SRT Tree Climbing - SCAM 3:1 Mechanical Advantage Part 1of2

[@robertbarr8001]

Elegant is the word to describe such a delightfully simple solution. And simplicity is the hallmark of genius - but don't let that go to your head. Keep taking the p*ss out of yourself - that's the hallmark of modesty - hope you're not harbouring any secret ambitions to become a comedian! I'm trying this with my Hitchhiker 2. Can't clip back into the same carabiner with that, but so far using a rigging plate plus a second crab is looking good. Thank you so much for going to the trouble of sharing this with all of us. I'm only surprised that this hasn't gone viral in the Arb world.

[@mightyconker3903]

Most Arabs don't know English and the palm trees don't have long branches

[@shyaaa182]

just came across you for the first time, like how you're thinking, and love your captions, funny and real educational really petzel... send this guy a check haha

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Ha, thanks for watching!

[@AhongTSENG]

Starting Climbing 19" , and watch the video in that year . But I getting to know the SRT System and Putting It to use at 2021 . Revisiting this video help me alot

[@FreeFallinTrees]

感謝您觀看洪。我很高興該視頻對您有幫助。安全攀爬，祝您度過美好的一天！ Gǎnxiè nín guānkàn hóng. Wǒ hěn gāoxìng gāi shìpín duì nín yǒu bāngzhù. Ānquán pān pá, zhù nín dùguò měihǎo de yītiān!

[@mvblitzyo]

O MY GOODNESS both informative and funny , I would so volunteer to hold the camera for ya ! ( smiles ) honestly another great video .. Thanks Joe

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Ha, that would be great, walking around the woods with a selfie stick is dangerous, and when I made this I hadn't quite figured out how to see what I was filming. Oh well, I was having fun.

[@mvblitzyo]

Free Fallin and is what we appreciate, your videos are fun to watch I don’t watch much television. So u tube is my TV lol

[@woodlandbros]

Hi, great video. I like the way you kept it simple. I noticed when you took the 3 to 1 rope off your main carabiner the gate didn't close and you started to take up Slack. You were holding it open with your hand. I'm sure closed when you release your hand. Be careful up there.

[@tuberider1171]

Great stuff - for those who'd like a ready reference to the content, here's my take 1:22 Genesis of the SCAM born out of a preference for 3:1 mechanical advantage system for limb walking, one that has minimal gear and is self tending 2:26 and won't get lost (dropped) and it readily retrievable (theory 2:45🤔) (demo 7:20👌). 1:56 SCAM - stands for Single Carabiner Access Method 2:26 Self-tending. 2:45 Retrievable hardware 3:14 Set up: Short and simpler version of the SCAM 4:11 Issue: Side loading climbing device when pulling above the device 4:21 Solution: Adjustable rope bridge to give yourself slack so you can pull below the climbing device 5:16 Carabiner requirements; needs to be locking and life supporting >23kn. Design: broader on top, narrow bottom. Note 5:48 DMM Revolver doesn't work with the SCAM. 6:25 Ultimate carabiner for the SCAM is the Petzl RollClip Z 7:06 Set up: with a Petzl RollClip Z 7:20 Another beautiful thing about the single carabiner: Readily dismantled and retrievable carabiner (its come home to daddy) 7:47 Climbing line set up: 8:19 Aid to making footascender tend like a dream👏😇: Simply girth hitch a throwbag to the climbing line below your foot. Another Tom Dunlap innovation 9:02 Perfunctory Dad Joke about Burr Oaks 😁 9:27 SCAM Set up in the tree

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Wow, i am impressed and a little geeked out over this. Great work. Personally i think telling people how to skip directly to the dad joke is the most valuable part. Thank you for watching and for putting this together!

[@tuberider1171]

@@FreeFallinTrees no thank, you for the effort you put it . and the humour 'burrsides' ... yours is great educational material not to mention very clever

[@markkuntz9631]

Great concept. As you were looping the upper carabiner I said (to myself) that's an HMS, a munter hitch with an extra turn. I've played with it a bit and using a Munter is even simpler and faster.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Correct, the problem with a munter only, is that it slides under weight, the extra turn helps it hold steady as it is weighted and unweighted during climbing.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Thanks for watching!

