Freediving BLACKOUT Compilation no. 2 - Dynamic Apnea

[@DoctorCiaran]

I love the loud, obnoxious, totally unfitting and completely unnecessary music. It really adds to the experience of watching this video.

[@thefreedriver89]

Ahahaha funny comment

[@matrixmirage2148]

I love seeing people choking to techno music It's usually in adult movies, but diving movies will do just as fine ^^

[@maxmustermann7794]

@@matrixmirage2148 Always glad to read that there is someone with good humor ^^

[@kyleheath1576]

Whatever’s royalty free i guess

[@ernokivesrinta1655]

@@thefreedriver89 without music I would have been able to watch this. Loose the shitty music.

[@ngirabedechal]

First time I saw this type of vid I thought it was a blackout competition lol

[@charlesclements4350]

Good video to use for training on how to recognize a black out. I am glad that I saw it.

[@Lydiafreedivingbefree]

Actually i think this too. Good to know what can happen. It helped me with training for a freediving competition

[@ابراهيمانعم-ظ2ب]

Shit, This scares me more than sharks

[@orlandorodriguez7235]

Stay safe everyone! Remember many people love you and support you and wish to keep seeing you dive!

[@arielcastaneda8430]

the title of this video should be like “watch before thinking you can practice breath holds alone 😬😬 I totally would have before seeing this.

[@marc1047]

Just bought my free diving set and KZbin recommended this video. Are you trying to discourage me?

[@thefreedriver89]

Not at all... you need to be aware of blackouts, not scared bu them... always listen to yourself and don’t push yourself over your limits

[@marc1047]

@@thefreedriver89 Thanks Valerio! I'm just a beginner. Besides youtube videos, hope you could share some tips

[@takackman9325]

@@marc1047 If you begin to feel contractions, go to the surface. So many freedivers (even instructors) will tell you to ignore them, but if you have them at any point, it is time to go up. This sport is about feeling free and enjoying the underwater world. Competitive egos have twisted it into "who can go longer, deeper, faster," and it has led to this sport is the 2nd most dangerous adventure sport next to base-jumping. The longer you dive, and the more you are in the water, the longer your body will allow you to be in the water. Always having a buddy with you too is also another layer of safety.

[@marc1047]

Thank you for this@@takackman9325 ! If I feel anything, especially discomfort I automatically swim up. Safety first

[@erichoskinson2567]

They are reading your mind.....

[@chrisjames3236]

Im actually enjoying freediving now, and been to couple dives, im not a pro i only last almost a minute underwater, i wanted to stay longer underwater and exceed my limit but after watching this. Jesus.

[@theguy4812]

Funny, I am acually wathing this because I want to get better at freediving

[@privatenoneofyourbusiness5292]

Please don't use The Messiah's Name in vain!

[@fraka899]

Don't worry bro

[@firasmegrahi8587]

this sport is not a game, it's an extreme sport, always respect rules and all good

[@whattowatch7908]

@@privatenoneofyourbusiness5292 That's not his name.

[@josekarlosdentexdentex1217]

NEW TITLE----"HOW TO DIE, TIPS AND TRICKS"

[@o-o6355]

i can't believe theirs 38 minutes of this lol.

[@lindanwfirefighter4973]

I love the Safety at 30:00 knew she was in trouble long before the judge and jumped in. He did it even though the judge got mad at him!

[@leah.internet]

Amazing work. Can't believe he got shit from the judges. They seem to call way too late on all of them.

[@Francisco-vk6ot]

True!! hate how in the second video and some of the others they take sooo long to pick the diver up

[@chrisphelps6671]

You need to let the person disqualify themselves ie. Dip their airways after surfacing in pool disciplines, black out or grab the line in depth(FIM is the only discipline you’re allowed to pull up on the line after your turn at the baseplate).

[@AmbitiousDucks]

Completely agree. I will never regret pulling someone -- no record is worth losing your life!

[@radziahradzi]

Omg, that's me at 16:24 😆

[@orlandorodriguez7235]

Stay safe! No dive or record is worth losing your life to. We want to see you keep diving!

[@alolangi5007]

Tell me your feeling when you find your limit,btw you are awesome 👌

[@kareimsevret7668]

How long wer u diving before the blackout??

