Regieleki being so fast that it actually outspeeds trick room is some wally west level shit
@yoshimeier30609 ай бұрын
So if you have 8000 speed - does that effect electroball damage?
@jellycore13169 ай бұрын
@@yoshimeier3060OH GOD Imagine, though! XD
@CrystalKitty12209 ай бұрын
Wasn't he the slowest one?
@teguhimamsetiawan34899 ай бұрын
@@CrystalKitty1220 no, my dude, he's the fastest one
@CrystalKitty12209 ай бұрын
@@teguhimamsetiawan3489 Ah. Sorry, I've only watched Young Justice.
@VGV1deo9 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: all the Pokémon that do manage to beat trick toon get put into basically their own separate trick room, so that 1812 Excadrill would move before the 2192 Regieleki
@TylerjWebb9 ай бұрын
That's so interesting. Thanks for pointing that out.
@nicholsethanen9 ай бұрын
If the bug works the way freezai explained in this video, then this makes literally 0 sense that it would be true
@meltysnow91379 ай бұрын
@@nicholsethanen Why not? Excadrill's speed under trick room would be 10000-1812=8188, while Regieleki's would be 10000-2192=7808
@VGV1deo9 ай бұрын
@@nicholsethanen In Trick Room, an 1812 speed Excadrill has effectively 8188 speed while the 2192 Regieleki has 7808, meaning Excadrill would go first, does this explain it?
@Bea5rs9 ай бұрын
@@nicholsethanendid you not understand the video
@metawolf9879 ай бұрын
Regieleki is a certified Speed Force user.
@watupbro8719 ай бұрын
YO THATS A COOL ABILITY NAME (Speed Force)
@watupbro8719 ай бұрын
YO THATS A COOL ABILITY NAME (Speed Force)
@blaquephyrekendra17799 ай бұрын
IT WAS ME, BARRY!!! 😈
@TheDeathmail9 ай бұрын
He's literally lightning... as in, the speed force itself...
@klinkklark2559 ай бұрын
*A certified 13 bit overflow user*
@Kailova079 ай бұрын
To have a value overflow problem because the value DOESN’T overflow is a very GameFreak programming move. 7.8/10 needs more overflow
@A39pro22 күн бұрын
This is a reference that you'll f Need to know to know
@spun19302 күн бұрын
I think there might be too much water in the coding
@Dell-ol6hb3 сағат бұрын
Gamefreak’s programming of these games historically has always been very wonky, idk what’s going on but it’s been this way since Gen 1, the only reason I can think of is that because they rush theses games out as quickly as possible, oftentimes they only have a year or so to develop the games
@castform79 ай бұрын
Slowbro: how, how are you going this fast. This is supposed to be my domain. Regieleki: Fool! You merely tampered with something I mastered. I am the essence of the very speed you wish to alter.
@Milolaidus9 ай бұрын
Your speed is only temporary, mine builds for eternity.
@aegisScale9 ай бұрын
"I am four parallel universes ahead of you, Slowbro."
@josoares62849 ай бұрын
Most epic comment ever.
@samueljo79109 ай бұрын
I have already swept through multiple alternate VGC tournaments in this time
@the_reptilian_researcher_3606 ай бұрын
Regieleki: You think trick room is your ally. You merely adopted the trick room. I was born in the trick room.
@madduxnagel69359 ай бұрын
“The opposing Slowbro twisted the dimensions!” Regieleki: "I recognize that the council has made a decision, but given that it’s a stupid-ass decision, I’ve Elekted to ignore it.”
@scipocelah66779 ай бұрын
"I've Elekted to ignore it." ftfy
@madduxnagel69359 ай бұрын
@@scipocelah6677 Fixed.
@bigfudge20319 ай бұрын
Regieleki: "You are in this trick room, but we do not grant you the ability to move first" Slowbro: "How can you do this? This is outrageous! It's unfair! How can you *be* in the trick room and *not* move first?
@madduxnagel69359 ай бұрын
@@bigfudge2031 Take a seat, young Slowbro.