[@gregorynelson9682]

I saw and learned this maybe a year ago or more. Ive used it a lot. It works great. Love it.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Wow, thanks for posting back and letting me know Gregory, glad it's working for you.

[@brittanycantu2732]

Is there a way to set this up in the tree to make the climbing easy with the 3:1 advantage?

[@boogsc9715]

I don't care if you talk a lot, this is entertaining!

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Levi Clothier thanks man, I appreciate you watching!

[@johnmcgrath3907]

I find you pleasantly entertaining.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Thanks John, this was one of my first videos, the production value has increased over the last couple of years but unfortunately the dad jokes get much worse. Watch my 5 things to do in a tree video for a good laugh.

[@johnmcgrath3907]

Headed there now. Thanks.

[@ryanalbright6510]

Thanks for the info I am 60 years old and just started tree climbing. I have climbed poles all my life. I like the freedom of the trees. I am not sure how many years I can keep it up. I use all the tricks and tools I can to make it easy. I would love to get my hands on an Akimbo. Right now I use the Petzel zigzag.

[@strandymusic]

Hey Ryan. Me, too... Old that is! Haha. Turned 67 October (2018) and started climbing two years ago. Love it! Tree work has become my retirement "hobby job!" And have fallen in love with chainsaws.... 5 Huskies so far... :)

[@kivaswander5537]

stretch everyday and get a kettle-bell!

[@frankydawgk3640]

Hats off to you old bastards 🙏👌

[@joachimmergeay]

Yes on a Petzl Zigzag (which on SRT should always be accompanied by a chicane!) the SCAM is a little bit tricky, as you need to remove the chicane in the 3:1 MA system (too much friction from the chicane), and add it again when back on full SRT.

[@prioritytree]

excellent, good vid. That knot looks like a munter hitch with an extra half wrap.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

prioritytree thanks! And you are correct about the munter, the half wrap keeps it from sliding under load but leaves it retreivable.

[@geneo3654]

Couldn't you use the double munter?

[@JonGretarB]

Continue with the videos. Informative but also really fun to watch. So if you promise to send them out I promise to press like.

[@RTS305]

Hello sir, i’m a municipal firefighter in florida and a recent suscriber. I’ve preparing to take a rope rescue class soon, i discovered your channel while researching knots, systems, etc. I cannot overstate how cool your scam systrm is, i’ve been looking for something practical to incorporate into rope rescue with minimal gear and i think i found exactly what i was looking for. I plan to show this to as many firefighters as i can, seeing as we always have rope and caribiners lying around. Let me know if this is ok with you and if you have any thoughts on how to incorporate the scam system into rescue operations i’d be all ears. Thanks again for coming up with this.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Hello, and thank you for watching! Yes, feel free to share this with anyone you like, it has gotten fairly popular in tree industry circles and in would love to see the idea used in rescue scenarios. I have done some thinking on this and may do a video this summer on what I hace up with. But I would love to hear how this works for you and what you come up with. Please email me at [e-mail] to keep in touch.

[@raphaelbeinhauer9242]

Love it, been using Richards ring method when I had to work a tree SRT because I had no way of isolating a limb (I own no SRT gear at all), this is a lot simpler, but I will probably stick with the ring because I rarely need it, I always run out of biners though (Who doesn't?) Subscribed.

[@davidgoodman5277]

Hello. I've tried your technique a couple times now. I'm finding that the carabiner that is tied above to offer the 3:1 mechanical advantage slips. Have you experienced this? Any tricks to keeping it in place? Thank you.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

What brand and size of rope are you using? When you wrap the knot on top of the carabiner - be sure that you are wrapping around once to come back to the same side you started on, then another half wrap to the other side of the carabiner before pulling it through.

[@davidgoodman5277]

@@FreeFallinTrees Hello. Yes...I'm doing as you instruct in terms of wrapping. The rope I've been using...which is a little stiff, is Yale Blue Moon 11.7mm. I also have Teufelberger Tachyon Ash 11.5mm, but have not tried that. It's much more supple.

