Freemotion Dual Cable Cross Review: The Best Functional Trainer Ever Made That's No Longer...

[@richardmather1906]

The fact that of the two versions of the machine, you put the best one in the garage gym and the second best in the gym gym is the most Coop thing ever.

[@thomasbrown7328]

Ain’t it the truth

[@blissrunner]

Don't want careless people destroying a piece of art. In a home gym & proper maintainance... this will last like 70s refrigerators

[@bsmooth5487]

I'm surprised with some of the negative reviews. I was so impressed with the kzbin.infoUgkxMwYg0MOXR4M-oGeyBsNSYe1aPOUoRH6D cage that I got the lat pulldown attachment that goes with it. It is equally outstanding. I don't have one complaint other than putting it together is a job. The instructions and packaging of the parts are very well designed and organized. Also, I stripped and damaged the pull down cable the first day, admitting it was my stupid fault, and they quickly replaced it at no charge. I'm 6'5, 280lbs and fit in the cage just fine. Glenn B

[@craigcook7767]

About 10 years ago I was up late one night surfing the web and decided to check out 2nd hand gym equipment. I came across an online auction for this machine. A gym was closing down and all the equipment was being liquidated. I bid $1,000.00 just for the fun of it, and low and behold I was the lucky bidder. Couldn't believe it. Anyhow its been in my garage ever since and is a key piece in my workout arsenal. Built like a tank and almost bomb proof. Coop's right, it's simply the best!

[@Ricky-drip-go-woo]

How did you move the thing? I can buy one second hand for 900$ now but I have no idea how I'd bring it home

[@AJ-ur9lc]

@@Ricky-drip-go-woo did you figure it out?

[@uclajd]

I have the Freemotion G424 Dual Cable Cross Lite (commercial version) and love it. Bought it new, and Freemotion came in and installed it for me. It sits in my gym like a terminator, waiting. No excuses, the home gym is always open!

[@jonk34343]

I ordered the g624 a few weeks ago and they will deliver by the end of the year. I can’t wait!

[@keycanto9087]

@@jonk34343 hi bro , i just ordered same one and now waiting for delivery , do you think the weight stack is a bit light ? Can it do most exercise ? Thanks you

[@cacapoopoo2327]

I used to use these at Lifetime and always loved them. I now own a Prime FT. Love it as well.

[@BasementBrandon]

Even if I wanted to drop the cash on this kind of thing it would never make it to the basement. Built in investment protection lol.

[@OfficialMarkZuckerberg]

I would have to imagine these kind of things can be taken apart.

[@joshevers3312]

It would probably be just as easy to build your gym/house around the thing lol.

[@GarageGymReviews]

If I had to carry down a single stair, I wouldn't do it. The only thing worse was the Arsenal 7 gauge rack.

[@docelky]

I have mine in the basement. It wasn't the hardest thing I've brought down there sure as hell don' t want to bring it back up though

[@Egghead1199]

@@docelky what is the hardest thing you’ve brought down to your basement then 😳

[@peterbarrett5496]

Totally agree. Whenever the gym has this nice crosscable it’s awesome and high traffic

[@frankiehernandez1854]

Doug Brignole's book physics of resistance exercise mentions dumbbells with a bench or two and that machine specifically as the best and most efficient way of working any muscle in the body. You have a nice piece there. Trying to locate something similar for myself.

[@RGF1749]

👍🏼 i love mine. If I remember correctly there two different arm lengths available. I would strongly suggest you get the one with the longer arms.

[@narigon3942]

We used to have one of these at the 24 hour fitness club I used to train at. The brand was called “Ground Zero.” I think we got it in late 2000. By the end 2001, after 911, the new ones where renaned “Free Motion.” Ours had a sticker covering the old name with the new “”Free Motion” brand name label. 😁

[@mdjak3686]

Just ordered the new version. Damn expensive but can’t wait to get it. Thanks for spending more of my money, Coop.

[@Tiger2000Lion2005]

Coop, I want to thank you for these recommendations as I found this exact model locally and had it delivered. It really is well built and the cables and stainless steel are really nice. The new ones are great too but the lack of plastic and build quality here have me impressed. Its really a great addition for the accessory exercises and it does not take up much space at all. I had a hoist functional trainer and am so glad I sold it during covid and found this as its much more versatile especially since I have a power rack for the pull ups, bench etc...

