The NDIS was predatory.

[@tayzonday]

Can kangaroos be trained to do anything like go to a fridge and serve cold beer from their pouches?

[@balung]

Well, ummm someone did train a roo to get a beer, think it's on YT somewhere.

[@lifeasrini]

😂😂 excellent question ... I also need this information and I'm Australian

[@bigbrothertw]

yeah but they'd be really passive aggressive about it

[@gaylordcomic]

Thats every weekend at the pub mate

[@ethanbenson]

Holy crap! It’s the chocolate rain guy!

[@DavidBirdMcbride]

I’ve met a lot of parents with Disabled kids and their life is in a different realm of pain and sadness than most of us. The LNP trashing the NDIS was one of the worst acts in Aust politics. Thank you FJ for giving its ‘saving’ by Shorten the publicity and credit it deserves. It is truly one something we can be proud of in this country.

[@HenryKlausEsq.]

Onya Davo!

[@rtmpgt]

When the LNP cut its funding and gutted the service quality by handing the role of LACs over to private corporations it was absolutely absurd the amount of hoops I had to go through to maintain my funding as an Autistic person. There was even talks of cutting about 75% of all Autistic people off of the NDIS by the LNP, (But ASAN and other autistic-self-advocates stepped up to the plate and lobbied HARD to stop that from happening.)

[@ShuckleII]

Hey, they're talking about people like me! I might as well give an example, and of course trigger warning: The dogs from the neighborhood I'm currently at have been barking all day and night for the last 4 years. -I don't get any sun in the futile attempt to escape them, which has made my vision get worse and now I need glasses, and it's going to continue getting worse. I sleep during the day. -I have an eating disorder to gaslight my brain into thinking I'm in a good situation and now I weight twice as much as I should. I am often on the verge of vomiting. -I am forced to dissociate so much from my surroundings that I have intense intrusive thoughts and delusions that attempt to create a world inside my brain because my brain needs a world to be in, and I'm disconnecting it from the physical world around me. Brains don't like feeling, for example, the void of not ever feeling your room. -I have to use headphones with normal or loud volume sounds 24/7, and it's stressful because ears need to take breaks, and because I'm sensitive to sounds, and because I'm scared of the constant loud barking. I have tinnitus. -The constant overwhelming atmosphere of getting screamed at by predators I think has caused my brain to short circuit and make me think that I'm saying everything I hear people say. Like, if you say "This is a comfortable chair", I feel like I just said that. It gets bad when people say things that I dislike. I think it's because I feel like everything I do can and will be punished by dog barking, and I hear so much dog barking, that my brain automatically assumes I must always be doing something wrong, and the most common thing I do is hear people talk in videos (because it gives me the illusion of being around people that can save me from my suffering), and since I'm wearing headphones and I can't hear my voice well and I'm almost always alone, it probably starts hallucinating that I'm saying what the videos say, being the cause of the constant dog barking. -The anxiety I get from hearing dog barking makes me gradually shut down physically and mentally. Physically I'll eventually be unable to move and you'll find me on the ground, mentally my thoughts freeze from the fear and my mind eventually turns into a dark room with overwhelming loud and aggressive sounds. Why can I still hear them when my brain shuts down? I don't know, maybe this is hell, it's by design. It's very dangerous, to give a single example, furniture with 90° corners. Needless to say, it'll easily start making me cry, and it severely limits my ability to function mentally and physically, that is why I'm disabled. I also sometimes get hallucinations and always feel like I could get more by just letting my guard down. -The anxiety I've felt because of it has been so high, that I gained some sort of revolutionary information from it. There seems to be no limit to human anxiety, it just gets worse. The only limit that I could measure is the point where the brain starts forcing you to escape the situation no matter the cost, eventually being unable to resist. -I never have much energy to do things and doing things makes me more anxious because of feeling like I'm more exposed to the dog barking, it's difficult for me to even take care of the essentials like hygiene, let alone living independently. I could say a million things about it, but I'm just going to say that humanity should never accept violence, it is a slippery slope, you become desensitized to one type, eventually you'll become desensitized to more types for losing the sense needed to detect it, and more types will start appearing because toxic people feel more accepted. Anyway, yea I really relate to you calling it a different realm of pain and sadness, I'm very glad you described it like that. If I managed to escape to a house that wasn't exposed to constant aggression, I feel like I would exclusively and indefinitely cry. You develop a lot of repressed grief with disabilities and trauma. Thank you for bringing awareness to it. No one is going to bring enough awareness to undo society's acceptance of that type of violence though. At least most of the victims of that type are already gone. Have fun with the next type.

[@thomasa5619]

@@ShuckleII and when you apply for ndis funding cause you’re autistic and have anxiety, they’ll reply “anxiety is a medical condition not a disability, go to the doctor and get antidepressants. They’re covered by Medicare.”

[@sharonhobbs4144]

​@@fouadmas5413 maybe you need to stop blaming?

[@banistersmind]

My wife was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis 18 months ago. Despite going through a brutal process of application and assessment (thanks Morrison) she was able to qualify for assistance. It has been a life saver for her and for us. She has been able to keep working as a Nurse Educator and contribute as a taxpayer and we've been able to make our home more functional with her physical deficits. The NDIS has a game changer.

[@ozdigg9254]

This outcome is wonderful to hear. All peace and strength to you and your wife.

[@baabaabaa2293]

I'm glad ur missus got the help she needs mate..... I'm still jumping thru hoops that 5 Job Scotty set up... absolutely fkn ridiculous!!

[@zmilez6011]

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[@igitha..._]

Glad to hear that she's getting the help she needs, I also have a degenerative neurological condition and despite providing extensive documentation from everyone I can't seem to figure out why NDIS\NDIA and the "Service Providers" have spent the last five and a half years screwing me over!

[@74KU]

@@igitha..._ Yep these are the stories that keep me from accessing it, When people who can put up with Centrelink's shit complain that a system is hostile, needlessly complex, rigged and just plain useless you know its a whole new level of bad.. The best part? now there is an NDIS it's either having my life micromanaged and playing stupid games in the hopes of getting some help.. or nothing. Frankly not having to deal with any more bullshit government departments who are more interested in power tripping than actually doing their jobs is worth it and I reckon that is exactly the reason NDIS is the way it is.

[@Pikachuness]

As someone with an uncle on NDIS for brain damage, the horror stories from my mother and grandparents of talking to people who knew even less about the system and what he needed than they did was awful.

[@ducdashot1239]

this is a sad reality of many social welfare systems, here in the uk the people who decide whether you qualify for PIP which is essentially our version of NDIS are all outsourced and not even trained medical staff so essentially you've got someone with no medical background responsible for determining if you're disabled enough for aid. i dont know why so many governments think its cheaper to outsource private companies that know nothing vs genuine medical professionals already on their payroll

[@ducdashot1239]

@@mycosys how are they different? am i misunderstanding what NDIS is?

[@ducdashot1239]

@@mycosys i had read that its a scheme prioritised on providing the qualified disabled with funding, disability specific resources and easier access to medical assistance like live in carers. whilst the NDIS does exist in the UK as an independent agency known as the NDIA (just swap scheme for agency) it isnt fully supported by the government, instead the uk has a system known as PIP or Personal Independence Payment. a person who qualifies for PIP receives monetary assistance as well as, medical service assistance, in home/ independent carer funding, in home mobility and accessibility programs (stair lifts, walk in showers, etc) and if you qualify you also get generalised mobility support where the government provide you with a vehicle to help increase your ease of mobility. this isnt just a mobility scooter but a whole ass car that the government pays for and they replace every 4 years, now the recipient still has to pay road tax, fuel and repairs etc but the upfront cost is covered by PIP. also PIP is still available even if the individual is working and is not reduced based on income, if you qualify for PIP it doesnt matter how much you work or what you're payed you receive the assistance plan that your current disability qualifies for. that way those who get better stop receiving the payment and support but those who have chronic or long term disabilities are guaranteed support even if they choose to work. is that not pretty much what NDIS is aiming to do?

