Friedman Dirty Shirley vs. Small Box - Amp Demo - Sound Differences - Which One Is Right For You

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Brett Papa

Brett Papa

7 жыл бұрын

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@yourmomma6909
@yourmomma6909 6 жыл бұрын
Its what every dude wants a Dirty Shirley with a Small Box lol
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 6 жыл бұрын
Haha!
@yourmomma6909
@yourmomma6909 6 жыл бұрын
I could not help myself lol
@MrGlasstech
@MrGlasstech 3 жыл бұрын
Now that they have dirty Shirley and small box pedals - I'll just buy both of the pedals.
@pwnEdge1
@pwnEdge1 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrGlasstech small box pedal ,game changer for me.turned a Carvin legacy v100 combo into a tone machine .first pedal I found I like in 40 yrs .if you like 80's hair bands, Zepplin, priest , early VH .your'll love it
@KelsterVonShredster
@KelsterVonShredster 2 жыл бұрын
lol good one
@LarsBauer74
@LarsBauer74 7 жыл бұрын
Brett, you're the man! The triple "Welcome" cracks me up every time :D and as always, I love your playing and the tones! thanks for yet another very cool video!
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
No, you are the man! Thanks for checking out the vids!
@JohnnyBGood-ii8kt
@JohnnyBGood-ii8kt 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bret for getting back to me so quick, I'll have to check out your web page. I forgot to mention the Germino 55LV, I had a Club 40 it was great, but at that time the PPIVM had not been available, and now they are.
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 6 жыл бұрын
Germino stuff sounds great too.
@Sonicblue1922
@Sonicblue1922 7 жыл бұрын
look forward to your small box demo. i love mine.
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
+Sonicblue1922 it's a great amp! I'm really digging it! Should be up soon.
@rogeriobley5306
@rogeriobley5306 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another KILLER video! Awesome tone and playing. Now I have a problem... wich one to buy?
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! That's easy, both! Thanks for watching!
@jorgeleonel6663
@jorgeleonel6663 7 жыл бұрын
Rogerio Bley Filho get a Kemper and enjoy both, plenty of great profiles out there. Fantastic sound.
@JohnnyBGood-ii8kt
@JohnnyBGood-ii8kt 6 жыл бұрын
As always love your playing and your reviews on products, I'm in the market for a EL-34 Amp Head, haven't decided weather I'm going back to a Marshall JMP 50 , Or Friedman Small Box, or get a Roy Blankenship Point Blank 50, listen to Tim Pierce do a 10 amp review, and liked it. Love the way you demo amps as you play music I can ID with, and know the sound I'm looking for, as I don't use any pedals, just the amp and the Les Paul, Micheal Tuttle strat, oh I take that back I've been wanting a Dunlop Octavio, when playing my favorite Jimi tunes. Keep going, it must be tough to be a Professional Guitarist in LA, I just got done watching a Netfix's doc on that very subject called HIRED GUN, would recommend it to any player.
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I would do either a Divided by 13 BTR23 or the Friedman Small Box. Both sound great! I have played out and recorded with both and have gotten great results.
@charlesfitzgerald3201
@charlesfitzgerald3201 3 жыл бұрын
both sound fantastic and i know the small box has 2 channels which gives it a huge advantage BUT , which one does the jimi chords the best ?
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 3 жыл бұрын
They both are great. The Shirley comes in a two channel option now too called the Twin Sister. I'd say either one will get you there!
@BigHairyGuitars
@BigHairyGuitars 7 жыл бұрын
I totally didn't recognize Papa without this mustache!
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
+Michael Nielsen Its me :). Thanks for watching!
@Cvweare
@Cvweare 7 жыл бұрын
Killer tones papa. Twas a nice backing track for a bit. Everything from Friedman sounds wonderful, some mighty organic balls.
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
Haha! Thanks for checking it out!
@90sPunkRockCovers
@90sPunkRockCovers 6 жыл бұрын
Man, love that Strat. Was the angled HB ordered through the Custom Shop? and what brand is it?