[@david894]

I used to go to a Planet Fitness (it was a huge gym) that has this machine. I LOVED IT!!!!!!!! It's the only piece of equipment that I was willing to wait to use. Awesome. I'm so jealous Coop.

[@NUMBER_74]

That is so crazy that you posted this video! I just picked up the same machine on Saturday! I ended up getting it for a really good price because everybody that showed up to buy the machine couldn't move it. They weigh over 1,200 lb fully assembled. I had to remove both weights stacks and both arm assemblies to transport it. It was from a rehabilitation center that was closing down. It was just shy of being brand new! An awesome addition to my garage gym. And it was wife approved!

[@BenDunlop]

Been there before (being prepared to buy second hand with a set of tools to disassemble the item, after everyone before wasn't able to move something). How much did you get it for?

[@jjpaul255]

How much did u get it for?

[@thomasbrown7328]

How much?!?

[@NUMBER_74]

It was originally listed for $4,500. I stole it for $2,300. For whatever reason, they wanted it out the same day. So it worked to my advantage. They had higher offers but needed to wait for a moving company to pick it up. I pulled up with cash, tools, full size truck with a long bed oh, and a good back!

[@thomasbrown7328]

Luck favors the prepared! Also, I quote the movie Aladdin when he was telling Aladdin to go in the cave to get the lamp: “I need a young pair of legs and a strong back to go in after it.”

[@807paperclip]

I have had my freemotion for the last 5 years, and I love it. How i move mine around was on a beefy gun safe rolling dolly.

[@region015]

This free motion trainer is the best equipment made ever. I can do full body workout with this. Its been my favorite equipment in the commercial gyms among 100s of others

[@lordofdapit]

the gym i went to pre-pandemic had a couple of these. i miss using them.

[@mariopellegrino7661]

This machine is like the mechanical ancestor to the Tonal.

[@zacharykennedy922]

Sad but also true. The Tonal doesnt touch the free motion in the category of being a /1200lb moving gains statue sitting there in the middle of your darn garage. Ever nod what's up to your neighbor mid 10th set of 55lb extreme decline standing chest press, then hop in your car and go to dinner with your wife 10 minutes later??

[@jaleesa00]

It reminds me of the robot they left behind in interstellar

[@atp_powerlifting560]

Also thanks for increasing the value of my equipment with each video 😁😁😁😁😁💯🙏

[@dt703]

Definitely agree that the Freemotion is one of, if not the best functional trainers out there. Have the genesis lite version of this on the way for one of my final pieces to the gym.

[@Tremonti78]

Do you find the Lite version is heavy/hard enough to do most things with? Like pulldowns and rows? I use about a single 220 lbs on most high/low row.

[@Ballzackk11]

I picked up one of these for $1000 and it's basically brand new. The person had it listed on offer up as "exercise equiptment" with no tags. I knew what it was right away. A moving company had obtained it after the rich owner let them keep it because he had too many workout machines.... The son of the owner had me back up my trailer to a 5ft loading doc, and somehow the two of us got the main tube into the trailer by lifting it from the loading dock upright into the trailer. Worth the tremendous and terrifying effort to say the least ;)

[@josephh5085]

Would love to see a review of the Titan and Valor plate loaded functional trainer for us budget people!

[@richardmather1906]

Plate loaded is definitely the way to go for those on a budget. Use the same plates for everything, dbs, barbells, adjustable kettlebells, high low pulley station, etc.

[@majorgear1021]

I love plates as it’s easy to add more weight as you get stronger. With the weight stack models , you stuck with what you ordered.

[@marcpizzutiello8649]

I have this machine in my home gym, it came in several flat boxes, so I assembled it. Heavy as hell, can’t even imagine trying to move this beast fully assembled. I was spending most of my time on this machine at the gym, so figured I’d just buy one, yeah it was expensive but for me it’s worth it, but you definitely need the ceiling height. I checked out the Tonal wall unit, that thing is not much cheaper than the FM Ext, but you have a subscription fee and a selection of virtual PTs and programs to follow. Great video💪🏼

[@CalebRox]

I would actually disagree with you. I would put this dual-adjustable crossover machine as one of the top "must-buys" for a home gym because it allows you to pretty much do any exercise optimally and efficiently. For example, instead of the lat pulldowns, you can do one-arm lat pull-ins, which have better range of motion and bypass the bilateral deficit. Check out Doug Brignole's BRIG-20 - 20 of the best exercises, most of which are done with cables on the FreeMotion.

