Why DIESELS Hold More Oil
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@tymorrow4349
@tymorrow4349 Сағат бұрын
Auto tech here🙋‍♂️ I’d have to say I don’t care to pour oil into filters before installing. I do put oil around the seal… but to me it’s a waste of time. The car was just running, therefore all the components are lubricated. It doesn’t make a difference the few extra seconds it takes for the oil filter to fill up. The filter has to be pressurized with the pump before it feeds the system anyway. You’re saving like a second of the engine running “dry”. Filling it is pointless. However I do take the precaution on an engine I’ve just built. Every second matters on first start.
@rafaeltavares6928
@rafaeltavares6928 6 сағат бұрын
"American useless" is the funniest thing ever
@keebstar30
@keebstar30 6 сағат бұрын
One word: Diesel
@yamaguy
@yamaguy 11 сағат бұрын
With good glow plugs and batteries mine will start below 0* f no issue.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 сағат бұрын
I will never know if mine will start at 0F. I’m allergic to cold 😂
@rasanchezd
@rasanchezd 12 сағат бұрын
You are pouring the oil the wrong way. I just wanted to let you know in case you didn't notice. 🤣
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 10 сағат бұрын
I hate you 😂
@AlexeyAbleyev
@AlexeyAbleyev 13 сағат бұрын
I do flush only when I buy car afterr stupid user who changes oil like it is writtten in manual. 20000km. So, I usualy do 2-3 short change run with or without flushing.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 9 сағат бұрын
Have you ever actually performed a used oil analysis after running the oil the manufacturer recommended oil change interval? Or are you just making assumptions and repeating what other people say? Because I have run used oil samples in multiple vehicles I’ve owned (VW TDI, 5.9 Common Rail Cummins, multiple 7.3L Powerstrokes, and an LBZ Duramax) at the recommended 10,000 mile interval on most, and 10,000 miles was always an extremely conservative oil change interval. They all had over 300,000 miles on them when I sold them, or I still own them, and they all ran/run like a top. Unless you actually test the oil, you really don’t know what the oil change interval should be, and you certainly shouldn’t be calling someone stupid for following the manufacturers recommendations. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@brianjohnson1999
@brianjohnson1999 15 сағат бұрын
Look in fill area with a bore scope before and after
@Attaccabottoni
@Attaccabottoni 17 сағат бұрын
You cant run the liqui moly through then do the sea foam after and then say the sea foam is better 😂
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 17 сағат бұрын
I don’t recall stating that either was better, or that either actually did anything. That’s sorta the point of the video 😉
@asherdie
@asherdie 19 сағат бұрын
So how does one fill a filter that is upsidedown or sideways? They don't, because its not necessary.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 19 сағат бұрын
Never said it was necessary…never have. But if I thought it was, I’d turn the vehicle upside down like a real man 💪🏼😉
@marktombazian6490
@marktombazian6490 19 сағат бұрын
When ya got nothing else to do, mess around with stuff just to say.. yeah, been working on the truck...oil tests... want pizza ya'll?
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 19 сағат бұрын
English?
@marktombazian6490
@marktombazian6490 19 сағат бұрын
@freedomworx ya don't hang out with blue collar wrenchers? Ok, broaden your social networking circles..
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 19 сағат бұрын
I hang out with blue collar craft workers at nuclear power plants. Broaden your social networking circles 🤷🏻‍♂️
@marktombazian6490
@marktombazian6490 16 сағат бұрын
@freedomworx ok...good for you...