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 6 жыл бұрын
No it is actually a Bill Nash guitar and my old boss put the Fender sticker on it haha! I put the hum bucker in later and just cut out the hole for it. The pickup is a Lollar Imperial Low Wind.
@90sPunkRockCovers
@90sPunkRockCovers 6 жыл бұрын
papastache102 that’s still a bitching guitar man, it sounds and looks amazing. I’m gassing for a super Strat like that. Love your channel and keep up the good work man!
@malcolm77
@malcolm77 3 жыл бұрын
Great playing. What levels on the amp would be best for AC/DC tone?
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 3 жыл бұрын
Everything at noon is a good place to start!
@emreemre369
@emreemre369 7 жыл бұрын
Hey there, nice demos and playing and the jokes are not bad at all either:) totally enjoying. I am stuck between Sirley mini and Smalbox, wish I could hear how far that bass on the shirley can be eq'ed out or tightened with a pedal etc.. You think pedals into clean Shirley will still retain that huge-bottom character no matter? It would help greatly to know these. And how good does Smallbox sound at apartment playing volumes? Best...
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
+Emre Emre Thanks! Just been messing with a mini and that thing is a beast!! Sounds awesome! Bass response is great and is tight on all of their amps. If you are ever thinking of gigging Small Box might be the call just because of all the options. All of my demos have been recorded at talking level so I'm sure you would have no problems with the neighbors. Let me know if you get one. Can't go wrong with any of them! Thanks for watching!
@roysharon2092
@roysharon2092 6 жыл бұрын
hi the small box sounds amazing! any change for a indepth demo?
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 6 жыл бұрын
Yep coming soon!
@KelsterVonShredster
@KelsterVonShredster 6 жыл бұрын
Dirty Shirley rules !!!!! Crisper tone overall, more bad ass. Good video!
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 6 жыл бұрын
It's hard to beat! Great amp for sure! Thanks for watching!
@PolkaholixVideo
@PolkaholixVideo 7 жыл бұрын
BTW: Bright switch is only for channel 1. The "cleaner" channel.
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
+Polkaholix Video Yeah someone told me that already haha! Full demo coming soon. Thanks for watching!
@DelReiRock
@DelReiRock 6 жыл бұрын
LOL - I'm glad you didn't say anything like "look how the mid position gives more punch"....
@siriusmuse
@siriusmuse 4 жыл бұрын
I am looking for whitesnake sound especially reb beach. Which one do you suggest ? or hughes Kettner Grandmaster deluxe 40 works well for that sound. it is also so much cheaper
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure man. I think the BE-50 Deluxe would get closer to that type of sound. Not sure about the other amp. There is a PRS amp called the Archeon or something like that and it sounds great at a lower price point.
@siriusmuse
@siriusmuse 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrettPapa thank you very much
@djkolcun
@djkolcun Жыл бұрын
Hey Brett, did you ever post the SB demo? You mentioned that a couple times in this vid, but I haven’t been able to find it. Curious minds and all…thanks.
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa Жыл бұрын
Not sure If I ever did a SB demo. Great amp though! I've used it in tons of videos though. Enough to get the idea. I usually was just plugged straight in too.
@TheMmguitars
@TheMmguitars 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Brett, which amp stays longer clean? I like to have a enough clean headroom but can not choose which amp fits best!
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 6 жыл бұрын
They both will get loud and cleanish! Tough call. I have gigged with them both and gotten great results. Can't go wrong with either. If I had to choose Shirley might be a better fit for me. Let me know if you pick one up!
@TheMmguitars
@TheMmguitars 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your response. I tried both, both very cool amps! But I went for the Smallbox😃
@aaronfrontella8963
@aaronfrontella8963 2 жыл бұрын
I have one other question. Does the plexi channel on the smallbox have the same amount of gain as the dirty Shirley?
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 2 жыл бұрын
It gets a good amount. I actually hardly ever used the second channel. Plexi channel has enough.
@charlesycoker
@charlesycoker 4 жыл бұрын
The Dirty Shirley ships with a tube rectifier and has more sag, a looser feel which I personally dig.. haven't tried it with a solid state rectifier but it will for sure tiighten it up.. I wonder if you can put a tube rectifier in the Small Box?