@raidev_9 ай бұрын
I've regielekted
@kamishin71359 ай бұрын
Slow Bro: "Domain Expansion TRICK ROOM" Regieleki: "Ah yes, my Anti Trick Room technique, I haven't used it since the Heian Era. It's called moving really fast"
@theholyknight94909 ай бұрын
Pretty much a simple domain
@antiskyze9 ай бұрын
hollow wicker basket
@atheontimesconflux10679 ай бұрын
Regileleki and his domain expansion: Malevolent SPD. Stat.
@Omegod14557 ай бұрын
Regilecki used Screw You, I’m Sped, It was super effective!*
@altu85906 ай бұрын
@@theholyknight9490 it's not even remotely close
@calvinnguyen18709 ай бұрын
Obviously this would never happen in a real competitive setting, but I think it’s really fitting that Regieleki is able to do so. It’s just another thing that can be added to the list of this mon’s heinous war crimes.
@hippopolove9 ай бұрын
1:53 This isn't a tournament here ? He said real battle
@admiralpotato18098 ай бұрын
@@hippopolovethats a showdown tournament at lvl 100. Vgc is generally played at lvl 50s
@heavymetalsazabi8 ай бұрын
Its stupid but you can baton pass +3 to a scarf eleki under tailwind and hit 2k speed so beat up whims with tail wind into a rattled mon with baton pass isn't impossible...
@presidenttogekiss6359 ай бұрын
realistically, Ninjask is the one most likely to reach that, since it has 160 base speed and buffs it every turn.
@hiimemily9 ай бұрын
Math checks out, a max investment Jolly Ninjask has 460 speed, so at +6 it reaches 1840.
@presidenttogekiss6359 ай бұрын
Yeah, if we´re talking a common sub protect ninjask (maybe an Anything Goes baton pass team) vs a Trick Room team, ninjask could easily use protect and substitute to stall trick room turns, only to end up outspeeding even in trick room as Speed Boost reaches +6@@hiimemily
@jamesfeng249 ай бұрын
if we're talking realistically ninjask is literally never going to be used in VGC nor will it last long enough to even get to +6. and there ain't nobody using baton pass ninjask in natdex ubers lmao.
@cryochick90449 ай бұрын
Ehh You need Jolly doubtable any ninjask is going to run Jolly when they can protect turn 1 instead So you'd need a faster mon to be passed to, so deoxys speed potentially could do it hits 459 without Jolly, but then if you're baton passing buffs why pass it to a deoxys speed? I think honest a DOU rapid spin mon on an tailwind team are the most likely canidates to do this. In singles and vgc it likely will never happen.
@tbone60329 ай бұрын
@@jamesfeng24this is way harder to do in VGC because the mons are level 50 so the speed is much lower. A plus 6 regieleki wouldn’t even pass 1809
@Zeecarver7 ай бұрын
The fact Game Freak uses both 10000 - Speed AND 8192 overflow calculation in an age where games are taking up gigabytes of space anyway is truly an example of workarounds that should have been fixed a decade ago.
@SnakebitSTI2 ай бұрын
It's classic Game Freak. Instead of doing something like having Trick Room change the turn order comparison from greater speed goes first to lesser speed goes first, or using the normal method of determining turn order then reversing the list, they did greater of (10000 - speed) % 2^13 goes first. It's arbitrary, it's not the most sensible way to do it, and it introduces a bug, and that's just Game Freak's approach to mechanics in general.
@the_yusuf6364Ай бұрын
Its similar like using some bugs in some games you can get above level 100 pokemon but in limit it loops around and again be level 1. L forgot the limit bar but u can find from some little search
@sailor5853Ай бұрын
@SnakebitSTI That's how you make quality Italian pasta code.
@Dell-ol6hb3 сағат бұрын
That’s classic Gamefreak, they’ve been trash at programming since Gen 1, it’s honestly impressive that these kinds of bugs still exist, but I guess that’s what happens when you rush the development of these games as much as possible.
@10Gpixels9 ай бұрын
I love this glitch. It's like the Pokemon goes so unfathomably fast, they break the binding of trick room itself.
