FRIEZA OR CELL: WHO IS BEST FOR UNIVERSE 7? | A Dragonball Discussion

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7 жыл бұрын

In Dragon Ball Super, Frieza is back and he is going to be tricky for Goku and Team Universe 7 to handle. Might they have saved them a lot of bother by choosing Perfect Cell instead? Let's discuss which villain would be best for the Tournament of Power!
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@dr.panicphd.5305
@dr.panicphd.5305 7 жыл бұрын
I would have preferred Cell just to get a scene like this: Cell - "Goku, Vegeta, 17, 18, Krillin, Piccolo, Gohan, good to see you all again. Remember when I killed you, killed your son, absorbed you, punched you through a plane, blew a hole in your chest and killed your dad? Good times." Tien - "Remember how I kept blasting you into the ground for a whole episode?" Cell - "Go fuck yourself."
@solas-5176
@solas-5176 7 жыл бұрын
Dr. Panic PhD. Kiko-how you doin'?
@DraftyCoast
@DraftyCoast 7 жыл бұрын
Cell - "Perfect"
@HolyShield
@HolyShield 7 жыл бұрын
OMG yesss!!! xD
@theBabyDead
@theBabyDead 7 жыл бұрын
Didn't he blow a hole in Trunks' chest, though? Cause you didn't name trunks :D
@Jasmerism
@Jasmerism 7 жыл бұрын
KiKo how ya doing.
@frozunyogert6159
@frozunyogert6159 7 жыл бұрын
Frieza: Genocidal maniac with an interminable grudge against Goku Cell: Narcissistic perfectionist whose one goal is to just amuse himself
@amulet1165
@amulet1165 6 жыл бұрын
Snakeway Skywalker celltard
@zingerific8209
@zingerific8209 6 жыл бұрын
Ricky Fleir wow, you sure showed him.
@TheTokuMemer
@TheTokuMemer 6 жыл бұрын
Snakeway Skywalker cell sounds like a anti-hero
@RampagingFlippy030
@RampagingFlippy030 5 жыл бұрын
Scottishmemer He could be.... if he tried hard enough.
@DemonicMonkey88
@DemonicMonkey88 5 жыл бұрын
Frieza: Regular strong dude. Cell: Majin Buu without the weaknesses. Picking Cell would be a mistake, what he is makes him a much bigger threat.
@DarkcIoud1111
@DarkcIoud1111 7 жыл бұрын
I would have preferred Cell over Freeza. Not only does Cell know all the main attacks of almost every character, but can also heal because of Piccolo and gets a power boost from it because of his Saiyan DNA. While not as strong as Buu, he has many of the benefits and is a better strategist as well. Plus if you want to explain any boost in power Cell may undergo, it could be explained as him training in HFIL or he could blow himself up a lot and get a boost over and over again.
@Drethrake
@Drethrake 6 жыл бұрын
That kinda kills it for him at the same time. Freeza has moves that the others do NOT have. Cell can just replicate whatever the Z fighters have. And while that is quite resourceful, it might not be as MARKETABLE. We all know how MARKETABLE a character using a NEW AWESOME TECHNIQUE is.
@rowzysecondch7080
@rowzysecondch7080 6 жыл бұрын
Apparently, *Frieza* is actually preferred by *Fans* than *Cell* ■ He's More Popular ■ He's Character is Amazing ■ Frieza have *originality* The case with *Frieza* is his bottomless potential which is *better than the Saiyan's have* with *Cell* he only gain it because of _cElLs_ ______________________ He's also more conservative due to the less time he needed to be animated, He has also larger capability on becoming the next good guy (which I doubt)
@theheavenlybuddha1859
@theheavenlybuddha1859 6 жыл бұрын
Cell has freezas moves and king colds but he just decided to use the z fighters move to show how much more powerful he is when he uses them
@nicolaspadgett2772
@nicolaspadgett2772 5 жыл бұрын
@@rowzysecondch7080 well technically, he doesnt have infinite potential, he does have a LOT of potential that he can obtain much quicker than saiyans. Saiyand on the other hand have infinite potential, but its MUCH slower and harder to draw it out.
@themagicalonionfairy7455
@themagicalonionfairy7455 4 жыл бұрын
@@Drethrake he can also replicate friezas attacks he literally did a death beam
@crane7472
@crane7472 7 жыл бұрын
They should bring back Nappa to annoy Vegeta.
@Neutral_Tired
@Neutral_Tired 6 жыл бұрын
Vegeeeeta, vegeeeeeeeta
@Uyarasuk
@Uyarasuk 6 жыл бұрын
Too bad Nappa is gone. I liked the relationship he had with Vegeta. But I guess killing him after they had been partners for years and were a species on the verge of extinction was meant to solidify Vegeta as an ice-cold killer.
@4facedshepherd59
@4facedshepherd59 6 жыл бұрын
*Remember the bug planet Vegeta?*
@theheavenlybuddha1859
@theheavenlybuddha1859 6 жыл бұрын
Uyarasuk well nappa was brought back to life in gt but was kill by Vegeta when he literally destroyed a whole city but it would have been cool to see a super Saiyan nappa also they both kinda hated each other but they use to have raditz to release that hate on him in the form of teasing for his low power level
@Keegstar
@Keegstar 6 жыл бұрын
Hey vegeta! Punch me! *vegeta punches nappa and nappa goes flying*
@dreadrath
@dreadrath 7 жыл бұрын
Frieza's a better choice because Cell is just too damn handsome and perfect. It would be too distracting.
@AGO339
@AGO339 7 жыл бұрын
then we could see God of Dstruction Helles (universe 2) flirting with him because he's so perfect
@salt8921
@salt8921 7 жыл бұрын
dreadrath sorry I was busy staring at cells jawline
@jaeten8690
@jaeten8690 7 жыл бұрын
dreadrath You know he'd be in his imperfect form if he gets revived right... He's not reasonable in his imperfect form , he'd just try to absorb 17 and 18.
@AGO339
@AGO339 7 жыл бұрын
trenisa walker he came back perfect without 18 before.
@slambamfan12312
@slambamfan12312 7 жыл бұрын
that might be nice. his eye candy might distract the enemy fighters so they become east targets lol
@TheWorldBelowDnD
@TheWorldBelowDnD 7 жыл бұрын
cell is a culmination of the best fighters in the universe... the point of this whole tournament/ battle royale thing is to pit the best fighters in each universe against each other... Cell was literally born for this and he's sitting out...
@gabeitches87
@gabeitches87 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly, lmao.
@Jetsiuc
@Jetsiuc 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Cell is an artificial life form and, more than likely, doesn't have a soul. He's gone for good.
@gabeitches87
@gabeitches87 7 жыл бұрын
Vinícius Panato Osório Pretty sure he does have a soul.
@Jetsiuc
@Jetsiuc 7 жыл бұрын
... Gonna elaborate on that, bub?
@plastikcaik2585
@plastikcaik2585 7 жыл бұрын
Vinícius Panato Osório Android 17 and 18 were brought back to life. You're being Cell-cist.
@readthiscomment6748
@readthiscomment6748 7 жыл бұрын
Cell: goten. I'm going to teach you a technique I failed to use against your brother Goten: what's tha- Cell: DOOOODGE!!!!!! *roundhouse kicks him around the face*
@mezasepkmn
@mezasepkmn 7 жыл бұрын
LMFAOOO
@readthiscomment6748
@readthiscomment6748 7 жыл бұрын
Get rid of yamcha and he would be crazy op.
@readthiscomment6748
@readthiscomment6748 7 жыл бұрын
I think that yamcha was a part of cell but died when that deathnote guy wrote cells name down
@Slimedude99
@Slimedude99 6 жыл бұрын
Lucid Dreamer just add zenos dna lmao
@m3tr0id86
@m3tr0id86 6 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair, Android 21 in Dragon Ball FighterZ does have the qualities of Majin Buu and by extension, Mr. Perfect Cell after he was turned into a doughnut.
@AlfredoTaken
@AlfredoTaken 7 жыл бұрын
I think that it would have been interesting if, in the scenario that Cell came back, that he requested that Gohan join him in the Room of Spirit and Time. That way, they could give some interesting interactions between them, and have Cell train up to a level that would make him a force to be reckoned with (though perhaps not the level of Golden Freeza, as they do have a limited amount of time to work with).
@readthiscomment6748
@readthiscomment6748 7 жыл бұрын
All he would need is four months
@rd2a494
@rd2a494 7 жыл бұрын
they have less than an hour until the tourney starts...
@tombstonex3244
@tombstonex3244 6 жыл бұрын
bsmusic but what if they kept damaging cell to the point of near death then kept on giving him senzu beans?
@hayatbelirtisiz
@hayatbelirtisiz 4 жыл бұрын
@@tombstonex3244 he can regerenate
@schizophrenic_rambler
@schizophrenic_rambler 8 ай бұрын
​@@tombstonex3244yeah, he wouldn't need it. He blew himself up to smithereens and regenerated like nothing, and when that happened he closed the gap between semi-perfect and ss2.