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure. The new Shirley Twin sister amp is really really great! Might be picking one up myself!!
@charlesycoker
@charlesycoker 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrettPapa yeah, my DS40 has been my favorite amp of all time.. two channels? that I can dial in anyway I want? oh crap
@chanceterrill5346
@chanceterrill5346 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrettPapa hell ya man u got too. Your videos is one of the videos that led me to buying my Dirty Shirley. I was in between it the small box. And actually wanted the small box more. But once I played them. It was over with. The Shirley stole my heart. Plus, I'm not even a huge Van Halen fan. And that Dirty Shirley Van Halen tone you have at the end is fucking amazing.
@mark1982arsenal
@mark1982arsenal 6 жыл бұрын
Would be great if you can do an in depth demo of the smallbox & im also intrigued to see what the buxom boost pedal sounds like through it. Love your demo vids, keep them coming Brett 👍🏻
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 6 жыл бұрын
Planning on doing that one soon. I don't have the boost at the moment but I'll see if I can snag another one from Friedman. Thanks for watching!
@Hakujap1
@Hakujap1 3 жыл бұрын
Papastache! Love your vids. You mentioned that you did an indepth video on the smallbox, but I can't find it. Do you have a link? And keep on rockin!
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You know now that you mention it I'm not sure I ever did that one lol! I need to. I'll see if I can bust one out over the next few days.
@Hakujap1
@Hakujap1 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrettPapa Thanks dude! I'm thinking of buying one and can't find one to play over here in Tokyo. They keep getting sold out. May just have to order one from the States. Make sure to dial it in for a little Van Halen when you do it!
@javiceres
@javiceres 4 жыл бұрын
The thing that impresses me most is the master volume being set almost to zero and the amps sounding perfect
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 4 жыл бұрын
Friedman has really got the master volume thing down to a science!
@charlesycoker
@charlesycoker 4 жыл бұрын
definitely
@mikkywhalan
@mikkywhalan 2 жыл бұрын
Dave Friedman voices his amps at low volumes
@mikkywhalan
@mikkywhalan 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely the Dirty Shirley for me. I may get the mini or the twin sister in the future
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 2 жыл бұрын
Great amps! You will did either one! If you can spring for it the Twin Sister is pretty epic!
@alwilliams1997
@alwilliams1997 6 жыл бұрын
Great demo
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 6 жыл бұрын
+Al Williams Thanks!
@Soundstorm81
@Soundstorm81 3 жыл бұрын
This video was the tipping point that made me decide to pull the trigger on a SB50 vs a Silver Jubilee. This is by far the best sounding SB50 video on KZbin. Have you ever gotten a chance to play a set of Fralin Pure PAFs? Wondering how they would compare to the Lollars in your guitar.
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks! No I actually don't think I have ever played any Fralin's although I have heard they are great!
@Thisisrance
@Thisisrance Жыл бұрын
This is the video that made me desire to sell my Silver Jub to buy a Smallbox
@StreetsOfVancouverChannel
@StreetsOfVancouverChannel 7 жыл бұрын
Really fab rhythm riffin', boss :)
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
Thank ya sir!
@phillamoore157
@phillamoore157 2 жыл бұрын
Loving the DS....especially, pushed with the right pedal. When you're setting in front of both amps, the DS seems warmer to my ears. It's such a shame you can't get the DS mini anymore. I've tried several places, and they've been out of stock (for over a year now). But, the DS pushed with a pedal (if needed) sounds better to me than the SB. There are some STUNNING videos of the mini on KZbin getting a spectacular, tight high-gain tone. Wish I could afford a Twin Sister! Great video Papa. Would love to see a great video of you showing some different OD pedals (including the Buxom Boos) with that DS, just to see what kind of pushed, tight 80's tones you could pull out of it. 👍
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 2 жыл бұрын
That is a really great amp in all of the forms.
@aaronfrontella8963
@aaronfrontella8963 2 жыл бұрын
I’m selling mine right now it’s a combo
@phillamoore157
@phillamoore157 2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronfrontella8963 Which model?