@Glubnub5 ай бұрын
I feel like this shouldn’t be patched, as it isn’t that game breaking and could be used in creative ways
@senny-2 ай бұрын
@@GlubnubI wish the this will be acknowledged in the anime itself
@Skullhawk132 ай бұрын
@@senny-has trick room ever shown up in the anime?
@senny-2 ай бұрын
@@Skullhawk13 yeah look up Ash vs Conway
@Skullhawk132 ай бұрын
@@senny- I’ll just believe you, I’m probably not gonna remember
@doctorreed_9 ай бұрын
this is some fucking wally west shit
@dasaiyantv84839 ай бұрын
Regieleki is basically Wally when the writers decided to make it canon that he's "faster than the Speed Force" itself
@cadetsparklez33009 ай бұрын
isnt time travel more the reverse flashes thing?
@Buggy_DClown9 ай бұрын
@@cadetsparklez3300it’s every flash’s thing tbh
@sethb30909 ай бұрын
@@cadetsparklez3300it's more that reverse flash is the one irresponsible enough to actually do it and leave the consequences to be someone else's problem.
@scylla17729 ай бұрын
The world is Wally's trick room, and he's the slowest man in existence
@natlus_9 ай бұрын
Bonus info: 1809 is the optimal speed for trick room, anything faster will go after it. You can keep using mod 8192 to work out anything above 8192, it will keep the same properties. The highest possible speed possible in-game with no modding/hacking is 13152 (i posted a video on this account doing it). 13152 mod 8192 is 4960 which is the effective speed stat of that pokemon and because it is above 1808 it still outspeeds trick room.
@U2B4U9 ай бұрын
So this is what Goku did to Hit
@unlimitedlimiter42859 ай бұрын
I literally said in my head regieleki really thinks he's jiren breaking out of hit's time cage
@-libertyprimev1-9026 ай бұрын
Basically, through that's more of an effect tied to Dragon Ball's power system in general, if the Attack Potency is extreme enough it can neg the opponent's techniques/effects. Think Vegeta overpowering Topo, Jiren pushing against Hit, Kale breaking that dimensional barrier, of course Goku blitzing Hit, the list goes on.
@metarex0006 ай бұрын
Wow so Goku was a hacker all along
@donovangunther45383 ай бұрын
@@-libertyprimev1-902 "Dragon Ball's power system" lmao
@Gift_Of_Victory8 күн бұрын
@@-libertyprimev1-902 Yeah, it's kind of funny, sort of like everything is touching everything else, so if you have enough power you can push back against everything. Though, of course, you do have to know about where to aim. Honestly, this whole aspect of DBZ is best demonstrated in how Instant Transmission works. You can go anywhere, but only if you've experienced the anywhere in question.
@1000Tomatoes9 ай бұрын
That's a really cool glitch I have no issue with it staying. Being able to outspeed trick room is such anime nonsense I love it.
@THEFRISKIESTDINGO9 ай бұрын
Mash vs Abyss energy
@nope67929 ай бұрын
Ikr!?!! Plus, I can totally see Pokemon doing something like that with Ash since it would be the kind of strategy he would pull off with no plan whatsoever.
@Lou-yf1jo9 ай бұрын
wdym the anime makes perfect sense
@anghainguyen99518 ай бұрын
@@nope6792well he break trisk room in XY using Hawlucha X-Scissor so i guess the move make Hawlucha go over 2000 speed lol :v
@nope67928 ай бұрын
@@anghainguyen9951 Omg, I forgot about that LMAO. I guess they already used that bit.
@InanamGames9 ай бұрын
I like the idea of that the speed barrier is actually the minimun speed you need to bend space and time around you, so if you are fast enough you straight up ignore any space and time shenanigans like trick room.