[@MichelleWardley]

🙂 I'm so sorry.

[@MichelleWardley]

​@@mycosys 😮

[@coolkid584]

The fact that you didn't say he *Shortened* the wait times qualifies you for the NDIS shanksy.

[@tweakos2025]

Absolute Gold comment right here!

[@MacGuffin1]

Thankyou for that my Billbux just stonked

[@rtmpgt]

@@MacGuffin1 Now that's a currency you can't... *short*

[@bigbad253]

Well done - this pun qualifies you to move from Cool Kid status to Dad Joke Spotter. Love it.

[@UziMusic]

You just shortened the sh*t out of this comment section

[@Razlorus]

Just to say as a person that voted Liberal in the past for my own interests I have come to realise my choice was short sighted from your videos. I used to vote labor when I had time to look into our politics but as I had less time as I got older I started to vote for lower income tax for myself and have begun to realise the damage I am doing to my child's future thanks for actually doing what most of us Aussies don't and looking into our politics as most of our media focuses on foreign politics which has in turn exacerbated the confusion amongst our voters over what is best for them.

[@abbeyjanegreen703]

Thank you for changing your mind. When the poorest people in a country can live comfortably then that is a truely successful country

[@GeneralAeon]

I think lots of Aussies do the same especially with rising prices and think "yeah I could use the extra few dollars" but don't think in the long term "oh my kid or someone else's future kid might never be able to afford a medical bill..."

[@katestrang7084]

My kid is on NDIS. It has changed his life. Eternally grateful to Labor.

[@TeeDubzz]

how large was the difference post NDIS not only in his outcomes, but also it's impact on your ability to work/live etc?

[@sharonhobbs4144]

​@@TeeDubzz it's not about the parents, sorry!

[@j...bro.]

Paid for by mining oil and gas

[@briton3851]

@@j...bro. did you pull that out ur arse or is it tru tho

[@lunah4695]

my time with them was less then satisfactory from 2015 to now, hope theyre helpful for you

[@PhoenixAnimus]

I work as a disability support worker, the amount of companies that cut corners to the support people need so they can stuff cash in their backpocket is appauling. Not to mention the ground force is treated like trash by any form of management.

[@PhoenixAnimus]

​@A Smith Well, at least in Queensland, I can't say exactly who they are, but if you can decipher my clever puzzle I will reveal two. Multicrap Cone of X Son

[@ugthump2753]

​@@PhoenixAnimus Do the companies require employees / contractors to sign Non-disclosure Agreements?

[@ugthump2753]

@seearbi Thank you for your information. I thought this would be so.

[@ulrikezachmann7596]

Hear hear and Ditto to that. I am am a parent of an adult on the NDIS and it is corrupt. How the hell can I get someone to clean my toilet , which I have been offered after I have been unwell when my loved one can’t maintain funding for a disability from birth that will never change and is left neglected? They keep cutting the budget for people with disabilities from birth. That was what the NDIS was intended for. People who were uninsured for their disabilities. Suddenly everyone has Autism and PTSD, or ADHD and these are adults who suddenly made a life revelation. How so? We are all on the spectrum. Where are the assessment services? The more money I have the more I can pay a rogue Doctor for a diagnosis I want.

[@whathappenedtoearth6495]

@Seearbi sounds like another politically-motivated example of trickle-down economics, designed to push the person at the bottom of the food chain to grow tired of the irony and just neck themselves. My honest opinion. I believe there's an element of sociopathy that runs deep in Australia. I've experienced it first hand. One of the best steps forward for me is to stop using social media (aside from some KZbin), because these sociopathic and cruel tentacles are long. It kind of reminds me of the episode of The Simpsons, where Willie the ground's keeper, is saying in relation to the kids welfare; "we'll get them where they can't protect them... in their dreams" aka their phones. It not actually that infeasible considering the powers that be, will trample on any one who is bright enough to see what's going on, and whom won't shut up about it. These powers that be treat us like a domestic terrorist, simply for having a brain and knowing what's going on regarding msm, social media etc etc.

[@Hondavid.]

Every time I think im offended by one of Jordan's more edgy jokes, I'm reeled back by how offensive the liberal party of australia is to humanity, and forget jordan even said anything. Like how low can the liberals dig?

[@drh4376]

Tories thinking that getting the private sector involved in essential services will ALWAYS lead to better value for money for the taxpayers. Hasn't worked for 40 year and never will.

[@Seajack64]

I doubt that they think it will lead to better value for money for the taxpayers. It's more likely that they think it will lead to better value for money for the elite class. They'll give as much power to the private sector as they can until the next crisis where Labor is finally allowed in to start repairing the damage again. The coalition will bitch and whine the entire time and the elite class will have their finger over On switch of the propaganda machine, ready to boot Labor right before social improvement gets good enough to threaten their capitalist power.

[@janemacintyre9801]

Better value for their donors and mates...

[@bigbad253]

Interviewer: Who told you that this government institution could be more efficiently run by the private sector? Interviewee: An independent consulting firm....made up of private companies who want to move in and profit from it immediately.

[@jasvan4222]

What’s tories?

[@blordo]

​@@jasvan4222, Here it's referring to the LNP. Its actually a UK term for their conservative party

[@Policepigeon]

Its not a lack of vision. It's just everybody else is blind.

[@Azgorth02]

So a lack of vision? I don't think you thought this out too well lol.

[@Lussra]

@@Azgorth02 He said everyone else. So Labor has a vision, but everyone else is blind

[@matthewdiamond8041]

My son is on the NDIS and we wouldn’t be able to pay for any of his treatment if he wasn’t. Thanks Bill.

[@oliversmith4805]

My friend is ndis worker, he gets paid to help do day to day tasks and other times to do social things like movies and rock climbing or pool. He told me about one of his clients having to drop him after their physical therapist drained almost their entire ndis fund of over $10,000 (if i remember correctly) the therapist did a 1 to 2 hour session a week for a few months with the client before they realised how much they had be charging them

[@iJaGSloshtt]

yeah thats pretty bog standard stuff, I'm a support worker and I advocate for my participants, problem is this kind of thing happens so fast the damage is done. Theft is not a change of circumstance that requires a plan review, its a crime, most people change providers or what ever and move on with a review as its easier to regain funding for supports that way, than it is taking the legal route.

[@KangarooKommando]

@@mycosys Even maxing this out at $300/hr for 2 hours a week you'd still only be able to do that for four months. Either the PT was so clueless they just assumed anyone on NDIS is a bottomless wallet, or they knew they'd drain this person dry in 1/3 of a year. I don't know which of those two options is worse.

[@KangarooKommando]

@@mycosys I don't like that you've given me a third option that is somehow worse than the other two =(

[@ashleywalker3813]

@@mycosys I do that case management for a living. Quite a few years ago, 20 hours/year would be considered very low coordination budget, for someone who could handle most challenges themselves but needed someone to set them on the right path and check in every now and then. I'm now seeing "average" complexity getting those 20s, some as low as 12, and even very complex with 30 hours a year. We can't monitor very closely with those limitations. The other difficulty - we can't actually see what funds are being claimed or by who. We have to actually contact the NDIA each time to ask someone's fund balance, and can't be told who is claiming/how much they have booked, even with consent.

[@whathappenedtoearth6495]

@Ashley Walker we really need an independent watch dog, to keep the administrators and the registered providers to account for rorting the safety net of extremely vunerable people, but why is there no mention of this? Because they want to instead sell the premise that it's an honest service/system, but it isn't and we all know this.

[@badjujuforever]

before ndis most of my clients sat in their houses for pretty much their entire life. Now, if they can they get to choose how they spend their life. Game changer. But, so many sketchy companies seem to pop up every day

[@igitha..._]

That's great to hear - my experience is the opposite. I used to get out of the house more, but since NDIS I'm more isolated, unsupported, struggling to get out of the house. Sick of it . I seem to be the magnet for all the shit companies through NDIS, I'm so over it........