@aaronfrontella8963
@aaronfrontella8963 2 жыл бұрын
@@phillamoore157 it’s the mini dirty Shirley combo
@phillamoore157
@phillamoore157 Жыл бұрын
@@aaronfrontella8963 Should sell quick. If you were located in Orlando, FL I'd take it off your hands. They're getting really tough to come by, as of late. Unless, you're getting the full sized one, I'm surprised you're selling it. 👍
@Matan2222222
@Matan2222222 3 жыл бұрын
Which one is better in your opinion for higher modern gain territory? Satriani, Petrucci? Also which Will be closer to EVH sound?
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 3 жыл бұрын
I think Satch actually plays the BE-100 Deluxe. Small box might be the one for you although I would also check out the BE-50 Deluxe for those type of sounds.
@mrcali68
@mrcali68 3 жыл бұрын
Great clip! Question: What pickup do you have in the Strat?
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Lollar Imperial Low Wind in the bridge and Lollar specials in the singles.
@mrcali68
@mrcali68 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrettPapa Thanks! They sound awesome! Tell Lollar you just sold a bridge pickup for them! 😁
@Alrock20s
@Alrock20s 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Brett, may I know what version the vintage 30 in the cab? Chinese or UK?
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 3 жыл бұрын
That was just the Friedman cab with Vintage 30's in it.
@Alrock20s
@Alrock20s 3 жыл бұрын
Brett Papa thanks Brett!
@MrMeik1970
@MrMeik1970 7 жыл бұрын
Nice sounding Amps and Guitar !
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@davebennett919
@davebennett919 5 жыл бұрын
What bridge pickup u got there? Sounds great
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Lollar Imperial Low Wind.
@MrMattsac232
@MrMattsac232 3 жыл бұрын
Dirty Shirley I swear is one of the all time greats. I have the ds mini but it doesn’t hold up to the big one. Different thing without the tube rectifier.
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 3 жыл бұрын
Yep it for sure is one of my favorite amps ever!
@BertieBacon
@BertieBacon 6 жыл бұрын
9:10 what is that piece of music? I have to know
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 6 жыл бұрын
It's the chords to All Along The Watch Tower. Just messing around. Thanks for watching!
@VonBluesman
@VonBluesman 7 жыл бұрын
You sure were right when you said 2017 was going to ROCK !!!
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks! It's going to get even better!
@johnzuker
@johnzuker 4 жыл бұрын
New Twin Sister amp paired with the new Small Box pedal. Best of both worlds??
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much!!! Small box pedal is really good! So is the Golden Pearl I think it’s called.
@brettdiaz
@brettdiaz 7 жыл бұрын
Which do you like better, Friedman or Divided by 13?
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
They are different. Divided by is more open clear to me where as the Friedman's are straight up Marshall style rock. Both are great, that's why I have both :)
@B2Rockin
@B2Rockin 2 жыл бұрын
"Always have to do that song I can't help it", especially on the DS, agreed man! LMAO
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 2 жыл бұрын
Haha!
@x7stringinJSCx
@x7stringinJSCx 11 ай бұрын
Did you ever do the in depth demo on the Smallbox 50?...
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 11 ай бұрын
I don't think I ever did. Great amp though!
@pedrozepelim
@pedrozepelim 6 жыл бұрын
Do all Smallbox owners get that amount of gain and that crispness? Is it just me, or you got to push the master way up to get anywhere close to that amount of gain?
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 6 жыл бұрын
Yes that one is stock. I barely have those amps turned on.
@livingabovethe12th
@livingabovethe12th 5 жыл бұрын
Yes...I have the sb50 and he def has the gains up high and the masters way down. This amp sounds good in any position but master on 10 and pre on 10 on ch 1 is a.c./d.c. perfection. The buxom betty pedal works great on this amp when you start getting the masters above 5...the hpf on the pedal keeps things tight and clear.
@Guitargasm1000
@Guitargasm1000 7 жыл бұрын
Nice amps Brett!
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Wish they were mine haha!
@Guitargasm1000
@Guitargasm1000 7 жыл бұрын
Its OK...you're rocking them just the same.