@TheColdestBoi
@TheColdestBoi 7 жыл бұрын
If Cell finds out goku got freeza before him for a TOURNAMENT he is going to shit out a few Jr's from sheer rage.
@derpz9049
@derpz9049 7 жыл бұрын
Toei is too lazy to draw all of Cell's spots.
@123654789950
@123654789950 7 жыл бұрын
I can imagine Toei giving a new transformation that's just a recolor and it'll cover his spots but that chance is lost now
@shaq_869
@shaq_869 7 жыл бұрын
Derpz The Shitposter tru that
@stephencarter7321
@stephencarter7321 7 жыл бұрын
It's not laziness, nor Toei's idea. Toriyama brought him back. Plus, it's not just the spots, Cell has a very detailed design, very hard to draw
@gregushefflus430
@gregushefflus430 7 жыл бұрын
it's a joke
@readthiscomment6748
@readthiscomment6748 7 жыл бұрын
Krillin has a lot of spots on his head
@thebaronlouis8619
@thebaronlouis8619 7 жыл бұрын
If Freeza tries to pull anything they can just kill him. If Cell tries to pull anything they have to overkill him because all he needs is one cell to come back stronger than ever.
@megabladechronicles962
@megabladechronicles962 7 жыл бұрын
at their current power goku and vegeta can kill cell no problem probably in their normal super saiyan forms
@matturban9077
@matturban9077 7 жыл бұрын
But Freeza is dead already. How could they kill him? I'm Just curious what you think
@vixenxia2475
@vixenxia2475 6 жыл бұрын
Actually you can kill Dead people, they're slightly more durable as in they're like Zombies but they can die, and once you kill them, they cease to exist, as was explained in DBZ for the fear of any time something dire was happening to the other world or someone who was only revived for a day.
@ki11j0y2
@ki11j0y2 3 жыл бұрын
But he wouldn't try anything it's a tournament he would abide by the rules becuase that's his thing it would prove a chance to do the ultimate cell games he would be increadly down for that and what would he want A. To be brought back which would be aweosme for later arcs and B. See gohan and be upset with ow he's progressed or impressed either or so why wouldn't cell not be good and if he did come back so then that's a fight for them to have another arc with boom more DBZ fights problem where
@DareMurdok
@DareMurdok 7 жыл бұрын
Perfect Cell is far more balanced than Frieza, I like Cell because he was just generally a more well rounded villain. If you took away his Frieza genes and Gero programming, he'd be pretty much a Saiyan/Human/Namekian hybrid. Cell likes to learn and get stronger, he made a tournament and likes to fight with rules, he even had concern for the planet being destroyed by Goku's Kamehameha. He'd be a far better choice as a team player and more believable as someone who would "turn good" similar to Vegeta.
@leirbag1595
@leirbag1595 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, who would have thought that Vegeta could turn good back in the saiyan saga?
@leirbag1595
@leirbag1595 6 жыл бұрын
+Ricky Fleir Veeery bright. Just going around in the comments and spamming "Celltard" to everyone who likes Cell. It makes you look really mature, you know.
@TartaruzTheGreat
@TartaruzTheGreat 6 жыл бұрын
Cell used to drink people tho, I don't see him being redeemed
@ricardomdcaldeira
@ricardomdcaldeira 6 жыл бұрын
DoktorDare Agreed Frieza is cool but a bit too one dimensional.. I find Cell the best overall villain of any DB
@yocapo32
@yocapo32 6 жыл бұрын
I mean, Vegeta's killed a lot more people than Cell did, and he's the deuteragonist these days, so anything's possible, really.
@FLAMINGBABYPUNCH
@FLAMINGBABYPUNCH 7 жыл бұрын
I really hope Perfect Cell meets adult Gohan one day.
@acej08
@acej08 7 жыл бұрын
FLAMINGBABYPUNCH yup gohan would beat him in his based form if cell goes out of line.. shooo he can fight freeza too if he wants too.. he's the leader
@Jay.waveee
@Jay.waveee 7 жыл бұрын
as do i
@wdsansyboy1134
@wdsansyboy1134 6 жыл бұрын
Cell: Oh hello gohan Gohan: Cell? How are you alive? Cell: Goku Gohan: oh god dammit dad Cell: Gohan Gohan: yeah? Cell: DOOOOOOOOOODGE YOU FOOL
@R4ULTR
@R4ULTR 6 жыл бұрын
There's a scene with both of them interacting in FighterZ now 🌚
@kevintello5988
@kevintello5988 5 жыл бұрын
yeah same
@eniotnaize
@eniotnaize 7 жыл бұрын
Cell by far. He is smarter, he can use more strategy than Freeza. He is not as evil as Freeza. Freeza could kill Goku in his back just for fun, Cell wouldnt. We can trust more Cell than Freeza. And Because regeneration, that is usefull
@melancholicthinker9291
@melancholicthinker9291 7 жыл бұрын
Antoine Gérard I get that Cell is smart but the reason he has refined language and is as intelligent as he is, is because he has Frieza's cells. Frieza before Piccolo fused with Kami was the smartest being that made up Cell. Frieza is very intelligent and that's where Cell gets it I'll say they're even and before it bring up how smart Gohan is Remember when Cell was being created, Child Gohan and Piccolo before fusing with Kami or syncing with Nail were the samples taken. Cell isn't smarter than Frieza They're about equal in intelligence, if not Frieza more due to being around to rule the universe. Cell just acts more the part.
@Croach193
@Croach193 7 жыл бұрын
Melancholic Thinker Eh. I doubt that. Frieza gets brought back to life and his first instinct was to go after the Saiyans who defeated and killed him and use a form on them that he didn't even completely understand? Doesn't sound very intelligent to me. And then when he gets there, he could've just blown up the planet and won, but he decides to just toy around with his prey until Goku and Vegeta show up and give them the chance to beat him instead? Only thinking to blow up the planet when he's about to die? Still doesn't sound very intelligent. And then in the original arc, Goku goes to show him mercy and Frieza knows that he's outmatched, but instead of accepting Goku's mercy and using that as an opportunity to flee and recover or get stronger, he decides to try and stab Goku in the back? Again, doesn't sound very intelligent to me. I think Frieza sounded and acted more intelligent, but that Cell was by far the more intelligent one. Cell was cocky and played around a lot, but he did that because he knew that he could. He knew that no one there could beat him. So, yeah. I think that Cell is smarter than Frieza, but he should be because he isn't only made up of Frieza. He's made up of multiple different beings, so you'd think that the combined intelligence of multiple beings including Frieza should weigh in at more than Frieza's individual intelligence.
@elemomnialpha
@elemomnialpha 7 жыл бұрын
Antoine Gérard Cell isn't exactly smarter than Freeza as a whole but he does know more about combat containing the cells of many trained fighters (as Freeza himself had never actually trained until Resurrection F and even then didn't have any kind of teacher)
@melancholicthinker9291
@melancholicthinker9291 7 жыл бұрын
Abo Abomi Frieza is very impulsive, while he's intelligent he's arrogant, and wants to the galatic overlord he doesn't want restrain himself, why should he? but in the situations where he actually thinks before he acts like when he decided to train after his revival. or when he called in the Ginyu Force on Namek. Frieza when fighting is Sadistic like when fought Vegeta he wanted to break him before killing him and wanted to break Goku as well for personal game. Frieza even when backed to corner will do what he thinks is the best option when he was getting trashed around by Vegeta in the movie. he was smart enough to know his only option to win was blowing up the planet. same thing happened in Namek he realized the only way he could defeat Goku as a SSJ was to blow up the planet. He survived both explosions and would have won due to his thinking had Goku not found a ship or if Whis didn't turn back time. Cell has that similar thinking where he wanted to blow up the planet vs Gohan as a SSJ2 with a Kamehameha which Gohan stopped he also realized the only way he could win after losing 18 was to blow himself up. these are things he did that where the only way he could theoretical win in his given situation which were gotten from Frieza. The real difference is Cell isn't as impulsive as Frieza he's willing to be more calm and patient his Ego isn't as large as Frieza. therfore his intelligence shines more. he's able to access the situation like when he decided vs Piccolo the best course of action was to retreat, absorb more people and try again later while he was in his imperfect form. Frieza does have knowledge of the Universe the planets that inhabit them like Namek and access to advance Technology it's not a reach to say Frieza didn't have an excellent formal education along with the fact he's a prodigy. Cell only knows what he knows or at the very least what Gero wanted him to know while he was being created. which to be fair might be a lot but it's still limited to earth
@carmelosmith8782
@carmelosmith8782 7 жыл бұрын
Abo Abomi whis stated that freeza is a very smart being in the rof arc
@Starcat5
@Starcat5 7 жыл бұрын
Personally, I'd rather see a surviving Cell Jr. who spent the last 11 years NOT being a ****. Think about it. A version of "Cell" without the baggage of having BEEN Cell, and the time gap allowing the art team to tweek his personal design to, say remove the much dreaded spots? I call that a Win-Win. Maybe add a non-lethal grudge with Gohon for killing his brothers, and 17/18 not trusting him to spice it up.