[@davidgoodman5277]

Also...I don't have an extendable bridge, so it's difficult to be below the rope for the 3:1 advantage. Is there a trick to having it up higher...or do I miss the concept entirely?

[@FreeFallinTrees]

@@davidgoodman5277 that combination should hold fine, i have used both of those ropes with no slipage. What kind of carabiner are you using? I would add an extra half wrap, so.two full times around. But i suspect something else may be different in your setup. I am just over 200lbs and haven't had those ropes slip on any biner so i am not sure what is happening with it.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

@@davidgoodman5277 you will still get 3:1 MA pulling from above your device, but you have to self tend, you lose the automatic progress capture.

[@strandymusic]

Great idea! Looking forward to trying this.... Enjoyed info, filming and even your humor... ;)

[@bradmetcalf7832]

Have a couple questions or thoughts, you decide. Wouldn't using a micro pulley at the device carabiner in the system increase the MA? Also what type of rope grab are you using on your adjustable bridge? oh and where did you get it?

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Hey Brad, good questions, I did try it with a micro pulley and it does decrease some friction and make the MA a little more efficient, but I found that it was slower to setup, one more piece to drop, and didn't notice any power gain so I only tried it a couple times and moved on. The grab on my bridge is a CT Roll-n-Lock, great little grab, you can find them at any climbing supply. Richard Mumford has a video about adjustable bridges that will show you how to set it up with a zip tie.

[@mikemeredith9967]

I assume it's better to use a pear carabiner on your bridge to allow space for the bight?

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Mike Meredith yes, that's correct, any shape that won't bind the rope between your device and the sidewall of the carabiner.

[@fredrikellstrom2775]

Thanks from sweden! Great!!! I do the Scam knot by turning the carabiner, just i bit faster.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Great to hear, I will try that!

[@stevenbekkering7804]

Looking at this knot I would say it is just a munter with an extra wrap. Wondering if it would be safer to pull the final bite through the carabiner in between the knot and the spline side of the carabiner (instead of the gate side). I have not climbed with this 3:1/redirect, so I'm not sure if it would be an issue. Might be a concern if it is unintentionally loaded when set up as a redirect against a branch or spar. Great idea. Look forward to trying it out and seeing more from you in the future. Subscribe.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Steven Bekkering correct, it is a munter hitch with an additional half wrap. I have tried it many times with the carabiners facing both directions, it will work either way, but the way I tie it feels a little more natural in my hand. This can put minimal outward force on the gate but nothing near the rating. You can tie it any way that makes you more comfortable with the risk.

[@liveboard]

@@FreeFallinTrees Thought I was clever by identifying the munter adaptation then scrolled down to see Steven Bekkering saw it 11 months ago. I've always been late to the party. Nicely done all the same! I discovered your video while researching methods for ascending trees employing SRT climbing methods for hunting from a tree saddle. I will keep your technique in mind as I continue to refine my methods. Thanks for sharing!

[@FreeFallinTrees]

@@liveboard thanks Dale I appreciate you watching, and good eye on the munter hitch, be safe up there!

[@dereksmith4791]

Wanted to say thank you for this video, am re-watching it as I intend to mess around with it while working later today, at any rate I've gotta double-check as I don't think my comment actually submitted yesterday to your video on Mumford/Weaver, if not then I'll be re-submitting a gentler handling of it but if it did I wanted to clarify that I think you're a good guy (when you put up those text-over-video comments of "i talk too much" or 'duck face' I found them totally unnecessary/mildly self-debasing, your videos are *awesome* and you've got *nothing* to qualify/note like that, if anyone's got a problem they can try and find someone else who explains things as clearly as you do!) At any rate, while I'll be including this in my comment (or updating my comment) on the Weaver/Mumford video(s), I found something this morning that just makes my point in the most hilarious way possible- in the same way that, no, neither Weaver/Michael/Mumford should be able to "own" the knee ascender since it was in common-usage (black&white beranek photos should be all the patent office needs to say NO to anyone's claims on the thing, and no I don't think subtle changes to fabric-types or the manner the elastic runs the tether are novel enough to warrant anything), THIS GUY has literally had some company make him eye&eye split-tails that he calls "The VT Prusik"(TM!), kzbin.info/www/bejne/kF7bm6R_ZryCj5o , it is hilarious the guy does a video on split-tails but is acting as-if he's got something novel in his hands, just a perfect illustration of how nonsensical Weaver's/Mike's/Richard's claims at "patentability" of their versions of knee ascenders truly are!! Thanks for all you've done, your practical videos like this have been useful to me in the past but your summation of the Mumford/Weaver(&Mike!) issue is just fantastic, found it on the Reddit /treeclimbing thread (which had me pretty pissed-off as it was an open-letter from Richard about whether he should press-on or not, and it was 1.5wks old w/ like 3 replies on it!!!) Can't wait for someone to try and patent SRT as a method/technique, if you can patent anythign that's not claimed yet then why not? Then you license it to any&every climber and company that uses SRT and just bathe in your royalties (am I doing this right? ;) )