@troywm1016
@troywm1016 4 жыл бұрын
PapaS you still gonna do the small box review. I'm requesting : )
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 4 жыл бұрын
I need to soon!
@troywm1016
@troywm1016 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrettPapa I noticed the mini dirty shirley demo doesn't quite match up to the 40w.
@julioMiguel2145
@julioMiguel2145 5 жыл бұрын
you should Demo the new Drybell Unit 67 whit this amps!
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 5 жыл бұрын
I know I want to check it out bad! Heard it at NAMM, sounded great!
@thesouthsideshovlerleonard13
@thesouthsideshovlerleonard13 5 жыл бұрын
I see its a Fender guitar but what model?
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 5 жыл бұрын
Its just a Fender Sticker haha! It is a Bill Nash 60's style Strat.
@stoneymelonchillin
@stoneymelonchillin 7 жыл бұрын
They both sound amazing! I would go with the Dirty Shirley just because of the name 😁
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
Haha, she would thank you for it!
@walkinmyshadow1
@walkinmyshadow1 3 жыл бұрын
😂 thing is - I bet Dirty Shirley hasn’t got a Small Box anyway
@reverb508
@reverb508 Жыл бұрын
@@walkinmyshadow1 Ayo!!!
@draper858
@draper858 4 жыл бұрын
I preferred the smallbox. Great video. ;)
@cardbored_
@cardbored_ 3 жыл бұрын
Do what I did and get both!
@mkreple
@mkreple 7 жыл бұрын
Sweet baby jesus 5:40!!!!!!!!
@earsmcmurphy2632
@earsmcmurphy2632 6 жыл бұрын
Still waiting on the in depth Small Box demo/overview
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 6 жыл бұрын
Filming it later in the week.
@earsmcmurphy2632
@earsmcmurphy2632 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Can't wait!
@noahguttell8175
@noahguttell8175 6 жыл бұрын
Any news on the video? I’d love to see it. Thanks!
@gmjones2001
@gmjones2001 6 жыл бұрын
Looked on papa's channel and searched the video list ... see no Small Box Demo .. ??? Said he was filming it later in the week four months ago ... wonder if it didn't turn out well, or got lost in the interwebz. :(
@piedaterre8843
@piedaterre8843 6 жыл бұрын
i have the SB50 and i never even use the 2nd channel. Channel 1 on the SB is a great modern day Plexi amp. My uncle is the original owner of a now vintage marshall 1959 plexi (i believe 68) and we inevitably had to compare them. Other than the speakers (the only thing that pisses me off about friedman's business is all the 2X12s are V30s) being different, the two heads played very close (basically, we tried out both heads with their respective cabinets and then compared both with the friedman cab; via impedance load matcher and then compared both on the old marshal cab G12s 55hrz). I don't know if in the end the V30s are the best match and i have been toying with putting some greenbacks in my friedman 2X12 cab- I respect Dave's knowledge in this arena, indeed it is the only reason that has kept me from making the speaker switch- idk. Tangent aside, the SB50 nails that 1959 plexi sound (i don't trust my own ears, its my uncle's amazement that convinced me; he isn't clapton but he is a great guitarist and has been with that amp for a long time)
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 6 жыл бұрын
I love channel one! So good. Both speaker are great and pretty much the most popular speakers of all time. They have their own speaker coming out which is very good!!! You will have to check one out!
@kirkmulder1599
@kirkmulder1599 4 жыл бұрын
I much agree. I mean I think Dave offers other choices and the 2 V30s are Most popular with hard rock or metal and harder. I don’t care for them outside those contexts. Even for those tones I much prefer the real alnico Celestion options (mainly Cream and Gold) or even greenbacks to knock off alnico ceramic V30s. They do sound better once properly broken in and there are upgraded aftermarket options. Not cheap but modern alnicos are amazingly sweet. Google alnico cream Friedman BE100, for example. 90w handling, 100 DB. Gorgeous in all styles / gain level, . I’m not sponsored just a lover of good tone!!
@moparbryan
@moparbryan 7 жыл бұрын
Man that clean channel on the small box just came alive on the single coils! The humbucker was kinda just there but with the singles she got it right in the sweet spot, very nice!
