Friday Freakout: Double Malfunction, Skydiver's Main Parachute Entangles With Reserve Parachute!

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@TEEMsky 9 ай бұрын

*WHAT HAPPENED* This jumper had been attempting a wingsuit rodeo with a buddy. (Given that he said "attempt," we're guessing it didn't go too well!) When it came time to deploy his main, he pitched his pilot chute, but nothing happened! He reached for his risers, realized they weren't there and went to perform his emergency procedures. It appears he may have pulled his reserve handle, then as it was deploying, pulled his cutaway handle. His main parachute then entangled with the deploying reserve parachute. He ended up having to fight to get back to the dropzone, but fortunately made it and landed on the edge of the grass with no injuries. *WHY DID IT HAPPEN* Packing Error This jumper stated he believes that while packing his parachute he didn't cock the pilot chute all the way and also forgot to check the window to ensure. We're not sure if he was in a rush, got complacent, or just plain forgot, but he believes that's why his pilot chute didn't inflate enough to pull the pin on his main. Emergency Procedures There has been a long-standing debate about EP's when it comes to a pilot chute in tow. The USPA SIM states, "For a pilot-chute-in-tow malfunction, there are currently two common and acceptable procedures, both of which have pros and cons." The first procedure is to immediately deploy the reserve and be prepared to cutaway. The second procedure is to "Cut away, then immediately deploy the reserve. Because there is a chance the main parachute could deploy during or as a result of the reserve activation, a cutaway might be the best response in some situations." *HOW COULD IT BE PREVENTED* Diligence and Gear Checks Over the years we've probably written about these issues a hundred different ways. At the end of the day, it boils down to being diligent in your packing procedures, taking your time, not rushing, not skipping steps, and not letting yourself get distracted while packing your gear. There were also two different times at which diligence should have caught an uncocked pilot chute before the jumper got on the plane. First, he would have noticed it had he taken an extra two seconds to check the window on his bridle. Second, a buddy should have noticed the lack of color in the window during gear checks and asked, "Hey, are you sure you cocked your pilot chute?" Know, Practice, and Follow Your EP's As noted before, there are two different options with a pilot chute in tow. If you follow Option 1 (Pull Reserve, Prepare for Cutaway) you increase the chance that your reserve will deploy cleanly but need to be ready to cutaway in case the opening shock of the deployment jostles your main out of the container. If you follow Option 2 (Cutaway and Immediately Deploy Reserve) you lessen the chance of an entanglement between your main and reserve. *ADDITIONAL NOTES* Container Punch Some jumpers will say - if, and only if, you are aware of your altitude and have time to do so - to try punching the bottom of your container to see if your main will pop out of the container. It's not in the SIM, we're not suggesting people add this to their EP's, but we know that folks are going to see this video and want to talk about that option so we're including it as part of the discussion. Hook Knife? It looks like the main was caught within arms reach of the jumper. Arguably, he could have reached up and used a hook knife to safely get rid of it and been able to land his reserve. Some folks don't have a hook knife on their gear, to which we would respond, "You should. And this is a great example of why." Those who do have a hook knife may argue that, once they knew the main was just trailing behind and not at risk of entangling with the reserve, they wouldn't want to cutaway a few thousand dollars of canopy that they may not be able to find later... but your life, or the medical bills relating to your broken legs/hips/neck/etc. are worth more than a canopy, and that not being able to control your reserve to ensure a safe landing in an open area is exactly the type of thing that can cause those injuries.

@korbiohne3571 9 ай бұрын

He pulled the cutaway first... you can see in slowmo!

@briantruxtonjr.6108 9 ай бұрын

At least he doesn't have to find his main.

@jessetaylor9255 9 ай бұрын

He dose however need to find his cut aways. Super lucky to have got the little flair he did

@subtlename2873 9 ай бұрын

@@jessetaylor9255Dang it, you beat me to the comment lmao

@ewertewert229 9 ай бұрын

Yeah

@MisterIvyMike 8 ай бұрын

God dammit. I thought that will be my joke... 😂

@HenriqueOliveira-of5er 9 ай бұрын

The pilot chute did pull the pin, you can see it at 3:10, but by then the pilot chute was already collapsed and didn't have enough drag to pull the bag out of the container

@oldguyinthesky 9 ай бұрын

I agree, his pilot chute either was not cocked or needed replacing

@SkydiveAtmosfera 9 ай бұрын

@@oldguyinthesky or it was cocked after closing the rig, so has enough lift to pull the pin but later failed to drag the main bag

@burninrubba65 9 ай бұрын

If you had enough lead on the pilot could you roll over and pull it by hand?

@SkydiveAtmosfera 9 ай бұрын

@@burninrubba65 nobody is going to advise such solution.

