The Most Overrated Diesel…12 Valve P-Pump Cummins

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Freedom Worx

Freedom Worx

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@wesleycameron1034
@wesleycameron1034 6 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work you’re going to blow up at some point soon.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
Let's hope so. I'm ready to retire from corporate life 😉 Thanks for the kind words 👍
@machine7767
@machine7767 6 ай бұрын
12 valves help marriages last longer because you can't ever hear your wife while your driving it.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
Same with my 7.3L Power Stroke 😂
@hankclingingsmith8707
@hankclingingsmith8707 6 ай бұрын
​@@freedomworxyou can put high pressure cross over hose and full fuel line cross over quites them way down
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
@hankclingingsmith8707 I’ve got all that. I’m assuming you’ve never seen the build videos for my excursion 😉. It’s still loud. I’ve got single shot injectors.
@nickdeluca7742
@nickdeluca7742 6 ай бұрын
My 6.0 Powerstroke, straight piped, is equally as loud!😂
@Rusty.1776
@Rusty.1776 5 ай бұрын
I'm about 80-85ish % with ya on your chart. However, I feel you're missing a few key elements. It's too much for me to blabber about in the comments, so I must succeed...😑😆😉
@owenbearden5769
@owenbearden5769 6 ай бұрын
“700hp isn’t streetable with a single” My dumbass daily driving a big single 900hp duramax can absolutely verify that is true. It’s a rough life
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
It’ll spool up…tomorrow 😉😂
@100pyatt
@100pyatt 6 ай бұрын
​@@freedomworx🤣🤣💯💯💯Laggy pig .. big sucker single compared to compounds 🤣🤣
@mrpeyton5393
@mrpeyton5393 4 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx s476 on a CR 5.9 with some big injectors doesnt take too long just a little smokey
@SoulTouchMusic93
@SoulTouchMusic93 2 ай бұрын
Hopefully the aftermarket will catch up to those 48volt turbos that Germany are pumping out these days. They will cut out all the lag!
@johneubanks5951
@johneubanks5951 15 күн бұрын
​@@freedomworx😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 damn you have some good oneliners...lmao
@mikemakuh5319
@mikemakuh5319 6 ай бұрын
30 +years no dowel pin problem, gobs of torque, 20+MPG, and,,,,,,,,,,,,,,NO expensive repairs except 3 gallons of Delo once a year!
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
If you didn't have the KDP issue, you just got lucky. It's a very common failure.
@bobbyeddings1031
@bobbyeddings1031 6 ай бұрын
Kdp, simple fix.
@woodsmonkey2265
@woodsmonkey2265 5 ай бұрын
400ft lbs isn't considered a lot of torque especially for a diesel
@bobbyeddings1031
@bobbyeddings1031 5 ай бұрын
All depends on what application, cummins were detuned for light truck duty due to transmission limitations.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
They didn’t detune them enough obviously. Those transmission would fail if you looked at the the wrong way 😂
@davidrice313
@davidrice313 6 ай бұрын
Piss of Al Gore and the EPA, you say? Count me in.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
"off" 😉
@legionofanon
@legionofanon 6 ай бұрын
Piss on em lol
@jamesharrison2041
@jamesharrison2041 2 ай бұрын
@@legionofanon SOUNDS LIKE A EXELLENT TIME TO VISIT california.
@someidiot1984
@someidiot1984 6 ай бұрын
You are doing the rest of the build I wanted to do with my first gen. Good job
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. This thing should rip in my old Squarebody Service Truck 😎
@dws5951
@dws5951 6 ай бұрын
Casual and super entertaining engine build ... good channel to subscribe to ... being a Ram 5.9 owner.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
I appreciate the kind words 👍
@derekpeters214
@derekpeters214 6 ай бұрын
I have a 12 valve in my 68 F100 short bed in people's minds are always blown on how much I have into it to get it to run as well as it does
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
Nah man. You can make 500HP for $17 dollars with a 12V 😉
@Hillbillypunk
@Hillbillypunk 6 ай бұрын
That tortoise yawning was the slowest, most hilarious thing ever.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
Seemed appropriate. 😂
@Yelladog78
@Yelladog78 6 ай бұрын
The 12v was my first experience with a diesel engine in a pickup so it'll always have a sweet spot with me
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
It’s a great engine. 👍
@moshpit0survivor
@moshpit0survivor 6 ай бұрын
I know how your parts got lost in the mail. It's because idaho doesn't exist and so all mail headed there just falls off the side of the earth...cause it's flat. 🧐
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
😂😂. So basically Montana is the edge of the earth... Got it!
@corvairwally
@corvairwally 6 ай бұрын
Yes exactly idaho is fake. No one move here its fake and we are 100% full 😂
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
@corvairwally I would believe you, but I’ve been there several times. I was once on a motorcycle trip, and I was so happy to cross into Idaho and out of Oregon so I could pump my own gas. Those things stick with you 😂
@dws5951
@dws5951 6 ай бұрын
hold on for a minute ... I live at the border of Brit Columbia Canada and Idaho.. nearest Idaho town is Bonners Ferry ... was just there a few days ago !! IDAHO EXISTS. scouts honor it really does.
@crazycoffee
@crazycoffee 6 ай бұрын
Don't get me started about Washington. I swear bigfoot has a stash of stolen packages in the Cascades
@Average1212
@Average1212 5 ай бұрын
12 valve saved my marriage, before getting it my wife tried to talk to me on road trips.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
Yep. And saving a marriage is saving money. So it basically made you money 🤓
@Average1212
@Average1212 5 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx That it did that truck was the lowest cost 100K i ever put on a vehicle. In 100K i had a headlight relay (the switch burns out as soon as you let someone else drive it) and had to adjust that stupid throttle idle adjustment (gen 2 if you know the one you know my pain).
@DeeJay-iz3ts
@DeeJay-iz3ts 6 ай бұрын
Im glad you made this video, i love my 12v cummins. Its a stick shift, 4x4, dually found it for 9k bone stock. Ive installed compounds, replaced turbos, imstalled a dual mass clutch, and now im on to head studs and pump upgrades. This is really expensive and time consuming. But i wouldnt trade how easy the repairs are for the hp my dads 6.7 makes, hes spent triple just in repairs for failed parts
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, those new diesel repairs can get very expensive. 👍
@jamesharrison2041
@jamesharrison2041 2 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx GOOD ENGINE ''' BUT I PREPER MY 5.9/24
@Chad_H
@Chad_H 6 ай бұрын
I notice the 6.4 PSD was not even on your chart 😂
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
Sucks to. They are the most capable engine as far as power production goes, they just won’t stay together.
@crazycoffee
@crazycoffee 6 ай бұрын
The few times I've pulled a 6.4 powerstroke apart theyve been destroyed. Either by carbon buildup or something relating to coolant getting into the oil. Id love new diesels if they were just more reliable.
@alvinhyman6838
@alvinhyman6838 4 ай бұрын
I got over 242,000 on mine and still running strong. The 6.4 is very easy to make power, because a complete delete and a very mild tune gets you to 500HP ! All the newer diesels require malicious maintenance and that old BT started life as a 300HP tractor motor that can be neglected and keep on going. They detuned it to put in the pickup so that it didn't kill the transmission!