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 16 сағат бұрын
@marktombazian6490 I know
@evanott3490
@evanott3490 21 сағат бұрын
The real reality is only a certain percentage of your oil is filtered at once, your motor isn’t “starved” on the first start if you don’t have the filter pre filled. There’s mostly a misconception about how oil filtering systems actually work and where your oil pump pulls from etc. I stopped pre filling filters years ago. It’s not like a bad practice at all, it’s just not necessary
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 21 сағат бұрын
It’s called a full flow filter for a reason brother. All of the oil goes through the filter before it enters the oil galley. The only exception is during extreme cold starts, high rpm, or if the filter is extremely dirty, or a combination of those scenarios, when the bypass inside the filter opens. That’s reality. Show me literature or a flow diagram that shows otherwise 🤷🏻‍♂️
@evanott3490
@evanott3490 21 сағат бұрын
@@freedomworx In fairness. The guy I was talking to last time about this was an airplane mechanic. Car Motors very well may have a different system. even still, i definitely havnt prefilled filters in years, and alot of the fleet i maintain has upwards of 200k miles, still dropping clean oil samples. mix of diesels and gas. I think its incredibly likely that theres enough oil in the oil valleys of cylinder heads to splash and keep everything lubricated enough until the oil pump catches up. i dont have literature about this ofc. but i have pulled open motors and theres oil in the heads of a motor that has been sitting. oil pumps are also pretty aggressive, so its very likely that 2 rotations in (before most motors even fire) its already built up oil pressure
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 21 сағат бұрын
@evanott3490 I’m not arguing that you need to pre-fill the filter. I’ve never stated that you should. I was simply responding to a commenter. I actually just completed a very extensive test on the matter for an upcoming video.
@Madmel999Nobody
@Madmel999Nobody 21 сағат бұрын
You don't even know how to pore oil
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 21 сағат бұрын
“Pour” 🤡
@T_Rey1799-ud5ll
@T_Rey1799-ud5ll Күн бұрын
You only prefill diesels.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Күн бұрын
Pretty much every diesel manufactures specifically forbid their techs from pre-filling filters 🤷🏻‍♂️
@briannewman5614
@briannewman5614 Күн бұрын
But,what about Jeeps and other styles of engine where the filter sits sideways, not vertical?
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Күн бұрын
It’s a Jeep, it’s designed to be flipped over. 😉
@95TeggyRS
@95TeggyRS Күн бұрын
That is in fact a piece of bacon thanks burt
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Күн бұрын
🥓🥓🥓
@GenMinion
@GenMinion Күн бұрын
This has the same context purpose as "You should shower before taking a bath so the bath water stays clean."
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Күн бұрын
I’m not sure you really understand what we are talking about here.
@GenMinion
@GenMinion Күн бұрын
@@freedomworx I've done MANY oil changes over the years. Aside from the ritual old oil to lube the new filter gasket, have I ever pre-filled the new filter. I've never even heard of such voodoo until this video. Yet you make it sound like things could go catastrophic if you don't. Now, for argument's sake, I notice you have fancy turbos, maybe that's a key factor in pre-filling the filter, since I know turbos rely HEAVILY on good oil supply.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Күн бұрын
If you are implying that I’m stating that oil fillers need to be pre-filled. You are mistaken. I’ve never said that. But many people swear by it. I’m just responding to a commenter. I personally don’t think it makes a bit of difference. But just to be sure, I just installed dozens of empty filters onto an engine and sent several oil samples to the lab for analysis. Stay tuned to the KZbin for that video. It’s gonna hurt some butts. 🤓
@GenMinion
@GenMinion Күн бұрын
@@freedomworx My apologies then. I was under the assumption you were telling people they needed to pre-fill their filters or something. Though the question remains, what dumbass thought they had to do that and spread it enough to catch traction?
@mattbrown5511
@mattbrown5511 Күн бұрын
Good demonstration. However, there a great many engines that are mounted horizontally or with the "fill" neck facing the ground.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Күн бұрын
Well I never said you need to pre-fill. Never have. 😉
@mattbrown5511
@mattbrown5511 Күн бұрын
@@freedomworx I never the engineers the manufacturers were very intelligent. Sorry if I sounded snarky ow sarcastic. That was not my intention. Merry Christmas and be well.