[@FreeFallinTrees]

I haven't seen your other comment go through, just the one on my zipline vid. Ya, I just have fun making these videos, it's a healthy outlet and keeps me from getting bored and robbing banks or something. Patents are interesting, you can't patent something like a knee ascender that is in the public domain, you can only patent the little change to the bungee or whatever, Mike got a patent for his changes, now Richard also got one for his changes 🤷🏼‍♂️, but you're right no one can patent a whole knee ascender, or SRT, those things are already owned by the public.

[@chtclimbing]

incredible video. this is elegant. such a simplified way of doing things.thank you sir

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Thanks for watching Jose!

[@chtclimbing]

@@FreeFallinTrees im getting ready to shoot a video using this technique on a longggg walk, about 30-40 ft. I been itching for this day to to come by just to use this technique. thanks again.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

@@chtclimbing I would love to see that, I just subscribed to your channel so I don't miss it.

[@chtclimbing]

@@FreeFallinTrees Awesome man! It should be up by the end of the week depending on how much i feel like editing. lol.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

@@chtclimbing great, also check your facebook.

[@TimberTrainer]

Neat trick. The only issue I can see is that you have to lanyard in and completely unload your main climbing line, but there are ways around that. I like the simplicity and the easy retrieval, with the carabiner sliding back down. 👍

[@swagelock1380]

Could also twist the carabiner instead of wrapping the rope? One and a half twists will give you the same as one and a half wraps?

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Swagelock This is good thinking, if you twist the carabiner you will get the same knot in the end, however when you go to hang on it your rope will spin you around 1 1/2 times to unwind. Thanks for the comment!

[@super_slo]

Damn, was sure I'd found a solution to the single point of rope friction by using the dmm revolver rig twin, but after pulling the manual, no joy. The double sheave option is limited to small diameter ropes (5-8) and the pin must be installed for the double. Loving this concept, btw. Thanks!

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Thanks! Play around with it and let me know if you get it to work for you in some other way. Always interesting to see how one idea sparks the next one.

[@markdelacruz603]

Ok..... I received my Petzl Z Pulley yesterday! I looooove having this new redirect idea of yours in my mental tool bag. I have been using a large ring with an attached accessory carabiner for branch walks and redirects, but the SCAM System with the Z Pulley is so efficient and smooth. Thanks for sharing the system with us Free Fallin!!! Awesome..........Awesome........Awesome : )

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Thanks Mark! I'm glad you are using it, and it's working for you, what climbing device are you running with the SCAM?

[@markdelacruz603]

I climb a lot of Grand Laurel Oaks and use a hitch climber pulley and rope wrench for access. I like to climb way out on the branches and use both SRT & DRT to get out there. I access the trees with SRT by way of a hitch climber pulley and a rope wrench using a Michoacan Friction Hitch. I use the same set up when I branch walk but, set it up with a rads system. My rads systems consist of a ascender and a pinto pulley for a 3 to 1. I will also use DRT sometimes for branch walks but, my style leans heavily on setting up a 3 to 1m.ad. for my branch walks. So the SCAM System works very well for my set up, I just remove my Rope Wrench. Smoooothhhh as room temp.butter!!!!!!