[@Chelle1214]

I'm on the NDIS, it's been life changing. It's not being abused by participants, it is incredibly hard to get on and we are watched like harks but the way the NDIS set a max price cap for providers and let them just charge that regardless is atrocious. So many providers are robbing the budgets of disabled people's NDIS plans completely blind and there's not a damn thing disabled people can do about it. The way it is structured means it's become a cottage industry, it's not real world prices. Disabled people are terrified that we will be the ones to suffer because of the way the previous govt set it up.

[@thomasa5619]

@@Sanguinarius9999 there are three ways you can spend NDIS money With NDIS registered businesses only With a third party essentially doing all the accounting for you Or you sort it all out yourself and send in the receipts Self managed and I think plan managed allows you to go with non registered providers

[@Chelle1214]

Plan management is definitely the way to go. I do try to use independents or normal businesses where I can but when things are disability specific I find you usually need to use a provider just because normal businesses don't cater for that need.

[@sharonhobbs4144]

​@@mycosys self managed isn't impossible to get at all. You do need to outsource the work if you can, but plan managed isn't necessary. I see plan managers gate keep too

[@whathappenedtoearth6495]

"Because of the way the previous Govt. Set it up" And let's watch Labor not rectify this trough-gorging by NDIS registered providers, either.

[@joshjonson2368]

How disabled are you, could I fold you in a life or death altercation even tho I'm only 130lbs?

[@reikiessence11]

As an NDIS participant ... you made me laugh. The biggest problem is most definitely people taking advantage of disabled persons plans. Many of us have reported absolutely abhorrent behaviour - over charging, lying about work done* (such as report writing, shifts with clients in person, etc), literally removing people from safety and taking control... etc - and Quality and Safeguards "literally" shoves it off. People need to be aware also, NDIS is NOT an income. Jordie, if you ever want to chat to participants about their experiences - I'm in !!

[@DV869R]

I have an extremely rare disease, I am bedridden, and wheelchair bound and I have been trying to get on the NDIS for years - I have an extremely rare disease and there’s not a single specialist in the whole of Australia, yet they want a letter from a specialist 🙄 I understand the need to protect from fraudulent claims, but I have been waiting for years, I’m still waiting, and I am struggling but still nothing… I tried last year to make you aware of my, and others situations with the NDIS, but unfortunately no luck…It’s very difficult for people who genuinely need help, and yet there’s people who are on the NDIS and it seems like there’s no way to get any meaningful change - My Doctor writes letters, and other organisations but nothing helps - I even tried the media but again no luck. I’m glad people who need it get it, but there’s many people who are in desperate need of support and cannot get through the red tape and nonsense!

[@adamwest1138]

My wife worked for an NDIS provider in Sydney's North. Her Director was constantly logging in after hours and changing the hours spent on each client without the permission of her and other coordinators. For example, he sent a group email to about 300 NDIS participants, which was a newsletter about the company he didn't even write and billed each of them 15 minutes to their plan, which at $90 an hour comes to $15,000 for him forwarding one email.. If you want deets let me know, plenty of dodgy companies fraudulently taking our tax dollars and more importantly ripping off disabled people

[@imip1984]

My son is supported by NDIS. He has a few diagnosis’. I am so glad that Bill Shorten is investigating and talking to parents and carers and people with disabilities, especially about dodgy providers that charge ridiculous prices as soon as they hear ‘NDIS’. I had one OT that would charge $160 per 30 min session to just sit and colour and talk to ME for most of the session. Took a year but we finally got to another OT. Fingers crossed this one is better.

[@MichelleWardley]

😮

[@imip1984]

@@mycosys oh no, I did that a year ago. We only had her for a few weeks after our first OT left. Been on a few WAITLISTs for a year and someone had a spot 👍

[@gibboncubed]

for a (fortunately very short while) i was seeing a psychologist that would charge a gross amount (i dont know exact costs, my mum handles my ndis stuff😭but i know it was a lot) for her to PRIMARILY TRAUMA DUMP TO ME ABOUT HER OWN EXPERIENCES 💀she would also not show up to well over 50% of my appointments., only informing us that she has an 'urgent' situation, via text message after 10+ minutes of sitting in the waiting room

[@callumge]

I regularly work at ndis funded facilities and known multiple private ndis providers. I'm not saying they're all bad, but.. a lot of the private ones are getting away with some really bad shit. Not exactly where I want my taxes going..

[@rtmpgt]

There is a lot of dodgy cunts out there when it comes to NDIS funding... Worst part about these dodge organisations is that they often times exploit those who're more vulnerable to abuse to scrape a few extra bucks out of them.

[@robieburns7613]

Same and true the question is do we hate the rorts more than we love the scheme? and we all know the media won't be publishing much if anything extolling the virtues, it sells way better to piss poeple off. This is why we can't have nice things.

[@mikespike2099]

Most of them seem to be owned by Indian ethnics in my experience

[@robieburns7613]

@@mikespike2099 wow I'm kinda new to the game but so far it's been two friend of friends that started Thier own company after seeing shortfalls and shoddy behavior. It also seems like poeple leave to start Thier own company taking clients with them.

[@sharonhobbs4144]

The companies can be bad. But the small private operators who employ only themselves are a godsend. Personal and serious workers who give a damn about their clients.

[@Skeptical_Numbat]

I'm on the NDIS for a chronic disease & looking back it's pretty much saved me from becoming a bitter & selfish old bastard. Every person I've encountered working in the system, here in WA, has been sincere in their acceptance that I really am severely ill & no-one, No-one, wants to live like this if they have a choice. Most things have eventually gone through with their help & ongoing support. The one thing that I want added to the NDIS is Medications. There's no point in having the NDIS pay for a Specialist doctor without also paying for the recommended treatment.

[@rtmpgt]

It'd be tricky to sort medications. Mostly because the PBS covers meds.

[@Skeptical_Numbat]

Most of mine are covered by the PBS. I just have one extremely expensive medication which has to be made by a compounding chemist ($110 / 2 weeks).

[@alimac7203]

Unfortunately, there are many meds that aren't covered by PBS (also Medicare don't cover all treatments). Some meds are covered only for certain uses or particular diseases. Newer uses for existing meds often fall outside PBS coverage. I require botox for muscle spasms in my face due to TMJ derangement, not covered ($$$$ every 4 months) and CBD/THC oil for chronic pain is $260 for 3 months supply- I'm not on the NDIS but I am on a pension so I equally can't always afford this stuff.

[@TheCaldium]

The NDIS will never include medications, and for good reason. It's not supposed to replace PBS or Medicare, and it isn't supposed to replace your regular Health services. There are plenty of arguments to be had around the efficacy of Health services across Australia and the failings there, but the NDIS is already ballooning, so more likely we'll see Shorten make cuts to stop it from overwhelming our national budget.

[@JewTube001]

Just not the point of the NDIS I'm afraid. Look to the other branches of welfare.

[@discordlexia2429]

I've been on the NDIS for a few years now. It was a nightmare to get on, I swear it was designed to be incomprehensible to neurodivergent people. I had to get a support worker just to file the application. Then it was two years of being handed off to different agencies with nothing happening. Glad to hear its getting some attention.

[@patricklauer4452]

I’ve also been on it and yeah this is a mood

[@GeneralAeon]

Yeah I'm hopefully going to be on it too soon - it's been hell but glad my mum has become more aware of it all recently and had a friend who works for or is familiar with the NDIS system, can't recall which.

[@xXJightXx]

Where do I get access to a support worker. I'm also having difficulty

[@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor]

As someone who is *on* the NDIS, it is the greatest thing to happen to my life. It has been such an amazing piece of support I needed for my life. I hope that it gets even more funding to help support people even more!

[@rtmpgt]

I want them to bring LACs back to Cenno. I'm sick of having to rely on a new NGO every time I move house.

[@krissteel4074]

I'm stuck in limbo with a chronic heart condition that is pretty much terminal, but somewhere in the middle of being too disabled to work full time, not sick enough for NDIS or pension. Hopefully I'll get some help eventually under the new government because right now, I have to sort of scrimp, save and wrangle my physio and medical needs out of my own pocket.