@Psycho_912
@Psycho_912 Күн бұрын
Uhm anybody else think that was Burt the machine
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Күн бұрын
Burnt Chrysler…The Actual Machine 😎
@robertgossas3711
@robertgossas3711 Күн бұрын
Having a LS2 engine i don't put oil in the filter because i spill oil everywhere. There is a feature on these cars that if you press the gaspedal all the way down whlile pushing the startbutton it will rotate the engine without starting it and when you have oil pressure you just start it normally. on all other engines without this feature i would fill the oil filter first to ensure oil pressure ASAP.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Күн бұрын
I just fill them halfway, pisses pretty much everyone off 🤓
@elgatorojo1
@elgatorojo1 Күн бұрын
I used STP engine flush on my 2011 Camry hoping to help the oil consumption problem that 4cyl engine is famous for. Was surprised to find it quieted down the also-famous cold start rattle.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Күн бұрын
You know that Toyota ran a campaign where they rebuilt those engines for free due to the excessive oil consumption?
@Casch44
@Casch44 Күн бұрын
Curious on the update of this video. Kind of makes me want to waste the money to put the bypass on my 2011 golf TDI just for the clean oils 😂
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Күн бұрын
The oil now has 13,200 miles on it. I have one analysis from 10,500, and am working on a follow-up video. Probably not worth your while on a TDI, considering the size of the sump. I ran a 2001 TDI 354k miles on 10K oil change intervals, still ran like a top when I sold it.
@markhammersmith8361
@markhammersmith8361 Күн бұрын
Love the video and your humor. It made the video that much better 😁 I'm currently subscribed. Just wondering if you could share the results of the oil analysis? Thanks and make more videos 😊
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Күн бұрын
Yes. I already have analysis results for 10,500 miles and should have a 15,000 pretty soon. I’m working on a follow-up video. Thanks for the support 👍
@Devo1987
@Devo1987 2 күн бұрын
That's not stock motor 😅😅
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Күн бұрын
That’s a stock oil filter assembly 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Devo1987
@Devo1987 Күн бұрын
Nope don't count an oil filter is just an oil filter nothing different there but the engine you have is not stock​@@freedomworx
@GoogleAsho-sl7cs
@GoogleAsho-sl7cs 2 күн бұрын
The oil turns black from the combustion... I watched this to see somthing but I realize dude doesn't know how engines work ... oil will always turn black especially after 10k miles wtf
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Күн бұрын
The fact that you think oil needs to be changed every 3k, max, shows how little you know about engine lubrication. Might want to watch this video before you start tooting your own horn and calling me ignorant 🤡. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4G7pHZ9YqhggLssi=l6zW0aZqB-rAESNY.
@GoogleAsho-sl7cs
@GoogleAsho-sl7cs Күн бұрын
@freedomworx you are brain damaged if you are arguing with Me over changing oil at 10k lmfao
@GoogleAsho-sl7cs
@GoogleAsho-sl7cs 2 күн бұрын
10k on oil is dumb as hell 3k max
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Күн бұрын
Dumb ass hell is thinking that some generic number, like 3k, is the proper oil change interval for every vehicle. Should someone with a Peterbilt change 12 gallons of oil every 3k miles? I’ve got multiple used oil analyses that show that 10k is more than adequate. How many used oil analyses have you performed on your vehicles???
@GoogleAsho-sl7cs
@GoogleAsho-sl7cs Күн бұрын
@@freedomworx that truck does not take 12 gallons of oil
@GoogleAsho-sl7cs
@GoogleAsho-sl7cs Күн бұрын
@@freedomworx you didn't send no oil samples in you retard stfu
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Күн бұрын
@GoogleAsho-sl7cs A Cummins X15 holds between 9.6 and 11.6 gallons of oil. Just another example of you having no idea what you are talking about 🤷🏻‍♂️
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Күн бұрын
I’ve got plenty of videos showing my used oil analyses. Why the hell would I perform an analysis on a sample with a hundred miles on it and engine flush in it to determine my oil change interval. You truly are retarded, aren’t you? F’n 🤡🤡😂
@CAIDMASTEROFPYRO
@CAIDMASTEROFPYRO 2 күн бұрын
Gotta crank it first to get the oil through the lines, There might be some engine where this is true but i kinda doubt it
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Күн бұрын
The lines on this engine feed the turbos from the filter assembly. They do not feed the filter.