@plaguekidd69029 ай бұрын
This is the most anime deus ex machina tom-foolery I’ve seen in a Pokémon game
@BudewFan_Ай бұрын
Ash literally tried this in one episode lmao, tried to make talonflame out speed trick room with flame charge, didn’t work but he still won
@empireyouth5791Ай бұрын
I remember there was an episode where ash told Pikachu to attack the truck room and it actually worked
@SJrad9 ай бұрын
Regieleki: “i am 4 parallel universes ahead of you”
@sunwooryu95889 ай бұрын
I like how showdown implemented the trick room exactly how it is in the actual game
@jimbb9 ай бұрын
By design, showdown is supposed to be an exact simulation of the main game, so that means any glitch that is in the main game will also be present in showdown so it stays an exact simulator lol
@themanbehindyou.2169 ай бұрын
That's one thing that is great about Showdown. Their intention is not to make pokemon battling better, but to make pokemon battling *easier.* It's the same pokemon battling from the games, just made really, really comfortable
@Aquilenne9 ай бұрын
@@jimbb Most known glitches at least. IIRC there have been glitches that they accidentally patched out because the weren't discovered for ages. e.g. gen 1 same type secondary effect immunity. I think the Acid Rain glitch isn't on the official ladder for its gen either (but is optionally available in customs).
@petelee24779 ай бұрын
@@jimbbdoes a pretty poor job considering acid rain is not present.
@mrziiz68937 ай бұрын
@@petelee2477ah yes let me melt my gameboy
@skyguysZ9 ай бұрын
This reminds me of Ash vs. Valerie in the XY anime. His talonflame was under trickroom against one of valerie’s pokemon and his strategy was to stall it out by using flame charge to go faster… under trick room. Ash was cooking something back then and no one realized it…
@anghainguyen99518 ай бұрын
He break it using Hawlucha later on lol
@skyguysZ8 ай бұрын
@@anghainguyen9951 yup, by using momentum from gyro ball to launch hawlucha onto one of the trick room walls and perform x-scissor to smash it
@incarnation_of_immortality34227 ай бұрын
Slowbro: I am speed now. *Activates Trick Room* Regieleki: That was merely my Afterimage.
@MelodyBarrens9 ай бұрын
Regieleki: I'm the fastest. Slowbro: I used trick room. Regieleki: I'M THE FASTEST!
@renatoramos88349 ай бұрын
Change that to "DID I STUTTER?"
@SuperSdm79 ай бұрын
Funnily enough outspeeding trick room can be semi-reliably triggered. However this only really applies in level 100 doubles formats. All you need is pelipper and a swift swim user that has agility (or anything that gives a +2 speed boost) and base speed above 54. In 1 turn, you can use a +2 speed boosting move on the swift swim user and tailwind on pelipper to guarantee a trick room outspeed. (Only caveat is the the swift swim user must be max speed invested)
@Kayther339 ай бұрын
i think this is a great thing and is my head canon that is not a glitch, literally if you are too fast you can outspeed trickroom itself
@senny-9 ай бұрын
I think this is why Gamefreak never fixed. It became this cool Easter Egg.
@hankboog4629 ай бұрын
It makes me imagine a scene of regieleki getting caught in trick room, freezing for a second, and then vibrating intensely as the trick room shatters and it continues to zip around
@ahkwaheart9 ай бұрын
@@hankboog462that's so silly omg
@jaykhobrekar36199 ай бұрын
Yeah I also like to believe that. Imagine how cool it would be in anime
@gogetablue9429 ай бұрын
Jiren lookin ass
@stevenleonmusic2 ай бұрын
"Should we just change this greater-than symbol to a less-than symbol?" "No! Wait, I have an awesome idea involving a lot of math!"
@OatmealTheCrazyАй бұрын
Or just reverse a list of 4 elements lol or set the speed = to 8000-SPD
@Dell-ol6hb3 сағат бұрын
@@OatmealTheCrazy You should already know this is too advanced for the programming team at Gamefreak
@fellow99399 ай бұрын
so instead of taking the calculated turn order and going in reverse; something that's trivial to program, the devs decided to abuse an integer overflow to make trick room work? what kind of 4AM sleep-deprived over-engineered solution is that? what, so you wouldn't have to manually account for priority moves or something?
@blazechaos2129 ай бұрын
Pretty much yeah
@VideoGamer1109 ай бұрын
I'd imagine it's to factor in moves that would change a speed stat/turn order mid-turn, like tailwind?
@EinMarchen9 ай бұрын
now gamefreak has a reason to justify their lazy game updates and lack of pokemon animations, they all use their resources programming trick room
@iridium1379 ай бұрын
They could also just do 8191-speed instead of 10000-speed. Same concept, except much harder to glitch.