@amberhawksong
@amberhawksong 6 жыл бұрын
I love that idea 💜
@rtyDFGaS
@rtyDFGaS 6 жыл бұрын
Well, Dragon Ball already had a similar arc with Piccolo Jr. But it’s been so long ago they could have as well went with Cell Jr. It wouldn’t even have been that hard to explain, just tell that Cell left one more behind to be safe or something.
@SCarr8813
@SCarr8813 6 жыл бұрын
Starcat5 it'd be like the bio-android hero in Dragon Ball Heroes
@conservaduck7298
@conservaduck7298 6 жыл бұрын
I think cell jr would be stronger than goku since cell never trained but had the genes of saiyan sand frieza
@e69alpha
@e69alpha 7 жыл бұрын
Super Saiyan God Golden Rose' Super Perfect Cell
@vixenxia2475
@vixenxia2475 6 жыл бұрын
Super Saiyan "Perfect Color Tone" Super Perfect Cell
@m3tr0id86
@m3tr0id86 6 жыл бұрын
You mean *Mr.* Super Saiyan God Rose' Perfect Cell?
@6DeathRider
@6DeathRider 7 жыл бұрын
I would rather have Cell instead of Frieza. Cell is more tactful.
@statechampfrancis2263
@statechampfrancis2263 7 жыл бұрын
6DeathRider cell could also make cell jrs to help them fight
@GetsugaTensho85
@GetsugaTensho85 7 жыл бұрын
6DeathRider If you have to go for Evil, than go for pure evil!
@fist-of-doom487
@fist-of-doom487 7 жыл бұрын
Frieza' cold (no pun intended) and cruel nature combined with his power and the fate of the universe hanging in the balance, all of that actually makes for really good drama. Because we all know Frieza is going to be integral to reach victory but will also make him extremely unpredictable and just as much of a danger. We know we have to trust him but we can't trust him because he's Frieza! It's like trusting Joker to save a bus full of school children because he's the only one able to at the time, we know it's probably not going to end pretty.
@evildeedz6905
@evildeedz6905 7 жыл бұрын
6DeathRider Yep agreed cell is way better then Freeza
@douglasdishman7992
@douglasdishman7992 7 жыл бұрын
CELL. He likes games.
@mihaimercenarul7467
@mihaimercenarul7467 7 жыл бұрын
Then why not Saw?
@haydenrusk3712
@haydenrusk3712 7 жыл бұрын
I would of loved a rivalry between cell and Gohan too. Be something different then just everyone gunning for goku
@robertcambron8464
@robertcambron8464 7 жыл бұрын
Hit reminds me of Cell. Frost reminds me of Freezer.
@dragonslayerz2220
@dragonslayerz2220 4 жыл бұрын
Frost is meant to be a Frieza clone. Hit is just similarly intriguing.
@frostedskittles1947
@frostedskittles1947 7 жыл бұрын
farmer with the shotgun
@fubukichiba
@fubukichiba 7 жыл бұрын
We don't wanna make this too easy
@berzerktroll7623
@berzerktroll7623 7 жыл бұрын
Kid Krazy True .
@littlekuribohimposte
@littlekuribohimposte 7 жыл бұрын
Farmer With Shotgun could beat the Grand Priest
@eleazar7962
@eleazar7962 7 жыл бұрын
last time we saw him he had radditz on the ropes, it'll be interesting to see him resurrected lmao
@lucasmiller8286
@lucasmiller8286 7 жыл бұрын
He's a farmer with a shotgun 🎵 Fighting 'til the arc's won 🎵
@GonKappa
@GonKappa 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe because Cell has Frieza's gene, he could get a similar form to Golden Frieza. You can't forget that Cell has Super Saiyan cells as well as Frieza's cells. A Golden Cell cannot be scratched off the book.
@OuassRR28
@OuassRR28 7 жыл бұрын
Gon Kappa maybe a hybrid of such
@fred2995
@fred2995 7 жыл бұрын
Remember that he wouldn't have to be golden. Freeze says that he could've chosen any color
@nskachuful
@nskachuful 7 жыл бұрын
Gon Kappa Golden Super Saiyan Super Namekian Cell
@nskachuful
@nskachuful 7 жыл бұрын
N S cool username
@OuassRR28
@OuassRR28 7 жыл бұрын
ns same to you hahah
@Neutral_Tired
@Neutral_Tired 6 жыл бұрын
Cell could probably get stronger than Frieza, he's never been shown to train and he has Frieza's DNA as well as Goku and Vegeta's so he could probably make just as much, if not more, progress if he did train, he could also go into the time chamber and spend 2 years training, and he's more intelligent and a better fighter than Frieza so he wouldn't make the same mistakes Frieza made with his golden form. Or he could just fly into open space, blow himself up, regenerate himself and repeat constantly. Also, side note, he could drain the opponents without killing them, like he did to Piccolo's arm, so he could strengthen himself and incapacitate his opponents simultaneously.
@leirbag1595
@leirbag1595 6 жыл бұрын
Without forgetting that having Frieza's DNA, Cell would get god-like strenght in a matter of months, let alone years of training.
@caesargold3695
@caesargold3695 6 жыл бұрын
“Cell could probably get stronger than Frieza, he's never been shown to train and he has Frieza's DNA as well as Goku and Vegeta's so he could probably make just as much, if not more, progress if he did train,” - complete fanon, cell is a biological machine whose techniques traits and functions were pre determined and pre designed by gero, including his forms. If he could do a few pushups and reach god level, why bother getting a perfect form? Gero first of all needs to have knowledge of Frieza’s inherit potential to make it compatible with cells other genes, and not to mention he would have to have knowledge of god Ki to incorporate that as a possibility within cell. So no, that’s complete fanfiction material not something that’s actually possible, biological engineering isn’t mixing colors in a paint bucket. You need to know of all of those genes beforehand and make them compatible, and like I said earlier, if cell had that much potential gero wouldn’t need to add a perfect or semi perfect form. “he could also go into the time chamber and spend 2 years training,” - the time chamber broke. And there wouldn’t be enough time for everyone if it wasn’t. Not to mention his potential is vague and Zenkai would give dimishing returns after a while, when his bodies cells recognize he isn’t actually in mortal danger. And if they didn’t, cell would need hundreds if not thousands or more to enter the realm of the gods in terms of power. “and he's more intelligent and a better fighter than Frieza so he wouldn't make the same mistakes Frieza made with his golden form.” - Okay that’s bullshit, may I remind you that cell was the same dumbass that used the buffed up form he lectured trunks for using when he was on the ground wailing at being surpassed by gohan? Cell keeps his composure when things are in his favor, but he starts bitching the moment it isn’t, Frieza has changed and has completely corrected the weakness of his golden form. Not to mention he now tolerates people stronger than him. “Or he could just fly into open space, blow himself up, regenerate himself and repeat constantly.” - I’ve already talked about the Zenkai tidbit so I won’t go into it “Also, side note, he could drain the opponents without killing them, like he did to Piccolo's arm, so he could strengthen himself and incapacitate his opponents simultaneously.” - that’s actually true, except all of the enemies he could absorb would be fodder while the others who match up to anything above SS2 would have impenetrable skin, Or would eliminate him easily.
@Neutral_Tired
@Neutral_Tired 6 жыл бұрын
Azura's Cape you seem like you know more about this than me, so I won't argue too much, but let me just say that Gero created Cell specifically to absorb 17 and 18, as he couldn't control them and didn't want to waste them, so for all we know he could get stronger than that form, also frieza never had god ki so cell wouldn't need it to get that strong. Also, if he couldn't get any stronger than his perfect form, what's the point f him being able to absorb people, and how did the zenkai work for him? Also, I know this isn't canon, but he tried to absorb goku in gt, what was the point of that if he couldn't get stronger than his perfect form? Like I said, you seem like you know what you're saying so I'd believe what you said, but I have thought of these holes in your logic, if you can explain them away, then sure, I'll believe you.
