Frieza would One Shot The Darkest Knight

[@OOriginal-qui]

Some Dragon Ball power scalers acts like I need to join their server to debate them when I can give them proof in KZbin comments

[@OOriginal-qui]

You are just going to Yap in your server because you will just ignore my proof when I do give you the scans and I can just tell you to watch a video called How Toxic Scalers Ruined Goku's Story in 12:05 for your proof

[@OOriginal-qui]

give me one reason why I should join your server if you going to ignore my scans?

[@OOriginal-qui]

@@KodeukI did debate with toxic Dragon Ball power power scalers like you and they all try to attack me in their server for giving scans

[@OOriginal-qui]

The full extent of the dragon ball universes are finite and 3 dimensional because the concept of infinity is never said to physically exists in the story of Dragon Ball and it 3 dimensional because it does not have all of space and time because we know there still 3 dimensional space outside the universes called the neutral zone

[@OOriginal-qui]

The Guides calling the universe infinite does not mean anything if the concept of infinity is never said to physical exists in the Dragon Ball story

[@OOriginal-qui]

Most of the power scaling community hate you because you tell the truth of how strong is their fictional verses

[@davidsiraze8365]

Dragontards are toxic fans so is obvious they don't want to accept how wrong they are

[@Meliodas_TheKing]

That shows us that u didn't read the comic, cuz he took sum stuff out of context

[@YodaOp]

Bro you are trolling ??? The darkest night one shot the db verse only thinking abaut it

[@davidsiraze8365]

By a mere Swift of it's hand darkest knight will erease the Multiverse completely

[@thecomiccurator]

Secret files 6 says TDK was contained in a literal sentence story, along with the Hands, that Darkseid wrote.

[@Hellopeople_of_theinternet]

Did you even watch the video?

[@mimikyuliker946]

About the whis scan-- Moro's explosion being galaxy level has nothing to do with it being "enough" to kill Goku and Vegeta. Goku and Vegeta would die regardless because they cannot breathe in space. Vegeta himself died when Freeza destroyed only the planet in RoF. They're still far above galaxy level, especially at this point

[@thecomiccurator]

Moro was swelling with energy after merging the severed hand with himself, and was going to self destruct, goku and potentially the galaxy were going to blow up too. Goku has light speed reaction time and can watch the explosion of the planet happen in super slow motion, plenty of time for him to instant transmission everyone to safety 100x over. I think whis was right, they are galaxy tier at best and I see no evidence to the contrary.

[@mimikyuliker946]

@@thecomiccurator galaxy tier? At best? Kid Buu was literally universal, and God Goku's clash with beerus threatened to destroy all of universe 7 (which is itself composed of three universes) Also what does Goku's reaction time have to do with it? And by this logic, since Blue Vegeta died to Freeza's planet explosion in RoF, would that make Blue RoF Vegeta planetary?

[@thecomiccurator]

@@mimikyuliker946 kid buu was never universal, this is a lie in the community of scaling and a meme, that isnt at all true. Gokus limit was explained by whis. Gokus reaction time and flying that fast and thinking that fast is more than enough time to instant transmission to safety. Ok so when a multi solar system explosive ki blast hits the earth, and the earth explodes, that blast is not only earth tier, its way beyond that.

[@melvingenao550]

​@@mimikyuliker946 the only thing that buu did was scream enough to destabilize the verse it would have been destroyed by a chain reaction. That's bot universal boi

[@mimikyuliker946]

@@thecomiccurator can you explain Kid Buu not being universal, when there are a variety of statements which claim that he would destroy the entire universe (including other dimensions within universe 7)

[@Dario-z4g]

I get that talking about Tori bot can be a bit tricky due to obvious reasons, but as long as it is done with respect i dont see any problem. In fact i think what would be disrespectfull would be to claim he is "untouchable", he never treated his manga like that and the man made fun of himself all the time, he was a down to earth guy that didnt show this kind of actitude. Using him as a way to further the powerscalers agenda is something i wouldnt see with good eyes PS: i noticed the kh music

[@TheOneWhoShushes]

Oh is that why in the newer seasons of young justice, Vandal Savage and Darkseid beef was so important?