[@rtmpgt]

​@@Sanguinarius9999 local area coordinators

[@sharonhobbs4144]

​@@krissteel4074 medical isn't covered by NDIS, they reckon that's what Medicare is for. But physio sure is covered!

[@whathappenedtoearth6495]

@Kris Steel I'm really sorry to hear about your flavour of struggles... here's hoping for Mr.Shorten to keep growing that heart of his and keep putting the taxpayers' money towards the things that the commoner with serious health/psychosocial issues would actually benefit from.

[@perplexedon9834]

I don't disagree that the Greens would probably be less effective if they ran the show, but they are less likely to compromise left populist values in favour of corporate donors than Labour would I'd unchecked. Having a healthy Greens minority hanging the parliament makes Labour more likely to competently legislate around climate change and cost of living because they need to work with the Greens.

[@perplexedon9834]

@@joaofelix7162 yeah it's the neoliberal idea that their job is to balance everyone's interests and treat all sides as reasonable rather than doing the right thing and making the country better. Trying to legislate equally in favour of capital and workers means that half of your legislation is against 99% of the population.

[@whathappenedtoearth6495]

And this right here is why I'll be voting Greens from now on. This Two wings of the same broken bird system has to change, even if Labor does dangle some more carrots than the LNP, it's just not enough anymore. Socially, as a country we're devolving at the hand of this current setup.

[@delasias9153]

the LNP/conservatives rub their grubby hands together at the ease to which people believe this shite.

[@teamtaj]

It's such a double edge sword dealing with the NDIS. We had to advocate to Bill's office directly to even get my son into the NDIS. He's got the most severe form of Cerebral Palsy so you'd think it would be easy but alas no. I feel for those who aren't able to easily advocate for themselves or who English is not their first language because it's a complex system with complex processes. So on the one hand my son has a level of support that we are very lucky to have but also have so many issues with the system that at times it all feels like too much. Hopefully we see a reversal in the direction we saw NDIS going under the libs and Bill cam help steer the ship to better outcomes for those that need it.

[@MarkJamesButcher]

Remember the NDIS passed parliament because of the Greens support during our hung parliament era, one of Australia's most prosperous economic periods in history. This hung parliament period ended in August 2013

[@krayfish7846]

As a half Australian half Japanese this video gave me a huge internal conflict

[@leptoceratops]

All that matters is that you're not a seppo

[@sharonhobbs4144]

I hear that Japan has problems with the rights of the disabled or elderly. I hope that's not correct but our disability support groups are saying it.

[@Mephiston]

Lets be honest, australia and japan have a good overlap when it comes to the section of society that has xenophobia

[@blackgold2589]

2:05 wow, it’s almost as if the greens are the progressive alternative to Labor.

[@fionafiona1146]

I don't think that RC voting really selects that way

[@shaunamurray8501]

@@mycosys Lidia Thorpe (no longer in the Greens anyway) wouldn't even rank in the top 20 Aussie politicians who have done or said something seriously outrageous and/or possibly illegal with actual consequences (and not just for themselves) in the past 5 years: ie ScoMo, Gladys Berejiklian, Eddie Obeid, Ian McDonald, Barnaby Joyce, Alan Tudge, Christian Porter, Bridget McKenzie, Tim Smith, Paul Pisasale, Ben Dawkins, Andrew Laming, Linda Reynolds, John Barilaro, Daryl Maguire, Mark Latham, Pauline Hanson.....and they're just the ones that spring to mind. She has said a few silly things and got drunk. It seems like a targeted campaign against her.

[@thebogangamer1]

@@mycosys this, nearly all the best policy comes from the greens, not labor.

[@sol1500]

I recently got approved for NDIS support, I'd applied for it near the end of 2021. And just like i'm finding with DSP, it's being gated by the cost of mental health profesionals as well as the 12+ month long wait lists for mental health access. While I already have reports from my doctors, psychologist, and only recently an occupational therapist in december 2022. This is still not enough for access to DSP, even though I've submitted medical exemption forms to centerlink from my doctor stating that I'm not able to currently manage the manditory jobsearch requirements. After the first medical certificate and application for DSP i've been deliberately lied to and misdirected by centerlink staff, and upon advice from my doctors have now escalated this to the second review at the tribunal. All because I don't have a report about my disabilities written up by a psychiatrist, which is exactly what my occupational therapist has already written up (this got me access to NDIS) This system is being improved but I don't even know how a non disabled person would be able to defraud the system when the disabled people that need it can't even get on to it in the first place. In the two+ years now of trying to access this, I've been made homeless and lost just about everything I own. Which has made the entire process next to impossible for me, i'm just lucky I have a friend thats been able to help me get through all of this.

[@sharonhobbs4144]

DSP access isn't the same. DSP thinks you should be on the dole with your wheelchair and lack of arms because someone somewhere got a job like that. Once. NDIS has it's own rules about whether you are severely disabled enough . The problem is the number of hoops to jump through and how much it can cost. Bars access to the poor.

[@sol1500]

@@sharonhobbs4144 I'm well aware that DSP & NDIS are entirely separate from one another. But the thing both of them have in common is that if you're poor, you'll never get access to either.

[@sol1500]

@@mycosys Yea, DSP is a complete shit show.

[@MyTubeTube]

@@mycosys not without loooong wait lists and care that is limited by funding rules. For example, an adult getting an autism diagnosis can’t get that through the public health care system. Trying to access specialists through Medicare is still also incredibly expensive. They don’t give you diagnoses on one visit, or reports. I’m still trying to get DSP and the only reason I’m not homeless is a friend let’s me stay rent free. I lost my house too. The process is debilitating. I really wish they’d make access easier for the vulnerable.

[@peterohanlon6789]

If the NDIS is costing too much it’s because unscrupulous providers are gouging disabled peoples plans for everything they’ve got. One provider I heard about charges clients $37 to make a phone call. I hope Bill finds the rorters and makes them repay their ill gotten gains.

[@aussiejubes]

I got a quote for patching a wall, switching a screen door & changing 3 door knobs from an NDIS registered handyman and he quoted $1500...the worst part isn't that he's massively taking the piss, it's that there are people with less capacity who would end up paying that. Either thinking that's how it is, or being coaxed into it. Absolutely feral.

[@aussiejubes]

@Mijc Osis yeah I know. My point was, it's providers ripping the system and its participants off.

[@igitha..._]

I had service providers keep me on the phone for as long as humanly possible, forcing me to repeat myself over and over again about the same thing and then they would intentionally miscommunicate what I had said to the other party and force me to have to call again to try and rectify the issue! So many scamming 'service providers' screwing over legitimately and authentically eligible disabled individuals who have been through enough trauma and hardship in their lives without these parasites!!

[@selilatte]

My girl is on NDIS funding, so so grateful, it has and continues to help with her health condition.

[@cow_tools_]

As a New Zealander I'm torn between saying "Hey, we invented lamingtons stop lying", and "Lamington's suck, I'm glad we didn't invent them."

[@ivanolsen8596]

Do you have anything against the Peach Melba?

[@Erkle64]

The funny thing is that it was an Australian newspaper that claimed they were invented in New Zealand as a joke. We never claimed them in the first place.

[@cow_tools_]

@@Erkle64 Huh, I guess 'What Now' TV lied to me!

[@justmemimi7338]

I was critical of Shorten when Gillard was overthrown. However, I’ve been so impressed with him in his current position. It was disappointing to see people criticise the payments allocated to the NDIS in the current budget, but they don’t realise it will be a better service at a lower cost, which is a win for everyone. And yes, our NDIS is something to be proud of. Shorten will make it even better.

[@TheXeioken]

On ya for hitting a mil jordies team. Well deserved!

[@SCALLYWAG.1]

It's all those bloody yanks I tell ya

[@TitanSummers]

I've tried to get on NDIS and have decided that only people who have someone helping them or someone who does not really need it can get through the red tape to get it.

