NoDestination Founder Sam Holland Discusses Matthew Sluka's Decision to Redshirt

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@jeffhuang5061 Ай бұрын

UNLV cannot give him anything in writing even if they wanted to. you're not allowed to recruit with promise of x amount of NIL money. everyone does it, but you're not allowed to. And without anything in writing, there is no proof that UNLV recruited him with promise of NIL money and thus even if he's basically accusing UNLV of recruiting violations, there's no proof of any violation. However, this hurts UNLV recruiting going forward, because their words can't be trusted. they can way whatever they want to a recruit, but whereas other schools are probably honoring their verbal agreements, UNLV isn't in this case and that could hurt them.

@LVLawyerEsq Ай бұрын

The NIL collective could have if there was an official agreement.

@cusesportstalk Ай бұрын

In terms of the schools, you're totally right. The most they can do, from our past conversations with legal experts, is tell student athletes "a player like you normally makes $xxx,xxx through our collective." So essentially, a player can be given an amount that they can expect, but the schools aren't legally allowed to be promise anything.

@zackattack635 Ай бұрын

@@LVLawyerEsq if there was an official agreement, this issue isn’t an issue. There’s no contract being broken.

@tsecllc Ай бұрын

The timing is questionable. On his podcast, Coach JB said he spoke with a friend of his who is on staff at UNLV. The guy told Coach JB that Sluka and his agent tried to leverage his play and the team's ranked status for $300k. The school said no do he bailed. There is a feeling that a P5 school reached out to him and since his value is high it was best to sit out the rest of the season in order to get the bag on the off-season.

@Mojo702 Ай бұрын

I just don't see how his value is high. He's a good runner but a horrible passer.

@peterfitzentite6581 Ай бұрын

I think a bigger school is offering more money and poaching. He can now play another year for the highest bidder.

@phlip9037 Ай бұрын

I'm not about to place blame on the kid when it was adults that promised him the money.

@Mojo702 Ай бұрын

There are always three sides to a story: his side, their side, & the truth.

@michaeljohn4430 Ай бұрын

Do you know they promised him money? No you do not, no one knows. The fact is he is stupid for not getting anything on paper, a contract

@richardanderson1644 Ай бұрын

He is not pro material and he now gets another full season to play before he is done. Plus, he is calling out UNLV.

@jeffreyfletcher3261 Ай бұрын

Good points and good job moderating Steve. Entertaining and informative discussion

@TXHORNS210 Ай бұрын

The facts are the facts. There was a 100k verbal negotiation which was never approved or brought up to the unlv collective which has to approve all nil deals. This kid has an agent who didn't even persue or get it in writing before he signed his letter of intent. That's why there is nothing in writing. He has a bad agent who says he can get his players money but can't even make sure it in writing and guaranteed b4 allowing him to sign.

@bryantrockwell4676 Ай бұрын

Michael Allen announced his redshirt on Twitter too a few hours ago

@TXHORNS210 Ай бұрын

@@bryantrockwell4676 and he said it was due to low snap counts and not nil

@yousaidwhaaaattt8631 Ай бұрын

Um this is an illegal act. His agent literally can not get it in writing. What are you even talking about?

@TXHORNS210 Ай бұрын

@yousaidwhaaaattt8631 nil deals are contracts, wth are you talking about?

@TXHORNS210 Ай бұрын

@bryantrockwell4676 yes and he said it was due to not enough snaps nothing to do with nil

@richardbowles8783 Ай бұрын

Hm. Seems like daddy is trying a Manning move, except, this isn't a Manning.

@floridapmi Ай бұрын

Who couldn't see this situation coming?

@davidahe45 Ай бұрын

I don't believe contracts will put an end to situations like this, but they will definitely put some structure to pay for play. The NFL has contracts and players still hold out once they outperform the contract. Should be interesting to see how all this plays out.

@johnkim163 Ай бұрын

Derek Stevens ( Circa hotel ) said he would pay the hundred thousand personally. Barry Odom said that ship has sailed. Other players have also left in support of #3. HC Odom just got called out by Derek Stevens.

@Mojo702 Ай бұрын

What other players left in support of Sluka?