[@FreeFallinTrees]

@@markdelacruz603 that's a great setup, I have a hitch climber pulley, i need to pick up a wrench and tether to give it a whirl. I love climbing sprawling oaks, you can get way out on a small branch and it will hold, great for swinging too. So you take the wrench off, and use the SCAM with just the hitch then, interesting. I have been told that other climbers collapse the wrench down onto the hitch to use a SCAM, but taking it off makes sense if you are going to work in one area of the tree for a while, thanks, I will pass that info on. Just curious, how did you find the video? I know it's posted around a few places.

[@markdelacruz603]

Smooth bark oaks are my favorite trees to climb. Every tree has something different to offer. I love my rope wrench and you are correct, the only time I remove it is when I'm going to be on the redirect for a long branch where I'll be keep my center of gravity low and pulling myself out to the end of the branch nearly horizontal. See the cord or tether will rub on the moving part of the rope that is connected to the top or middle hole on the Hitch Climbers Pulley and it creates some friction. Not bad, but when I'm on a branch horizontal like, it's much less wear in tear on the arms to get upright and back when I remove the wrench. I found your videos looking for innovative ways to redirect and retrieve them without climbing back to remove them. I a HUGE FAN of You Tube and I'm all about trees and climbing them. Started climbing in 2013. To date I still cant get enough of it. Did I see you using a CT Roll N Lock for a rope bridge adjuster? I've been thinking about trying that out. Richard Mumford has done some testing on bridges with the device in place. Over 5000 lbs of pull several times on the same Roll N Lock without it deforming.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

@@markdelacruz603 That's cool, I didn't know that the wrench tether would create some friction with the wrench collapsed but that makes sense. Yes, I'm using Richard's exact adjustable bridge idea and I really like it. Tight going up, loose in the tree. I'm on 6 acres in Wisconsin, lots of oaks, maples, and poplar. It's dense woods so the canopies are all high, only a couple of nicely spread trees on the edges. KZbin is my school, no doubt I would be dead without people like Richard, Educated Climber, and loads of others pointing out risks.

[@TreeMuggs_PatrickM]

Joel, can I only use this with an adjustable bridge? The knot looks like a Munter once you load it. I like it. Oh, and by the way, we could all use more tail...

[@FreeFallinTrees]

EducatedClimber.com Thanks Patrick! Any harness configuration will work. If you happen to use an adjustable bridge, then you get the bonus of a self tending device,. If you add a pulley carabiner, you get the bonus of less friction/more MA. But SCAM works just fine without either. And good eye - Richards video showed a girth hitch, to get that knot with one leg going through the carabiner instead of back through the knot, turns it into a munter. This of course is a repelling knot, and I found the biner creeping down to me. I also noticed the munter would fall off the shoulders of the biner when not loaded, which reduced the amount of grab even further. Adding that last half wrap locked it in place.

[@ThijsvanRooijen]

The petzl rollclip z is a 20kn carabiner or am i wrong?

[@FreeFallinTrees]

thijs van rooijen that is correct. In this system, the carabiner is supporting 2/3 of the load from the climber. Because of this the carabiner you use should be rated above 15kn for life support. The remaining load is on the knot and the primary line above.

[@1975dbryant]

My favorite stationary, retrievable redirect method😎

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Thanks for the comment! Glad you like it.

[@mlasson]

Will this work with a hitch climber instead of a mechanical? I guess I will find out, it’s just so cold out that I’ll wait till another day. :)

[@slaxxx]

just blew my mind!! will it work with a ropewrench?

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Michael Slaczka Slaczka thanks for watching! I haven't tried it with the wrench, but I don't think it will work because it needs a device that can switch loads easily. On a SCAM you are only putting 1/3 of your weight on the device so it's like setting the wrench up for an adult and then hanging a kid on it, not enough load. Let me know if you can get it to work though.

[@raphaelbeinhauer9242]

You can just pop the pin out when using this, as soon as you go back to SRT put the pin back in. You might have the wrench dangling weird though.