@davidgates1122
@davidgates1122 3 ай бұрын
That is because when you take one to a mechanic to get its issues fixed and the mechanic gives you the estimate, you discover why you got the truck so cheap. The 6.4 was a stopgap measure to have a diesel in a Ford that would meet emissions standards until Ford could finish development of their own engine. There is a reason these things were in production for all of 3 years while the successor has been around for over a decade.
@localeightironworker
@localeightironworker 5 ай бұрын
ive been slowly but surely building my 97 7.3 into a (more) reliable motor. been a fun project to say the least, every time a part fails, i do my research and replace it with something tougher or more efficient. the fluidampr harmonic balancer and melling LPOP was the last real battle I had with the truck. injector o-rings and valve cover gaskets are coming up next. i did wonder for a while if i wouldn't have been better off 12v swapping it but the money never looked right when you consider all the supporting mods into that swap, especially when i already had a running truck producing acceptable power. i appreciate the video my man.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
Fixing the 7.3L will be cheaper by a huge margin. Pretty much everyone underestimates the budget and time required to do a swap. Just keep throwing money at the Powersmoke. 👍
@paulr-ct1dl
@paulr-ct1dl Ай бұрын
I'm also working on my 97 7.3. Got away from working on my own stuff for years but the amount of videos online for trouble shooting is amazing. It's definitely costing me $$$ to get it perfect.
@joshmanis9860
@joshmanis9860 6 ай бұрын
Dropped a valve on my racing lawnmower and bent a pushrod. why did Briggs make the exhaust valve pushrod hollow aluminum?
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
Well having worked for Briggs and Stratton as a Co-op while is was engineering school, I can tell you that just about anything in that engine that makes you scratch your head, is the way it is to reduce manufacturing costs 😉
@joshmanis9860
@joshmanis9860 6 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx makes sense
@cupwalker24.7
@cupwalker24.7 4 ай бұрын
Sweet Racin Mowers ! For cooling and oil flow I guess 🤔 makes the valve lighter for cooling . Not so heat sinked maybe .
@joshmanis9860
@joshmanis9860 4 ай бұрын
@@cupwalker24.7 the thing is, it’s a splash lubricated engine so I assume it’s for cost savings. I just switched it out for a steel one
@joshmanis9860
@joshmanis9860 4 ай бұрын
@@cupwalker24.7 the thing is, it’s a splash lubricated engine so I assume it’s for cost savings. I just switched it out for a steel one
@espweirdo
@espweirdo 6 ай бұрын
I was so hoping you would use those new golf ball speed of air pistons! Love your content!!
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
You ever looked at the price of those pistons? Only way I’m trying them is if they send them to me for free. 🥴
@-OokySpooky-
@-OokySpooky- 5 ай бұрын
I was always on the fence with diesels, but I still remember the day Mozart's Lacrimosa played in my head when I saw a single cab shortbed D150 Cummins swap with a turbo bolted straight to the exhaust manifold timed right at head, piped directly to the intake. It was so beautiful. So simple. Just a turbo, a short piece of pipe, and two short rubber hose connectors. Straight out the turbo and literally straight into the throttle body. Perfection.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
That 12 valve sound has hooked many men 😂
@MrNismopro
@MrNismopro 5 ай бұрын
1st time watching one of your videos, I watch another dude that does workout videos Ryan Humiston, and I swear you not only look like him but your humor is exactly like his. You made me laugh about 80 times. Educational and funny. Subscribed!
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate the support. I’ll have to look him up 👍
@mick00000000002
@mick00000000002 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reply. 100 percent. I thank you. Appetite all you did . Pray you get a million hits. Mick Australia 🇦🇺
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@lynnmcculloch-m4h
@lynnmcculloch-m4h 5 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤
@1oldskoolluvr
@1oldskoolluvr 5 ай бұрын
"Still has a dashboard & rocker panels" Bro.....that had me ROLLIN'! 😆👍🏻👍🏻
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
2nd Gen’s are turds 💩🤷🏻‍♂️😂
@1oldskoolluvr
@1oldskoolluvr 5 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx true 😂
@bef1644
@bef1644 9 күн бұрын
"The extra grit in the old oil" got me - SUBSCRIBED!!!
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 күн бұрын
Cuts faster...like Comet Scouring Powder 😂
@trackpackgt877
@trackpackgt877 6 ай бұрын
wow it amazes me how far trucks have come my 2018 F150 is putting 350 🐎 horse and 430 pounds of torque to the ground with just a 93 octane tune. just a decade or so ago u had to have a Diesel to make that much. We are really spoiled horsepower wise with modern truck! Not to mention modern Diesels putting out 500 horse and 1200 pounds of torque!! unfortunately emissions systems and def have killed there reliability. Great video brother I'm not really a Cummins guy but I enjoy this video and look forward to more
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it. 👍
@trackpackgt877
@trackpackgt877 6 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx thanks for the reply bro u earned a subscription. have a good week
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
@trackpackgt877 awesome 👍
@3000fpe
@3000fpe 5 ай бұрын
My ‘18 halfton ford with 5.0 out pulls the 05 dodge with 5.9 Cummins I had once. Both in take off and up hills. Sure, it revs out more but still, goes to show how overrated Cummins and other diesels are compared to modern gassers. If I was pulling trailers very often I would go with a diesel but for pulling a heavy load a few times a year, having a stinky noisy Cummins is impractical and not economical any anyway. Way quicker, more comfortable, and fun to drive than a big turf with a tractor engine
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
@@3000fpe and a 3.5L Eco-Boost will outpull that 5.0L 😉.
@MichaelHigginsJR
@MichaelHigginsJR 6 ай бұрын
Awesome, happy to find a new channel to binge of quality content.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍😎
@Requiszambie
@Requiszambie 2 ай бұрын
I love the 12valve rasp When you build one alittle bit surpassing that 3200rpm mark sounds like a 5.9cr Also ppump go brrrrrrr I love my 21 6.7 for a daily and towing 14k pbs pretty often its a get in and go but theres just somthing about pushing the throttle 1/4 way to start the truck and that idle hearing everything and i mean everything down to the oil pressure on the main bearings Im 20k into my big single with a new used engine in my 96 not including the trans work and clutch lol but theres just somthing about a 2nd gen 12valve i cant shake
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 ай бұрын
I hear ya. I got tired of waiting in the machine shop, so I bought another engine…with a Hot Rod wrapped around it 😂 Machine Shop Cost Me $28,000… #cummins #turbocharger #dieselpower kzbin.infokq8ggq5uBxY?feature=share
@boostbogan
@boostbogan 6 ай бұрын
I love how many people completely missed the point of your video. Keep up the good work
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
Yep. Folks hear what they want to hear and then argue a point that wasn't even part of the conversation 😂
@PNWRIPPA
@PNWRIPPA 6 ай бұрын
A p pump 12 v bottom end can handle about 700hp stock, all you need is 3-4k gov springs, valve springs, arp head studs, 0 fuel plate( or no plate), a nice set of 120 horse injectors, 4 or 5 in turbo back straight pipe, nicely tuned pump, and a 3rd gen turbo (or one of your choosing), and you can make a clean very reliable 450-550 hp with over 1000ft lbs of torque, and also a tranny that’ll hold this power, but it is very easy and very cheap to build one of these pigs, love the vids please correct if I’m wrong but I’ve seen and helped build multiple p pump 12v to rippers ( can’t say the same for VE pump 12v, there just pigs )
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
You need everything I listed to make a reliable, streetable, clean 550HP or 700HP. I don’t spend money unless I have to 😉. It might be easy, but it isn’t cheap.