@NinjaTyler
@NinjaTyler 6 жыл бұрын
Azura's Cape gero and cell did not know of piccolo's regeneration, gokus instant transmission, solar flare, or Saiyan zenkai boosts, YET he was able to use or benefit from all of them, they were not proceed into him, he learned them or discovered he had them like Regen and zenkai boosts, which the boosts alone would ensure he'd get far stronger then freiza ever could
@dragonnasxavier3473
@dragonnasxavier3473 6 жыл бұрын
Azura's Cape, Cell learned Instantaneous Movement from Goku after only seeing it a few times, allowing him to return to the fight almost instantly after regenerating from blowing himself up. It took Goku quite a long while to learn it on Yardrat (since Yardrats are a physically weak race, much of his year there was spent working on that technique, he wasn't fighting them). That alone gives a pretty good hint that Cell is more of a genius at technique and power progression than Goku is by several times over. He's also shown to have Zenkai boosts (he was way stronger after returning from blowing himself up), the ability to live with only small parts left intact like Frieza, and superior regenerative ability to Piccolo since his variant doesn't leave him exhausted (and can be regenerated from one single cell). He was also shown not to have Goku's weakness of being soft when his guard is dropped. He took a kienzan to the neck while he was completely ignoring what was going on around him! Edit: And it clearly wasn't a matter of higher power making the Instantaneous Movement easier to learn, as no other Z-Fighter or enemy since has learned it. We have seen it from TWO non-Yardrats. One took a year, one saw it less than what, a half dozen times?
@CesarDaSalad
@CesarDaSalad 7 жыл бұрын
Anything Frieza can transform to, Cell can do too and better, because DNA.
@prince_nocturne
@prince_nocturne 7 жыл бұрын
3 words: God-Form Cell. He's got the Saiyan DNA for it!
@darkspectre4114
@darkspectre4114 7 жыл бұрын
But not the time to train
@cyancarpet4746
@cyancarpet4746 7 жыл бұрын
Hes also got loyalty, and royalty in his dna
@reoayoutube3779
@reoayoutube3779 7 жыл бұрын
Mega Boss He is very humble too.
@wdsansyboy1134
@wdsansyboy1134 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine cell absorbing jiren Goku: omg cell has a prettier face XD
@Timjer92
@Timjer92 7 жыл бұрын
I would also have greatly preferred Cell. I mean, not only is he much more intelligent, rational and, well, sane than Freeza, but it's also perfectly in his character to fight in the tournament like that. I mean, what better way to show his perfection to all of the multiverse? Plus, I think that Cell hasn't even come near the peak of his potential yet. If he has the same godlike potential Goku, Vegeta, or Freeza has, let alone all combined, and bothered to act on it rather than think he's good enough, he might genuinly become what Gero intended him to be: the _Ultimate_ Lifeform, surpassing even gods in a way that no other mortal possibly could.
@staticshotaop561
@staticshotaop561 7 жыл бұрын
Timjer cell is at best a building buster
@dertlash
@dertlash 7 жыл бұрын
Timjer but cell was built to match the Z story of the characters, he lost to Teen gohan in ssj2 which means he would have easily lost to ssj2 goku and Vegeta and even gotenks could defeat cell. The point is to get someone to replace majin Buu someone who. can fight at a lvl above ssj3. they don't want another strategist they have roshi, krillin and tien for that they need to replace a hard hitter someone on a level near Goku and Vegeta. With Frieza they have 4-5 people who can match the power of ssj blue
@TheForgotenStef30000
@TheForgotenStef30000 7 жыл бұрын
Throw Cell in the Chamber, let him in a couple of hours and let him trained him self with the Cell Juniors or even better, let him self destruct a couple of times to get Zenkai Boost.
@clintongillespie9895
@clintongillespie9895 7 жыл бұрын
SRM Maximus and give him the same train as Goku and Vegeta
@andreware2039
@andreware2039 7 жыл бұрын
+dertlash 4-5 people?! Lololololol!!!! Only Freeza can match Ssjb on that team.
@gladiator95proart57
@gladiator95proart57 7 жыл бұрын
Goku is a saiyan so he goes super saiyan Krillin is a man so he goes Super man
@khrisdayoungannn
@khrisdayoungannn 7 жыл бұрын
Gladiator95Pro Coc, Royale and stuff of ur choice *Why not Super Midget?*
@Pie123derp
@Pie123derp 7 жыл бұрын
#SuperDwarf
@Jaded_Jinx
@Jaded_Jinx 7 жыл бұрын
We don't talk about him here.
@MikeThePerkinaterX
@MikeThePerkinaterX 7 жыл бұрын
that is helarious
@Spiral927
@Spiral927 7 жыл бұрын
Nyeheh... super man. XD
@solitaregames
@solitaregames 7 жыл бұрын
I go with Cell. I always say Cell. He is more familiarized with tournament rules plus he is everyone in one. He is PERFECT for the job.
@SCarr8813
@SCarr8813 6 жыл бұрын
To Toriyama the only reason, literally the only damn reason, is that he is lazy as hell and doesn't want to draw Cell. That's it.
@vixenxia2475
@vixenxia2475 6 жыл бұрын
he doesn't draw any of it anymore tho, the real reason is because Cell has everyone's DNA besides Majin Buu's, that means along with Zenkai boost, Saiyan biology and Frieza's Mutant growth rate cells, he can actually get strong than frieza got with 4 months of training Cell literally would be a god of destruction if he trained for about 12 hours / half a year, in the hyperbolic time chamber. He's not picked because you guys think power scaling got ridiculous already, cell shows up its really out the window then.
@PlagueOfGripes
@PlagueOfGripes 7 жыл бұрын
The real answer is Imperfect Cell.
@Sasorilolo
@Sasorilolo 7 жыл бұрын
Best Cell for creeping the enemies out. Just eat them.
@alderbernhardt
@alderbernhardt 7 жыл бұрын
PlagueOfGripes oh you're here
@king-k9675
@king-k9675 7 жыл бұрын
Why? Isn't he weaker?
@piepods
@piepods 7 жыл бұрын
The true answer is paedo-clown-lip-layzAH Cell, you know, the one who KILLED GOKU!
@nono9543
@nono9543 7 жыл бұрын
MR. SANDMAN!!!!
@HoodedCrow
@HoodedCrow 7 жыл бұрын
Toei is not gonna bring back cell strictly because they don't wanna animate the spots on his design XD tho I'd love to see him again tbh
@stephencarter7321
@stephencarter7321 7 жыл бұрын
The spots, in comparison to Cell's overall design, would be easy to draw. Cell is very detailed
@theecowarriorz
@theecowarriorz 7 жыл бұрын
Give Cell a new transformation that has less spots. If he were to come back he would need a new form to catch up in power level with everyone else anyway.
@SakuraAvalon
@SakuraAvalon 7 жыл бұрын
'Aaaaand this! Is! To go beyond..... PERFECT!!!!!'
@garrettord3304
@garrettord3304 7 жыл бұрын
Toei isn't animating super
@stephencarter7321
@stephencarter7321 7 жыл бұрын
Hage Then tell us, O wise one, who might be animating it?
@jerryspencer2811
@jerryspencer2811 5 жыл бұрын
I want to see Cell do the wolf fang fist😂
@jessebrown1996
@jessebrown1996 7 жыл бұрын
Everybody talking about Cell and Frieza, what about Dabura? He was just as strong as cell, and was an amazing tactician.
@josephhoang6088
@josephhoang6088 7 жыл бұрын
MyNameIsSalem394 Wouldn't that technically be killing though?
@justalurker3489
@justalurker3489 7 жыл бұрын
And didn't he turn good as well?
@bashamd96
@bashamd96 7 жыл бұрын
Just a Lurker Nope anime filler that was implied just a act to trick Yemma to let him go to Hell
@bashamd96
@bashamd96 7 жыл бұрын
They kinda are still dead just not tge normal kinda dead
@bashamd96
@bashamd96 7 жыл бұрын
Nothing to really add or see he's evil only thing he'd be worth using is if they wanna make Mira and Towa canon and have a demon realm arc even then specially with if they wanted to add the demon from Ultimate Heroes X or Damegra he'd outclassed to being as relevant as a Freeza soldier or Zarbon
@alulantorterra
@alulantorterra 7 жыл бұрын
That intro is why I support this channel.
@almondjoy4938
@almondjoy4938 7 жыл бұрын
Nathan Abreha Not for the content? 😣
@imcintyre01
@imcintyre01 7 жыл бұрын
Cell with the cells of frieza and the sayajins makes it so he can transform and has great potential. Piccolo he can regenerate from close death easily. The guy would make the most powerful ally in the tournament.
@Kingjsan216
@Kingjsan216 7 жыл бұрын
imcintyre01 This
@imcintyre01
@imcintyre01 7 жыл бұрын
Jsan Scott that
@sherrattpemberton6089
@sherrattpemberton6089 7 жыл бұрын
and he'd likely be far easier to work with then Freza as said in the video
@sholva6809
@sholva6809 7 жыл бұрын
Cell doesn't have Frieza's cells. As Dr Gero would've already had all the DNA needed for Cell and Cell shows no signs of Frieza's techniques in any of his bouts whatsoever and no the games don't count.
@TOOxPHONKEE
@TOOxPHONKEE 7 жыл бұрын
Yes! Cell would be perfect for the tournament
@OdinAlgeron
@OdinAlgeron 7 жыл бұрын
LOL cell would have been great, akira could even have just removed cell's spots for a truly perfect golden form! With blue aura!