@Kiddragon69 ай бұрын
Worse. They set up a quick fix to make Trick Room work, accidentally caused an overflow, realized it did not really cause issues, and never bothered to fix it. Even while keeping their current solution, the easy fix would be to substract the speed by 8192 instead of 10000. They are just that lazy, and the fact this bug stayed untouched for now 5 gens is baffling.
@d0rkl0rd929 ай бұрын
the worst bit is that this is literally so easy to fix just make their new speed 8192 - their old speed instead
@GeorgeDCowley9 ай бұрын
Would a negative speed break the game?
@d0rkl0rd929 ай бұрын
@@GeorgeDCowley speed can underflow in the same way that it overflows
@GeorgeDCowley9 ай бұрын
@@d0rkl0rd92 OK, that matters.
@fionat.64119 ай бұрын
Makes you wonder why they blatantly put 10000 in there instead of thinking about that for a second
@MercuryA20009 ай бұрын
They could also just- set the turn order calculation to reverse when trick room is up. It can't be that hard to implement.
@nightshockplayz58949 ай бұрын
So when Ash was trying to use flame charge in trick room, he was actually trying to achieve this LMAO...
@sanjayrajasreeraja34563 ай бұрын
i had the same thought
@ChipDrewPog9 ай бұрын
And with this implementation, when multiple pokemon outspeed trick room, the one who goes first is the one who's speed is the closest to 8192, so after you pass the speed barrier you go right back around to using the trick room principle of "more speed = slower" again. Outspeeding trick room is like achieving a secret priority bracket of 0.5. Which also turns out to unlock the 1.5, 2.5 so on and so forth.
@TheCrazyhusky9 ай бұрын
The trouble of being faster than light is that you live in darkness.
@TheInfinityMaster17 ай бұрын
Regieleki: "I have SURPASSED the speed of light! Your Trick Room shenanigans is NOTHING!"
@MagDrag1239 ай бұрын
Regieleki with Agility is like my uncle in the car with alcohol
@Birdsflight449 ай бұрын
lol those were.... times, weren't they
@jaythephoenix9 ай бұрын
Regieleki: "Sigh. Guess we're doing this. MADE IN HEAVEN."
@metarex0006 ай бұрын
He's not from Jojo xDD
@geneinigoemmanuelvalonzo13305 ай бұрын
Regieleki is the only one that can reach Pucci
@WishMakers9 ай бұрын
This is interesting because I believe when Freezai had just started out on KZbin he had taught me about the Speed Barrier break in the first place. Nice to see an effective remake
@kannan078 ай бұрын
Itd be cool if this was made canon to the lore,and honestly,it would be pretty epic if the creation trio were also able to negate trickeoom, because like What does change in the dimensions of a small field matter to the ones that rule over all dimensions
@Anewidedtity9 ай бұрын
Slowbro used trick room! Regieleki doesn't care! *Obliterates slowbro*
@bradensmith86829 ай бұрын
Slowbro: "Regileki is a wimp!" Regileki: "Yes, but I'm fast!"
@machina59 ай бұрын
"Exactly 1809 or above" is so funny
@dingus7489 ай бұрын
We're going back to Gen.1 stat overflow glitches oh my god.
@McLovin-by2mf9 ай бұрын
Surprising how this is still in the game if it has been found out long ago. Just rewrite the code of Trick Room so it subtracts the original speed from 8192 and you can dismiss that whole buisness with subtracting 8192 if the number is greater. That fix literally takes 5 minutes at best. And its not like any Pokemon could reach 8192 speed anyways. Max speed Regileki with +6 boost and scarf with tailwind up still has less than 8192 speed, so even in that case the fix would check out.
@chrisjohnsen84489 ай бұрын
It probably hasn't been fixed because there is no need. Like it was said in the video, the circumstances it comes up are so hyper specific there is only one known instance of it happening on accident.