@PNWRIPPA
@PNWRIPPA 6 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx yes totally agree, that would make a truck drive like a dream, and run like a top 365 days out of the year, but we are normal, everyday drivers that tow wheelers on weekends, if your not doing boosted launches and already have the normal upgrades such as, lift pump, egt-coolant-trans temp gauges, and have a manual tranny , but we have all gotten very lucky and scored on two built trannys for under 2000$ a peice still rippin three years later, but a normal dude with common sense can do a minimal build and keep the motor alive. Keepin it cheap and driving moderate, again these vids are super informational, love it keep it up 👍
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
@PNWRIPPA yes, I’m sure someone could get away with it for a while. Just depends on how much they like to party 😂
@bigmurph1447
@bigmurph1447 6 ай бұрын
Wrong stock bottom end will handle over 1000hp on a 12v. A 5.9common rail will only handle 700hp because of the rods. That's why they put 12v rods on the common rails. Tons of 12v pulling trucks over 1000hp with stock bottom ends
@PNWRIPPA
@PNWRIPPA 6 ай бұрын
@@bigmurph1447 damnnnn, I’ve heard of people running shitloads of power through stock bottom ends, I’ve just never witnessed a 12v with over 650hp, thanks man 👍ima read up on some builds.
@lucascb750
@lucascb750 6 ай бұрын
I giggle at every 600hp 12 valve, because it's really only 400... Get a full port job though and the head outflows a 4 valve.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
Butt Dyno certified 🤓
@jordanknute2029
@jordanknute2029 3 ай бұрын
For sure agree dude. 80% of guys pull their fuel plate, crank the pump, bump the timing, block the wastegate and go around like "I have 450whp" lol. On stock injectors and stock 56/58 turbo lol. I've got a dyno sheet 513/1032 somewheres here, 64/68 hx35/he351 hybrid, 5x14s with needle work and edge filter removal, conservative 18°, benched 215 pump, 4ks, hamilton valve springs and top hat seals, backyard port matched exh manifold, 1/2" fuel lines and -8an fittings in place of all the 1/8" orifice banjos, hamilton pushrods, and all the other mild-build typical stuff, modified lift pump, intake heat shield, turbo and exhaust manifold blankets, billet intake plenum and tappet cover, extra crank vent, all regular afc stuff etc etc. But stock head, valves, bottom end, injection pump(aside from gov springs), 470,000kms, does blow blue and leaks oil, about a quart/litre every 2 full tanks, but gets 530 miles per tank mixed city hwy, starts through winter exact same as summer, I'd literally let the dodge truck around it fall apart and swap my engine into an f350 with a blown 6.0 or 6.4, just take it with me through different trucks. See how many that engine can outlast lol
@johnmichaels4330
@johnmichaels4330 23 күн бұрын
Man i really like your videos. Youre actually informative and have a good sense of humor. Thanks for the videos.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 22 күн бұрын
I appreciate it 👍
@Taliyon
@Taliyon 5 ай бұрын
I never understand why people try to juice up 12 valves... The best thing about them is that they're tireless dogs. Add oil. Add diesel or jet fuel. Go for literally forever.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
Because they are unbearable to drive in stock trim 😉
@phillhuddleston9445
@phillhuddleston9445 5 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx Dep[ends, if you just want a reliable work truck that will get you from point A to point B for decades with very few problems they are great, if you want a sport truck they suck in stock form.
@oscarbear7498
@oscarbear7498 4 ай бұрын
I have a 4.0 inline 6 in my 2006 jeep just because the engine is reliable and easy to work on. On the highway I'm doing 70mph no problem. I agree with you keep it simple
@Steinerrides
@Steinerrides 8 күн бұрын
I'd take a big block gasser over a stock 12 valve. They're so freaking slow. They really need to be making 300 hp to be worth running over a gas motor imo.
@AlexSomers-d2n
@AlexSomers-d2n 5 ай бұрын
This video was perfect. Love the way that you put up a chart with all the answers and went over both the pros and cons.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it 👍
@edwardman1742
@edwardman1742 6 ай бұрын
I can’t speak for the other makes, but as a 6.0 guy, I can tell you $20k for 400hp is WAY too high. Most expensive thing 6.0 needs are NEW o-ringed heads. Stock fueling system, turbo, tranny are all fine at that level. Not much more $ will get you 500hp. Simple compound kit gets you 600hp+. It’s the reason 6.0’s have a following. They’re cheap and can make great power reliably. They’re super responsive and rev high. Fun engine. 💪🏼🇺🇸🦅
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
$10k for the truck and $10k to delete it, o-ring it, machine it, stud it, and tune it. Thats my math 👍
@hopingforthebest1.9
@hopingforthebest1.9 6 ай бұрын
12 valves have an Achilles heel 6.0s have a whole set of Achilles toes 😂
@edwardman1742
@edwardman1742 6 ай бұрын
@@hopingforthebest1.9not having electronically controlled injection is more than an Achilles heel, lol. It’s a deal breaker for me. Not interested in driving an inefficient smoke box. And if you turn the smoke down with AFC Live, you go back to turtle mode, right? High price to pay for not understanding how to work on the simple and humble 6 Liter.
@ks_1111
@ks_1111 5 ай бұрын
​@@edwardman1742 put down the crack pipe kid
@edwardman1742
@edwardman1742 5 ай бұрын
@@ks_1111 I learned nothing from that comment, so you wasted your life posting, and I wasted my life reading. 😞
@6litreteaser904
@6litreteaser904 5 ай бұрын
The 6.0s headgasket issues are the least of it's issues 😂
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
I’d say it’s the most expensive of its issues. There are definitely other problems with that platform.