@ironmaster8925
@ironmaster8925 5 жыл бұрын
I think it would be better if Cell got a Silver Form with a Super Saiyan 2 aura, but with red lightning. Why? He has DNA cells of Friza and the Saiyans, not all of theres to go to their full potential but partial of their full potentials to create his full potential.
@austynrose2286
@austynrose2286 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen a ton of your videos recently and it seems every time I think of a dragon ball scenario you seem to instantly put out a video about it. You're great man, please keep up the great work and lemme hear those voices again man they were spot on. You've earned a new loyal sub.
@Maeno34
@Maeno34 7 жыл бұрын
I hope in the future cell comes back
@karizake
@karizake 7 жыл бұрын
They need to bring in the ultimate fighter: MONSTER CARROT!
@jessegilkey2616
@jessegilkey2616 7 жыл бұрын
karizake Isn't he still on the moon, or dead due to multiple moonsplosions?
@karizake
@karizake 7 жыл бұрын
Oh he's probably super dead, but that doesn't mean they couldn't bring him back.
@yiayiasboy6312
@yiayiasboy6312 7 жыл бұрын
karizake he would be so overpowered, the team could protect him while he turns everyone into carrots
@Exhumami
@Exhumami 7 жыл бұрын
karizake His followers revive him with the Dragon Balls... *FUKKATSU NO CARROT* 😂
@Evangelyne423
@Evangelyne423 7 жыл бұрын
Do you think that because Cell has Frieza's DNA that he could gain a form like Golden Frieza if he trained extensively? Wouldn't he have that potential inherently just as he had the potential and capability to go SSJ?
@unclebear83
@unclebear83 7 жыл бұрын
I think so! And to add to that, since he has the potential of all of the beings that make up his DNA...he should have the capacity to pull a Golden Frieza AND Super Saiyan Blue power form. O_O
@Evangelyne423
@Evangelyne423 7 жыл бұрын
Oh, shit. Haha damn so he could be the most powerful being in the universe if he worked for it.
@unclebear83
@unclebear83 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly~ Here's hoping the writers realize that and address it one way or another ^^ Especially if they are going to plan around the original ending of Z and re-envision the series after that point! 8D
@leirbag1595
@leirbag1595 6 жыл бұрын
unclearbear83 imagine Cell stacking the SSB, golden and kaioken transformations at once... I think he would be one of the best fighters of the tournament, to be honest.
@Hyperneosonic97
@Hyperneosonic97 6 жыл бұрын
Or, god forbid, Ultra Instinct.
@SunglassBassonist
@SunglassBassonist 7 жыл бұрын
"Toei has a fascination with mixing villains in with the good guys recently." Literally 6 members of the Universe 7 Team were villains at one point in the series.
@Kronoblade99
@Kronoblade99 7 жыл бұрын
Cell is the *PERFECT* fighter for the arc.
@armenian8396
@armenian8396 7 жыл бұрын
he can't even beat ssj2 he would get destroyed
@littlemanzjordan7267
@littlemanzjordan7267 7 жыл бұрын
Asad the fanboy Roshi
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 7 жыл бұрын
+Asad the fanboy The joke Your head
@khrisdayoungannn
@khrisdayoungannn 7 жыл бұрын
Asad the fanboy Damn right
@armenian8396
@armenian8396 7 жыл бұрын
Littlemanz Jordan no one even knows in what hell he is in
@masterroshi7450
@masterroshi7450 7 жыл бұрын
Masako should work with the writing staff at toei. If he would have written DBS it would be sooo much better, and would make more sense to!
@allhailzamasu69
@allhailzamasu69 7 жыл бұрын
Master Roshi how you still can't fly? yea imma need you to work on that before we leave
@RegBeta
@RegBeta 7 жыл бұрын
Master Roshi Assuming Toei actually cared about both the characters and the fans, and not about......MARKETING!!!!
@fubukichiba
@fubukichiba 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder how masako would've done with GT
@Manny9393
@Manny9393 7 жыл бұрын
What if Masako wrote Dragon ball GT. would make a great "what if" video.
@JimmyTurner
@JimmyTurner 7 жыл бұрын
Watch DBZ abridged
@samuelwhite1676
@samuelwhite1676 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making amazing dragon Ball super videos. You are one of my favorite KZbinrs! You have a Original way of analysing content :)
@RouvanaLucifer
@RouvanaLucifer 7 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking about this, and here you are discussing it!
@marcooosbibendorsht1334
@marcooosbibendorsht1334 7 жыл бұрын
Then there's the people who want Pikkon, my Gods
@peacekeeper1413
@peacekeeper1413 7 жыл бұрын
Marcus Badenhorst oh my gomikai
@ryudragon7
@ryudragon7 7 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, Pikkon is non-canon. He'd likely not show up just like how Goku and Vegeta didn't fusion dance to make Gojeta when fighting Zamasu. Either that or they'd have to spend more chapters and episodes creating the backstory for a canon, slightly different Pikkon, like they did with Broly aka Caulifla.
@spider59er35
@spider59er35 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly if any one of the characters, in Super mention Broly, I'll be soooooooo happy
@andreware2039
@andreware2039 7 жыл бұрын
+Keano Roberts Keep dreaming little birdy. Keep dreaming.
@marcooosbibendorsht1334
@marcooosbibendorsht1334 7 жыл бұрын
ryu, you mean Kale
@fred2995
@fred2995 7 жыл бұрын
Neither cause they can't bench press my dende
@markjohnson7999
@markjohnson7999 6 жыл бұрын
Really like your content bro don't stop
@SCI-FIWIZARDMAN
@SCI-FIWIZARDMAN 7 жыл бұрын
Another reason why Cell probably isn't getting considered is because of something Shin and Beerus imply early in the recruitment stage of the arc: being artificial. When Goku brings up 17 and 18 being androids (*coughactuallycyborgscough*), he expresses clear worry about whether they are actually eligible for the tournament; Goku assures him that the two are still humans, just made extremely powerful through machinery, and Beerus outright pretends that he didn't hear Goku say any of this so that he won't be docking the Universe 7 team from two powerful fighters. This heavily suggests that Beerus and Shin believe that artificial life forms aren't allowed in the tournament. Now, is this true? Probably not, after all Universe 4 seems to be all about using robots and cyborgs. But what matters is that Shin, and to some extent Beerus, believe it is the case. If they were iffy regarding 17 and 18, two genetically-modified humans, joining the tournament, as well as concerned about reviving an extremely powerful villain from the afterlife for the sake of competing in the tournament, would they really be accepting of a candidate who is essentially both of those things? Cell may be bio-synthetic, and his presence in Hell proves that he is in fact alive, but he's still artificial at the end of the day. At on top of that him being evil, and dead, and Shin and Beerus would probably both draw the line (albeit for different reasons: Shin due to the principle of the matter, and Beerus due to not wanting to risk breaking any rules that would get him erased).
@gabeitches87
@gabeitches87 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent Point.
@succubastard1019
@succubastard1019 7 жыл бұрын
Cell is made of flesh and bones just as every other living being, because he is one: he's a biological android.
@henryt3301
@henryt3301 7 жыл бұрын
There is a little problem with Cell, Masako: how Hell works. While in Z filler and GT, Hell was a clubhouse for the villains, in the manga and Super, is a place where they are punished until they decided to repent, and being reborn. That's how Uub was born. Frieza is so evil, that is trapped in a saccharine ironic hell, where he couldn't train at all, do anything. The same would apply to Cell, whatever his ironic hell is, he is possibly incapable of training his perfect body. Either that or he decided to repent and being reborn, but I found that unlikely.
@fidelgarcia2224
@fidelgarcia2224 7 жыл бұрын
Henry T well I think Cell ending up having his soul cleanse and being reborn any way since he hadn't sinned all that much like Freeza.
@henryt3301
@henryt3301 7 жыл бұрын
You're joking, right? He literally killed thousands of people and was willing to destroy the planet. And unlike Vegeta, we actually saw him doing so in nightmarish detail. And don't pull a "Vegeta did it too", he ended up in Hell after trying to kill Buu. He was only revived afterwards.
@fidelgarcia2224
@fidelgarcia2224 7 жыл бұрын
Henry T yea that's all Cell did he killed a couple of people and threatened to destroy the earth. While Freeza destroyed a lot of planets and made a lot of races go extinct. And with Vegeta he hadn't been dead all that long so that's probably how he was still able to come back alive.
@jshockx3
@jshockx3 7 жыл бұрын
Didn't King Yemma tell Baba that he'd been holding onto Vegeta's body in case things went south with the Majin Buu situation or is that just something from the dub?
@woodlefoof2
@woodlefoof2 7 жыл бұрын
in cells case he was basically following his instinct, trying to attain perfection and the blame more shifts onto gero for making him this way. as far as blowing up a planet that was kind of his freeza,cold, and vegeta cells at work.