@johnkim163 Ай бұрын

@@Mojo702 a running back

@Mojo702 Ай бұрын

@@johnkim163 yes, Michael Allen. His leaving has nothing to do with NIL or Sluka. He tweeted about that specifically, stating that his reason is playing time and has nothing to do with NIL. UNLV running backs are deep and he wasn't getting the ball as much as he wanted.

@RussellSSmith Ай бұрын

"We used to get news but now get opinions, even in talk radio." The kid had the right to do what he has done. I think he opened a can of worms.. He's talented and I wish him the best. .

@Nthe727 Ай бұрын

Committed to UNLV in January 2024, Jan 19, 24 signs with equity sports as agent....3 weeks into season and 8 months after getting agent / commiting and still doesn't have his money? Not adding up.

@Steve-v4i Ай бұрын

7:15 what did people think was gonna happen? It’s now a business and it’s a job. His teammates aren’t really teammates, their coworkers. If anybody offered me a significant amount of more money than my current employer did, I would leave as would most people. I’ve thought from the beginning this was gonna ruin college sports

@heroby_default Ай бұрын

Whats the truth. You guys are talking about 100k but I keep seeing statements that he got an agent and came back and said his valuation was higher and wanted 300k.

@MarineBlueFade Ай бұрын

Thank you nobody wants to talk about that which is the real reason why he bounced.

@johnpymn9869 Ай бұрын

His FIRST question should have been,,,,, can I have that in writing ,,, why the hell would anyone TRUST anyone in college football.

@BamaScorpio69 Ай бұрын

These college players need agents to ensure stuff like this doesn't happen again.

@cusesportstalk Ай бұрын

@@BamaScorpio69 and you gotta find the RIGHT agent

@BamaScorpio69 Ай бұрын

@@cusesportstalk Agree!

@Scorpionbite8 Ай бұрын

Schools cannot pay students to play. However the NIL allows the school to share profits from merch, ticket sales, ect... UNLV needs to try to resolve the issue. Get something in writing to establish a percentage of profits the school makes. It might not be up front money, but if UNLV makes a good run this year, sky is the limit

@klardfarkus3891 Ай бұрын

What is the big deal? Player thought he wasn’t getting what they promised and took his ball and went somewhere else. Case closed.

@MassaroMinistries9782 Ай бұрын

Until there are checks and balances with NIL it is terrible for Amateur Athletics in general. IF it is NOT in writing than it may not happen. This kid better pioneer NIL and his next stop needs to be the benchmark for contract law in regards to NIL. This whole situation is ridiculous to me. What happened to the days where these kids got paid with a free education , room and board and that meant something?

@bobbylee1427 Ай бұрын

Thank god he left

@Mao-s6q Ай бұрын

How is he able to redshirt after a playing 3 games? Not injured either. Probably reason why there are 26/27yo playing with 18-19yo.

@rogergambrell7492 Ай бұрын

My son is playing D3 basketball, and he is 19 years old. Every other player on the team is 23 years or older. It's ridiculous, and a lot of young men are starting life late. It's so stupid!!!

@Mao-s6q Ай бұрын

@@rogergambrell7492 Thats ridiculous & when those 23yo leave some more will come. NIL and college sports is general is getting unrecognizable. I prefer professional sports way more now

@cusesportstalk Ай бұрын

@@Mao-s6q Maybe some sort of change should be made to the rule in response to NIL?

@richiswhere Ай бұрын

With that 43% completion percentage schools gonna be droppin bag for him

@Nthe727 Ай бұрын

He had an agent. Allegations are unsupported. Too bad. Make better choices.

@jason5265 Ай бұрын

4:12 the guy in white sucks at his job. “I know he can only play 4 games to preserve his redshirt, but why leave now?” Dude you’re answering your own question. I hope this channel never comes across my recommendations again

@cusesportstalk Ай бұрын

@@jason5265 Think the point of the question was, why wouldn't Sluka sit out a few games and preserve his redshirt while trying to resolve the dispute, then play again if he gets paid, before immediately announcing he's done for the season.

@Selfless_american Ай бұрын

Nobody knew the name Sluka until now... so he's trying to capitalize since he played a few good games and restart his final year somewhere that's willing to pay him. He's pulling a stunt.