@6litreteaser904
@6litreteaser904 5 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx how is it the most expensive? Between 2 of my buddies and I we've owned 9 6.0, and not a single one of them had headgasket issues, 2 of them weren't even studded. One of them makes 700 hp
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
@@6litreteaser904 well, you’ve been pretty lucky 🤷🏻‍♂️
@6litreteaser904
@6litreteaser904 5 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx lucky, huh? How many 6.0s have you personally owned/ran? If you're having headgasket issues you've got other problems. Lot of people don't know how or what to fix on these engines, which leads to repeating failures
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
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@maverickx3838
@maverickx3838 6 ай бұрын
Love your videos. Make more and you will get more subs.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
I appreciate it. I’m trying to speed up the process. But I’ve got a wife, kids, and a full time job competing for my time 👍
@maverickx3838
@maverickx3838 6 ай бұрын
Just remember... kids, KZbin then wife. 😂 and try to fit work in there somewhere.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
Work is optional
@KevinGilpin-qk6nq
@KevinGilpin-qk6nq 3 ай бұрын
I'll stick with my OBS Chevy with a 12 Valve!!! Good Chevy Body and interior with a Bulletproof motor that makes awesome power, sounds amazing and if you double up on sound deadening inside the cab then noise isn't an issue... and its not about HP... its about Torque 💯
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 3 ай бұрын
Sound deadening??? Can’t hide money 😉
@forrestcowan448
@forrestcowan448 3 ай бұрын
U know dodge interior sucks soooo bad when someone is saying 80s chevy interior is better lol
@kenwilson7951
@kenwilson7951 5 күн бұрын
👍l drive 62 GMC 50" tires ind.12 valve, plenty of power 😉💪
@adventurewagen
@adventurewagen 6 ай бұрын
There's a reason why 12 valves are used in commercial, marine, on road, stationary etc and duramax/powerstrokes are not. Don't be a rube.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
There is no comparison between a 6BT and a modern Powerstroke or Duramax. The Cummins was designed as an industrial engine in the 80's with little to no emissions requirements to meet. The Powerstroke and Duramax engines were specifically designed as light truck engines with weight, efficiency, and emissions standards to consider. And as far as power and efficiency, the 6 BT cant hold a candle to a modern Duramax or Powerstroke. Don't be a simp. I own a 7.3 Powerstroke, an LBZ Duramax, a 6BT and a Commons Rail 5.9, so I am not biased. If you want a tractor or boat engine, buy a 6BT, but don't be deceived into thinking that you are gong to buy a 2nd Gen Ram truck and get 6.7 Powerstroke Super Duty or 6.6 Duramax 2500HD performance out of it. That's a pipe dream.
@Bill-sp8kb
@Bill-sp8kb 5 ай бұрын
D-Max, and power stroke engines are used in the medium duty GMC, and F750 trucks. Gale Banks builds D-Max engines for marine use.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
@@Bill-sp8kb like I said the, the Cummins was designed for medium duty applications from the get go. It was never intended to be stuck in a pickup truck. The Duramax and Powerstroke engines, for the most part, were specifically designed for a pickup truck. They get detuned and stuck in larger trucks, but that’s not what they are designed for. And yes, Banks does produce Duramax engines for military marine applications, but that doesn’t mean they are ideal for the application. It just means Gale Banks is an awesome salesman, and the government is ran by idiots. I have worked for the government for 21 years, including 5 in the Marine Corps, and can confirm that U.S. government employees, are in fact… idiots. 🤓
@shorty430551
@shorty430551 7 күн бұрын
Just bought a 12v p pump because I fall into all three exception categories and that line about having a dash and rocker panels hit home.
@HammerWrench
@HammerWrench 6 ай бұрын
That’s quite a bit of work. I’ll probably never build a diesel engine but can definitely enjoy your suffering buddy. 🛠️
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
You can suffer vicariously through me 😉
@MrBrettrx7
@MrBrettrx7 8 күн бұрын
now I know my next welding project because that engine stand is awesome!!
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 8 күн бұрын
That stand came with the engine 😂
@Trump985
@Trump985 6 ай бұрын
The 12 valve is not the most reliable light duty engine. The 6-71 Detroit diesel is far more reliable. I had 2 identical push boats one had a pair of 12 valve Cummins and the other had a pair of 671 Detroits. The 671s were naturally aspirated with N75s and made around 250 HP. The 12 valve Cummins were turbocharged, non intercooled, and rated for 260HP. Both boats got about the same number of hours and moved the same barges on the same bodies of water. In 5 years I had 8 blown up Cummins and only 1 Detroit that wasn’t even blown up it just was in the shop for an overhaul because it was burning a ton of oil. The 671 is more reliable then the 12 valve and it has replaceable liners so you can freshen it up in place between rebuilds. I’m not a fan of the Detroit diesels GM has made some terrible Detroit diesels like the 92 series ticking time bomb. But the inline 671 at a reasonable HP level in my experience is very reliable. Not saying the Cummins is a POS by any stretch of the imagination, but the 671 is certainly a better engine if the additional weight isn’t a concern.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
You are comparing a 2-Stroke 426CI purpose built medium duty engine to a 359CI 4-stroke light duty engine. They are not competitors and not even in the same category. The 71 Series Detroit is a great platform, but it is not a light duty engine. You might as well be comparing the 5.9 Cummins to a DT466.
@Faolan161
@Faolan161 6 ай бұрын
Given what I put my 5.9 and 6.7 through, I can't imagine 8 of them blowing up... my 5.9 maxed out at 590/1200 on dyno, and I ran it for 160k mi at 550 horse, more in the 6.7. granted I don't use all that every running moment, but if you keep them under 200° F and the right oil (imperative), they last.
@Trump985
@Trump985 6 ай бұрын
@@Faolan161 All I can tell you is these were stock factory new complete engines (oil pan to air filter). They ran 15w-40 Shell Rotella, got weekly oil changes, ran 24hours a day 7 days a week half the year and they lasted about 6-8 months before either oil consumption became excessive, or they had a major failure (like a rod through the side of the block). We just replaced them with a brand new Cummins complete engine when they failed. I’m not saying they are bad engines just that they don’t last anywhere as long as other engines in the 250 HP class. As for what the operators did to these things I couldn’t tell you. Most of these guys are animals so they certainly didn’t treat them nicely. However the same animals ran the other boat (with the Detroits) on the same jobs, moving the same dump scows and that didn’t eat anywhere near as many engines. It’s the only apples to apples comparison I can make, we run Cats, Cummins, Detroits, EMDs, John Deeres, and even a few Kubotas. However they are not running in the same equipment doing the same job and being used by the same people. The two little push boats were identical and in my opinion a fair comparison. I could say the John Deere 4045s are the best small engines because on my gensets they seem to go about 45,000 hours between overhauls. However this wouldn’t be a fair comparison as they are the only ones powering this type of genset. Even comparing them to the Kubotas of the portable gensets wouldn’t be fair.
@Faolan161
@Faolan161 6 ай бұрын
@@Trump985 Something's gotta be wrong in there to blow up that many Cummins engines. I run a 4 cyl Cummins 4.5l in a skid steer as hard as I can, and the oil even stays clean at 500-700 hrs between oil changes, 4000 it's on it now. That's tougher than the boat work. Something's off, Cummins handle massive workloads just like yours all around the world. Of course, I'm the kind of guy who looks for the root cause of breakage so I can repair or redesign with proper parts so it doesn't melt itself down... I hope you've found a better solution, that gets expensive fast.
@dozerboyd8784
@dozerboyd8784 5 ай бұрын
​​@@Faolan161 how much do you know about boats? There are not many if any land vehicle that you can compare to a boat in the amount of abuse it takes.
@mikegillam1000
@mikegillam1000 6 ай бұрын
Diesels aren’t really my thing, but they’ve been on the fringe of my interest for a while now. This was an entertaining entry into the subject. Great video style. It’s also cool to see something other than a LS go into the service truck. You got yourself a new subscriber!
