMeister4 ай бұрын
What is this upload speed! Incredible❤
@insighttoariot4 ай бұрын
Not sure if anyone suggested it yet, but maybe try hot/boiling water on the packaging to see if that gets it to release. It could shrink the plastic and cause all that textured stuff to just pop out.
@kreamies67204 ай бұрын
This is the best time to be a Miscast fan, holy shit. Just banger after banger
@demetrinight59244 ай бұрын
I have considered quite a few cheep single use plastic containers for terrain. Using them as plaster molds sounds like a better idea.
@joshuaedley51914 ай бұрын
wow very good that is really cool ,a very smart way of reusing your plastic waste
@lofiworkshop4 ай бұрын
Awesome bunker, bud! This is exactly what I've been saving my plastic junk for. Great work!
@Miscast4 ай бұрын
Thankyou J!
@Gauldame4 ай бұрын
maybe mold release for the big ones next time?
@OlisBattleBarn4 ай бұрын
Mate, you where a horder long before you discovered this😂. Also loving this rapid fire shorter format you are pumping out.
@cg66844 ай бұрын
Dude....🤯 It's so good. That just sparked so many ideas with my leftover junk so thank you!
@Miscast4 ай бұрын
you're welcome! glad to hear it
@Chris-gq8ts4 ай бұрын
Maybe try using a hair dryer on the plastic if the plaster doesn't want to come out 🤔. Shouldn't deform to much when warmed moderately