@Scorpionbite8 Ай бұрын

I think if Sluka stuck it out with UNLV, and they have a great season, his NIL status would be worthy

@deepood6392 Ай бұрын

Hey unless something contrary comes out I'm in sluka's court in this situation. But my lord work on your interview structuring. It would be appearant to a chimp you keyed up all the other side arguments ahead of time with your interview subject

@VEGASBIGDOGDASHERS Ай бұрын

he thinks hes getting more money with sombody else when you show you quit on this team who wants a leader like that for there team

@stinger0772 Ай бұрын

He quit with good reason. Can't play for a coaching staff that broke their word. Trust and respect is lost so you can't blame him for no longer wanting to play for them.

@MarineBlueFade Ай бұрын

@@stinger0772 UNLV doesn't need a player whose agent urged him to ask for more money after two the big wins over power 5 opponents because he felt he was the only reason for their success. According to inside sources, he got greedy and the school called his bluff then they went out and hanged 59 on the next opponent without him. Best believe he'll ask for even more before signing at the next school.

@adambomb215 Ай бұрын

wait until a suprise team makes the playoffs and a QB/RB/WR says ummm I'm playing above my expectations and took us to the playoffs. I need a million by next week or I'm out. it's going to happy

@cusesportstalk Ай бұрын

@@adambomb215 crazy times

@Mojo702 Ай бұрын

They won't get another year of eligibility.

@timhall5382 Ай бұрын

This guy is obviously a liar.

@seancollins8563 Ай бұрын

What?

@thomasguidroz1711 Ай бұрын

30k-50k a year for all college athletes nomatter whatbthatsbwhat it should be u want more prove yaself an make it to the NFL until then all these kods will just be greedy an want more

@cusesportstalk Ай бұрын

It's a new era for sure. But if you were promised an amount, wouldn't you want it?

@CuseVegas Ай бұрын

It's pretty clear... they lied to him and are stiffing him. Why on earth would he continue playing?

@PHN-2024 Ай бұрын

Also, He needed to Stop Playing before Game 4 to keep His Red Shirt Transfer Eligibility for next season.

@timhall5382 Ай бұрын

Seems obvious he wants a raise.

@SurferRC Ай бұрын

Verbal means nada! Im sending you a bajillion dollars tomorrow! Hold your breath til the brinks truck shows up at your door! 🤡😂🤦🏼‍♂️

@lexhawkins7442 Ай бұрын

No, it’s NOT clear what happened. That’s the reason for all the debate.

@PHN-2024 Ай бұрын

@@lexhawkins7442 What’s there to explain, A Transfer QB left UNLV because He wasn’t Paid.

@thomasguidroz1711 Ай бұрын

It's fuckin college football prove yourself that u deserve the money make it to the league an get paid like wtf is wrong with u people like all of a sudden now college football is a job news flash no tf its not its a place to prove yourself to beable to make millions playing a GAME I always thought players should get paid but not that's all its about an all these kids r just greedy now its sad as tf seriously

@VEGASBIGDOGDASHERS Ай бұрын

HERES A IDEA TAKE A CONTRACT CLASS AT UNLV LEARN SOMETHING INSTEAD OF USING DUMB AS A EXCUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS COACHES CANT PROMISE ANYTHING/!

@abelnightroad5162 Ай бұрын

Maybe you can take some class. You cant have anything in writing, its ILLEGAL.

@kahledalbert1210 Ай бұрын

This is a lie. No way did UNLV jeopardize themselves by offering to “pay him” when universities do not pay the athletes. Look how uncomfortable this “friend” looks. He knows he is pushing a lie. This QB demanded 300k because they are 3-0 and overplayed his hand.

@yousaidwhaaaattt8631 Ай бұрын

So you just somehow know the real information? LOL WTF

@kahledalbert1210 Ай бұрын

@@yousaidwhaaaattt8631 go look at the reports from Pete Thamel and other reputable cfb journalist and you will find this kid is lying. He tried to get UNLV to pay him now or he would quit. Good for Odom for letting him walk.

@LockoutX Ай бұрын

I know Sam personally he’s not lying 😂. Sam is being his normal self.

@NT-or9wh Ай бұрын

ESPN reported he got payed $3k for a “summer engagement”. IF that’s the only payment received then UNLV is lying because no one is transferring for only $3k. That’s too big of a gap between that and $100k.

@r-sd8iw Ай бұрын

Who is this guy? Sluka’s paid henchman? Sluka is not a kid anymore. He is getting paid to play sports. Time for sluka to start being a man if he wants man money.