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the support 👍
@ed4709
@ed4709 6 ай бұрын
😂😂 that noise at 18:51 🌈💅🏼
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
It hurt and I was trying to cope with the pain 😂
@cesarlaso356
@cesarlaso356 4 ай бұрын
You make great content. Very accurate and well thought out🤜🏼🤛🏼🍿
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍
@levitheonlylevi2047
@levitheonlylevi2047 6 ай бұрын
Im down to 20 Cummins and can hardly sleep at night... wtb: more 12V Cummins Turbo Diesels... hmu
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
You have problems 😂
@levitheonlylevi2047
@levitheonlylevi2047 6 ай бұрын
​@@freedomworx don't we all
@BeanPapi69
@BeanPapi69 4 ай бұрын
Yes I’m all here for the build had a 99 v8 was gonna diesel swap but had to sell since I was in the military but in the process of getting out now and can’t wait to build this bad boy and better yet with you helping me. 👀
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, swapping is usually a losing game. Just buy one that already has a diesel in it 👍
@CadorSeeliger
@CadorSeeliger 6 ай бұрын
Power driven has kits for more that 400hp for 800$.... Junkyard motor might be 2500$ here in Oklahoma.. this fella is crazy..
@CadorSeeliger
@CadorSeeliger 6 ай бұрын
600 -650 HP kit is less than 2k$..
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
You keep telling yourself that. You think I just like to spend money that I don’t need to? I’m trying to help you out. You can learn from it, or you can get yourself into something you can’t afford to finish.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
@CadorSeeliger I literally made this video for people like you. You have no idea what it actually takes to make those numbers and keep the engine alive.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
PDD 650HP trans is $6k. So there’s that. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@zacharymorris9917
@zacharymorris9917 6 ай бұрын
Cumminstards strike again.
@cupwalker24.7
@cupwalker24.7 4 ай бұрын
Make millions with a 12 valve every year still ... But In first or second gear and Almost at idol Behind Drilling Rigs. Alot of drilling rigs came with 12 valves not just my trucks so that makes me happy ....I hear that sound in my Dreams.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 4 ай бұрын
It's a workhorse, no doubt 👍
@808bigisland
@808bigisland 2 ай бұрын
Had a Cummins 6BTA in my tunaboat. Three versions: ca 180shp for continous duty, 230shp for medium duty and 300hp for light duty use. Best case is 2400 rpm to get planing and then reduce rpm to 1300-1500. Then its no smoke, relatively quiet and fuel economy is really great.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 ай бұрын
They are a great power plant, I’m not disputing that at all. I have one that makes 1000HP to the tire 🤓
@808bigisland
@808bigisland 2 ай бұрын
@ very nice! 1000hp - sound expensive. On a single engine boat on the Pacific - mine did ca 250 - reliability is a life saver. So it’s mostly 7kts at 1200 rpm and only when crossing a 10f bar the motor gets pushed a little above 2500.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 ай бұрын
@808bigisland yeah, you definitely need to keep the power lower to keep them reliable. The most powerful OEM version of the engine ever produced was a 370HP Marine Engine. But you’d likely find that power level engine in a Sportfish boat, not a working man’s boat 👍
@808bigisland
@808bigisland 2 ай бұрын
@ The 370 is an ok engine but then you need two. This setup more than triples cost, operating cost, maintenance, fuel and shortens mtbf considerably vs a 200hp BTA single. 10000hx1.5g or 5000hx5gal before overhaul.
@D.Ambrose
@D.Ambrose 6 күн бұрын
24:05 harbor freight just released some new chisels. I do a bunch of manual woodworking and chisels are a big part of that. These new ones are carbide and they are so immaculately machined. I swear these mf’s are aircraft quality. It’s pretty standard practice in this field to buy something and have to hone it to level yourself, but these things are so straight and well machined that I kept one to use as a straight edge. Took the handle off and cut it down at the tang, got a perfect 1/4”x1/4” striker now. They’re $7. I use them as scrapers, chisels, screw drivers, you name it. I’ve never abused blades like this in my life and a quick hone and they are chopping again
@WyattFXDB
@WyattFXDB Ай бұрын
I started running royal purple and the clack is gone. Runs soooo smooth. And cold starts are much smoother
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Ай бұрын
But what does it taste like?
@WyattFXDB
@WyattFXDB Ай бұрын
@ money. It ain’t cheap. Although my fuel mileage has improved by 1.5mpg after a year of running it.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Ай бұрын
@WyattFXDB my 5.9 Common Rail burns so much oil, that I have to factor it into the fuel economy calculation 😂
@jesusrieger2595
@jesusrieger2595 2 ай бұрын
NV5600 Trans ... if you already have one installed previously, That will change the end price. This is a great video though. Hilarious and educational.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, it’s certainly cheaper if you are running a manual gearbox.
@Cordell-
@Cordell- 6 ай бұрын
Aaand found my new favorite channel. Instant subscribe
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
I appreciate the support 👍
@KamikazeBRockets
@KamikazeBRockets 2 ай бұрын
You should have waaaay more subscribers, awesome content!
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate it 👍. We’ll get there 😎
@logan__4799
@logan__4799 5 ай бұрын
“Need a bigger shop, you guys need to subscribe “ I feel you brother. This is the first video of yours I’ve seen but I subbed because I felt that lmao
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
I appreciate the support 😎👍
@The13familiesownyou.
@The13familiesownyou. Ай бұрын
I have two 12 valves. 89 & 97 and they both fire on the first hit. 89 is my commuter averaging 21mpg with at least one or two turnovers but most likely three of the 100,000 mile clock. 97 averages 18mpg when not towing and I got near 21mpg one time. It's a workhorse. The engine you rabbit holed into looked like it had sludge from lack of oil changes and/or short drives not burning off the condensation formed from the previous cool down. That may have caused the main bearing ,rust and other issues. Any truck engine driven like that would exhibit some if not many or all of the same issues you found. There have been many great diesel engines manufactured, Ford 6.0 excepted from what I understand, that served many a users sitting behind or above them. Engineering flaws aside, of all diesels the 6bt is probably the best option for a SHTF EMP like you noted. Engines are like guns and teeth. take care of them and they'll last you a long time. Nonetheless an interesting and educational video.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, I’m glad you enjoyed it 👍
@totensiebush
@totensiebush 6 ай бұрын
With minimal diesel knowledge from me... what's your opinion on P pump 24V? and re engine swaps, 4BT are more popular in some cases, to at least slightly reduce weight. Turns out they even make a 16V 4BT too but they're hens teeth.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with a P-Pump 24V or a 4BT. The downside to a 4BT is just that they are expensive. Much more so than a 6BT.
@outfitsgarage88
@outfitsgarage88 6 ай бұрын
I like the Premiers gives an opportunity to talk with the creator
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
Yeah buddy 👍
@stravis3269
@stravis3269 5 ай бұрын
I love your work and to the point on your video. Love it man
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching 👍
@Bloodbain88
@Bloodbain88 5 ай бұрын
Loved the video. The 12 valve is my favorite engine by a mile. I pulled one out of a ford box truck to swap into my dually square body. Timing cover plaque states 230HP @2200rpm and 605ft lbs of torque @1400rpm. It moves the truck along pretty nice, although I've always wanted to turn it up. But so far I've left it alone because I absolutely need that stock, million mile reliablity. But it's tempting...