[@schmuckytheraiderbear5043]

Love it! I've tried a few times and my only concern is that there is rope on rope friction at one point. Seems fine is you go short distances or go slowly when going long distances. Not something I would want to use over and over on the same section of rope. Curious if you've come up with any solutions to minimize that? I've been trying to think of a clip or cover you can put on the rope where it rubs.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Anthony Villagomez thanks for trying this! what carabiners are you using? I have noticed a big difference in the amount of rope friction based on carabiner shape. Also what device? I am climbing on a Bulldog Bone now and it has a lot more friction in a SCAM than the Akimbo does.

[@schmuckytheraiderbear5043]

It's not actually a concern about too much friction when climbing. That seems fine and, as you stated, adjustable depending on your climbing system etc. My concern is where you put the rope through the carabiner. As you descend/ascend one section of the rope is stationary while the other moves and rubs the stationary line in one spot. Granted its not a ton of friction or under strong tension but something that makes me reluctant to descend quickly or long distances.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

That makes sense, I would not use a SCAM to bomb out of a 100 foot tree, even if you had 300 feet on your tail that would be really inefficient. So far I like it best for limb walks and short drops where I want a little more control.

[@schmuckytheraiderbear5043]

My thoughts exactly. That's what I've been trying it with and its a great tool in those situations.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Excellent, and thank you for the feedback, always looking for ways to tweak and improve.

[@awesometopics1988]

Awesome video man thanks for the knowledge

[@FreeFallinTrees]

You bet Dan, thanks for watching!

[@grainderiz_aventure8296]

Sorry but I don’t understand what it is used for ?

[@FreeFallinTrees]

If you are in a wide spreading tree with limbs that hang down, you set this before you walk out on the limb and it makes it easy to pull yourself back up. If you decide to redirect while you are away from your tie in point, you can release this from anywhere and redirect from there.

[@grainderiz_aventure8296]

Free Fallin I’ll try that tomorrow then ! For tree climbing I use a grigri and a ropeman that is all I use...

[@lawrencewallace7501]

Everybody needs to be careful of this guy, he is a literal "scam" artist. lol I bought the z pulley, and can't wait to use the SCAM technique. Thanks for your very informative, insightful, and clever videos, as well as introducing me to Richard Mumford and his SAKA. Gonna become a supporter of him, not the jockstrap kind either.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Lol, you had me at first. Good to hear from you Lawrence, and long live the SAKA!

[@lawrencewallace7501]

@@FreeFallinTrees ...and the SAKA-mini-Max. I have been thinking about sending my HAAS back to the manufacturers, with a copy of the receipt of the SAKA-mini-Max that I might purchase from Richard, or Amazon.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

@@lawrencewallace7501 that would be epic, I fully support both of those gestures. Weaver needs to know this is not how this community works.

[@lawrencewallace7501]

@@FreeFallinTrees I was getting ready to order the mini max...it is unavailable on Amazon, and Climbinginnovations.com. Once one is available, I'll buy it, then send my HAAS back to Weaver. Which dept. is the best one to send it back to at Weaver?

[@FreeFallinTrees]

@@lawrencewallace7501 I hope that means orders for the mini-max are backed up from over selling. As for the other device, I would send it to corporate headquarters since that seems like where the letter needs to go.

[@zegerderoose5401]

I tried it today with a rope wrench and hitch + pully. I could not descend : too much friction....any solutions , suggestions to make it work ?

[@FreeFallinTrees]

ZEGER DEROOSE I don't have a wrench to test with, but if you use a pulley carabiner on top like I did in the tree, then add a small pulley to the bottom loop instead of putting it on the lower carabiner directly, then it might reduce the drag enough to work for you. Let me know how it goes and thanks for watching!

[@zegerderoose5401]

Free Fallin Yes, I did use the rollclip on top and a revolver for the loop on my bridge. The only way I could descent (albeit very unsmooth) was to pull the rope wrench and the hitch (vt) simultaniously down. Suppose I need an Akimbo asap ☺

[@FreeFallinTrees]

ZEGER DEROOSE that makes sense, I need to get a wrench, but my understanding is that the wrench is designed to increase friction when you release the hitch to help smooth the descent. With most full mechanical devices they are designed to go to almost 0 friction when needed. So a SCAM will probably not work for you the way it's designed right now, there is too much friction on the wrench, even when you completely release the hitch. Thanks for testing this! Let me know if you find a work around.