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
You should hear it with P90's!
@moparbryan
@moparbryan 7 жыл бұрын
papastache102 don't tease me bro' bring the P90 heat! While you're doing that I'm gonna rifle thru the couch cushions for amp money. Seriously though Friedman is THE Mad Scientist of the amp building world. Between him and Suhr there's very little air left in the room.
@wilbstrange2
@wilbstrange2 6 жыл бұрын
What humbucker is in ur strat?
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 6 жыл бұрын
Lollar Imperial Low Wind
@rpmathis
@rpmathis 4 жыл бұрын
I thought you had a tone zone in it...
@kahmhalen4094
@kahmhalen4094 Жыл бұрын
Never played a DS but I own a Smallbox. I love it.
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa Жыл бұрын
Both are fantastic!
@firststep7750
@firststep7750 4 жыл бұрын
The Dirty Shirley is much more open and percussive sounding. Thanks for the comp: it's the DS for me.
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have them both at my house again and they are both amazing but I hear you on the percussive thing. With the ability to crank them both up now it is a very tough call. The Twin Sister version of the Shirley is even better now too!
@firststep7750
@firststep7750 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrettPapa I just found out about the TS. The resonance dial is a critical introduction for me. I love would to see a 50w single channel JEL too:) Looking forward to more comparisons; very helpful.
@blackballoon9258
@blackballoon9258 5 жыл бұрын
Dirty shirley is the beast... true zeppelin sound
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 5 жыл бұрын
Great amp!
@aaronfrontella8963
@aaronfrontella8963 2 жыл бұрын
Which one do you feel is better for Jimmy Page tone?
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmmm, great question. Channel 1 of the Small Box is pretty freakin amazing! Both would do the trick and if it make any difference I found after having both I preferred the Small Box for gigging.
@aaronfrontella8963
@aaronfrontella8963 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrettPapa Thank you for the reply. Right now I have the mini dirty shirley combo and I get really close to that tone, but something about that small box it sounds amazing and just curious if that would get me closer. And great video by the way!
@mertmermerci218
@mertmermerci218 8 күн бұрын
Sounds killer even in very low volumes!
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 8 күн бұрын
Yeah they are great! The new Plex amp is awesome too!
@mertmermerci218
@mertmermerci218 8 күн бұрын
@@BrettPapa I’m in between twin and little sister. Which one would you suggest?
@chanceterrill5346
@chanceterrill5346 4 жыл бұрын
U still have ur dirty shirley?
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 4 жыл бұрын
No, just the small box although I do have my eye on the BE-50 and BE-100 Deluxe lol! Small Jerry Cantrell amp is killer too haha! Can't ever have to many!
@chanceterrill5346
@chanceterrill5346 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrettPapa aww man..... U gotta get a dirty shirley....... I was in between the two n wanted to like the smallbox better...... I seriously tried to convince myself Iiked it better..... But once I a/b tested them the Shirley nailed the sound in my head.... That acdc Zeppelin crunch through Alice in chains crunch, and those are my desired tones where the smallbox seemed more 80s
@paulcowart3174
@paulcowart3174 4 жыл бұрын
They now make a double DS Two heads in one channel switching amp DS twin sister or something
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 4 жыл бұрын
It's a great amp! Messed with it a bunch at NAMM. Fixed the few things I was't so keen on with the first version.
@paulcowart3174
@paulcowart3174 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrettPapa Oh yeah What would that be ? Dave is good at taking player advice I seems
@kirkmulder1599
@kirkmulder1599 4 жыл бұрын
Where’s that in-depth demo of the small box?
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 4 жыл бұрын
Just search on my channel page.