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
You'll never drive it a million miles anyway. Turn it up 😎
@joshgodwin6288
@joshgodwin6288 2 ай бұрын
Pro mechanic here. I love my carbide scrapers. They can be used on aluminum with a careful touch and the proper technique. I use my scrapers so much I dull them on occasion. Get a diamond field sharpener. Sharpen by holding each of the three sides flat against the sharpener. I like to use heavy pressure because of the hardness of carbide. Once you get the cutting edges sharp, run each edge across the fine side of the sharpener at a 45 degree angle with very light pressure to remove the bur.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 ай бұрын
I'm only a KZbin Mechanic, doubt I'll ever use them enough to dull them. But thanks for the tip 👍
@devmeistersuperprecision4155
@devmeistersuperprecision4155 Ай бұрын
The cross hatch serves one purpose. The three rings need the gap at about 120 degrees so gaps never line up. The cross hatch prevents rings from rotating and gaps lining up.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Ай бұрын
That’s absolutely not what the crosshatch does. The purpose of the crosshatch is to hold oil. That oil lubricate and forms the seal between the rings and the cylinder wall. Piston rings absolutely rotate during engine operation, that’s what they are designed to do. The rotation keeps the ring grooves clean. Those rings will randomly line up throughout the life of the engine, thousands of times. And you’ll never even notice it. You can install those rings all perfectly lined up, run the engine for a minute and tear it back down, and they will all be in A different orientation. Scientists actually studied this in the 1940s using radioactive tracers in the piston rings, so they could monitor the radial movement while the engine was running. The rings averaged about 3rpm of rotation. The only exception to this is piston rings in 2-stroke engines that are pinned in place, so that the ring grooves don’t line up with the intake and/or exhaust ports in the cylinder walls.
@devmeistersuperprecision4155
@devmeistersuperprecision4155 Ай бұрын
@ while the cross hatch does hold oil a bit similar to moon flaking on machine ways, the clearance between piston and bore is much greater than a machine way. I stand behind what I said. I learned this from Cummins!!! I have rebuilt several Cummins. Included are machined brass oil injector nozzles replacing the plastic ones. Machined custom mag bronze valve guides of own design. Three angle head grinds. Machined billet covers and front gear cases. My involvement with the 5.9 can be considered misspent youth. I have routinely hit 1 million miles on hot shot engines. I must respectfully disagree let’s leave it at that.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Ай бұрын
@ you are disagreeing with every automotive engineering text ever written. You might rebuild them, but you certainly don’t understand hydrodynamic engine lubrication. The oil film between the piston rings and cylinder walls is only a few microns in operation. You need to watch my video on bypass filtration, see if you still disagree with me and every other degreed engineer that’s ever been an engineer at an engine manufacturing facility 🤷🏻‍♂️Never Change Oil Again: BYPASS OIL FILTER #oilchange #oilfilter #engineoil kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4G7pHZ9YqhggLs
@devmeistersuperprecision4155
@devmeistersuperprecision4155 Ай бұрын
@ I am retired now. But I spent my life as an aerospace engineer and machinist. My engine experience transcends everything from coffin nosed Stanley steam cars through gas engines to diesels. My shop includes a variety of machines some of which are steam powered. In stationary steam, we don’t cross hatch. Here we use heavy duty cast iron rings and no oil ring. Lubrication is thru inline Detroit drip oilers with steam oil. I was fortunate to be able to rip into a Rolls Merlin. The original exhaust guides were phosphor bronze and later Be alloy. NASCAR uses 10% plus mag bronze. My Cummins 5.9 heads are the only ones using full mag bronze guides modeled after the Merlin guides. If you go thru the actual Cummins service manuels published by Cummins, you will find the ring install procedures which outline this. You will also find a reference to this in some of the early Perkins Manuel’s out of Coventry England. BYW: I also machine these blocks old school. I use a 1930s Giddings and Lewis boring mill. A mill that weighs over 10,000 pounds. Not as accurate as a SIP hydroptic but way more accurate than a portable boring jig. I also line bore every block crank journals. I don’t like stretch bolts. I use ARPs in the low end. As the torques are different, I line bore with the ARPs to insure any elongation changes due to the ARPs higher torques are addressed.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Ай бұрын
@devmeistersuperprecision4155 brother, I dont care how much experience you have. You simply don’t know what you are talking about when it comes to cylinder finish and piston rings. So enjoy misunderstanding the topic 🤷🏻‍♂️. You made a comment on my channel with misinformation, I tried to correct you, and you want to remain wrong. That’s not what I’m about. I’m about reducing ignorance, not spreading it. You reference is “my experience” and mine is actual engineering text and SAE Technical Papers.
@rickypoindexter9505
@rickypoindexter9505 2 ай бұрын
You got a killer channel bro - don't understand how you only got 50k subs!
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate it brother. I think I’m just not putting out content fast enough. I might just have to give up sleep 😂
@CTD2500
@CTD2500 6 ай бұрын
That Isky tool is pretty neat. I did the same thing with my 12 valve, except I did it in the truck. Had to make shorter handles for it because the original handles hit the firewall.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
That sounds like a pain!! I was very surprised at how many calories it burned 😂
@freebird7284
@freebird7284 3 ай бұрын
looks like i'm keepin' my money pit, great edits, new sub ridin' this roller coaster!
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 3 ай бұрын
I appreciate the support 👍
@davidciesielski8251
@davidciesielski8251 6 ай бұрын
WOW! Thanks I really enjoyed you video. I also found out I was real smart in 06 to buy my lbz truck....lol
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
My daily is an LBZ 😉
@MrMan5014
@MrMan5014 6 ай бұрын
I had a Case 2096 with the 5.9 Cummins…the engine was phenomenal!…the tractor not so much…Case put them in most of their construction equipment that was 20 ton and under…they had them in their Maxxum 5100 and 5200 series…super engines!..
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
Yep. It was definitely the standard in it's day 👍
@sambrose1
@sambrose1 2 ай бұрын
Question could you use a pull dowel? Knock out the original replace with a pull dowel bolt up cover torque and pull out the dowel once its done its alignment job.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 ай бұрын
I don't know. I'd put use the $9 tab if it were me.
@lockgessner
@lockgessner 5 ай бұрын
The problem with that isky tool is the cutter geometry is dumb, you really need to grind a touch of relief on the face of the cutter to make it work
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
I didn’t have any trouble with it cutting. But the operator was a little short on stamina 😂
@Shenkosky
@Shenkosky 6 күн бұрын
Better yet my 2000 F350 V10 6.8l 2 Valve 390hp 450tq stock with the optional Dana 80 with 4:30 gears unloaded she goes 0 to 60 mph in just over 6 seconds. In 25 years I have only replaced the stock oil cooler leaking oil into coolant. If 11.6mpg is the problem remember gas is cheap compared to never working on your truck in over 25 years and a brand new Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi towing the same 35 foot camper averages 6.7mpg 💀 So yeah for a gas motor its still extremely efficient while towing more so than any gas motor since.