[@radziahradzi]

@@orlandorodriguez7235 that's true, I was rookie at this time, I learned to not BO now though my performance don't improve much 😆 don't worry, I've got my lessons from 3 BOs from each pool discipline (STA, DYN, DNF) and never BO anymore now ☺️ i never BO in the ocean either, but that's probably because my depth is still very shallow. thanks for your concern 🤗

[@radziahradzi]

@@alolangi5007 thank you! It was a long time ago when I had that BO, but the feeling I can tell you from my experiences (because I had 3 BOs in total of my life and never anymore once I chill out of competition desire 😆)...is first contraction so bad that I wanna surface, and decided to surface, just for a short moment before the surface the dive become easy and hard stuff gone, then when I surface, switch off and just wake up when I was grabbed...like lost 1 seconds of awareness

[@fullerton6582]

God: I'll give you lungs to breathe. This guys: hold my jeans.

[@Dannysoutherner]

This is pretty hard core watching someone actually drown on film and be rescued. Unlike the last writer I definitely give a LIKE because this shows what can happen and you never know it. I mean instant. It is spooky how these elite athletes can go until they pass out. Most of us are gasping long before these people blink an eye. But fooling with mother nature can get you killed. Hats off to the rescue teams.

[@johnboutwell3251]

Helps put the insanity of competitive freediving in perspective, keep up the good work you guys does great things for breath hold diving! Lol.

[@thefreedriver89]

Freediving is not for competition

[@thecanadianpainter]

@@thefreedriver89 competitive freediving is a thing and this comment mentions nothing of competition. Competitive free diving is to test your limits and in some clips you can see a rank system.

[@amoledor]

It's really interesting to know that even if you come up and breathe, holding your breath for too long can have such a buildup of CO2 in your system that you can still pass out and drown. Pretty eye opening for those that plan to swim alone.

[@sephusx]

You pass out cause lack of oxygen, not because of build up of CO2. There is not enough oxygen in the blood and your brain shut down even if you are trying to recover

[@yd8104]

@@sephusx Yep. It's important to understand the physiology correctly. Even if you breathe, depending on heart rate and blood pressure, the fresh oxygen you just inhaled can take 30s to reach the brain

[@javierborda8684]

You convinced me. Never doing this ;-)

[@mikereddy18]

The Italians love dynamic apnea

[@MiguelOliveira.78]

I don't understand why some competitions insist in doing it in the 2nd lane, when it's much safer doing it in the first one... 😕 🤔

[@ericaa.5438]

at 0:29 was that the JUDGES'S gum that dropped on his face

[@maxmustermann7794]

Good eyes ^^

[@yesean59]

some people push to the limit and beyond. sometime is more important knowing when is your limit. but than again, if not push to the limit how can these guys get better.

[@ChadNelson-v7v]

The only thing missing is “hold my beer watch this”.

[@tatyananumber]

Can you put the list of the songs you use in your vids I must find out what they are?

[@thefreedriver89]

if you search in youtube music library you can find them. just filter for electronic music and track longer than 5 minutes

[@tatyananumber]

@@thefreedriver89 I don't know how to do that as I only use youtube to watch vids.

[@joshmcnulty5950]

I didn't realise freediving was so big in Italy

[@thefreedriver89]

That’s maybe because we have many places from north to south where you can easily go spearfishing or just practice recreational freediving.. Sardinia is a great place to do it👍

[@dbsuper3931]

Here 21:04 that guy when he woke up he said move your hand don't help me :(

[@maxmustermann7794]

12:35 When you finally reach the bar squeezing your way through the dancing crowd, only to get hammered asap

[@explorehunter]

@18:50 very unprofessional rescue team. What and why were they waiting for? Signs of blackout were more than evident and he have already started to drown and breathe water. But the rescue team was waiting as if they want to let him get completely drown and drink water!

[@stefanoc3891]

Agree, this was the one that scared me most.

[@chloecarlson4539]

Just curious, I know about nothing on this topic, what does it mean to tap the yellow sign?