@kubomagico88539 ай бұрын
Regieleki at level 100 with max speed ivs and evs, speed boosting nature, +6 speed, choice scarf, tailwind and with it's ability swapped to swift swim under the rain has an speed equal to 13152
@kubomagico88539 ай бұрын
Did more research and Floatzel reaches 8664 and Barraskewda reaches 9792 They don't even need to switch abilities to break the game even with your idea
@lunascapes9 ай бұрын
@@kubomagico8853nice find!
@tezminator9 ай бұрын
The thing is that Trick Room is normally not seen on playthroughs of the game, so it's pretty much a competitive move only. And even on competitive, it's mainly on VGC battles ruleset instead of Smogon's ruleset, which, thanks to the level 50 of all pokemon in VGC, makes it impossible to happen in regular VGC battle and even specific gimmick teams to try this also wont work because it takes too many turns to set up.
@the_reptilian_researcher_3606 ай бұрын
Regieleki: You think trick room is your ally. You merely adopted that speed. I was born with it.
@dany_fg6 ай бұрын
The funniest thing about it is that multiplying the speed by -1 will do the trick (room) better, as slower speed is closer to 0 and thus greater. Example: 100 vs 250 speed -100 is bigger than -250 and thus will move faster
@ShivaniGupta-wx8gc3 ай бұрын
Or they could do 8192-pokemon speed
@pokelordomega17019 ай бұрын
and here I thought trick room was literally reading the move order in reverse. this is certainly an interesting overflow glitch
@aquacustom.9 ай бұрын
Love myself some modular arithmetic nonsense. Great vid
@olbericeisenburg96805 ай бұрын
2:31 my favorite anime
@Ajthur64773 ай бұрын
Wild
@GLIZZURD2 ай бұрын
GOATED comment
@someguy84542 ай бұрын
@@GLIZZURDnah that shit mid
@krishparwani2039Ай бұрын
I hate the fact that I got it so faast
@ForgermancontentАй бұрын
What
@binarycat12379 ай бұрын
the interesting thing is that speed is not stored in a regular integer size is that an unsigned 15 bit integer? if it was signed with 16 bits it would still overflow around 8k, but it would overflow to a negative number.
@volbla9 ай бұрын
log2(8192) is 13, so i guess it's 13 bits. A lot of data in pokemon games seem to be in these strange custom formats. Maybe that was necessary to fit these large worlds on the original handheld console games, but it's kinda weird that they're still doing it.
@shanesnover40489 ай бұрын
The data in Gen 4 was likely a 16-bit number with the remaining 3 bits encoding priority in some way for the engine to determine turn order.
@delta32449 ай бұрын
@@shanesnover4048 Priority sets the highest bits as if they were flags, and then no more work is needed because everything's already ordered correctly. That makes sense, save that priority ranges from -7 to +5, which is 13 values, which is 5 more than can be stored in 3 bits. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if you're close to the mark. (edit - accidentally posted this reply before I finished writing it)
@shikutoai9 ай бұрын
I’d hazard a guess at there being a checksum and/or parity check?
@immortalstar01382 ай бұрын
When a glitch ends up making the game mythos more accurate and lore friendly.
@Claudiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa9 ай бұрын
Babe wakeup freezai just uploaded
@ethansedai8702 ай бұрын
Regieleki: "I am four parallel universes aheof you."
@P1nkNebula7 ай бұрын
Regieleki: 3 turns… you were late by 3 turns
@Fiyaaaahh2 ай бұрын
Funnily enough the fastest pokemon in trick room is the pokemon that exceeds the speed barrier with the smallest possible overshoot. A x6 speed Regieleki will be slower than a x4 speed Regieleki.
@spamtong.spamton84169 ай бұрын
Regieleki is simply built different.
@MegaLEEDLE9 ай бұрын
now we just gotta wait for the terminal montage video on this glitch like the Mario v Fox video except it's mario v Regieleki
@tiaguinho_samba9 ай бұрын
you have done a video about that haven't you? i remembered this glitch one of this days and thied to find your video but just couldn't to find the explanation for that
@quijassajiuq9008 ай бұрын
This is like Archie Sonic being able to move in stopped time
@Kalenz12349 ай бұрын
You could say it's speed was OVER 8000!