@CrazyForCooCooPuffs
@CrazyForCooCooPuffs 5 ай бұрын
Good video, I've spent 15k+ on just making sure my 12 valve runs good for another 30 years. It was bone stock, probably didnt need to mess with it, if you ever driven a stock p7100 you know the struggles. Banks twin ram, ex manifold, afc live, 58mm turbo, exhaust brake, intercooler, headjob, banks intake, ARP studs, straight pipe, gauges, ETC. Its ready for the end times but it probably makes 250-3500 hp for ever.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, they are pretty anemic when stock. Anyone says they should be left stock either hasn't ridden in one, or has no soul 😂
@benighted09
@benighted09 4 ай бұрын
I just want to do 65-70MPH up a hill a max GVWR(truck camper). I'm stuck at 55MPH. How much HP do I need? I have the original rebuilt automatic transmission.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 4 ай бұрын
Really depends on the truck you have. We are talking max HP numbers. Two trucks can have identical max HP numbers but not pull a hill the same. Gearing, number of gears in the transmission, etc. will make a huge difference. As will the elevation you are operating at.
@travis1118
@travis1118 5 ай бұрын
We need an update on the bypass oil filter please good sir!!
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
I've got 8,500 miles on the oil. Going to run an analysis and do a follow-up at 10,000 miles.
@pacman407
@pacman407 4 ай бұрын
Amen to the ball hone, brother! I've used both, prefer the ball hone, and had the same good results with both. Keep on building. Do some small Toyota forklift diesel converted to work in a truck diesel stuff...... Sub'd. I like your style.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 4 ай бұрын
Didn’t know diesel Toyota Forklift engines were a think 🧐
@pacman407
@pacman407 4 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx Yes sir. Mostly 4-cylinder stuff with smaller pump and injectors since they're set for maximum =torque RPM. Nissan has diesel forklift engines as well. There are Deutz diesel engines, baby Cummins, and others in ground service equipment. The overland Expedition can have a Toyota overland build with a diesel engine built from a forklift. Will this work? I don't know, but a build like this would suit your style of lets go for it. Forklifts and ground service equipment like Tugs have these mechanical diesels. I don't know, something to think about when you wonder why you contemplate other things.
@JAleksandr
@JAleksandr 2 ай бұрын
I worked for an outfit that had several. Due to the amount of annual miles (200k) on each of our trucks we got to start testing the 6 sp’s two years before public availability (lots of rules, paperwork and tranny swaps for inspections but it was cool.). But I know three of the trucks were million milers before they got sold.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 ай бұрын
How in the hell you put 200K on a truck in a year? That's 550 miles a day, every day, including Christmas 🥴
@JAleksandr
@JAleksandr 2 ай бұрын
@ you have Weldon (an older Tx manufacturing company) sleepers on them and running hotshot teams over the lower 48 states… we were Colorado based-each truck would make an run East coast run of about 7 days avg of 1k per day and be home for a couple days then a west coast run of about 5 days then home. I own a couple semi’s now and can’t believe I ran that long doing team work in such a small space… I can barely do solo work in a sleeper many times larger than what those trucks had…
@AndrewBrowner
@AndrewBrowner 5 ай бұрын
so did dynamite diesel cover the lost injectors since they disappeared during return shipping? was there a physical hole in the box or were they simply never put in the box? i feel like we need more info on this story
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
They actually disappeared on the way to DDP. They called me and asked why I sent an empty box 😂. USPS at its finest…
@thomaslockley945
@thomaslockley945 6 ай бұрын
Great video n information can't wait to see part 2
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍
@randr10
@randr10 5 ай бұрын
Lisle makes a version of the old Sunnen style hone and they sell it for less than a couple hundred bucks. If your bore is still within size spec for your current pistons and you just want to true it back up you can get it down to tenths of taper with one, and if there's any oval shape to your bores it'll make them round again too. They're supposed to go in a machine to get the perfect crosshatch, but you can do just fine putting it into a hand drill. I did the cylinders on my tractor engine because they needed re-sleeving and I've had zero issues with oil consumption, so I know the crosshatch turned out fine. If you get under half a thou taper you can spin it to 8 grand no problem. Since this is a diesel at 4 grand, you'll have zero issues with that 1 thou of taper and it would be overkill trying to exceed it. You know it's not out of round by more than that either, which is also fine. You'll probably distort the cylinders more than that torquing down the head.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
I’d never seen that Lisle hone until you mentioned it. Looks like a good unit 👍
@simpledj509chromo7
@simpledj509chromo7 2 ай бұрын
Now I need $2000 more in tools before I can consider putting a bigger turbo on my truck. I'll get there eventually. She runs good now and it's probably for the best. The NV4500 is going to blow someday. It'd be nice to have a ZF-6, adapter plate, and driveshafts when it does let go. The dream is coming up with ten grand in the next few years, but it would be wild if I could accomplish it. I managed $2000 for my Subi and $3750 for my shipping container. Adding power to my truck at this point is a want, not a need, but god dammit do I want it.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 ай бұрын
The cheapest way to make big power is to buy a truck someone else has already sunk all of their own money into 😉. "Built Not Bought" is for people that like to waste their money to save their pride 😉
@Skunkapeliberationunion1312
@Skunkapeliberationunion1312 3 ай бұрын
I need to pull a 12 valve out of a totalled 1991.5 first gen to put into long term storage. (Neighbors called the county code enforcement on me even though I had the truck hidden out back with a car cover on it) anyways. I had the truck towed to a buddy's place, he's buying the rest of the truck as a parts truck. Any advice for transportation and storage would be appreciated.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 3 ай бұрын
Idk man. Mine was already on an over built stand when I bought it. Maybe pull the turbo and exhaust off and lay it on its side on some tires.
@Skunkapeliberationunion1312
@Skunkapeliberationunion1312 3 ай бұрын
@freedomworx think I've got a plan. Gonna use a heavy duty pallet, throw some wheels on it, and add some 4x4s for support.
@simpledj509chromo7
@simpledj509chromo7 2 ай бұрын
I'll just say my old 12v did 373hp with pump mods, 5x.012 VCO injectors from Ducky Fuel Injection, and a 5k gov kit at 16.5 degrees of timing. It did 345/875 before the injectors and a little more tuning. I tried AFC live but the air leaks made me take it out and go back to standard tuning. I couldn't get a torque number on the dyno day when it ran 373 because they had so many trucks to get on the dyno. I don't let anyone who doesn't know what they are doing drive my truck. I need more air, but that means head studs. I'll get around to it but the truck has been reliable for 90k and 14 years now. I'll run it as is and when I have money I'll stud it. Beehive valve springs will follow and then turbo (s). I want towing compounds but money is hard to come by these days.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 ай бұрын
That’s still enough power to have fun with. My 7.3L Excursion makes right at 500/1100 to the tire, but it also weighs over 10,000lbs. It’s fun, but definitely not as far out fun as it would be in a truck that’s a ton lighter. I actually picked up another hot rod with a 12 Valve in it. Stay tuned, pretty sure you’ll like it 😉
@simpledj509chromo7
@simpledj509chromo7 2 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx Thanks for the reply man. My truck is plenty of fun to drive and almost has 300k now. That's a damn heavy Excursion! I think I know what's been done to it so I won't ask. But that's cool. Can't wait to see what you come up with. Money is tight a lot of the time so seeing people like you build cool shit is a treat.