@VV0RK
@VV0RK 2 күн бұрын
Someone got his hands on his wife's Cricut
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Күн бұрын
That’s my Cricut 😂
@irishsun22
@irishsun22 2 күн бұрын
I need an update on the "Days Since Pooped Pants".
@freedomworx
@freedomworx Күн бұрын
Should sharts restart the clock? Asking for a friend 👀
@theenglishtrucker1849
@theenglishtrucker1849 2 күн бұрын
You got a diesel, 2 seconds after an oil change, your oil is black. Its a diesel thing.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 күн бұрын
More like 3 seconds 😉
@jb_bmwrepairlyfe4704
@jb_bmwrepairlyfe4704 2 күн бұрын
Don’t listen to those $hit bags! They have no clue on how to work on cars they just like to comment to make themselves look stupid!
@tmurph247
@tmurph247 2 күн бұрын
Same with the oil and fuel filters for my cummins. Factory fleetguard Oil filter was $15 bucks for yrs, now $30. Fuel filters were $50 now over $100 for both. Thank god for Doc's diesel, oil filter and both fuel filters for a little over $60.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 күн бұрын
Bidenomics 🤓
@yafois988
@yafois988 2 күн бұрын
lurking’ under hood is a world of possibilities. Good info here to consider doing whatever it takes to keep things cool as possible. Trying to get up to speed on what it takes to make a 7.3 operate w more HP and keep it alive. Watched Daves Auto in Utah, speaks about those "gapless ring' / pistons what that does for these engines. Impressive to say the least.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 күн бұрын
Dave harps about a lot of stuff. $4,000 pistons that look like golf balls, gapless rings, and changing oil every 3K miles if you want him to warranty an engine e that he built. Hapless rings are good technology, but it’s really only something that comes into play when you are rebuilding an engine. Making power reliable power with a 7.3L isn’t hard, but it also isn’t cheap. I have a 7.3L Excursion that makes 500HP to the tires, and it was costly.
@yafois988
@yafois988 2 күн бұрын
@@freedomworx What got my attention was the gapless ring phenomena, help reduce EGT significantly as per his reporting. Which I’m understanding lower temps is a goal on making diesels live long & prosper. The explained science makes sense to me anyway what the byproduct and various mechanics does for the engine. Yet, most of us with engines factory pieces, the things we can do a LOT cheaper 'bolt-ons” sounds like the way to go actually. Better Exh system, the CTG programmer setup, Maybe the DPI setup, The Banks top end pieces, better Engine oil cooler and Trans cooler both. Heck of a lot cheaper then a Dave’s $15~20K engine for sure! 500 HP is way plenty honestly for most any needs.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 күн бұрын
@yafois988 I haven’t seen the video. But I’d be interested to see how gapless rings could reduce EGTs. I can certainly understand how they reduce blow-by and oil contamination. But EGTs… I’m not sure I follow that one. I have gapless seconds rings in a 1000HP 12 Valve, but I honestly don’t have any data to back up what benefit I’ve received from them. For a 7.3L though, just like any other engine, you really just need to build the engine for the application. If you are going to be towing with it, and don’t want to spend a ton of cash, the best bang for the buck is a set of Stage 1.5 injectors and tuning. That’s a 180/30 injector. Your factory fuel and HPOP are enough to feed them, and your factory transmission will generally survive. That’s good for over 400HP to the tires Anything after that gets very expensive.
@arwo1143
@arwo1143 2 күн бұрын
…..diesel oil will be black almost immediately A puny ass filter like that will NOT be able to work against that
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 күн бұрын
Not sure I would classify these filters as puny.