@Zionrezort
@Zionrezort 7 жыл бұрын
I honestly would have rathered cell's return, i fear them completely ruining freeza's character
@mihaimercenarul7467
@mihaimercenarul7467 7 жыл бұрын
They won;t cuz Freeza is a money machine for Toei and has a simple design that can be done in 5 minutes. So why bother with more complex characters with more potential when you can go with the easy and more profitable way?
@shrekpeepee7760
@shrekpeepee7760 7 жыл бұрын
Zionrezort or cooler
@bipstymcbipste5641
@bipstymcbipste5641 7 жыл бұрын
Helping the fight Cell is made from all the abilities of the Z warriors combined so he has a bag full of tricks and skills
@MrFlip2247
@MrFlip2247 7 жыл бұрын
Zionrezort they already did with RoF. This is them giving him a second shot and I think they're gonna do it well
@coked_up_pikachu
@coked_up_pikachu 6 жыл бұрын
CYAMATEEE well we have seen Freeza in the tournament and I love him
@DustDemonTwilight
@DustDemonTwilight 7 жыл бұрын
well tbh if cell trained for 11 years he would be overpowered much stronger than frieza for sure... look at him , probably the character with the most potential in the series
@theboltthrower8661
@theboltthrower8661 6 жыл бұрын
Cell would be crap if it wasn´t for No. 17 and 18, lol.... Crappy villain and crappy character.
@wt_neptune54
@wt_neptune54 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think it works that way.
@jamainegardner4193
@jamainegardner4193 6 жыл бұрын
Only one that could possibly have more potential than Cell is Buu.
@theheavenlybuddha1859
@theheavenlybuddha1859 6 жыл бұрын
Well cell could have asked 18&17 to allow him to absorb them then egect them out then have 16 to destroy him to a pile of Gore then his cells would put him back together into his perfect from them at the point of meeting his "siblings" for the first time of course piccolo would try to stop him but if cell was to succeed with swaying 16 with a good fighter that could help him kill Goku he would oblige with the 4 of them killing piccolo then cell does the plan as he said and not just killing them all in the end because they would be good sparring partners and associates
@dragonbird1283
@dragonbird1283 5 жыл бұрын
@@jamainegardner4193 Naah,he is a Cell clone lmao
@sammydray5919
@sammydray5919 7 жыл бұрын
*Who do you prefer Freeza or Perfect Cell??* Perfect Cell (but Freeza currently is showing promise) *Will we even see Perfect Cell in Super??* Doubtful........ unfortunately :(
@adambump5297
@adambump5297 5 жыл бұрын
We did when Goku and Krillin went into that Forest of Terror.
@cappygamecubegengar8853
@cappygamecubegengar8853 7 жыл бұрын
Cell needs more screen time that's why we should have "DragonBall Z: Resurrection C"/Resurrection Cell
@cappygamecubegengar8853
@cappygamecubegengar8853 7 жыл бұрын
Gold cell no blue cell
@NoahTakai
@NoahTakai 7 жыл бұрын
S26 Gaming I would only accept Cell's return if it was to make his fusion with Krillin from the budokai games Canon
@fubukichiba
@fubukichiba 7 жыл бұрын
No purple cell
@shipa9715
@shipa9715 7 жыл бұрын
.... Goten and Trunks need more screen time.... Yamucha needs more screentime... Ollong needs more screen time... ChiChi needs More screen time..... Piccolo needs more screen time Bullma needs more screen time.
@zakbrandsinc
@zakbrandsinc 7 жыл бұрын
Terrible idea
@jamiedutton7257
@jamiedutton7257 7 жыл бұрын
Psychologically Freeza is a psychopath and Cell is a sociopath.
@esosa7725
@esosa7725 7 жыл бұрын
jamie madrox Actually, those two conditions are the same thing, the main difference is the cause. Socio-(started up by social conditioning) and psycho-(caused by abnormal brain function). Also, one can be cured, and one can't.
@jamiedutton7257
@jamiedutton7257 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Esosa! I'm guessing its the sociopath that can be cured if so then definitely cell for universe 7. ^_^ And in your opinion who do you think is the greater narcissist Freeza or Cell?!
@BigGeekEmpire
@BigGeekEmpire 7 жыл бұрын
jamie madrox They're the same thing. Doctors stopped saying psychopath because it's become "offensive". No one wants to be called psycho. Both means you lack empathy.
@obvious_humor
@obvious_humor 7 жыл бұрын
BigGeekEmpire No, there is a medical difference. Psychopaths are born. Sociopaths are made.
@chegg7660
@chegg7660 7 жыл бұрын
Cell is a far greater narcissist. He literally calls himself perfect.
@kingloki3774
@kingloki3774 7 жыл бұрын
I would really prefer cell to frieza being the new fighter but I highly doubt we'll get that.
@virtualinsanity589
@virtualinsanity589 5 жыл бұрын
Toriyama
@cameronmoore7675
@cameronmoore7675 7 жыл бұрын
Despite being a monster that horrifyingly killed and absorbed hundreds of thousands of people, Cell didn't really seem all that evil once he got his perfect form. I'm glad you made a video about this, Masako! I've been wondering the same thing.
@ndprod.animationenthusiast9376
@ndprod.animationenthusiast9376 7 жыл бұрын
DPool12: Just annihilate Cell! He'll regenerate and go Blue!
@louisepetersen7435
@louisepetersen7435 7 жыл бұрын
Didn't Dende make the Earth's dragon balls similar to Namek's dragon balls?? So that Shenron could revive people no matter how many times a person died? As long as the person didn't die in a natural way? And the multiple wishes instead of just one wish? So if I'm right about this, then Frieza could easily be revived again. Also when Goku said that he'd promised to revive Frieza everybody freaked out. If Goku had been fooling Frieza then wouldn't the others just don't care and say "Good job Goku, you tricked him into joining our team" ??
@TheVanOvanShow
@TheVanOvanShow 7 жыл бұрын
Louise Petersen yup
@obvious_humor
@obvious_humor 7 жыл бұрын
TheVanOvanShow No. Goku couldn't be brought back after being killed by Cell. The Earth Dragon Balls can't grant the same wish twice. Dende's upgrade only made it so that there were three wishes instead of one, and that mass revivals used two of those wishes.
@alrightagain4605
@alrightagain4605 7 жыл бұрын
obvious_humor That's not true Goku basically told everyone he didn't want to get wished back.
@clintongillespie9895
@clintongillespie9895 7 жыл бұрын
Louise Petersen on they didn't the only thang that change is that shenron can grant 2 whis's.
@louisepetersen7435
@louisepetersen7435 7 жыл бұрын
Well guys, I guess I'll have to go all the way back into Z to find out, because you guys sure doesn't help much, no offense. Funny how we all are Dragon Ball fans, but either people don't know as much as they think they do or else they just forget about what they've learned about the Dragon Ball universe.
@gettingannoyedquick
@gettingannoyedquick 7 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of using Dabura for the tournament and using hell as a bargaining chip for him as a way to get him to join even though the biggest problem with that is they are under a huge time constraint and dont have the time to train him
@hitmanwolf
@hitmanwolf 7 жыл бұрын
Frieza got enough screen time already... just bring Cell out.
@cantthinkofaname1990
@cantthinkofaname1990 7 жыл бұрын
This would have been a much better time to resurrect Frieza instead of during the Resurrection F arc/movie. It would have been much more of an impact. Though I am kinda glad they didn't go with Cell just because he's predictable and too much like Goku and Vegeta for anything really interesting or unique to happen. The writers can play around with Fieza more and the rest of the team because he's universally hated by them and much more evil than Cell. If Toei plays their cards right, this arc could be really, really, good.
@xenocidercarson
@xenocidercarson 7 жыл бұрын
beefiesttaco without seeing his golden form they wouldn't have considered freeza
@woodlefoof2
@woodlefoof2 7 жыл бұрын
no the ressurection F arc is the entire reason freeza is a better pick than cell, if he just got revived he would be the weakest member of the team, barring maybe roshi and tien
@Mikeywf
@Mikeywf 7 жыл бұрын
I would've preferred Cell over Frieza. Honestly if Cell lived he probably wouldn't even be an antagonist anymore he probably would've become an anti hero of some sorts and a rival to Gohan/Vegeta/Goku because of his love for fighting. I see it as a similar story to how Vegeta became good but i don't see Cell going full on goody goody ya know
@lelandwhitehead56
@lelandwhitehead56 7 жыл бұрын
Or the OG villain to Z Warrior, Piccolo
@Mikeywf
@Mikeywf 7 жыл бұрын
Tyler Whitehead the best one at that
@valgoria
@valgoria 7 жыл бұрын
The OG villain to z warrior is yamcha
@nickpillow5692
@nickpillow5692 7 жыл бұрын
Mikey4wf he is too weak anyway to get him to frieza level he'd need months of training
@Mikeywf
@Mikeywf 7 жыл бұрын
nick pillow I don't think him being too weak is an issue seeing as Roshi Tien and Krillin are on the team. He's probably stronger than 18 too unless she's still close to 17's strength
@enzantakeshita8838
@enzantakeshita8838 7 жыл бұрын
I love how seamlessly and subtly Masako's voice can transition from his real voice to Goku's and back again
@XxPx3xNx6xUx1xNxX
@XxPx3xNx6xUx1xNxX 6 жыл бұрын
Long time watcher of DB videos, first time watcher of your vids. Are you a voice actor? You sound like Goku from DBZ Abridged. lol
@ShiroZerotheDragoon
@ShiroZerotheDragoon 7 жыл бұрын
One problem with p.cell would have to be his "relationship" with android 17 and 18. I don't think that they , especially nb 17 would be thrilled to see him alive again. Probably acting similar to how vegeta is now.