@968porsche9
@968porsche9 6 ай бұрын
I like that engine stand. Can you give some info?
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
I hate it. If you're close to Atlanta I'll make you a good deal on it 😂
@968porsche9
@968porsche9 6 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx No. Sorry. From Albany, but live a bit further.
@leroy8794
@leroy8794 2 ай бұрын
Number 1 main being scored like that makes me think that bad dampner was causing some serious vibration
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 ай бұрын
It's possible.
@crandonborth
@crandonborth 2 ай бұрын
“I didn’t find it… it found me…” I’m totally not stealing that line the next time I’m my GF asks what I bought off FB marketplace. 😂
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 ай бұрын
Steal away homie 😉
@Jjvblack88
@Jjvblack88 5 ай бұрын
Just found your channel today, good stuff.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy it 👍
@memadmax69
@memadmax69 8 күн бұрын
The parts price for this motor and prices for diesels in general are so batshit crazy that I went out of my way to avoid this motor and stuffed a V10 into my 96 ram instead....
@phillhuddleston9445
@phillhuddleston9445 5 ай бұрын
Hones are really meant to make a bore round and take the taper out while taking them to size as well and to give them a good finish, that is actually a degalzer but what ever😶
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
Let me ask you this, why do machine shops use a hone after they bore a cylinder? Why not just bore the cylinder and send it out the door? I mean, it’s already straight and true, right??? There are very few instances where a machine shop will use a hone to true up a cylinder. They will bore the cylinder to true it up, and then use a hone to achieve the proper surface finish, just like I said 🥱
@TTURBOVOLVO
@TTURBOVOLVO 2 ай бұрын
What other engines would you recommend? I have a big box truck which needs a new engine, i want a fully mechanical diesel with plenty of torque
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 ай бұрын
Then you probably want a 12 Valve 🤓
@oscarbear7498
@oscarbear7498 4 ай бұрын
Very good video. Im currently on my journey to a big diesel truck. My dad has a 7.3 powerstroke 1997 he likes, the truck looks petty cool. I myself starting fresh am looking for a diesel truck to get into and im stuck between 12v or a 7.3. Starting fresh before buying books and spending hours and hours researching, which do you think is best to jump into, my goals are to have a very reliable truck to work around the farm( horse trail, hauling a 2 ton mini escavator), keep kinda like a classic, and daily driver.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, whichever one you like the most. And buy one that someone else has already spent money on😎. Let someone else spend the money on tuning, exhaust, trans, etc.
@MikeSteuerwald
@MikeSteuerwald 3 ай бұрын
i largely agree with your conclusions, dude. fun video to watch and learn from. im into 12v's b/c im an engine swap guy. Would be curious to see your chart if you set the purchase price of the trucks/engine's to zero in your f(x).
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 3 ай бұрын
If the purchase price was omitted, an L5P Duramax or Later 6.7 Powerstroke would be the only ious choice.
@MikeSteuerwald
@MikeSteuerwald 3 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx hahaha. of course....
@zenrider_9622
@zenrider_9622 5 ай бұрын
Bought my first cummins truck, 97 12v, has arp heads, and sure fire ring head, and new holset hx35, i dont know what size injectors are on it but was told they aren't stock so woohooo, I'm very happy with it. Paid 6200 bucks for it 5 speed manual. I just needed a good farm truck so I probably won't do anything to it, has plenty of get up and go for my needs. But watching this video and learning about the killer dowel pin, I will most definitely look into any aftermarket stuff that might fix that, so if anyone has any suggestions please let me know.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, you need to make sure the KDP gets addressed. You've probably got leaks on the front end that need to be addressed anyway while you have it apart. 😉
@deanvav7820
@deanvav7820 3 ай бұрын
A ball pein hammer or a hammer and punch is plenty good enough to bang up the hole in the cover so that the dowel pin can't pass through easily....then check the case bolts, they can come loose too and get into places they should not be.....
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 3 ай бұрын
It might be enough, but it won’t help most people at night.
@nicjgoss7069
@nicjgoss7069 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been looking into doing a similar build, why did you go with the 12v rather than the 24v? From what I’ve gathered for the same price you can get more hp.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 ай бұрын
Cost, simplicity, 53 Block. Nothing wrong with a P-Pump 24v, it just costs more.
@Buain-75
@Buain-75 6 күн бұрын
The 7.3l IDIs were left out 😢 all mechanical too.
@davidgates1122
@davidgates1122 3 ай бұрын
The stock 6.0 PSD is 325 HP. Fix the oil coiler, fuel pressure regulator and don't tune them for more HP and they will be OK. But that is going to be about 4-5 K in parts alone.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 3 ай бұрын
Yep. They are pretty good engines after you throw $10k at them 😉
@dondakota920
@dondakota920 4 ай бұрын
My 53 Ford F600 4x4 and My RV both have 12 valve Cummins. They run on anything except gasoline and i don't do crazy things with them so hoping for a million miles.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 4 ай бұрын
I do crazy stuff with my 12 valves. I hope they last 10 thousand miles😂😉
@Captain-Awesome
@Captain-Awesome 5 ай бұрын
Why didn’t the 24 valve 5.9 work its way into the chart?
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
No reason. Just wanted to keep the list manageable.
@Captain-Awesome
@Captain-Awesome 5 ай бұрын
@@freedomworx gotcha
@jrburger95
@jrburger95 4 ай бұрын
This may sound stupid but how does the 6.5 Detroit stack up in that comparison chart. I hear mixed opinions on this engine some saying it's the worst thing ever and some saying it's not bad if you maintain it. There are a few people with them pushing the 500 HP mark but it's not super common but since that engine was being sold against the 5.9 at the time I do wonder how it stacks up if at all.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 4 ай бұрын
No comparison honestly. They are finicky and underpowered. You can flog a 12 valve and abuse it, and it’ll still pull harder and longer, by a huge margin.
@RiggyRonnie
@RiggyRonnie 5 ай бұрын
90% of 12 valves manufactured are still running, the trucks might have rotted away but the engines live on in other trucks and equipment
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 5 ай бұрын
Still pumping out 160 crank horsepower 30 years later 😉. Doesn’t sound so impressive when I put it like that. My 54 year old Jeep Dauntless 225 V6 is still pumping out 160HP… 54 years later 😎
@stevefortune4315
@stevefortune4315 6 ай бұрын
Love your videos and your sens of humor. I have inherited my late fathers 2002 2500 sport with the 24 valve vp44 he already had it tuned and tickled up to about 450 hp not sure i believe it.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
You can make a good bit of power on a VP44. Just make sure it’s got a good lift pump feeding it 👍
@benmisiewicz3217
@benmisiewicz3217 20 күн бұрын
I wish you would of mentioned the dt series from navistar. There bulletproof and cheap. There also wet sleeved unlike the 6bt cummins
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 20 күн бұрын
I was just sticking to engines found in light duty trucks. But the DTs are awesome. 😎
@TheRitchieLeeShow
@TheRitchieLeeShow 6 ай бұрын
Cool waiting on next part😊
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 6 ай бұрын
Already in the works 👍
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