[@joexxlee]

Thank you internet stranger for inadvertently changing my life. This is the second comment on this video mentioning Doug Brignole so I got curious and looked him up. Ended up buying his book/videos and it has forever transformed the way I will approach resistance training. Absolute game changer and I am utterly shocked how his teachings have not gone mainstream yet. Cheers!

[@CalebRox]

@@joexxlee Glad to have helped! :)

[@GarageGym411]

It's Doug Brignole's 'fault' that I ended-up purchasing a Keiser Standing Hip (multi-hip) machine! Be sure to check out Doug's appearance on Mark Bell's podcast - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bofHiWhvf6x4nbM

[@higB0x05]

coop .. im telling you.. ive used this functional trainer ... but im telling yout the keiser air one feels even betteR!

[@Levi.Jaeckel]

Agreed!

[@mortenpoulsen8688]

Yes the Keiser is KING, we are getting the powerrack at work tomorrow morning - the cable machine just blow my mind!

[@Egghead1199]

Don’t give him any ideas

[@Ballzackk11]

Except the arms dont move horizontally. Kaiser's can stay in the PT clinics.

[@GarageGym411]

I've got a Tuff Stuff PS-245.2x FT (like Athlean-X) and the Keiser FT. While the Tuff Stuff FT has arms that move in 2-planes, the Keiser doesn't need to have this feature, IMHO. NOTE: Keiser FT can only provide a max of about 55lbs of resistance (per arm) but you can attach the cable ends (from each arm) together using a properly rated carabiner from Home Depot and the total resistance will then DOUBLE (while only providing a single attachment point when doing so) when using the aforementioned carabiner. The Keiser FT uses 1 continuous rope for its cable. When using 1 arm, by itself, the 'cable' length of the Keiser FT will span about 12 feet. If using both Keiser FT arms at once, the 'cable' length will be reduced to about 6 feet for each arm.

[@Rocket4ce]

I'm happy for you Coop! Way to score on that functional trainer.

[@jamiecarr5101]

I have the single stack version and it’s by far the smoothest one I’ve ever used. It’s a better feel than the dual stack.

[@northeastcorals]

Am I right in thinking the arms only go up & down on the single stack version, rather than in & out as well? I have the Nordic Track single stack machine, which as far as I can tell is exactly the same as a Freemotion machine but with different stickers on it. Unfortunately it's arms on mine only go up & down & not in & out, which I find extremely limiting so I'm selling it & upgrading to the Freemotion Dual stack.

[@FitnessNews24]

Tfw coops functional trainer costs more than your entire gym 😄

[@kylen6430]

Seriously. Just get the lat pull down attachment most racks have and call it a day

[@FitnessNews24]

@@kylen6430 I mean a trainer is nice, but the free motion ones are insane, most gyms don't even have em

[@CaseSpecificAthletics]

I have one of these in my personal training gym and I hate it. Lol. The weight stacks being as light as they are I think really hurts the functionality. But like you said it's not really made for lat pull downs and rows so I shouldn't complain. This video helps me appreciate it more. Though you sure aren't lying about loving that damn thing

[@stealthassasin1day291]

This Free motion Dual Stack is everything you need especially for accessories. Combined with a Rack you have yourself a complete gym. Even older and used models go up to $3-4k. You have to take it apart completely and re-assemble if you want an easy time moving this. Even Brain Shaw and 3+ guys had trouble moving this bad boy in one piece.

[@DoritosResidue]

Because of covid quite a few closing gyms were selling equipment such as free motion functional trainers for fairly cheap in my area. Cheapest I've seen was for about 1800 and im sure it got haggled down in price.

[@Ricky-drip-go-woo]

Which video is that? I want to buy one second hand it's an amazing deal I just have no idea how I would move it? Do you have the link or title to that brian shaw video?