@jptothetree 9 ай бұрын

PC in tow is a scary one for sure. Like, how does the reserve _not_ get entangled somehow in that situation. Glad he's okay!!

@punkindrublic14 9 ай бұрын

Looks like an uncocked pilot chute caused this whole event... it never properly inflated to deploy the main.

@Dizzyswoops 9 ай бұрын

Nothing out? Alt check. Couple of hard elbows. Still nothing? Alt check. Change position or try reaching back (which will also change position). Nothing? Hard deck? Pull reserve and be ready to deal with two out. Personal opinion, you do you.

@ryanburkill3766 9 ай бұрын

Hard to say what someone will do in a situation like that especially being your first, I haven’t had a cutaway yet so I don’t know how I’d react but definitely everyone’s different

@Dizzyswoops 6 ай бұрын

@@ryanburkill3766 But that’s the point. That’s why it is important to think an drill constantly, especially for common mals like PC in tow.

@anthonydarby4674 9 ай бұрын

I was puckered up for the entire video

@robinmachacek8223 9 ай бұрын

looks like the slider did save you there buddy! great that your good

@thomson1963 9 ай бұрын

Wonderfull Video, So happy to see a Happy Ending ! Such a shame more jumpers don't know how to really set a PilotChute.

@sky173 9 ай бұрын

Nice job keeping your cool. Blue Skies!

@TwilightSun32 9 ай бұрын

"It looks like the main was caught within arms reach of the jumper." - that looks so only in the end when slider lowered more than halfway. Average person usually could reach slightly above the ends of main risers. So when it became probably reachable there were not enought height and time to risk stability before landing. That's how I see it.

@yossi1410 9 ай бұрын

He landed on grass by inches. This was just an accuracy landing with an additional challenge added to it and he nailed it.

@westfinger8630 9 ай бұрын

Ugh, Glad you made it.

@MisterIvyMike 8 ай бұрын

Flying in every style and way makes life really interesting! 😆👍

@TimberTramp 9 ай бұрын

I carry a knife all the time, ALL THE TIME . If not on gear then in a pocket. I wondered why he wasn’t able to climb the riser a bit and cut the hang…looked like he handled it ok. Glad he landed safely. Stay diligent

@camcamwatt 9 ай бұрын

I wondered if people take a knife. Thanks this this comment. My buddies just got into jumping and I want to as well. The more you know. 🫶

@AstralGalaxian 8 ай бұрын

Yes, I have a hook knife on my harness while skydiving. Sometimes two. I practice removing and placing them back in while looking up.@@camcamwatt

@Akegata42 9 ай бұрын

I once had a pilote chute in tow that I fixed by pulling the pilot bridle enough to make the bag leave the container. Not sure if I would recommend doing that, and maybe it's not even physically possible for everyone on every rig, but it certainly saved my day.

@oldguyinthesky 9 ай бұрын

go to reserve... period

@JohnSkyLey 9 ай бұрын

Glad he's okay!

@nedyahforever764 9 ай бұрын

Some people are way too quick to go for that reserve

@mil-fpv4931 9 ай бұрын

Wheres the main chute when he landed? I can only see the reserve.

@ZeroSpawn 9 ай бұрын

It was behind him. Video cuts off when he turned to look at it.

@stebo9780 9 ай бұрын

I think somebody forgot to pull the kill line 😅

@GadMoto 9 ай бұрын

Ой как страшно ему было! Без оценки ситуации дернул сразу всё!) Нет бы взять за стреньгу, попробовать вытащить, контейнер с куполом, да и просто посмотреть что там. Но это не его метод, сразу "жать на все педали".

@shadowcraze90 9 ай бұрын

Something that I noticed that wasnt really mentioned (correct me if im wrong, these are assumptions based on my current understanding) - The reserve was stalling because of the main wrapped around the lines slowing forward movement. It stopped stalling when he released the brakes. - When he released the brakes it looks like the left side didnt go back up all the way due to the pressure of the main knotting up the lines on that side. This could have been MUCH worse if the left toggle was locked down any tighter and didnt eventually work its way back up as he would have been stuck with either a spiraling left turn or stalling all the way to the ground.

@brainycheddar 9 ай бұрын

I don't have much skydiving experience but once while paragliding I had a bad launch with a double line over. (Dehydration=bad decisions). I countered the left turning tendencies with a couple wraps around the right brake handle. I could imagine someone doing the same but also gently tugging the forward risers to lower the AOA (we have a speed bar that does this) bringing the canopy out of a stall. I wouldn't want to be the first person to try it, but intuitively it makes sense so long as you don't collapse the whole canopy in the process.

@SEILLC 9 ай бұрын

Elbows.