@ABC-td4rg
@ABC-td4rg 2 күн бұрын
If it's a "thing" for you, do clear flood procedure for a few seconds (in modern cars;gas pedal to the floor and crank) then check the filter, should have plenty of oil in it.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 күн бұрын
It’s not a thing for me. I’m just responding to a commenter 😉
@garviere
@garviere 3 күн бұрын
The point is that the most engine wear happens during cold start up before oil is pumped around the engine, a dry filter adds another “ glitch in the oils passage as it fills the filter before it continues around the engine causing more wear to your engine. This has been scientifically proven in other videos where the oils was analysed to check for metal particles in different scenarios and more metal particles were found after engine start ups on a dry filter.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 күн бұрын
If you are referring to the motor oil geeks video, he didn’t scientifically prove anything. He found an old analysis that supported his bias for filling filters. That wasn’t science. I actually just finished a test this week where I installed 50 oil filters on the same engine, with the same oil, and the same operating conditions, and sent in 3 samples for analysis. That’s what science looks like. We will see what actual science says about the topic. My guess is that it made absolutely zero difference. So stay tuned…for actual science. 🤓
@garviere
@garviere 3 күн бұрын
ok
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 күн бұрын
It does not depend on where the filter sits. Oil fill not gravity flow into the filter even if the filter is mounted 10 feet below the oil pan.
@garviere
@garviere 2 күн бұрын
the above comment was actually a mistake! Someone had shared it with me saying that he was showing how the filter on his engine fills with oil on fill up, but the person wasn't English and he had expressed himself incorrectly. I didn't watch the video but "knee jerked" a response based on what my frtiend had said, assuming that his filter filled with oil, which I was surprised at but could only think it was a rare case, hence my comment. Later when I had time to watch the video again and tease out the english from my Polish friend's message I realised my error but could not find my comment tyo erase or edit it. It would probably have been too late to edit anyway. But thanks for clarifying what I kind of already knew but had had doubt sewn in due to my friends poor English. Complicated innit?! NB If the comment has now gone then I have successfuly erased it as I don't want anyone to read it in isolation and be mislead.
@tyrannusspissamentum4423
@tyrannusspissamentum4423 3 күн бұрын
I only work in microns, cutting rotors all day.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 2 күн бұрын
Cutting rotors to the micron level? That's the most accurate rotor lathe I've ever heard of 🤓
@Bucketheadxx
@Bucketheadxx 3 күн бұрын
No, it wont stop oil changes. Sht video.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 3 күн бұрын
Hold my beer 🤷🏻‍♂️
@carloswheeldon2553
@carloswheeldon2553 3 күн бұрын
The filter will only be filled with oil if not pre filled by oil.pressure from the pump is needed which only happens when engine rotates.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 3 күн бұрын
Yep. Gravity won’t pre-fill an oil filter. And starting the engine to fill the filter isn’t pre-filling 😉
@duanestrickler6814
@duanestrickler6814 3 күн бұрын
Maybe a put on a Banks oil pan? They are supposed to improve drainage and get that last quart out when changing oil. Jus a thought, and no guarantee.
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 3 күн бұрын
Banks is just copying what PPE has been doing for many many years. And it’s not a big deal to have residual oil left in the engine. More than one Duramax out there with over a million miles on it, with a factory pan.
@sonnyserrano5522
@sonnyserrano5522 3 күн бұрын
Wtf, why did that work, I just replaced the steering wheel buttons and extended the wires so you could actually plug it in. All for it to just need a magical hand wipe
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 3 күн бұрын
Science…almost 🤓
@full---movie
@full---movie 3 күн бұрын
2007 Ford Ranger with manual trans can be flat towed, according to the booklet in the glove box. Just have it in neutral and make sure the wheel lock is disengaged,
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 3 күн бұрын
It’s possible with many transmissions. You just have to read the owners manual.
@sroberds640
@sroberds640 3 күн бұрын
Banks makes a new Pan for this exact reason that drains all of the oil out of the pan and sump
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 3 күн бұрын
PPE has been making one for many years. It’s not a big deal.