[@roseduste80]

Yep. It's a catch-22. Need a support worker to get NDIS, but need NDIS to get the support worker...

[@TitanSummers]

@@roseduste80 yep even my doctor struggled with the paper work. I gave up!!

[@abbeyjanegreen703]

Perhaps it will work now with bill in charge

[@theappc9043]

Yeah, that’s the problem.. If you’re smart enough to get a foot in the door, you are also smart enough to successfully grift off of it.. :(

[@shlongterminvesting]

Can totally agree my grandma is a carer for my disabled uncle and before Labor got into office it took forever to get anything done and the money didn't go as far now she's getting twice as many services and it's really helped her with caring for my uncle honestly and it's not even talked about instead you have property developers complaining about not being able to make 10 million this year instead of 8.

[@grahamreichhelm9945]

balling with the 2am post here in the states

[@qwertyp_]

Balling

[@TheChilledLiquidSoul]

true, true. me too.

[@WillItCreami]

Ballin

[@WayneManifesto]

4:40pm in Adelaide

[@obamacare2498]

Actually clutch

[@CountOnMeCare]

Love your insights Jordan. I'm an independent Support Coordinator in Sydney and honestly, I love cracking down on the 'Cowboy' support providers that I come across. If only the Quality and Safeguards Commission could receive more funding to adequately handle the number of complaints and speed up the resolution process. My partner and I are travelling to Perth in July to see your show. Really looking forward to it!

[@SirQuantization]

Thanks Jordies, I had some crack here and I was wondering if I should smoke it, but if Bill Shorten does it, I can do it too! edit: definitely a joke calm down lmao

[@notinterested8452]

That's how you serve your government best.

[@notinterested8452]

@Karl Schulze started with that one Austrian guy.

[@olmategamer]

My eldest boy would still not be able to talk if it wasn't for NDIS, so lucky to have the help!!

[@JaylanYilmaz]

Awesome! My kids educators at day care alerted me to my daughter speech development needing extra attention, although I think my baby just doesn't have much to say, I have just received a letter from NDIS saying my daughter was approved. I don't know exactly what's going to happen next as I haven't heard from NDIS just yet but I have been overwhelmed with the support and news that my girl will receive world class support in her speech development soon. If you don't mind sharing, may I ask what type of support I can expect for my baby? :)

[@olmategamer]

@@JaylanYilmaz The only reason we noticed our boys speech was so bad was when his younger brother passed him at such a young age. We took him to a speech therapist at the hospital and she was the one who pretty much said to get him checked for autism. Once he was diagnosed there was a bit of paperwork to go through but the support worker helped a lot. We were so lucky the speech therapist we got was amazing and within weeks there was a huge difference. They gave him a talking device for school but he never really used it as whatever they couldn't understand he would write. He's speech is so good now everyone can understand him, but one of the best things we did was put subtitles on the tv. It was amazing how much this helped his spelling and word use.

[@igitha..._]

My speech difficulties, motor tics, tremors and spasms have gotten worse because I've been waiting on singing lessons and a speech pathologist since 2019...

[@darthjade8021]

​@@JaylanYilmaz hey! I don't know if you still want an answer as you should already be through the next stages but reply if you want any info :) I'm a planner and happy to give a breakdown of the steps

[@JaylanYilmaz]

@@darthjade8021 Hey thanks for replying - we are now searching for a planner that is local, and would love to know more about what to look for or avoid!!

[@chrisdown2591]

We have struggled with NDIS. We have letters from multiple specialists and GP sent in over three years and although it is clear my partner has and suffers from a long term illness we have had our application rejected yet again. "We need more information" over and over again. And when I talk to any of the practitioners that work with my partner they have no idea what NDIS wants when it comes to the information they are supposed to give them. Seriously broken system!

[@tobymoore2185]

As someone on the ndis I’m so happy you’re taking about this the last provider I had was flapping about for 2 years when I was trying to find job experience

[@NeilBolandGuitaristWriter]

The NDIS middle man industry is one of the worst outcomes from this. Hundreds of new/upstart 'facilitation' companies taking $ to work out a 'plan' for each individual, and often doing a pretty poor job at it. Privatised roadblocks getting in between people in urgent need of support and the government.

[@shycrystal6714]

Dutton tried to take money away from the ndis and give it to submarines. I also wish that the ndis could be used without complication and fear of losing funding for clients.

[@JewTube001]

Government is still doing it. They'll be less welfare and more militarization.

[@thatdudeinasuit5422]

Yeah I had a bad time with the NDIS I'm epileptic and went to sign up in order to get cabcharge cards because I can't (and will never) be able to drive because my seizures are to frequent. We didn't even get as far as any sort of test and the woman just said in this contemptuous tone that I wasn't disabled enough. Forget the fact that I can't go more than a month without a seizure forget that I'm on three different types of medication all of which have chronic liver damage as a side effect, forget that because of my condition finding employment took me 10 years because everyone I went to was concerned I'd begin seizing all over the place. I just wasn't disabled enough for this woman. Frankly I just felt like jumping the table and punching her out.

[@theflano23]

Never thought I’d hear Jordan mention hitting the griddy

[@Eunostos]

NDIS took me from mentally ill to acutely suicidal, and i had to voluntarily withdraw after two suicide attempts. Great stuff! At one point a provider's helpline even responded to very specific plans by hanging up on me. Which i then followed through on (thankfully they were less effective plans than i thought). They were found to have done nothing wrong~

[@jamesfv1]

See it would be good to actually be given NDIS when we are disabled and not say we aren’t disabled enough. I am so angry to be honest, the budget pissed me off and broke our hearts.

[@EmmaGillespie-l6e]

I work in public mental health and there are far too many cowboys operating as private providers. They will bill clients for services they aren’t providing. They will take 30K (for instance) of a client’s funding (a years worth) in a number of months, using those funds to book holidays for clients (probably spending like 2K for a cheap holiday and pocketing the rest). I’ve known a provider who was using a client’s funding to buy weed for the client and they dressed it up as “medicinal cannabis”, despite the fact that it was obviously purchased from a dealer. They knew they could market themselves to vulnerable people who by essentially promising “free drugs” because it’s not coming directly from their own pocket. It’s terrifying.

[@Skittenmeow]

Had one provider bill me 425.10hrs for a single day where the service wasn't provided. $25000. All my funding, on the starting day of my NDIS Plan for the year. Not a mistake. My Plan Manager rejected the invoice, so he submitted 3 times under different company names. This is an NDIS Registered Provider. Who still shows up on their registered provider list. He came after me for payment, which I have no control over, and tried to get cash from me and destroyed a pile of my belongings. He drove a few 800km round trips to try extort money from me, as I had moved from the city. Had to get a restraining order, took multiple hearings at court, because he claimed not to speak English and I lived 400km away. Interpreter needed every time, but I was denied any support despite having a sensory processing disorder. Thank fuck for Legal Aid! He was travelling 400km to stalk me and threaten, but court was apparently too much of an ask, so the hearings were via phone with an interpreter on another phone and the line kept dropping out. He now has 82 five star Google reviews from fake accounts (their other reviews are from US, Canada, UK, UAE and can't find any that have left another Australian review.) Ndis Quality & Safeguards Commission has been ineffectual, not just for the threats and billing, but at preventing him doing this to others. He still hasn't had his NDIS Provider Registration removed, and it's been over a year since initial report, and hours of interviews with them. They have the court documents, text messages, email threats, and his affidavits admitting at least 25 individual breaches of NDIS code of conduct/ Practice Standards etc. And he has an active restraining order against him, from a participant he interacted with, which means he's not allowed to be an NDIS Provider or worker. I'm lucky to have only had the best experience with ndis providers, registered or unregistered, so this one guy stood out. He locked up a year of funding by being a dodgy fuck, and some providers volunteered to support for no cost, in the time I managed to get it sorted out and the funding out of quarantine. It was only a few weeks, however if my Plan Manager hadn't rejected his invoices and paid him it could have taken months, if ever for NDIA to recover the funding. I wouldn't have had any funding last year. Obviously they have a lot of catching up to do with complaints from dodgy providers from LNP era, and this is still trying to recapturing his scam business.