@Akari-br7ci6 ай бұрын
This is the equivalent of the Flash outrunning instantaneous teleportation. "It doesn't matter how fast you are, with this move I'll still get there first" "I'm so fast that it doesn't even matter!"
@danielhale19 ай бұрын
I love finding byte overflows, math glitches, and edge cases like this. My favorite though will always be MissingNo, which gave me free items and was just frick'n bizarre to fight. Mine evolved into a Kangaskhan that knew Sky Attack. Pokemon Stadium did NOT like this when I imported it.
@dukemagus9 ай бұрын
Slowbro uses trick room. Regieleki: Trix are for kids.
@nomatyx57899 ай бұрын
I’ve always wondered why they didn’t implement trick room by getting the fastest speed currently on the field, and determining new speed by subtracting fastest speed minus current speed. Simply recalculate every time a pokemon with higher speed switches in, or when a boosting move is used
@Qbe_Root9 ай бұрын
Or just subtract everyone's speed from 8192 instead of 10000
@Qbe_Root9 ай бұрын
@@MattressGuy Well at that point the Pokémon's normal speed overflows and becomes really low, and Trick Room would only stay consistent with that
@ottovonbismuth9 ай бұрын
This is actually a really interesting glitch because it has been left in intentionally by Game Freak. The fix would be as simple as lowering the trick room starting speed from 10000 to 8000. So Game Freak has to have thought this was cool enough to not fix.
@Lialvas9 ай бұрын
honestly, this is the type of glitch you can call a feature and just leave in game. Its not like it has severe consequences, infact its pretty neat and cool.
@elec06YT9 ай бұрын
This is so interesting, trick room makes regieleki (after the speed buffs) so slow that it gets ignored, leading to it being extremely fast it’s astonishing
@tysonvienneau18309 ай бұрын
What I've learned: Math is scarier than ever
@richarddakazo28787 ай бұрын
It's always cool to peel back the illusions and see the glue and crayons that hold games together
@UltraRogue.9 ай бұрын
Ah yes The particle accelerator
@KnucklesAndBig9 ай бұрын
I think the easiest fix would be to implement something like an "Initiative Order" like in DND. The Pokemon are placed in order based on their speed stat, which could be changed upon a stat change getting triggered, then when Trick Room gets used the order is just reversed until the Trick Room ends
@MelonSeedOfficial9 ай бұрын
The only thing that can hold Regieleki is his movepool variety
@kalarse7 ай бұрын
I love how I "knew" about the overflow, but never how just how Trick Room calculated speed, now makes even more sense in the Game Design and how this probably is an oversight that is never expected to happen in a real setting
@ktvx.949 ай бұрын
Someone needs to bring this to a regional or something and pull it off on stream to get the attention of the devs along with somd chuckles.
@ashleythompson8019 ай бұрын
Really difficult to do in any official event because VGC is played at level 50 instead of level 100, I'm sure that there's still some extremely weird theoretical set of circumstances that could get a level 50 pokemon past the speed barrier but it's a whole buttload harder than just clicking agility on eleki a few times.
@Worsterest7 ай бұрын
@@ashleythompson801 its as simple as a +4 speed scarf barraskewda in rain i just tested it
@darkbluemoon2116 ай бұрын
I choose to ignore your reality and substitute my own
@mspotato1389 ай бұрын
Hm, so the fix they would have to implement is literally to replace the number 10000 in the trick room code with 8192, in order to prevent the overflow.
@thejuggernautofspades94538 ай бұрын
"That magnet wasnt put there to make me think you could move... but to make me think you couldnt"
@blazingkite89838 ай бұрын
"Wouldnt it be easier to just check who has the higher speed and who has the slowest and force them into a fixed, unchangable new value of 5 000 and the other set to 1?" "nah lets just use the overflow to our advantage for mechanic purposes cuz that sounds hella funni"
@chebi977 ай бұрын
No, that is terrible cause it doesn't account for other pokemons coming in. The issue is they decided to subtract from 10000 buuut they also have overflow, so they rely on those 2 operations occurring, a speed big enough to not trigger the overflow after the subtraction causes the bug.... soooo why not just subtract from that top speed. There was no need to introduce another magic number (10000)
@crackedblack1410Ай бұрын
So Regieleki is basically Sonic, who almost matches time itself
@Arcana_zero_studios9 ай бұрын
Someone finna whip this shit out in VGC and the trick roomer gonna go crying to the ref.