@bits_of_bryce 9 ай бұрын

Damn. I feel like they handled it really well. Seems like flying in brakes helped the situation. 🙏

@laurynasgiriunas4780 9 ай бұрын

When you didn't attach a GPS to the main parachute and you are too lazy to look for it after the cut away

@larryloco2868 9 ай бұрын

gotta cock the pilot chute. you can see it that it never inflates if you slow the video down. Good learning experience for the jumper and glad he is okay.

@surpriseofalifetime559 9 ай бұрын

Very critical to cock that pilot chute every time you jump. (Life and Death).

@ProfessorPesca 3 ай бұрын

This is what skydiving in Rama looks like.

@citizenorycle2129 9 ай бұрын

The pin went. Looks like another tight new container strikes again.

@sergeig685 9 ай бұрын

no, the PC is not cocked.

@PaaaPossu 9 ай бұрын

He clearly cuts away first and then deploys his reserve. The resulting main and reserve entanglement is the exact reason that advocates for option 1 emergency procedures. He would've had two out instead and been able to cut away the main cleanly if required.

@andoneandrei8342 2 ай бұрын

I wonder how quick that RSL is deploying the reserve. If you have your main still inside that will deplay the main to fly away so if the RSL is connected that will deploy your reserve almost on the same time with your main flying away. This is one of the nightmare I have on the beginning of the journey(just A licensed).

@yurmom1014 5 ай бұрын

I don't know much about skydiving and canopies but if he were to have a knife, wouldn't he have been able to cut the other canopy once he was stable with the other assuming he could reach it?

@V3RD3V3X 12 күн бұрын

The pilot chute is unbalancing the one open by pulling on one side of the lines, so he can't let go of the commands he must counter the entire flight. And honestly, as long as you can maneuver and are stable in the air just keep it that way until you are on the ground, the lines are very strong and you won't be able to determine which ones are from which canopy, risking cutting the wrong ones...

@zigzaggery1 9 ай бұрын

Omg thats deland!

@renandavilaferrin 9 ай бұрын

It is, that happened to me...

@zigzaggery1 9 ай бұрын

@@renandavilaferrin damn!! I'm glad you're okay! I'm about to head out there now!

@zigzaggery1 9 ай бұрын

I had a line twist recently.. so I now I'm back to packing on my own now. I'm currently still renting, but always went to the packers cause it was faster. But I'm very happy you're jumping another day man!

@renandavilaferrin 9 ай бұрын

@zigzaggery1 thank you mate! I will head that way today as well... let's chat there 🙌

@zigzaggery1 9 ай бұрын

@renandavilaferrin hell yeah man! I'm leaving from gainesville! Sounds good! Imma be in the black ron jon sweatshirt when I get there! Shits gonna be sweet!

@hypsin 9 ай бұрын

Less cameras, more hook knives...

@TEEMsky 9 ай бұрын

Is it too much to ask for more cameras AND more hook knives? 🤣🤷‍♂️

@valderja 9 ай бұрын

Pilot chute not cocked. How does that get missed?

@kingnizard 9 ай бұрын

At least he didn't have to walk for a few hours through weeds and crap to find his main🙃

@liamharding6538 9 ай бұрын

Looks like the pilot chute was not cocked during packing of the main.

@cipresssteph6246 9 ай бұрын

Mais du coup la réserve est partie ? on ne voit plus rien au moment du posé

@alexanderpetrow8668 8 ай бұрын

Kinda the reason I don't like RSL's. Seems like if it had time to clear without deploying it would've been good. Thats just me. Pull high enough to clear.

@stevenpage8847 9 ай бұрын

What a bad ass!

@philipsturtivant9385 9 ай бұрын

Main canopy colour choice - Ukrainian flag. I like it 🤘 Slava Ukraini

@bushflyr7335 9 ай бұрын

Bro, this thing called a "hook knife" exists.

@jacobmalach5175 9 ай бұрын

Hook knife?

@Scarab324 6 ай бұрын

Pilot was killed. He doesnt unkilled him before.

@blueeyedredness 9 ай бұрын

2 out isn’t a true double mal. Pilot chute in tail to entanglement is what it was.

@Holdt_L. 9 ай бұрын

Holy shit

@AN-kr8wy 9 ай бұрын

Медуза основного попала в "тень" и не раскрылась полностью, из-за этого была задержка в раскрытии. Надо было сначала придать телу положение пикирования, при дальнейшей задержке в раскрытии ударить локтями по ранцу. Парень действовал правильно,но уж очень спешил, хотя высоты хватало. Ему здорово повезло.

@ПавелЧистяков-о1ч 9 ай бұрын

Показалось, что медуза просто нерасколлапсированная была.

@dmbD-xu6qi 9 ай бұрын

Не расколапсирована медуза ОП при укладки, мне кажется.

@kdup505 9 ай бұрын

A hook knife could have helped. Definitely looks like you might of been able to reach up and cut those lines with one. Way to keep that reserve flying though man, solid shit.