[@thecomiccurator]

bingo

[@KH2KG]

It's always the smaller channels man. Official divine and dripsause could never

[@jg5004]

I always thought that when Whis said the galaxy would be destroyed from Moro’s explosion was referring more to its range than its power.

[@thecomiccurator]

Whis was explaining to avoid that sort of thing, otherwise they'd die from it.

[@alexinfinity8591]

4:00 this type of things i saw it a lot in jojo power scalers bc they don't read or play and just don't understand or things loke i heard from someome from someone from someone soo basically the original thing is changed or exagerated

[@thecomiccurator]

Agreed, you can see a plethora of commenters saying TDK and Perpetua are super powerful, but proving they didnt read Secret Files 6 where Darkseid explains he exists above the Hands and contains them all in a story he wrote. Its just waiving a big ol red flag saying "id rather discredit one of the only honest content creators for comic mythology than admit I was wrong!" It hurts me, a little...not much, but like...the equivalent of when your cat nips you for no reason and you are like HEY...wait..aww.

[@YodaOp]

Bro the darkest night is outer , he can destroy all the multiverse and even mobius chair Wally can’t do anything against him

[@thecomiccurator]

lol no

[@popkb]

Holy! This comment has to be sarcastic.

[@Coldskin1]

He not outerversal He can destory the multiverse but not the omniverse Dc is much more than just multiverse

[@thecomiccurator]

@@popkb It hurts me a little as to how many people never read Secret Files, JL Odyssey, or JL vs the Legion of superheroes :[

[@thecomiccurator]

@@Coldskin1 He cant do any of that, he was literally contained in story sentence that darkseid wrote and was contained literally in the period at the end of the sentence. Not even kidding.

[@YourLovelyGuy9442]

Very weird that someone like superman can defeat goku but tdk who is stronger than superman get defeated by the foe who lost to goku

[@Hellopeople_of_theinternet]

Ik, its a shame TDK aint real in the DC multiverse/omniverse XD

[@Arijeet2.0-y8b]

Db fans when stan lee is being taken in debates :- ☺️kalm Db fans when someone takes toribot ( toriyama) as scaling;- 💀real shit

[@lightspeedweenus]

This was a very good video, I think another problem is the community can't comprehended having multiple interpretations for characters power levels, like how you can scale a character thru straight up feats alone and disregard most statements that could upscale the series as a normal/fair interpretation or take every statement as literal and wank tf outta every feat possible for the highest level of power. It makes vs battles not just a 1 sided stomp every time, its boring to just assume a characters power can't be interpreted in multiple ways, . Unless one character is just infinitely stronger then the other no matter what like Goku vs anyone in demon slayer lol, With comic book scaling their well always be a 'god version' of some fodder tier character or some shit which makes for disingenuous vs battles debates because liars well argue in bad faith that those said fodder characters are always that powerful or that they can just somehow chain scale their way from mountain lvl to multiversal 💀this type of scaling is just one of the problems with the community, pixel scaling also needs to stop being regarded as valid in most cases, it should only be used if it would be consistent with the narrative. Statement scaling needs to be from a validated confirmed official translation and not a fan translated version of a Japanese only novel or some shit. If your scaling thru statements you better not be taking it from TicToc Reddit comments regurgitating misinformation like its gospel. Its easy to tell when something gets called out in the community that awakens the defenders of lying and deceiving, I mean this is the community where you can 'win a debate' by arguing a lie and people well hype you up for being a bad faith arguing agenda driven trashcan of a human. Most of the time when anyone scales a character, especially on forms like vswiki or csap. It needs to be take with a grain of salt and not taken seriously, all powerscaling forms are inherently agenda pushing liars that only allows scaling of characters they want because they have packs of followers to disagree with anything their slave master says without a single thought regardless if its the truth.

[@thecomiccurator]

Its all about favoritism.

[@lightspeedweenus]

@thecomiccurator yeah, and pushing an agenda that characters cant be below or above a certain power level no matter what.