@kirkmulder1599
@kirkmulder1599 4 жыл бұрын
@@BrettPapa Thank you sir! But I don't find a video with just you and the small box like for the dirty Shirley? Looked again, still don't find ? Can you check? Did you delete that one? I am pretty sure a small box is in my future (have a mini Shirley and a BE50). And BTW, I'm always drooling over your Nash strat! Anyway, I bought your course this weekend and went through 9 lessons so far on CAGED (not my first attempt with Caged but I like your approach overall, though I'm not through the stuff I knew already yet, was familiar with pentatonic boxes and major minor application and figured out too that one's licks don't like the others because of resolutions...I mostly have been listening for resolution, but not really being like fully integrating when I find it to be able to master it like I should) Not unhappy at all though, so far, and I get you have to start at the basics. I haven't fully had my light bulb moment yet. I feel it close by though! I'll let you know when the earth moves, brother. Thanks for taking the time! Kirk
@wilbstrange2
@wilbstrange2 6 жыл бұрын
what cab are you playing thru Brett? and if its 212 cab from Friedman your in 8 ohms ?
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 6 жыл бұрын
Yep with Vintage 30's
@mudpuddledive
@mudpuddledive 5 жыл бұрын
The perfect amp for me would be the Small Box with Channel 2 replaced with the dirty Shirley, there I said it!
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 5 жыл бұрын
I think they might be doing something like that at some point.
@mudpuddledive
@mudpuddledive 5 жыл бұрын
@@BrettPapa That would be badass! Thanks to your video, I decided to buy a used Small Box Combo. It was a tough decision!
@jaypelzer
@jaypelzer 4 жыл бұрын
SAME! Currently agonizing over the decision to trade my SB for a DS because I only use channel 1, and feel like I'd get more of my money's worth out of a DS. The decision is killing me!
@MrGruenrock
@MrGruenrock 7 жыл бұрын
The BrightSwitch is for First Channel ONLY on the SmallBox. Yeah its a hard dicission, I also had to make. I owned the SmallBox. Never had an amp with that wide of dynamic range. Stay tuned. Greetz from Germany. Rock on. I like your Videos. Matz
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for watching!
@stricknine8623
@stricknine8623 7 ай бұрын
They are both about as good as it gets for me...I had both..Now I just have the Small Box. The Small Box 50 is slightly better in a live band mix situation. If you just play at home without being in a mix,..They are about equal in terms of tone and response. The DS may even slightly edge out the SB in this scenario. But playing gigs and set rehearsals,...The Small Box is just a skosh better. It cuts a little better volume for volume and it sits perfect instead of almost perfect.
@user-jq4fz6co8b
@user-jq4fz6co8b 4 ай бұрын
The Dirty Shirley is more my style, as far as Marshally stuff goes, I prefer the fatter stuff like the JTM 45. Matter of fact I had my old Blackstar Artisan 100 modified to be 45/100 spec, KT66 and all. I miss the hell out of that thing!
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 4 ай бұрын
Yep that is a good format for sure!
@DelReiRock
@DelReiRock 6 жыл бұрын
Fuck!!! In this video you can see how Friedman amp's sounds AWESOME in very low volumes... Almost on ZERO!!
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 6 жыл бұрын
+Del Rei Rock Yeah they really do sound spectacular at low volumes.
@minisurfbanana
@minisurfbanana 7 жыл бұрын
Small box single coils 1st position 👍👍👍
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's a pretty sick tone!
@HiHello-ku1fl
@HiHello-ku1fl 5 жыл бұрын
The Dirty Shirley sounds more classic and the small box a tad more modern or pokey. I like the Dirty Shirley as it reminds me more of the Marshall bass circuits which were a lil fuller and less bright but smooth and crisp at the same time.
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 5 жыл бұрын
Some it up pretty well! Both are a blast to play!
@piercewilkins8625
@piercewilkins8625 7 жыл бұрын
Dirty Shirley sounds thicker
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
She is a beast. Such a good amp. They both have their plus sides.
@physiciansassist1
@physiciansassist1 4 жыл бұрын
Brett I just want ti hang and smoke a j with you ha ha...
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 4 жыл бұрын
Haha! Sweet lol!
@kristop2288
@kristop2288 7 жыл бұрын
The last time I was this early, there was still a moustache! First!
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
Haha!
@cragginshred
@cragginshred Жыл бұрын
Turn the bass down to let the mids be present!
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa Жыл бұрын
I usually don't use the bass much.
@cragginshred
@cragginshred Жыл бұрын
@@BrettPapa Friedmans don't need much bass due to how much he mods out the Marshall shrillness. Love your vids and lessons bud !!