[@thefreedriver89]

That you’re fully conscious after your dive and you have to do the protocol within 15 seconds

[@vindicator2008]

so you basically drown and the judge goes like.. you fail you fucker get out of here :D LMFAO

[@traytonsorensen8352]

Usually compilations are funny

[@thefreedriver89]

That’s not actually true 🤔

[@salviatrip7083]

I sorta planned on doing this, but these people got like 2-3 spotters with them, so i can't do it then? Just got 1 life guard in pool

[@thefreedriver89]

As far as it concerns safety during training, it is important that you have at least one spotter always looking after you while you are under water. Most of the divers in this video are actually in competition, so they are trying to get their best performance with the stress of the competition. Moreover, dynamic apnea is the freediving discipline characterized by the highest number of blackouts, because it's very easy to go beyond your limits and swim those extra 5 meters which will make you go BO. Anyway, a blackout remains a not common thing, especially when training, so, as far as you have a spotter, you're always good to go.

[@salviatrip7083]

valerio.l105 I see. Maybe i can just bring a friend to always watch me. The life guards are pretty strict there about holding your breath, but maybe will not care if my friend watches me so they don't do the work if anything. But i do apnea walks most of the time, and seem to be okay so far

[@thefreedriver89]

Pools' life guards always tend to complain about holding your breath underwater in the swimming pool; most of the times they won't let you do that. Plus, you cannot count on the life guard as a spotter: you always need someone whose attention is 100% focused on you all the time. If you find a swimming pool where life guards are cool about freediving and you have a training buddy or simply a spotter, you're good:)

[@salviatrip7083]

valerio.l105 Yeah not a single pool around me allows that. I guess i'll just stick to co2 and o2 tables, and apnea walks till summer time. I hope it increases my dive at summer

[@radziahradzi]

Never freedive without proper buddy, lifeguard isn't train to rescue this type of blackout, you should have proper buddy to spot you that understand freediving

[@Th3SMS]

Almost dying every day sounds like a sport I want to get into.

[@guyfawkes469]

Why wouldn’t they surfaced at the first instance they felt the need of air to avoid this?

[@thefreedriver89]

It’s very complicated...one second you’re pretty ok, the next second you black out, the key is getting to know yourself

[@karljosephuspunay3504]

Stupidity

[@cozyone4359]

Practically you are in need of air after a while, but you keep pushing. But the fealing getting close to your limit can change quickly

[@sephusx]

To add on this, usually when u start to have CO2 build up (the urge to breath) you still have plenty of oxygen in your body to keep going. To give you a ballpark number you could well be at half of your reserve, which means you could stay under water for double of the time. Divers train resistance to CO2 build up in the body to be able to dive comfortably for longer

[@yd8104]

@@sephusx In those cases, assuming they were in good shape, good sleep etc. Does it mean that they have resisted the CO2 build up for so long that the oxygen level have reached the low point where the brain goes into no fail mode? If that's true, how is it possible to become better? Maybe that's why they say it takes years of training to become a top performer, because your body have to adapt by lowering the heart rate even more and expanding lung capacity to bring more oxygen from the start?

[@Racingirl911]

I am fascinated with free diving, and I have a question. But first, I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge on this subject. It looks as though the people who are in the water with the diver have to wait until they are told to go ahead and help the diver. Is that what I’m seeing, or is there another reason why they hesitate for a few seconds before bringing the diver up?

[@yd8104]

I had the same question. I think it's because the diver can still recover by himself even after a loss of motor control and his performance be valid because people are allowed to push their limits. And as soon as the security guys put their hands on the diver, the performance is invalid, so they give the diver a chance to recover by himself. But when the diver's head falls back into the water it's over and that's when they help him.

[@stefanoc3891]

Yes is that, bc help means disqualification of the diver.

[@Racingirl911]

Thanks you guys! That makes perfect sense! 😊

[@ChadNelson-v7v]

So the diver then just goes until they think they have reached their limit and is it a time or distance or both that counts? And if they need rescuing their dive don’t count?

[@rixter69]

30:14 best supporter!

[@lasagnaravioli]

Really though. Sounded like the person on the side didn’t want the safety to help. But the safety knew what was up

[@nuclearping]

@@lasagnaravioli Yea, really sounded like that hag on the side discussed with the safety divers that she (the diver) didn't blackout, when she clearly was ... Wtf.

[@cymbala6208]

So true! And absolutely crazy, those people shouting "no no no", when the diver was clearly blacking out...!

[@erichoskinson2567]

Why do they wait so long to save the person? You can clearly tell they are about to blackout but they just sit there till the person is underwater for a few seconds. Does it like cancel their run if they blackout so they are trying to give them the best chance?