[@zegerderoose5401]

Free Fallin will do , thanks for your response. The s.c.a.m is a nice invention anyway👍

[@rypie37]

I've been trying out a V-rig setup with a RW lately (by taking a redirect, then adding a pulley midline which attaches back to hitchclimber - so one side of the V is single line and the other is double with a RW) and have noticed I have to do the same thing - pull on the wrench and the hitch to descend. The wrench just adds too much friction. Also eagerly awaiting the Akimbo...

[@MrSilverback62]

Cool. It works well. Caveat: tie a knot about 5 feet from BOTH ends of your rope. It uses a lot more rope than you think. The end with the knot may not be the one that runs out. Don't ask me how I know.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Chuckles good advise, always tie a stopper knot! Climbing mainly SRT, the other end of my rope is through the basal anchor, but a knot on the lowerable tail is a good idea as well.

[@heatherhampton3160]

Where do you purchase a bulldog?

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Heather Hampton they are not in mass production yet, but are being assembled and sold by the creator. There is an online forum called treebuzz. If you join that, and then message a user named Surveyor, he can help you with pricing and ordering. He is well known and very trusted in the community, I am planning to purchase one myself very soon.

[@heatherhampton3160]

Wow, thanks so much!

[@stevenbekkering7804]

SherrillStuff sticker was a nice jab.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Steven Bekkering congratulations Steve! You are the first one to call that out, it was so subtle I thought everyone would miss it.

[@nathanarievlis3985]

Are you always entertaining, amusing and clever? Just trying to figure out if you're gonna disappoint me eventually. Yes, my approval is more important than the line you climb on

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Nathan Silveira yes I am, all the time. However, I have been told by a government employee that I am not as funny as I think I am, so my opinion of myself may be biased. If you would like to be entertained, watch my zipline video, if you are more in the mood for disappointment, watch my haters video it will only take about ten seconds to become bored and unfollow me. Have a great day!

[@mike8hunter]

Nice and simple thanks

[@FreeFallinTrees]

mike8hunter thanks! Let me know how it works for you.

[@turb0nasty887]

Tree guys dont use screw gate for life support. Its widely accepted on other areas but not in tree work

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Thanks for your feedback, in the last year and a half I have moved away from them as well.

[@TreeCraftbyAndrew]

If it ain't burr oak! Priceless!

[@FreeFallinTrees]

TreeCraft by Andrew hahaha, dad jokes.

[@joachimmergeay]

I love the SCAM system, have been using it since I saw it here. There's a big BUT if you're usingthe Petzl roll-clip Z: it's rated at 20 kN, not the required 23 kN

[@FreeFallinTrees]

That's a fair observation, however... i will see your BUT and raise you an even bigger BUT 🤣 The modified munter hitch on the top of the roll-clip Z always holds 50% of the load. The carabiner itself only holds half. That means that with this configuration, the carabiner would be rated at an overall system load of 40kn with only 20kn on the carabiner if that makes sense. Thanks for watching by the way.

[@joachimmergeay]

@@FreeFallinTrees haha, good point. Makes me feel better to use the roll-clip Z (which I do) in the unlikely case of a law suit. No idea why Petzl didn't design it to be rated at 23 kN though. Keep up the irony in your videos ;-)

[@FreeFallinTrees]

@@joachimmergeay glad your enjoying the videos, climb safe!

[@MrSingleJack]

This guy does talk a lot - and subtitle a lot … it's all good -- nice presentation!

[@FreeFallinTrees]

JB Holdway Haha, thanks man, been watching your vids for a while now, great stuff.

[@ericsameol364]

Wisconsin Eh? Dad's in the UP up 'dare 'eh. Cut my teeth in the swamp out back up there with a Johnsered. Then got a Stihl 29. Now I'm halfway to Florida from there. East TN. Got a few saws since then. Husq mostly. Looking to learn to climb. Dont wanna just learn online if ya catch my drift. Want someone there who Can Catch My Drift Actually if i happen to fall. HaHa Where can a guy go? Would rather learn correctly so i don't. Know what i mean...