[@docelky]

I absolutely love my freemotion. It's a newer model with not as much weight stack but use it nearly every work out. My only beef is that some shoulder flies the difficulty in progressing from 3 to 7 to 10 to 12 lbs is hard. I use micro weights and put them on the sack in the back ( I left the back cover off) which works ok. Hey Coop thanks for the used gym link. I will check it out.

[@futbol1972]

They are selling me GZFM60063 for $2000 here in my town. Can this machine replace a lat pull down machine and low rows? If so how would I hold myself down and is it high enough like a lat pull down machine to get full extension?

[@mxchino1]

Take one for the team and drop this thing on rep’s safety straps 😂

[@throgwarhammer7162]

Coop is one of the few people who can say "I have one at the gym. Let's go take a look" then (while at said gym) also say "let's go back to the gym, and we'll talk about the one I wanted."

[@thomasbrown7328]

Now Coop’s garage has so much mass when people walk by outside they feel a gravitational pull.

[@mikes3523]

In this video I could afford the Spud Inc strap he used, but that's about it. 😂

[@satchm05]

@@georgedobbs9216 he still does that stuff too. I like the variety. He still frames it in that context.

[@vega0432]

Can we expect a review on the Titan Fitness functional trainer? Love the reviews Coop, keep them coming!!

[@tonycrispin]

When I first started working out, the globo gym I was at had this same machine with all the cool brushed stainless and it's been my dream to have one in the garage gym. Glad I'm not the only one, lol

[@davidb1975a]

Now I have another Fitness equipment dealer to shop from.... Checked what shipping would be on a couple products and it was free for my area. Kick ASS!

[@DoritosResidue]

I've seen quite a few of the free motion older models like the ones at 24 hour fitness for sale in my area. And fairly cheap. Absolutely they are the best functional trainers ever made

[@Bacnow]

Fairly cheap? What area and how much?

[@MrRyan-fd9rd]

I just bought the G624 yesterday. Can’t wait for the next 4-6 weeks to come.

[@Applefanatic1000]

Coop, no! Now these will never be listed on FB Marketplace and Craigslist for pennies 😭

[@Isaiah-ft5nx]

Cats out of the bag!

[@reezeyfit]

Hey Coop, I work at Fitness Expo in New Orleans. Check out the Hoist Mi5. It’s a smaller version of this, $2500-2800. Has some really cool features like a back support and even suspension training. The cable can extend out even farther than this for weighted back pedal, bear crawls, horizontal lunges, and even broad jumps.

[@Tiger2000Lion2005]

Had a hoist and thank goodness I sold it and found this. Its much more versatile but hoist is a good option if you dont have a power rack

[@docbob5821]

Opposite what doug bridgnoble says he says it's the main piece of a home gym

[@davidc1659]

This has always been my favorite one as well, every time I see one come up I try to buy it locally but it hasn’t worked out yet. Just picked up an ft2 pretty cheap so I’ll be good but this is also my dream piece.

[@sinjitsu]

An idea would be to attach a custom bar with two clips to combine both weight stacks for increased resistance. This would solve the issue for those who think it isn't enough weight stack being 70lbs so effectively doubling.

[@RGF1749]

I usually move both arms to have the pulleys as close to each other as possible, and use one large clip to hold both cables at the same time and attach my lat pull down bar to that. It allows both stacks of weights to be utilized this way.

[@TCDynasty]

im on another end of spectrum where i think functional trainers are far and away the first (best) purchase you should make for your home gym

[@tylerconversefitness]

Hoist V2 is a great option too. Heavy as heck but picked mine up for $350 on Facebook

[@graham1034]

IMO the areas they've "cheaped out" on for the new ones are totally acceptable. Who cares if the flashing that you never touch is plastic. The areas that could get damaged or are high use are still metal. That being said the pedal for adjustment is pretty sweet, though is also another point of maintenance/failure. Have used these many times at various Globo gyms and they're the best I've ever used.

[@acap5399]

I have the Rep FT-3000 Compact Trainer and its built like a tank and perfect for a garage gym

[@AD-ui6sk]

Sounds like a Ford truck

[@Ballzackk11]

Not even close lol

[@Thedudeabides803]

I wish I didn’t watch this, because I have to have it

[@RGF1749]

One the best purchases i made for my gym.