[@rfroodt]

If they blackout they are disqualified. If they have a samba or loss of motor control without dipping their airways they get a penalty but is still successful in their attempt.

[@OmniAtlantic]

I generally free dive and spearfish ever week .These boys and girls are generally just pushing to hard. There are limits .All of us have them.

[@thefreedriver89]

Agree

[@adamsprestage4194]

It's all about preserving life not quality of life. It's there job to save their lives they can treat potential injuries from being thrown around at another time.

[@snuffle2269]

So your playing a game of chicken with death what with all those rescue swimmers ready and watching for that sign of oxygen deprivation and fainting.

[@5starcomment]

Number 1: Quick, give him mouth to mouth...Number 2: I ain't kissing a guy...

[@rimotivri]

under surface stuff are awsome. Cool.

[@joseluisg.9637]

Que significa la tarjeta roja?

[@rosen945]

jose luis!! G. Descalificado

[@nomcredite2251]

Hello, we want Static apnea Blackout!! Thank's

[@thefreedriver89]

It will come soon! Cheers

[@alka77200]

i didn't know this was a sport, that was some scary shit ngl

[@erichoskinson2567]

They say when you come to from blacking out people either cry or get pissed off and I'd say that looks about right

[@thefreedriver89]

Not really...it’s more like a very peaceful sensation

[@dschonsie]

what about the yellow sign? does the colour stimulate your breathing?

[@stefanoc3891]

You have to hit to sign the referee you are conscious. It's like passing the arrival signal

[@dilitor]

In my good days i was making 3'40" on dry land and some way past 3' diving , when playing catch up with mates . That being said , people must know that in time the brain gets damaged . So , people take care.

[@sephusx]

The brain doesn't get damaged holding your breath

[@TheTurtleOfGods]

The only brain damage could be dead cells AFTER a blackout. Simply holding your breath isn't killing cells, and these guys have WAY too much CO2 buildup

[@fraka899]

Only if you have numerous blackouts. Diving does not damage the brain

[@OmniAtlantic]

Yes the music's atrocious. I love spearfishing and often dive bye my self. Safe bet not drive longer than 1 minute and no deeper than 10m.

[@cjesterhuizen419]

Can someone explain this to me? Is the point to go as far as possible till you blackout ?

[@kimmanalo3848]

CJ Esterhuizen No. But because of their competitiveness, they push theirselves to their limits that eventually caused this.

[@cjesterhuizen419]

Kim Riego oh, thank you. I had no idea. I’ve seen the free diving version but not this version in a pool with what looked like judges giving the swimmers red cards if they received assistance from the safety crew.

[@unbekannt-eh5gh]

@@cjesterhuizen419 in freediving you get disqualified for a number of things for example blacking out, dying or getting rescued by the safety guards. Unfortunately a lot of people push past their limits to win the competitions.

[@ROrneli]

@@unbekannt-eh5gh you get disqualified for dying ? so unfair ..

[@TheVadim117]

Кто в курсе, что за круг подносят на телескопической удочке к фридайверу?

[@anonymoushippopotamus3862]

The safety divers a still way to slow to react in a lot of these situations

[@thefreedriver89]

Agree

[@nuclearping]

It looks like these are competitions. If you cancel the dive and resurface, you have 15 seconds or so to perform a "surface protocol", like removing your goggles, nose clip, and give the ok sign to the judges. And if everything is ok, then your performance counts. If you blackout during that period and need intervention by safety divers, your performance doesn't count. So it seems the safety divers only intervene when the divers can't recover by themself.

[@anonymoushippopotamus3862]

@@nuclearping Your absolutely correct in what you say, I guess not being a free diver it appears a lot more scarier?? In saying that though, safety protocols whether it be free diving, mma or any other extreme sport should always be revised with the intention of finding ways to improve.

[@franckdebank]

Before 19:00 I rather disagree, finding safety divers quite quick to react but considering then that last timing they clearly f up. Now let me enjoy the rest

[@allanaguado3005]

Is it the way how you feel when you lost air in your lungs.

[@papercutpostman1660]

This seems quite dangerous...

[@rimotivri]

freediving stuff are awsome. Cool.

[@tjitjo]

Where are these taken? God damn the crew is amateurisha bit too often. Edit: Aha I get it, they're not allowed to intervene before the judges say something. Should be at their discretion I think.