[@crystalincyberspace]

Have you tried writing to Bill Shorten about this?

[@Digitaliceaddict]

Jordie cover the stadium in tassie, nothing sketchy or corrupt I don’t think we just feel a little left out.

[@Mephiston]

The problem with this is that now they're going too far the other way and cracking WAY down on some important items, and restricting the once necessary flexibility on particular items. For example, assistive technology. What used to require a "reasonable and necessary" justification form (in my example, noise cancelling headphones, because I am neurodiverse and get overwhelmed / overstimulated easily), now required that, AND an OT justification (which costs another 300 dollars of NDIS funding IF YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR PLAN to get) in order to even get to the "hey ndis, here is a purchase, and here is my invoice, please fund this" stage. THEN on top of that, the people who okay or deny the funding are insurance agents, and NOT people with lived in experience. Like, you tell someone who cant go outside for whatever NDIS approved disability that they should jump through a million hoops to prove that they need a tablet device in order to interact with specialists, conduct online learning, or even keep in touch with other people. It honestly feels like they're scaling right back to basics and cutting off everything in order to then go item line by item line to justify whether or not its okay to claim certain expenses, but then forgot to do that last step. As much as I fucking HATE the corruption introduced by the liberals, they made it significantly easier for people with plans to get things that are now classified as "everyday expenses" (as though someone who is on disability AND has an NDIS plan can afford assistive technology, because the disabled are just welfare cheats and are funding holidays and booze with that money am i right?). What's more, they've made it even more difficult for people to actually get on the NDIS. People with fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome, for example, are being turned away at the appeals process before any reviews are done. I challenge anyone who knows someone with moderate to severe FM and CFS to tell them that they dont need support. I guarantee you're going to see a person disability instantly healed and fully capable of swinging a punch faster than a queensland police officer on a minority. All that said, the bureaucracy is much smoother now, and shit gets done with shorten back at the helm. Unfortunately, a lot of people and services are slipping through the cracks now that they're tightening up the legislation and rules, and making it much less flexible. It's very much a case of the people who abuse the system are ruining it for the people who need it.

[@unholyXromance]

I'm on the NDIS, and it is in desperate need of fixing at the moment

[@shazzpazz]

Hey mate, I work in the NDIS and can say that it seems like it's headed for a healthier place under shorten. I would have a look at support coordinators though. A lot of them have vested interest, conflict of interest or outright scam people. It's awful.

[@igitha..._]

Tim Watts MP's Victorian phone number was disconnected from March until I informed parliament last week. Walter, his secretary, also passed away. I handed in a document to the NDIS Royal Commission and a visual timeline of what has occurred in the last five and a half years to the NDIS and I'm being sent in circles again with no help. I'm yet to feel any sense of renewed optimism about the whole NDIS\NDIA agenda.

[@daniellacey9547]

I used to work in the NDIS contact centre, I can think of half a dozen changes that would improve or save lives in one stroke

[@tashistar]

How "many" would they cost? Idk, how "many" are your life and rights worth? Could we save that "many" on you and put it to better use serving the requirements on people with disability?

[@elijahcaon8094]

I have had the ndis since 2021 I have level 3 autism, often non speaking, and extremely severe complex ptsd and I basically had privatised people who knew nothing about me giving me plans that by their own system were 25% of what I needed. Eventually I got given the correct amount of funding and it's changed my life. But I've also been sexually harassed by multiple support workers and had a support coordinator steal $10,000 of my funding. I wish people stopped blaming us for this. It isn't like we even get given the money, unless people are self managed and people like me can't do that because we aren't able to, so it's not us ripping the scheme off

[@kerrumz1]

Imagine Shorten being Prime Minister all those years ago

[@abbeyjanegreen703]

I cried when he lost, he would of and probably still be a great prime minister

[@ivanolsen8596]

@@abbeyjanegreen703 Instead we got the worst Prime Minister Australia ever had. A total disaster.

[@tahliamobile]

Imagine if Australia implemented his proposed fire fighting fleet.

[@whathappenedtoearth6495]

@Tahlia M well in his defence "it wouldn't have been his job to hold the hose", so who cares 😉

[@dazzamcgrazza3043]

My daughters NDIS support claim was identified as a complex case (legacy). Under Morrison, NDIS case manager rolled out a top 3 law firm to fight our claim. 9 months of legal bureaucracy designed to break us emotionally and financially. Under Albo, (and shorten), law firm was pushed aside and we worked directly with NDIS experts to develop an acceptable plan.. Thanks Bill.

[@sharonhobbs4144]

That's marvellous! We just finished fighting the NDIA in the AAT with similar attempts at intimidation and red herrings. I was supported by an advocate or we would have lost out.

[@rubenm5138]

The health system need to change. My partner is dying from heart desease and is well past her 3 month waiting list for open heart surgery. Doesn't even know not just when but if she'll get it..... The health system needs exposing

[@abbeyjanegreen703]

I hope she gets the help she needs soon ❤

[@TimmyR94]

Highly recommend searching Grace Disability and the atrocities they did with their NDIS/SRS accommodation in Melton & Sydenham, Victoria. They had their license suspended and both facilities were shut down yet were granted a license to reopen under a different company same. Gracemanor, formerly known as Meadowbrook, was deregistered after an extensive state government investigation identified bullying, coercion and abuse of residents, uninhabitable living conditions, insufficient food, falsified records and forged residents’ signatures.

[@amybrooks4669]

the NDIS is so fucked. i have a HEART CONDITION from years of anorexia and am sometimes unable to stand up without chest pain, and i don't qualify.

[@ladycaissia1547]

I have autism. But because I was diagnosed before NDIS, I also don't qualify for NDIS. And getting help on a mental healthcare plan, like I used to be able to do, is now too expensive. I hate the NDIS. Meanwhile I get bombarded on social media with ads for NDIS funded getaways. I can't afford therapy, let alone a holiday.

[@dabzvapelord]

As someone who works in the mental health field I appreciate the NDIS. HOWEVER there is a fundamental flaw in the system, the philosophy that it operates under has a massive issue. This philosophy is deficit based. When a social worker/psychiatrist/whoever is applying for the NDIS they have to say everything that is 'wrong' with the person and why they won't get better. The thing is, people's lives improve with the care and therapies provided through the NDIS so then the funding is at risk of disappearing and the person's life gets worse. Also the client will often have to read the application and have their worst fears proven to them by an official document. In my experience this often sets them back.

[@sammypanda]

The greens are more likely to succeed with certain pro-worker policies because they make their purpose as a party irrefutably clear - today's labor structurally feel they have to be more gentle with things because they believe it to be politically non-strategic for their big tent. It's an equation of what is best for their political standing and then some for the country. I know this is entertainment - but our political system is kinda constructed to enable collaboration. If Greens were a major party, Labor would still be able to make the recommendations they want to make. It's rarely ever X party implemented Y better than Z especially with two "leftist" parties collaborating like Greens and Labor. The only people i understand complaining about greens are those who are doing well in society since they don't need what greens (and progressive labor) policies advocate for. As for the rest of us, the greens' policies are fine. Lidia Thorpe; i honestly don't care. Brown paper bag people are infinitely more problematic than a lady who is a little too loud and bothersome. Not to mention she left the party in light of disagreements anyway... Wwwwhich i gotta add - having no real strong mechanism for disagreements being heard and managed within your party/group is a huge issue to have and i fear Labor has stumbled into an era of this.

[@rtmpgt]

Do the Greens get funding from the Unions?

[@rtmpgt]

@@dragonzord6615 Their rich mates in... the unions? Who are funded... By workers?

[@libertusprimus]

The fuck is a brown paper bag person? Lol

[@rtmpgt]

@@dragonzord6615 Scotty passed those, next?

[@rtmpgt]

​@@mycosys the unions and punters like me?