@KYLEandALEX6 ай бұрын
i wish this would be implemented in several Pokémon fanfics
@SuperEljafru9 ай бұрын
back when gen 9 doubles released ursaluna, it was common to lead Cresselia + Ursaluna on the lower end of the ladder. my response to this was to use agility basculegion and tailwind pelipper to set up the trick room glitch on TURN 1. and it managed to catch a lot of people off guard
@philippefutureboy73489 ай бұрын
First video I watch from you: Instant sub! I love to see all of these obscure rules and understand how they can be used to create surprises in matches 😄
@Vexal509 ай бұрын
I'd hesitate to call this a glitch. An oversight, sure, but everythings working as intended, the in-game text just doesn't match with how the move works
@marowakcity37279 ай бұрын
I think the funniest thing about this glitch to me is that it would in all likelihood take literally 2 seconds to fix. Just change it from 10,000-x to 8,192-x
@naphackDT7 ай бұрын
That's basically just a bit flip and, depending on the chip instruction set of the hardware, might actually be faster to compute than the current code... Though the most you'd save would be the step of having to load the value 10000 into the register.
@BlastGamer779 ай бұрын
Slowbro: “You fool! Not even you can match my speed in this room!” Regieleki: “Then I’ll surpass it!”
@amari58869 ай бұрын
I like to imagine that Regieleki quickly runs out of Trick Room's range as the other Pokemon is setting it
@gamesmashdash_76409 ай бұрын
3:34 hang on, hang on; as someone who codes, it wouldn't be hard for coders to just implement a inverse turn order; doing the -10000 is just stupid.
@Kirbycrasher27469 ай бұрын
In summary; regieleki harnesses the speedforce and breaks time/turn order
@gothified9 ай бұрын
i swear you already made a video on this topic before? maybe i’m tripping but i remember you making a video on the interaction between agility regieleki and trick room.
@randall26659 ай бұрын
I remember this, too
@Wifi_Cable9 ай бұрын
Glad to see the hilariously broken code practices of gen 1 aren't totally removed.
@soniablanche56729 ай бұрын
for the nerds: 2^13 = 8192
@byrontheusurper65052 ай бұрын
I had no clue about this, this is so crazy!
@alexandremenino20069 ай бұрын
why would they program it like that?? why is it (10000 - speed) intead of (8192 - speed) or (0 - speed) and yes that would work with speed being both signed and unsigned int
@fireemblem69152 ай бұрын
This reminds me when you to any extreme end of anything in physics and stuff just starts breaking rules.
@yeetuszilla16639 ай бұрын
Honestly this should stay as a feature. It's like the Pokemon's so fast trick room just can't keep up
@potatoheadpokemario19317 ай бұрын
I like the idea that pokemon can outspeed trickroom being canon
@ChrissyMIsBack9 ай бұрын
If your playing Double Ubers, lead with magearna and a tailwind setter. Shift gear magearna turn 1 and tailwind as well. Turn 2 baton pass into choice scarf calyrex shadow and boom you got the glitch
@MystaAlex5 ай бұрын
Wait that goes insanely hard though that hes so fast he can outspeed trick room
@rebeccadavis31859 ай бұрын
MADE IN HEAVEN
@thelegendaryascendingdrago4428Ай бұрын
Slowbro: _uses Trick Room_ Regieleki: Time-space laws, prepare to be ignored!
@jesuisunstroopwafel9 ай бұрын
GOTTA GO FAST
@joseantoniorodrigueslopes69798 ай бұрын
1:57 "a play was playing a game *BACK* in *GENERATION 8* "💀
@AllBladesCut9 ай бұрын
This sounds like Gen 2 marowak all over again but a positive outcome instead. (If u gave a thick club marowak to many atk EVs and then used swords dance it’s atk stat would roll over the maximum of 999 and end up being some hilariously small number like 5 or something)