@Kro_man_tx
@Kro_man_tx 3 күн бұрын
I was only halfway listening and I thought he said it was an LGBT duramax. 😅😂 Maybe it is... it's always got a big burly man inside of it! 😅
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 3 күн бұрын
LBZGBTQ+ 🤓
@charleshines2142
@charleshines2142 3 күн бұрын
One thing that got Hyundai and Kia in a heap of trouble is abrasion form metal that they didn't clean out. Now really, I had no respect for Hyundai before that. It feels like they exist just to make the worst engines that ever existed. How much would it have cost them to simply remove that metal while the things are manufactured? To me that is just pure laziness on their part and a way of saying F the customer. That becomes even more obvious when you look at what all of those customers had to do to sue Hyundai (and Kia). They are so bad that the affected ones seize up on the road or catch fire! To me that is not just junk, it is just plain unsafe!!
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 3 күн бұрын
I've only blown up one motor in my life, and it was a Hyundai. It was my sister in laws Sonota. She had taken out kids in our minivan for the weekend, so we drove her car. It spun a rod bearing going down the interstate, out of the blue. I had checked the oil before we drove it, so I know it had plenty of oil. Turns out, there was a recall on that engine that she had not taken the car in for. They put a new motor in it, but it left us in a bad spot, a long way from home.
@charleshines2142
@charleshines2142 3 күн бұрын
If you base the life of the oil off analysis you would be safe but some people just blindly assume they never need to change it as frequently as they should. I was a Volkswagen owner and they specify 10,000 mile oil intervals. Maybe in Germany they have an oil that will hold up better that long but here in the US a lot of it is the same hydrocracked stuff unless you buy a lesser known boutique brand and there are a couple of those that I would forgive someone for not having heard of. Are they any good? I can't say for sure but if they buzz on the web is not negative I will probably try it the next change. There will always be "that guy" who says it didn't work or it ruined his engine. That one will appear to be the only one to have some sort of horror story or just be one of those people who calls everything fake or snake oil. In all fairness to that there are plenty of products that don't appear to do anything. Sometimes the vehicle is just still too new for it to make an improvement. A way to prove that would be to find one that is the same but with more miles and see what difference it makes there. It will be very eye opening because it will make it obvious how much wear creeps in over time. It may be an engine that ran like a dream new and now runs rough for various reasons that now shows an improvement after use of certain product (it can happen).
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 3 күн бұрын
I had a 2001 VW Jetta TDI, and I changed the oil every 10k just like the OEM recommended. Rotella T^ 5w-40 every time. Had it analyzed a few times. It was always still good to go at 10K miles. Car had 354K miles on it when I sold it. Still ran like a top and didn't consume oil.
@charleshines2142
@charleshines2142 3 күн бұрын
All it would really do is make the oil you have last longer! There are additives in oil that deplete over time and when that TBN gets too low the oil can start to corrode things. It is slow but it happens. One sign of overused oil is sludge but that can be a sign of a not so great oil that was overused too!
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 3 күн бұрын
Of course the oil gets depleted of additives. But those additives also get replenished when you add new oil. It's just a function of whether it depletes faster than it is replenished. But that's what oil analysis is for 👍
@rob-z8s
@rob-z8s 3 күн бұрын
start the fucking engine. oil has to go through the oil pump before it gets to the filter and you are calling everyont stupid have a look in the mirror now theres the stupid one
@oldguy1030
@oldguy1030 3 күн бұрын
You might be just a bit nuts - in a good way! Really enjoyed the video!
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍
@Rtboy954xx
@Rtboy954xx 4 күн бұрын
Btw no such thing as a toyota filter or mopar they just team up with mobil or pennzoil use their filters and put on toyota label now calling a mobil filter that cost 9.99 a toyota oem filter for 29.99 lol ur all simps
@freedomworx
@freedomworx 3 күн бұрын
The only OEM that makes their own filters, as far as I know, is Caterpillar.