[@mattr8750]

"My brain functions properly.." Oh come on Jordies, I come to you for the truth!

[@jadewilliams1983]

I access the NDIS and it has changed my life for the better as a legally blind person but it causes me so much anxiety due to inadequately trained stuff and there’s always the threat of having my life changing funding slashed. I also used to work in the system and it’s impossible to navigate if you aren’t trained in the area so I’m often helping friends and family friends with applications and advocacy. I’m hoping that Labor can improve the system.

[@MononymousM]

Thanks so much for what you're doing for people even whilst limited yourself - I'm on DSP thanks to a temporary support worker being provided separate funding to help me with it, but now that I don't have that, I basically have no chance of navigating the NDIS despite serious need due to the nature of my condition and a lack of help. I know you're aware of this, but the support you're giving to your loved ones is likely going to be the difference between getting help and getting screwed. So good onya.

[@igitha..._]

NDIS. I've been waiting on an electric wheelchair that I was approved for in January 2020. It has been paid for, however I'm waiting on 4 accessories that would render the electric wheelchair usable, and yet this seems to be too big of an ask for all NDIA\NDIS and Service Provider parties involved. The place that has the wheelchair (ILS) called me last November and effectively threatened to sell it on to another customer at a reduced price "because it is taking up show room space"... and yet they couldn't possibly assist with getting the outstanding accessories in either through their own company or by rebranding another one they got off the internet in order to fulfill the essential request! I was delegated Occupational Therapists that didn't know what a shower chair with padded arm rests was and instead suggested pool noodles with duct tape. Had "carers" that were unable to communicate, were incompetent, stole from me, took advantage of me, and couldn't handle a grocery list. Had 'Support Co-Ordinators" that did next to nothing, as well as stole most of my funding and then didnt turn up to Plan Reviews. Went through the Quality and Complaints Commission and would not get a call back for 8-10 months at a time. Had "carers" call the cops on me for a wellbeing check when their own staff member had sited me as calm and fine in person that morning. Had NDIS accuse me of being a hoarder when in fact I have Autism and ADD. Didn't get a Physio or OT for over 12 months after starting with NDIS. Was recommended singing lessons by previous speech pathologist but NDIS doesn't want to acknowledge half of the documentation provided by previous care teams. Was supposed to get help with a door handle extender for the automobile, the OT also couldn't handle that. OT prescribed incontinence underwear that was for pre-teens, I couldnt figure out why they didn't fit and ended up with a perianal abscess on top of the physical disabilities and pain I already experience. I had internal plan reviews and won a claim through the AAT but somehow had less services after winning than beforehand. Have experienced more discrimination since being on NDIS than beforehand. Was promised help with career and community access that never came to fruition. Keep being told how lucky I am to have alllll this funding but instead I can't even get the help from 'Support Co-Ordinators" who are neither supporting nor co-ordinating. In fact they seem to be un-supporting and unco-ordinating. There is no cohesion. The Planners do not oversee the Support Co-Ordinators and the Financial Plan Management doesn't keep check as to whether the client is being taken advantage of. As far as I can tell the dysfunction is entirely by design, to ensure that most NDIS clients are burned out and lacking trust and support more than ever before. And now over half a decade on the NDIS I am beyond tired of repeating myself over and over again to NDIS\NDIA, my case went to the MP's office three months ago and I found out the person who went in to bat for me ... died! Who wants to help me make an electric wheelchair out of a trolley and a lawnmower??????

[@igitha..._]

Great to see a space where I can finally feel heard about what has happened as a direct experience of NDIS, and no one gives a flying F... Was actually looking forward to feeling like I could relate to someone on the subject. FML.

[@lisar9408]

I'm on the NDIS and I have been able to start living, as oppossed to merely existing. Huge difference. Thanks Bill.

[@unflappable3551]

Many thanks to Bill and Julia for the NDIS.

[@limemilk9712]

Max Chandler Mather came to my school which is both elite and private to talk about housing. In which he said The normal lines about public housing but he also drop this pearl in “Fair enough to property developers they are just running a business”.

[@forchyforchy5456]

Im in Canada and i have a super rare neurological condition that acts like a muscle disorder and it’s incredibly difficult to qualify for anything. Even the treatments took years of getting rejected because they’re expensive. There’s no money for disabled people but there’s giant tax cuts for companies making billions but can’t find money to help the disabled. ( i live in a conservative province that’s constantly pulling money out of healthcare and cutting taxes).

[@DerykRobosson]

It's a good thing that you've not yet been roped into a MAID solution.

[@forchyforchy5456]

@@DerykRobosson probably one day they’ll try. Id prefer a maid over MAID.

[@TheDrInkduff]

I appreciate Jordan's content and agree most of the time (NDIS is excellent!) but I believe Labor does fall short in some areas and the Greens have better policies in some instances (what's going on with all of these new coal and gas projects going ahead?) I wish he would be more critical of Labor where is it warranted and give credit where it is due to good Greens policy rather than always defending Labor and attacking the Greens based on what Lidia Thorpe is doing. We should support good policy and critique bad policy, wherever it comes, rather than blindly supporting a particular political party

[@rtmpgt]

@@dragonzord6615 When have the Greens ever held government?

[@rtmpgt]

@@dragonzord6615 There's plenty of other publications that do a great job of being critical of Labor. In fact I think you'll find most other media outlets are.

[@rtmpgt]

​@@dragonzord6615 it is still _growing_, how is it being cut? There is serious bloat in the NDIS thanks to 9 years of Liberals and a shitload of backdoor corruption. They are increasing funding _and_ cutting the fat thanks to regulating all the dodge providers. It might _look_ like a per-capita cut, but it's a per-capita cut from the _current_ system. Once reformed, it's an increase.

[@andrewditton7226]

I hate both labor and the greens 🤣

[@rtmpgt]

@@andrewditton7226 Then what're you doing here then?

[@populadopula]

Thank you for posting, you work so hard for us

[@adam_nathan]

A genuine area where I think they lack vision is the way they refuse to rollback coalition policies and their emissions reduction policy which is heavily reliant on the adoption of electric vehicles, we need to be making our cities less car dependent but Labor is guilty of funding environmentally destructive roads like the Coomera Connector (a duplication of the Pacific motorway) which will displace hundreds of Koalas. I agree that Labor is a lot better than the Coalition and they’ve done some amazing things, but I still believe they have a lack of vision and abundance of inertia in many areas. Another instance being how the South Australian Labor government increased penalties for environmentalist protestors and told the mining industry “our state is at your disposal”

[@rtmpgt]

Where're the resources for solar panels and lithium batteries going to come from, the fucking renewables fairy?

[@J.C.Dent0n]

Waited all day for something worth watching to pop up on KZbin. Thanks Jordies.

[@darcy5900]

Thanks for this jordy… I’m on NDIS after being hit by a car, loosing my leg and having chronic pain for the rest of my life, I’m only 22. NDIS is so complicated and they refuse to give me housing so now because the house I’m at, only has bedrooms upstairs, I’ve fallen down them twice.. don’t worry about Centrelink though, I’m not disabled enough for the disability pension. (Don’t forget I can’t work, piss myself constantly due to incontinence issues from splitting my bladder open in the accident. Dunno what I’m gonna do

[@minksrule2196]

If they can't provide you with housing can they at least provide with you with a chair lift so you can go upstairs?