[@coolboy28000]

Why are they not puting them in recovery position to allow the potential water out of lungs????.

[@fraka899]

There is no water in lungs, they just need o2

[@markong2542]

now i know how people get drown without knowing.

[@thefreedriver89]

Exactly

[@Vertigo_Effect99]

18:45 was definitely too late.

[@JustPeaceLoveAndKindness]

That wasn’t a blackout...it was seizure setting in from hypoxia. Not good for the brain.

[@Mydevineself]

I know. That one blew my mind. Sometimes it seems watchers just get tired or they pick and choose. Some are better than others or they don't want to over step and end up calling it too early. But when its obvious like that its hard to not feel some type of way. Would not want they looking after me in the water!!

[@stefanoc3891]

That is called samba, is a different body reaction of lack of oxygen.

[@rimotivri]

uw topics are awsome. Cool.

[@thefreedriver89]

Thanks man!

[@CraigDirty]

Wait so, if they stop and come up without assistance. Is their distance measured? Is that a successful dive?

[@thefreedriver89]

Exactly

[@Fanijan995]

Black out is an immediate disqualification..

[@fraka899]

Doesn't count. That's the point. It's the same for every diving competition, horrizontal, vertical or static

[@enzoazarraga5839]

If anyone is Wondering why they just fall back in the water, their lungs auto breathing basically turns off

[@laurentfargues8113]

Never ever dive alone

[@satrioadhi2832]

Good video

[@thefreedriver89]

Thanks man!

[@satrioadhi2832]

Keep make video for us, knowledge about black out

[@lindanwfirefighter4973]

What’s the red card about?

[@rudolphc6830]

I choose to save lives of those who are willing to risk it.

[@budgiebreder]

One thing I just dont get, when theyre pulled out their laid on the back, on the side drains the airway! Why leave someone on their back when the side is the safest?

[@thefreedriver89]

Well... most of the times their airways are not filled with water...glottis is shut during a blackout... they just need to be stimulated in order to regain consciousness and restart breathing

[@budgiebreder]

valerio.l105 recovery position is side for airway as its the easiest way to breathe. Again why NOT have them on their side. Why is it always back?

[@shaltonmartis1314]

@@budgiebreder because they are out lol. they are not there, thus not likely to just regain a normal breathing pattern. they need help, to help someone while having them on their side in the water is a tough task. its easier to get air down them while having to facing upwards.

[@budgiebreder]

shalton martis i mean when theyre pulled out of the water.

[@stefanoc3891]

Side position is to not close your breath with tongue. Here people has control of the tongue so it's not a risk of suffocation, but they just need time to breath and let oxygen reach the brain again

[@theomacka_6265]

And does it count if you black out ?

[@ellec2935]

No. They are disqualified

[@theomacka_6265]

@@ellec2935 Oh ok, thanks

[@dclong-]

I wonder if he died and got a glimpse into hell

[@orlandorodriguez7235]

This is why Europe is so much better than USA in freediving and spearfishing. I’ve never heard of any of this in the US.

[@Andizu1]

Imagine that...blacking out and then getting a red card for blacking out. Speaking about adding insult to injury! (of course they receive a red card, they failed the competition, I'm not saying I don't agree with that)

[@ceycey2648]

18:45 this one is the worst of them all xD you have one job...

[@Eniramoi]

That's what I thought but seeing how they stretch their arms out it looks like they can't touch the diver before the judges said it was okay

[@ceycey2648]

Eniram oh yes you are right, i didn’t know it worked like that i am all new to this sport. The judge’s fault it was then

[@Eniramoi]

@@ceycey2648 I don't know anything about it, that's just what I assumed

[@TripleDDDD]

Whats the yellowmround thing on a pole at 6:32 ? Never seen that at a competition.

[@thefreedriver89]

Not sure about it. Maybe is something the diver should look at during the surfacing protocol.

[@TripleDDDD]

valerio.l105 I think you are right. at 14:12 the trainer says „and touch“. So probably the rule, that you have to be able to touch the yellow thing within a given time to show you are aware/conscious. I guess CMAS rules. Like at AIDA you have give the OK sign within 15sec (or 20 sec? i forgot)

[@cymbala6208]

That cannot be a healthy sport discipline.