@jaeten8690
@jaeten8690 7 жыл бұрын
ShiroZerotheDragoon thank you!!! Everyone is ignoring this . If perfect cell comes back we lose 17 and 18!
@nickpillow5692
@nickpillow5692 7 жыл бұрын
ShiroZerotheDragoon plus he's weak af to get to golden freeza level he'd need months and him and gohan interaction would be weird
@Darthwin1
@Darthwin1 7 жыл бұрын
Trenisa Walker probably because even then it is a better option then recruit the evil tyrant that killed most of your species ( Goku and Vegeta ), killed you ( krillen ), or ordered your species killed in your quest for immortality ( piccolo ) by the numbers Freeza on the team would do more damage to team unity then Cell.
@adcrome
@adcrome 7 жыл бұрын
We wouldn't lose 17 or 18. His perfect form is pretty unrelated to them. If you recall correctly when he spat out 18 he reverted, but then he got a zenkai boost and came back in Perfect form regardless. I think it's tied to power rather than actually absorbing the androids. Not that they'd appreciate it. I doubt they wouldn't tolerate him for the duration of the tournament though.
@ilovethelegend
@ilovethelegend 7 жыл бұрын
Not really. Cell and Freeza both would have some kind of beef with almost every member of the team.
@supasaul9973
@supasaul9973 7 жыл бұрын
Cells My favorite Dragon ball villain so woulda loved to see him back.... Freeza is cool to tho so I ain't trippin
@Admiral_Lynx89
@Admiral_Lynx89 7 жыл бұрын
Even without the "one time only" revival limit on the earth Dragon Balls, Goku never specified _when_ he was going to gather them to make the wish. For a skilled businessman, Frieza's being awfully complacent about letting the potential loopholes in his 'contract' with Goku run rampant. But that's my only characterization quibble; I can reason that Frieza isn't realizing as much because his personal hell may have been getting to him somewhat by that point, having been revived once, only to die after a few months of freedom.
@FirstCitizenXIV
@FirstCitizenXIV 7 жыл бұрын
My brain says that we won't see Perfect Cell ever again but my heart tells me that he will be brought back in a future arc
@noodlepapi9521
@noodlepapi9521 7 жыл бұрын
well Freeza is stronger but Cell will follow the rules
@whyisthishappening6745
@whyisthishappening6745 7 жыл бұрын
Morles Gaming until he blows up the ring
@noodlepapi9521
@noodlepapi9521 7 жыл бұрын
Why is this happening but the grand priest made it I doubt he will be able too
@beazyo6baby
@beazyo6baby 7 жыл бұрын
Morles Gaming that's what I was saying although frieza is my fave villain cell woulda been a smarter choice
@mrjay6627
@mrjay6627 7 жыл бұрын
Morles Gaming Freeza stronger than Cell.....N E V E R E V E R!
@alinapostolescu4469
@alinapostolescu4469 7 жыл бұрын
Mr Jay frieza one shots cell its a fact
@DarkYTV5
@DarkYTV5 7 жыл бұрын
Crazy Prediction: Cell is still alive and will attack the tournament. With this we have buu/frieza/cell -Before the cell games he used the multiform. because he felt superior and thought that he could win with half strength. -Cell has the cells of Frieza and king Cold. He could know about Beerus/buu. Cell is smart enough to prepare for that day. -The second cell (multiform) went very far away and trained very hard (cells of frieza/saiyans) -cell also has the cell of goku. Goku visited Grandpa Gohan/jejoro (don't know how to spell her name). Goku repaired the furness with banjo fan. -Cell 1 (multiform) found that way to escape he'll - Later on the reunion of both cells and became complete
@adcrome
@adcrome 7 жыл бұрын
Unless he separates his soul into pieces, he would've flat out died when Earth was destroyed in the Buu/Resurrection F saga. At that point, it'd be hard to rationalize him being revived and managing to stay hidden. People can feel evil even if they aren't flaunting strength, as exhibited by Frieza being revived and piccolo noticing.
@ilovethelegend
@ilovethelegend 7 жыл бұрын
You think a measly thing like a planet blowing up would have killed Cell? He has freeza's cells, he can survive the vacuum of space. Also, I'm not sure that's how the multiform technique works. Even if it was, you think Cell would have had his clone come back and jump in when it was apparent he was losing at half strength.
@DarkYTV5
@DarkYTV5 7 жыл бұрын
They also couldnt sense Friezas energy when he trained on another planet to become Golden Frieza. Cell wouldnt stay on earth, just on a random planet far away. If cells clone would come back if he knew that his other counterpart would lose. You might be right, he would hate to lose. But for my theory i can say: Cell could have thinking of the bigger picture, Defeating beerus. it is true that we dont know how the multiform works if you kill 1 of the bodies. No one in DBsuper is even mentioning his name. Maybe DBsuper have secret plans. But DBSuper would probably dont make Cell come back like my idea. Or he could have just escaped from hell through that place of Grandpa gohan/Jejoro (furness db). The only but with escaping from he'll, King yemma would have told someone.
@BigGeekEmpire
@BigGeekEmpire 7 жыл бұрын
DarkYTV5 lol. Yeah, cell is totally gonna show up in a void between all universes that only the gods can get to. Lol ok. He's dead. Deal with it
@TheShockVox
@TheShockVox 7 жыл бұрын
DarkYTV5 he's dead..
@MarkIan_Music
@MarkIan_Music 7 жыл бұрын
5:34 Best Dragon Ball Kai Christopher Ayres's Frieza impression.
@UbyVictor
@UbyVictor 6 жыл бұрын
Me during video: *browsing on another tab* Mh, yeah, I agree... Me at 11:19 : *comes back to this video* WHAT DID HE JUST SAY
@someguy9227
@someguy9227 7 жыл бұрын
Speedwagon beats everyone, Speedwagon can kick Goku's ass.
@MonSuper21
@MonSuper21 7 жыл бұрын
speedwagon solos the dbz universe
@bashamd96
@bashamd96 7 жыл бұрын
Speedwagon solos every universe ever at once
@thechosenbeastdoesgames956
@thechosenbeastdoesgames956 7 жыл бұрын
Some Guy Jojo's speedwagon?
@bashamd96
@bashamd96 7 жыл бұрын
What other Speedwagon is there besides best JoJo Speedwagon
@DoffysGlasses
@DoffysGlasses 7 жыл бұрын
Even Speedwagon is afraid of Speedwagon, clearly the best choice for the team
@Truhania
@Truhania 7 жыл бұрын
Cell without a doubt I'm fucking bored by Freeza endless come backs....
@HovektheArtist
@HovektheArtist 7 жыл бұрын
Truhania plus cell is the THE villain for a tournament i mean #cellgames
@Manostion
@Manostion 7 жыл бұрын
Very true though I also love how well his transformation and overall appearance was handled in the last episode! I think it should've been Cell, though, too...
@LuckXvaati
@LuckXvaati 7 жыл бұрын
Seriously though. Freeza had an entire arc (and a movie) dedicated to him. I want the other awesome villain to return.
@Bryantdtv
@Bryantdtv 7 жыл бұрын
Truhania endless? dude came back twice so far guess that's endless lol
@theBabyDead
@theBabyDead 7 жыл бұрын
@blazblue 3 times if you count his robot form... 4 times if you think about the frost reïncarnation. And I think what he means is that freeza's arcs are really long...
@Wristan
@Wristan 7 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking, what would happen if Zen-Oh and Future Zen-Oh fused together?
@mewbeta7933
@mewbeta7933 6 жыл бұрын
Love the little Cell figure in the background
@ultraexcalibur1728
@ultraexcalibur1728 7 жыл бұрын
Frieza is the better choice bcuz he makes Toei more money! Argument solved!
@mihaimercenarul7467
@mihaimercenarul7467 7 жыл бұрын
And has a design that can be done in 5 minutes, so why bother with Cell when you can bring Frieza back every single saga from now on?