[@umbriasolaris3365]

I am on the NDIS, it has been life changing for me but with that being said, it is failing me in so many ways. I have a physical disability caused by a connective tissue disorder which makes all my joints hypermobile and makes walking and even standing some days super difficult, but thats not what I receive NDIS funding for... My physical issue doesn't qualify for NDIS because it is considered a medical issue and not permanent as it can be helped (but not cured) with exercise, physiotherapy, hydrotherapy and massage, all of which is completely unaffordable on a pension. So what I actually receive NDIS for is my Autism... the only problem with that is that they will not fund anything for my physical disability and I can't use any of my funding for my physical disability. So while my physical disability continues to deteriorate at least I receive funding for support workers to help me with cooking and cleaning which puts less strain on my joints so that helps somewhat. Don't get me wrong, I am super thankful for the support I am receiving, but each new plan they are providing me more and more funding for support workers due to my loss of physical capabilities, but they won't provide me funding that will slow down my physical deterioration and will likely give me more independence and reduce my need for so much support worker funding. At my plan review (earlier this year) I submitted 4 highly detailed specialist reports stating that if my physical issue continues to go untreated I will soon need far more intensive support, all of those reports were ignored. The new plan I received has six times the amount of support worker funding as my previous plan, but no increase to funding for "capacity building". The LNP really screwed the pooch on this one, if Bill Bhorton can fix not only the overcharging by providers but also issues like mine, in the long run it will save the scheme a significant amount of money. All of our disabilities should be considered when doing our plans, not just which ones meet the "access requirements"

[@TheProfessorSteeze]

NDIS providers are some of the biggest grifters out there

[@jamesbeach5445]

as someone who is on the NDIS the most frustrating thing is when you go to have a plan review you dont even get someone who understands youre disability or the help you need there not even qualified you can litterally be a everyday joe and be an ndis planner

[@TobiasTheWolf]

I’ll never get sick of your Simpsons references

[@katgood5459]

Got on NDIS in 2021 and it's made it possible for me to actually save money due to my medical bills getting covered fully or partially covered. I'm also on the DSP and it's getting harder and harder to cover medical bills and medication costs because bulk billing is disappearing and half of my medications don't fall under PBS, I've only found ONE specialist that bulk billed me and now she's stopped since late last year. NDIS has made it possible for me to move out and live independently (with NDIS funded support workers) and so that I can attend university.

[@gerardroll6468]

Jordies… Congratulations on passing the 1 million+ subscribers milestone champ 👏👏👏. I hope we get to see an unboxing video for when you get the gold plaque from KZbin. Best of luck for future success mate 🤞😁🤞

[@gingerznz5742]

Lamingtons and Scribe? You can only steal one great kiwi thing at a time

[@gormold4163]

So is New Zealand just Australia’s Canada.

[@balung]

Yeah, basically.

[@MonochromeWench]

The problem with the NDIS that most people experience is the NDIA is full of unqualified people making decicions about how disabled someone is. For some people (like myself) It takes years to get the application approved even though I have a permanent physical disability. The system is far from perfect but we are all in a better place with it than without it.

[@Nigel_B]

Shorten is cutting $15bn from the NDIS funding, and disability organisations believe that it will have an adverse impact on the NDIS support offered to vulnerable Australians.

[@lisasteel6817]

Yes it it already happening. People are already being denied and being told that due to the “future cuts” they will not qualify. I used to work in disability and I still know lots of families and still have connections in disability.

[@rtmpgt]

​@@dragonzord6615the entire "Corporate welfare cheats" rant?

[@joshjonson2368]

RIP

[@uloola6156]

I work as a soletrader with the NDIS and have heard a lot of first person testimonies that are really shocking.

[@Mec126]

Just saw your show in Brisbane, just wanted to say good on ya for fighting the good fight jordy

[@culturebreath369]

"He might not be pregnant, but he always delivers." - someone one time.

[@namehere4506]

Great video like always. took me 5 minutes to write y because I forgot I was on a german kezboard.

[@patrickmason2756]

Bloody kezboard

[@brentmcknight5344]

I manage two of my kids NDIS plans. I couldn’t afford to pay for their needs without it. I have had a few issues with providers but generally most have been honest so far. Biggest problem is getting therapist in regional areas. Not enough by far.

[@Arron-S]

Anyone who had to access the ndis doesn't sing its praises.....

[@troypetersen1063]

Jordan wearing black these days after wearing random rags for such a long time makes me feel like Luke Skywalker in Return of the Jedi.

[@zse3012]

As a victim of a media hit job yourself, you should be able to empathize with lidia thorpe

[@Coppertine_]

To explain how tough it is to get into NDIS, I am a High Functioning Autistic (diagnosed at 3), took me 6 MONTHS to get accepted into NDIS (that is WITH white lieing about current severities), their system is one of the most infantalising to do (you have to write an "about me" like you're 6, i.e "I live with my mother, father, brother and sister. I have a dog and cat named XYZ and XTY", "I wake up at around 7am and sleep at around 12am". You also have to explain a lot) Then you have to write three goals (Short Term, Mid Term, Long Term, all written in the same style as before), these goals affect EVERYTHING in your treatments. If you fuck up the writing on any of your goals, you don't get the correct funding to the right account and therefore aren't able to get the correct provider since they request Core Building when MOST companies use Core Building... Also that transportation money? yeah that's ment for your support worker who is ment to be with you most of the day... I drive by my self and am able to get anywere, when my mum told NDIS when they questioned about my transportation, they threatened with taking away my transportion money (they haven't yet as I noticed...). Also, the accounts can be dried up really quickly on 1 section more than the others, so you would request a review.. this took another 6 months just to get us to get a review for a plan that has been rolling over for the past 3-4 years. (and you're expected to spend every cent on each account since if the account rolls over, the money is reset back to the usual amount, wasting it and forcing them to give you less). One more thing, if anyone is looking to join NDIS, PLEASE go for Plan Managed, it will save you a TON of hastle of paper work.

[@the_fitness_doc]

Friday afternoon upload? What a weekend present from the Jordstanator

[@tuukka1827]

Yeah, coming with pranks too!

[@bruceb7464]

Easy to solve the NDIS. Encourage the not for profits back into the field. Set up public service providers, Encourage local government back into the field. (When I say encourage I mean seed funding and guarantees.) Aim for well over 60% to be from these service providers. Set up standard rates for specific services - rates the not for profits and public service are able to work and remain financial under. So $X/hour for a physio, $Y/hour for a nurse, $Z/hour for a home assistance, etc. Private providers can also put their hand up to work at these rates. If they want a higher rate they have to offer their rate competitively to Government. Government will select some and subsidize them for service provision if there is the excess demand - so the client doesn't pay more from their allocation. Clients are not just allocated a lumpsum but a breakdown of the number hours of physio etc allowed - to be determined in consultation with the client and reviewed periodically. Mobility aids etc only from suppliers that have competitively bid for their supply. See - Simple. I am sure it is not that simple - but it doesn't seem an insurmountable problem to me. At the moment some private providers are getting away with highway robbery - supping at the seeming unregulated honey pot of Government money. They have to be removed from the system. The honey pot needs to be regulated.

[@bruceb7464]

@@mycosys OK - Good to know. With all the complaints and budget over run clearly some things are going wrong. How would you fix it?

[@michaelhudson5741]

Yep. My grandmother was charged $180 a month for mowing her lawn x2 in her ndis/Aged care service provider. It cost me literally $5 worth of fuel and about twenty minutes with a push mower by myself after she went into aged care.

[@michaelhudson5741]

@@mycosys I don't blame you for being misguided. Both schemes run on very similar frameworks. Community providers service both. It is in their best interest that their services provide the same for both. It will be built into their mission statement. They will streamline this to lower overheads. It's a business not a charity

[@memberHD]

$180 for 2 visits isn't unreasonable. $90 to have your lawn and yards to be taken care of completely is a pretty good deal.

[@sharonhobbs4144]

​@@mycosys and that's called age discrimination too yet we allow it.. for now

[@sharonhobbs4144]

​@@michaelhudson5741 they are far from the same

[@LLuann]

Classic Scribe reference. “not many if any”. NZer at heart

[@mathewdeering]

A lot of bloat from the providers for sure -- my Mum, who just deceased, had her last NDIS assessment at $350,000. FOR ONE YEAR. I mean, cool - but she was a bed-bound 65 year old with one carer and an oxygen machine. Over a third of a mil for one year. Some SERIOUS cream for the providers.

[@mathewdeering]

@@mycosys This is true. She only had two hours AM and two hours PM though. I was the live-in coverage! :D

[@tusheerdatt3441]

I genuinely can't wait for the video on the PwC scandal and info