@fritzhieke7209
@fritzhieke7209 3 ай бұрын
Dirty Shirly = AC/DC Small Box = Van Halen
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 3 ай бұрын
Yep that pretty much sums it up haha!
@jorgeloureiro6047
@jorgeloureiro6047 7 жыл бұрын
Divided by 13 is the amp!!! ;) these two are to compressed for me...
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
Tis a good one! They are different all together. Both are awesome!
@edberger4679
@edberger4679 7 жыл бұрын
I couldn't wait to get rid of my divided by 13...
@zafira976
@zafira976 6 жыл бұрын
...why was that? Did you have any problems with it?
@robertlevasseur8896
@robertlevasseur8896 4 жыл бұрын
The amps sound great but it is the guitar that really kills me.
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 4 жыл бұрын
Haha hope that is a good thing! It is a Bill Nash 60's style Strat.
@guitarz
@guitarz 4 жыл бұрын
papastache102 with a fender neck?
@guitarz
@guitarz 4 жыл бұрын
papastache102 check that just saw your previous reply it’s a sticker.. ha love it
@minisurfbanana
@minisurfbanana 7 жыл бұрын
But for $2700 il get something else
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 7 жыл бұрын
Lot's of options out there.
@minisurfbanana
@minisurfbanana 7 жыл бұрын
papastache102 don't get me wrong they both sound great. But...very pricey. Love ur videos!!!
@edberger4679
@edberger4679 7 жыл бұрын
yeah, bad ones!
@jameshughes6156
@jameshughes6156 6 жыл бұрын
Mini Surf I did that and ended up trading to SB limited. U end up there anyway at least I did and no I’m not rich. Quiet amp. I’m going to keep saying it has NO radio stations coming in at all. Very quiet. Dave’s a really great amp maker.
@ChaosAttractor13
@ChaosAttractor13 6 жыл бұрын
Why can't you say which one you like more and for what reason. Stop being a lackey and give us your real honest opinion. I am so sick of watching these comparison videos only to be left with "you make your own decision". We don't need you for that. That's not why we watch the video. Grow a pair and give us a real winner. Say it clearly with your mouth so everyone understands. Please.
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 6 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm, I gave you an honest opinion, they are different. It depends on what sound you are going for. I would suggest you go to a store and listen to them and make up your own mind.
@ChaosAttractor13
@ChaosAttractor13 6 жыл бұрын
I want to know what you think. You are the expert. I like a good modern 6l6 rock with a good clean channel. I am not trying to be an ass. I just want a side of the fence picked. Most of these amps sound the same to me. I can barely play guitar, so I am not going to go demo anything. It's too embarrassing. That's why I come here.
@ChaosAttractor13
@ChaosAttractor13 6 жыл бұрын
Say something like, "both of these are great amps. But I like the Dirty Shirley better because....fill in the blank. Easy as pie.
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 6 жыл бұрын
I hear ya. So the Shirley has a little bit more of its own kind of sound. Whereas if you want more of a plexi or a modded Marshall type of sound the small box is great! Hendrix to Van Halen I would do a Small Box if I wanted a modern country or a blues style amp I would go for the Shirley.
@Papa_O.A.M
@Papa_O.A.M 5 жыл бұрын
Your the man Papa! Thanks for the great demos like always and Im going to pull the trigger on the Smallbox very soon. Even though the be-50 deluxe is out now I still like the Smallbox more! Keep Rockin' brother!
@equalleftrights3130
@equalleftrights3130 10 ай бұрын
Damn, people still wear CommieFornia hats without being ashamed?
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa 10 ай бұрын
Haha it is a chiropractic event called Cal Jam that my friend puts on.
@SuperHotrod4
@SuperHotrod4 Жыл бұрын
Man how hot is that pick up? I played one of these amps and didn’t have nearly that much gain. Sounds great in the system
@BrettPapa
@BrettPapa Жыл бұрын
It is a low output humbucker. I think its 8.9. Lollar imperial low wind.
@yomuthabyotch
@yomuthabyotch 22 күн бұрын
​@@BrettPapawas just about to ask--thanks!
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