[@ForTehNguyen]

used this when i used to go to 24hr, one of my fav machines there, super versatile

[@atp_powerlifting560]

if you remove everything, the arms, weight stack, feet, cables ect... the tube is "only" 600lb...... it was a fun discovery when I went to pick it up from the owner

[@GarageGymReviews]

Too much time. I just move it as is hahaha

[@atp_powerlifting560]

@@GarageGymReviews I wanna see that video 😉

[@adamzielinski7712]

TuffStuff Fitnesss also makes a very solid functional trainer.

[@GarageGym411]

I purchased a pre-owned Tuff Stuff PS-245 FT (as seen on the Athlean-X KZbin Channel) - it was their PS-245.4x (4:1 ratio) model. Then ordered 2 cable kits from Tuff Stuff for their PS-245.2x (2:1) ratio model (for around $200.00 shipped) and now my two, 200lb stacks can provide 100lbs each (or 200lbs with a suitable carabiner by connecting the ends of both cables)

[@daniela261000]

I been looking for one this I tried at my gym and fell in love for this equipment

[@lstaff2507]

He right this one was my favorite machines. Its the only one with a foot peddle. One awesome piece of equipment

[@OurFitFamilyof7]

I bought a matrix commercial unit used for 1800 and it’s the best one I have ever used not to mention it literally gets used everyday. Took my garage gym over the top

[@baljazz]

Love this machine.

[@capngeo2002]

Use that exact model at the club in Kona, HI. Awesome! Cracks me up that you have one in the garage.

[@Gunny559]

I got myself the PRECOR FTS Glide. 100% happy with it.

[@adammikhaiel283]

The gym-chain I go to has these, no one actually uses them as much as standard functional trainers.

[@davidlarmann5244]

same here, thing collected dust at my gym and i think people were intimidated on how to adjust it. took up a ton of space.

[@bigdogkropp]

I bought a Paramount Freemotion machine used for $700. Basically the same thing. Built like a tank with two 85 lb stacks. Best value of any of the home gym equipment I have purchased. Fits well into a corner and was able to get it into my 11' x 14' home gym

[@SG-lj8uu]

Love this guy's personality: really funny

[@Gravelleknives]

Just snagged this exact machine for $300 out of a high-school

[@northeastcorals]

Getting one of these bad lads delivered tomorrow 😁

[@ryandelauz]

Always loved that machine at the gym. I just ordered the prime functional trainer hoping I like it better than that one or will be real pissed

[@ballattacker3]

Hey Coop first time commenter, long time subscriber....what about a Keiser vs every free motion machine video??? Where does it rank in cost and functionality? Love the page though keep it up.

[@Tiger1016.]

Got one of these that will be for sale in Houston. Message me if interested. Laughed about the moving comments. Yeah my movers have cursed me the 3 times they have moved this thing. Especially the time one crew had to get this up to a third floor without jacking up the wood floors along the way. But this is truly the best functional trainer ever made given the versatility, space saving design, indestructible construction, and looks, which is why I spent such a long time trying to find one. My upcoming move and need to downsize is a big bummer to have to let the GOAT go :(

[@Isaiah-ft5nx]

I’ve used one of those before, easily one of the best cable machines ever invented. Sad to hear they are going extinct...

[@mplussant]

You left out price...

[@fujitofusan]

6k

[@tristanbishop34]

We have one of these in our office gym! Besides the peloton and this machine the gym is your typical crappy hotel gym! I love the machine!

[@josht138]

Coop, I just got the Inspire FTX from Costco. Tough to beat that one from a value perspective at probably under 1400 brand new to your door. So far its been a great machine. You should check it out.

[@ivangadzhanov]

If you got welding skills you can make a nice functional trainer for a fraction of the cost, the most expensive things are the weight stacks.

[@PeterSchneemann]

The problem is that the weight stacks do not feel heavy enough, but it is a smooth motion with constant resistance

[@tabo01]

These are so much better than the stuff that is replacing them.

[@sneakergearz]

Hey Coop. Since you have both the full free form professional version and the Tonal at Home. Can you compare and breakdown differences? Sorry, started watching and didn’t finish video yet before I’m commenting if you hit this point already. Your videos are invaluable to the fitness community especially during these times.

[@GarageGymReviews]

Yeah, great idea. They're very different.