@vgamer4993
@vgamer4993 7 жыл бұрын
Ultra Excalibur Also, you know... Freeza is stronger.
@mezasepkmn
@mezasepkmn 7 жыл бұрын
Vgamer 499 Yeah, but Cell is more useful for a tournament Setting. He can regenerate, blow himself up then come back.
@vgamer4993
@vgamer4993 7 жыл бұрын
Cabba's Amvs True, but that won't help much against guys like Hit, Toppo, Jiren, or any other god-level fighters in the tournament.
@vgamer4993
@vgamer4993 7 жыл бұрын
BagMan69 Eh, can't argue that.
@adamdaman6784
@adamdaman6784 7 жыл бұрын
Wait..... LOVER?
@lelandwhitehead56
@lelandwhitehead56 7 жыл бұрын
Adamdaman678 I want to know what he meant too
@ElitePotatoes
@ElitePotatoes 7 жыл бұрын
jokes
@Basheerrko
@Basheerrko 6 жыл бұрын
Adamdaman678 froza
@xFanCannonx
@xFanCannonx 7 жыл бұрын
"Toei has a facination with adding bad guys into the mix with good guys lately" Lately? Vegeta, Piccolo, Buu, 17, 18, Pilaf, TIen and god knows who I'm missing from the cast have a bone to pick
@DERTHIX
@DERTHIX 7 жыл бұрын
A Cell jr. should've showed up, I've always wanted to see that!!!
@patrickcortis4910
@patrickcortis4910 7 жыл бұрын
Roses are red Cell is not blue Frieza is golden And cell maybe too? Goku goes Blue And Frieza joins the team Maybe now He will raise his self esteem
@CultivateAwareness
@CultivateAwareness 7 жыл бұрын
:')
@tylerpancake780
@tylerpancake780 7 жыл бұрын
immagohan183 gokuisepic444 spoilers frieza goes to join Universe 4
@j1n3
@j1n3 7 жыл бұрын
spoilers frieza fuse with frost
@tylerpancake780
@tylerpancake780 7 жыл бұрын
j1n3 is that actually true
@animefan3794
@animefan3794 7 жыл бұрын
j1n3 like, fusion dance or…
@TheMagnifikle
@TheMagnifikle 7 жыл бұрын
I thought the being brought back by the dragon balls only once rule was removed Dende created them
@Gameasaurusrex
@Gameasaurusrex 7 жыл бұрын
Funny enough they even mention that in DBZ Abridged.
@TheMagnifikle
@TheMagnifikle 7 жыл бұрын
Gameasaurusrex ok nice to know I'm not going crazy
@markwiedeman7271
@markwiedeman7271 7 жыл бұрын
Adam Chebali Oh, well I guess that clears the air about that
@zakjumah
@zakjumah 7 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a Revival of Cell movie with a Silver Cell transformation!!!
@a.carter1599
@a.carter1599 7 жыл бұрын
you one of the best theorist
@tidalbrown1018
@tidalbrown1018 7 жыл бұрын
~ I love Frieza he is the TYRANTS OF TYRANTS ~
@bananasfolive3322
@bananasfolive3322 7 жыл бұрын
Cell is my favorite too
@cloudyxeno9447
@cloudyxeno9447 6 жыл бұрын
Bananas Folive then why is your profile picture frieza
@noonespecial7474
@noonespecial7474 6 жыл бұрын
Thay say with a frizea profile pic
@agent00chimp
@agent00chimp 7 жыл бұрын
Cell can get zenkai boosts exactly like Saiyans due to genetics/design. So in theory, Cell could achieve a God status like Goku and Vegeta given enough time to train or if he were continously destroyed, as destruction seems to be the slight augmentation to Cell's particular zenkai boost advantage. He can grow in power through training and fighting or through regeneration.
@Joshua_Shadow_Manriguez
@Joshua_Shadow_Manriguez 7 жыл бұрын
Toriyama has been great at writing deeper characters in Super. All this stuff recently has been Toriyama exercising his writing experience.
@Jeikobu
@Jeikobu 7 жыл бұрын
I would prefer Cell, he was probably my favorite. and yes, I think he could more easily be a team player which it sounds like they are building up.
@nerulon089
@nerulon089 7 жыл бұрын
I am the only one who liked Cell more in the base form ? :D
@lordtouchme8328
@lordtouchme8328 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he was truely calculated and creepy back then I loved it. Also love perfect cell but first form cell is my favorite character.
@PGW85Productions
@PGW85Productions 7 жыл бұрын
Nerulon Skyven no you aren't, I am a much bigger fan of his Imperfect Form than his Perfect Form. Imperfect Cell was one of the most creepy and unsettling characters in the series, to me at least. Perfect Cell never left me as unsettled, and didn't leave me wondering how the heroes could win, unlike his imperfect form.
@FreshZCORD
@FreshZCORD 7 жыл бұрын
thats what made him so great Broly
@FreshZCORD
@FreshZCORD 7 жыл бұрын
Aaron Lamar wtf
@MieziWithSunglxzz
@MieziWithSunglxzz 7 жыл бұрын
I guess thats cause of saiyan dna, the stronger they get the more arrogant they become.
@joshuasepeda3289
@joshuasepeda3289 5 жыл бұрын
Hey masako, I love your videos but that opening joke was BAAAAAAAADDDDDDD.🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
@Hav58
@Hav58 6 жыл бұрын
you could do a 'What if' on this discussion, once this arc is over
@mikekasey1697
@mikekasey1697 7 жыл бұрын
Frieza is there because he is the dbz version of Thanos.
@redomnitrix6834
@redomnitrix6834 7 жыл бұрын
Mike Kasey uuuuhhhh no he is not like at alll like what made u say such a thing
@arrownoir
@arrownoir 7 жыл бұрын
So he does nothing all day?
@mikekasey1697
@mikekasey1697 7 жыл бұрын
A tournament with no killing. So you put frieza in there to make it interesting. He's a mad titan. What will he do and will he kill someone. So many questions to ask and so many answers to know. Frieza is the perfect person for universe 7.
@dexterthefat8277
@dexterthefat8277 6 жыл бұрын
Mr. stark I don’t feel good.
@virtualinsanity589
@virtualinsanity589 5 жыл бұрын
Except thanos is complex character
@KidneyFailureGaming
@KidneyFailureGaming 7 жыл бұрын
Cell might be a better choice because he is *PERFECT*. Frieza might also be a better choice because he is not *CHILLED* and is a *ICE Cold* Killa.
@jaydenalderson6583
@jaydenalderson6583 7 жыл бұрын
I see what you did with perfect chilled and ice cold
@jaydenalderson6583
@jaydenalderson6583 7 жыл бұрын
cell calls himself perfect
@jaydenalderson6583
@jaydenalderson6583 7 жыл бұрын
Frieza name is similar to freezer meaning cold
@kingpeso4240
@kingpeso4240 7 жыл бұрын
Mark Johnson Frieza might just be COOLER.
@KidneyFailureGaming
@KidneyFailureGaming 7 жыл бұрын
Illuminati King Trunks But I think Frieza is in-*Saiyan*.
@tron9683
@tron9683 7 жыл бұрын
I thought the revival limit on the Earth dragon balls was removed when Dende took over as Kami. I guess I got mixed up at some point...
@tnh723
@tnh723 7 жыл бұрын
I want the Team Four Star Perfect Cell. good video mate. I agree
@JamesQPurcell
@JamesQPurcell 7 жыл бұрын
What if.... Freeza and Frost fuse?
@lordasian8476
@lordasian8476 7 жыл бұрын
James Purcell cooler
@jordanbauer5843
@jordanbauer5843 6 жыл бұрын
Sub-Zero!
@dragonbird1283
@dragonbird1283 5 жыл бұрын
Froza
@chrisxzzy
@chrisxzzy 7 жыл бұрын
I have 1 question about the Namek Saga What race is Recoome?
@Overlord69
@Overlord69 7 жыл бұрын
He's a Smackdonian from planet WWE! ;)
@smittenwerbenjagermanjense1268
@smittenwerbenjagermanjense1268 7 жыл бұрын
christian Eli human
@chrisxzzy
@chrisxzzy 7 жыл бұрын
How can a human survive in space, beat Vegeta and know Vegeta for years when Vegeta hasn't been in earth for a year
@imaginaryboy2000
@imaginaryboy2000 7 жыл бұрын
His race's Recoome And it rhymes with doom And yoooooooou're gonna be hurting *ALL! TOO! SOON!*
@pokeboy305
@pokeboy305 7 жыл бұрын
I'm saying lol
@al_2331
@al_2331 7 жыл бұрын
here's a concept does cell have a golden form if he trained for it or maybe a god or blue form because Mr Perfect Cell is obviously the best choice
@justsomeguy6768
@justsomeguy6768 6 жыл бұрын
I come from the Future to tell you freiza in T.O.P was amazing
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