[@tjitjo]

Seems a bit excessive to slap the red card in someone's face after they almost drowned 😂geeze man. Also don't listen to the music haters, I think it adds to the intensity!

[@justinbustin677]

All these folks have lost a few brain cells

[@privatenoneofyourbusiness5292]

Honor your body, we're not fish. Breathe!

[@thefreedriver89]

We partly are

[@kennysimms5217]

What is that u shaped contraption around their back neck, almost looks like a Hans device like what race car drivers wear. HEAD AND NECK SUPPORT

[@kennysimms5217]

Or is it just a floatation device

[@moleqle]

Weight

[@stefanoc3891]

It's weight to balance upper side of body down

[@dear3dh]

30:12の救助は正しい判断ですね。

[@justinbustin677]

Regardless of if the person is fine. When they come up they need to be held. Uneccessary injesting water.

[@caroleboyer7230]

Why do people do this, so we can see can them pass out. Sorry after 6mts of this i had enough.

[@snuffle2269]

I'll think about this when I run off the road to get out of the way of an ambulance.

[@thefreedriver89]

Why do people play soccer?

[@rimotivri]

deep things are welcome. Cool.

[@antoniomontana4143]

28:30 What the fuck? Why don't they blow, tap and talk to her? Did they seriourly whistle? o.O

[@samanthawalker4171]

Its a fantastic way of showcasing just how dangerous free diving actually is, but PLEASE 🙏🏻 STOP with the hideous music.

[@micha.g6528]

36:25

[@madfox7777]

So this only happens when you push past your limits? I have frequent big wave hold downs when I surf but nearly always make it to the surface befor the first contraction (Not shallow water blackouts, I don't go deep enough to worry about them)

[@shienaanddary6786]

MadFox777 now i know

[@thefreedriver89]

In order to black out you really need to push yourself...the first contraction is about half of your apnea time

[@madfox7777]

@@thefreedriver89 thanks. I'm slowly learning about freediving and I think it will help me with all other water Sports.

[@s0llem]

Bullshit. This statement can get people drowned. There are way more factors than that. I had a black out in 3/5 of my usual distance, just because I did it in the end of the training session, hadn't had enough recovery from my static hold and I did hyperventilation. Didn't even feel bad, just went to sleep. That's why you never dive/train ALONE. Never. Ever.

[@ak-wt6ll]

No weird music plz

[@lenasarajevo6532]

The music and sound is totally unnecessary.

[@1hdgurl]

Music is not needed and is annoying!

[@m.j.b.]

Nicht gut , Ganicht gut !

[@telcomscott]

What in the hell is the point of this?? I'm a long time scuba diver and have no idea.

[@thefreedriver89]

That’s why you’re a scuba diver😉

[@unbekannt-eh5gh]

They are doing apnoe diving/ freediving. A black out can happen if you push past your limits which is why you shuld never push to hard

[@moleqle]

Because they want TO BE a self contained underwater breath apparatus, not use a self contained underwater breathing apparatus. Couldn’t resist.

[@justoaguilarlinares3209]

SE VE QUE NO TIENEN CONOCIMIENTOS FÍSICOS...

[@73studman]

Thats just stupid.keep doing dangerus sports...

[@thefreedriver89]

It’s not stupid

[@araujo9302]

Por que é que esses salva-vidas só podem agir depois que essa mulher autoriza? O nadador sempre mergulha a cara devolta na água e só depois é que ela diz "segula-lo". Isso é um desrespeito com o nadador.

[@rimotivri]

uw topics are welcome. Cool.

[@dapurmerrosupport]

Paet

[@jackiefitzpatrick2906]

Music sucks !

[@davidspreitzelings826]

1:49 That guy might have been severely injured by the guy in red shirt dropping his head to the floor... Whats wrong with these medics panicking? Just relax and do BTT...

[@matthewsmeets]

Those weren't medics. Looks like red cross. Big difference in some countries. The guy in the red shirt probably knows more what he is doing, but yeah that was just bad of him to drop the guy like that

[@stefanoc3891]

Same guy is on last video ... Bad falling 😔

[@araujo9302]

Isso é ridículo. Pra mim chega!

[@thefreedriver89]

No

[@jofox1186]

Horrible music - good grief!

[@halflife2294]

the common sense of these people.... they just watched that girl almost dying and just sat kneeled there like they were to cool to grab her themselves.