[@BatmanProject777]

Eric Same'ol check out Treeclimbing.com. They've got a feature that allows ya to find other climbers in your area.

[@MrPlochman7988]

JB Holdway Don’t be a hater. This community is too small for the backbiting. Help him improve, or keep it movin!

[@FreeFallinTrees]

@@MrPlochman7988 I know, right? How dare he tell me "it's all good" and "nice presentation", I cried for days. Haha, JB is actually a good friend, good man, and fantastic climber, I welcome an actual critique from him any day. Climb safe!

[@kirkjohnson8259]

Where about are you in Wi? I am in Menomonie, West central. I started climbing trees as a hobby too, now I am trimming them as well, at least my own. I am looking to climb with others and would like to learn from you and climb if you aren’t too far. PM me if interested.

[@timothyjsullivan]

Lolz to your monologue. Thanks for video

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Ha, thanks for watching Timothy, the videos get much worse as they go on 😉

[@kirkjohnson8259]

Oh, nice video

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Thanks Kirk, i appreciate that.

[@creativemario101]

Lovely equipment but most you want to show is missing because didn't catch by camera. I cant see important moments which is anoing. Didn't learn much

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Apologies Mariusz, I will be sending you a full refund. I also made a replacement video for you, with better camera work that you can watch here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJCvpX-Pj5xjgtE Have a great day!

[@stephentree3466]

"Actual climbing speed".......bloody brilliant . Belly laugh

[@FreeFallinTrees]

I know, impressive. Hahahahaha

[@brandonkarhu5599]

Slick!

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Thanks for watching.

[@kivaswander5537]

dude don't drop things lol! cool idea and good video but i feel like it could slip down the carabiner and get you stuck in the tree

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Ha, dropping things is half the fun. That extra wrap on the munter hitch makes it sinch instead of slipping under load, hundreds of people are using this and no reports of slipping. Give it a shot and let me know if it slips on you.

[@kivaswander5537]

Free Fallin I will have to believe you man, it’s really not my style. I like to just set up and then switch to drt with ring and ring saver

[@treecred97]

how come you sound more theoretical...? And how is all you gear looks like its all new.....you would think there would be wear n tear on your gear....

[@FreeFallinTrees]

You caught me, I am in theory, a russian bot. Hahaha, I am actually a recreational climber, and 2 years ago when I shot this, a lot of my gear was very new, I learned to climb on crap, and then upgraded as I went. Shiny new gear is always a good thing for me 😁

[@RagedContinuum]

NEAT

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Thanks for watching Rod!

[@genethecook2300]

YA.....no! I'm very interested in what you are trying to show me but the camera footage is too complicated to understand. So maybe you could do something a little different on the same thing. Lighting and angles are all wrong. No disrespect intended, as I said, you fix it and I'd watch again. Nice try though. At least your out there doing it for us. Thanks.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Thanks for watching Gene, and I couldn't agree more. This was one of the first videos I made 2 years ago, hopefully my skills have improved all around, here is one of my latest, let me know if I am headed the right direction kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJCvpX-Pj5xjgtE

[@lawrencewallace7501]

See if this has better lighting and angles. I use it quite a bit, and am glad I saw Free Fallin share how to do it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gp-bZYauqtWbb7s

[@jodygucwa8892]

love the scam. thanks for sharing

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Thanks for watching Jody!

[@matiascamprubi-soms7719]

I'm not falling for it. SCAM!

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Ha, you caught me.

[@stinkkbugg]

i only give a thumbs down because while in the oak, your camera is in a terrible place for showing what you are doing. yes this is going to take me some practice but i wish your video showed me what was going on in the tree a litter better than what you were able to provide.

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Thanks for the feedback, this was one of my first videos 3 years ago. Didn't know anything about making videos then and only had an old cell phone to shoot with. My newer ones are much better.

[@ericmassie9334]

Wanna be besties? 🤭

[@FreeFallinTrees]

Hahaha, only if I get to ride in the skoolie