[@mesatrin]

I know it is not the best but I use a bowflex for a lot of my accessory movements. I still have my rack, barbells, and dumbbells, but the bowflex give me a lat pull down attachment, a leg extension/hamstring attachment. It has high and low positions for press downs or reverse flys. For the cheap price you can find them used it is hard to complain about it.

[@slvice14]

COOP! Is there any possible way you could go into depth on what the shipping and packaging look like and how it was delivered? I would like to know more about how I’m going to physically get this from my front door into my gym which is actually around the back of my house and somewhat hard to get to. Thanks brother keep doing what you do!

[@aaronjames9031]

I have one of these... an earlier model though, and I agree that it's awesome.

[@romanroman9329]

Nice equipment.but where is your musles?

[@plan-bgroupllc118]

Thanks Coop

[@nothingbutnature1010]

Can you pleaseeee make a video on how to assemble it and un assemble🙏🏼

[@codysmith1915]

So I know this may be a weird one, but I have a bowflex revolution machine that is lighter smaller and works just like a free standing functional trainer. Might not be quite as over kill as this but it works amazingly well and has a leg press

[@ct6447]

How about doing a FORCE USA FITNESS G12 review please 🙏🏿

[@holtercomputer9301]

Great video(s) thanks! Have you ever thought about the Mi6 from Hoist for home gym? We were advised that the quality if way superior to all the other brands.

[@AJSwart34]

I think if I hit the lottery then I could have a home gym some what likes Coop's.

[@HughLeFitness]

How much did it cost?

[@AdamsBrew78]

I’d love to find something like this for around the same price of the Tonal. That thing looks like you’d be lucky if it still works a decade in, but something sturdy like the Freemotion could last a lifetime with proper maintenance.

[@isaacs3397]

Can you review some lat pull downs you recommend?

[@loudavidson4371]

What is the model number of your Freemotion with the foot pedals? I'm guessing its the GZFM6024.4 which came out in 2004.

[@Ballzackk11]

Correct

[@zachkieri1185]

This is one of the most versatile pieces of equipment I’ve ever used in any gym I’ve ever worked in; it’s basically the closest you can get to a combination functional trainer/cable crossover. It’s biggest drawback is the low available resistance. The only thing I would compare is a Keiser functional trainer but 💰💰💰and compressed air resistance 😬

[@Ballzackk11]

75lbs effective at each handle. Plenty of resistance for the exercises you would be doing on this.... for your 200lb plus lat pulldowns you have a separate standalone if you can afford this

[@KungFuCooter]

I have a functional trainer in my home gym but don't have a squat rack. I was in rehab for a peck tare and found a Golds Gym Functional trainer on Facebook market place for $300. Getting it i could do the same exercises at home that the therapist had me doing so it made sense for me to purchase it.

[@alfonsoperez1762]

That’s at my apartments gym 💪 I use it for cable work, I have a gym in the living room lol 😂

[@BenDunlop]

Priorities 👍

[@graham1034]

Lucky. My apartment has one of the fixed/corner style FTs and it gets the job done for the most part but my local big box gym has one of these Freemotion ones and it is so much better. That being said the limited weight really restricts what you can use it for. Would love to use my apartment one for rows but ~70lbs just doesn't cut it. I've tried using both stacks at once for it but the angles are awkward.

[@cobracommander9138]

I need one of those machines! Forget that REP Athena and Ares weight stack Swiss Army contraption!

[@truthisoutthere6721]

Ok I have a serious question. I want to but one for my home gym. I want one of the older “good ones” however I live in a normal home with small rooms and 8 foot ceilings. Will this even work for me?? If not then what do you recommend? Thanks

[@gilllie666]

Great content

[@Jellyforce620]

My gym has three of those. Really nice machine.

[@rxonmymind8362]

$1500 local CL add. Wonder if I should get it?

[@zacharykennedy922]

Yes if it’s this same one

[@lennythedog6544]

@garagegymreviews I see a titan lat pull down, review coming soon? It’s on my short list!

[@n8strength]

This is my unicorn. One day I’ll catch one and tame it

[@bulkfiction7687]

Lol awesome review and clean ass machine!

[@MW-bx9yq]

I just acquired one as well! I am currently trying to move it! Any tips or advice on how to move it safely? Remove the weight stacks? Do you have a manual with instructions? Thanks for any advice! Subscriber and First time "commentor"