[@thecomiccurator]

@@lightspeedweenus We have commenters right here in this thread saying TDK and Perpetua were outer and beyond multiverse tier despite me videos I've made showing that Secret Files said that Darkseid looms above them and wrote them into a story in a literal sense, like literally, he wrote it, and everyone was contained in a sentence that said Darkseid Is. Everyone was located in the period dot. :[

[@lightspeedweenus]

@thecomiccurator yeah, it's almost impossible it seems for people to understand that a made up dream version of characters like TDK is essentially just made up versions of characters who aren't really that strong or 'beyond comprehension or platonic concepts' because it's literally made up in a fictional story within a fictional story that is blatantly not showcaseing true beyond comprehension or platonic power, its easier to say TDK and Perpetua even with 'platonic energy' is still suseptible to physical damage from literal planets, so much for being beyond time space and dimensions when your getting hit with planets and running out of energy from it 💀

[@thecomiccurator]

@@lightspeedweenus For years, not one person was able to answer me how Perpetua and TDK > Mandrakk/CAS when Perpetua and TDK were explicitly shown to be corporeal and losing energy, unable to give themselves whatever they needed, and have arcs lasting years of them trying to find energy sources. While CAS and Mandrakk skip that and just give themselves anything, and pre adaption. Its wild. lol

[@Coldskin1]

Tdk is comic armor level 😖

[@thecomiccurator]

TDK was killed by a fraction of the world forges power, this happened while the forge of worlds was dim and dying, nearly empty. The same forge at 100% power at peak was no sold by Mandrakk in The Unexpected, who was very weakened at the time. The dialogue of Mandrakk then explains to Neon that the CAS was stronger than Neon with the power of the Forge.

[@setnesi]

Pls do a video on lord beerus would like to get your perspective and how he would scale to dc characters.

[@thecomiccurator]

Sounds fun for a future vid.

[@izurukamakura237]

So where did whis say they they would die from the explosion?

[@thecomiccurator]

So in DBS Chapter 65, Moro attaches Merus' hand and increases his power enough to harm Goku and give him some serious problems, even outspeeding him. At this point, moro was swelling with energy and Whis says he will die from the explosion that is possible on galactic level. Since Moro and Goku are roughly on point after the attached hand, its logical that Goku would also die from it.

[@izurukamakura237]

​@thecomiccurator I don't think that's fair to say mostly because we know goku would die just from the planet itself blowing up because it also killed vegeta in resurrection of F not because he couldn't take it but because he can't breath in space

[@ZangetsuRX]

bro?.......

[@ZangetsuRX]

nevermind, i watched the video and you told the truth plain and simple. and i appreciate that as someone very interested in scaling

[@kakarot9309]

Isn't TDK universal+ scaling from Perpetua universe destruction? Also CAS was damaged by billions heat of sun, meaninf Cell would one-shot him with a SS level blast.

[@Zarc-s9e]

Bro freezer Is LOW multiversal, Max mid. TDK Is outerversal😂

[@Marlon-qw9kz]

I agree the TDK stomps Frieza but Frieza isn't low multiversal you can get him to low complex at max but still that ain't gonna save him TDK will still violate him and his verse

[@thecomiccurator]

Nah. Here is the author saying she was corporeal after she was brought back out of the source wall, and that she never returned to a noncorporeal state. vimeo.com/735617808 Investigation is key. This was even confirmed in the comic. All of these scans were shown in my very last video. imgur.com/IFZMtI1 imgur.com/yrif35p

[@Hellopeople_of_theinternet]

How many billions of times have I said this, no he IS NOT Outerversal you need to have r>f transcendence and be beyond dimensionality itself and above all physical plane, which TDK is NOT. Perpetua? 6D not even Hyperversal or High Hyper let along fricking Outer dawg. To expand on the 1rst point, Darkest knight should not have struggled against every comic beings at all as an Outerversal character would have wiped out every one of them easily with just their presence or thought including anti crisis wonder woman.

[@Hellopeople_of_theinternet]

To be Outerversal also means to be completely superior to the material and dimensional. Meaning, even if you had Infinite Omniverse it will still be destroyed from just a thought from the WEAKEST Outerversal character out there easily.

[@XxSpirothKurotamaMOONLIGHTxX]

facts.

[@randomdude-qn3vm]

I am confused on this whole "Darkside creates a fake universe and it's not real and pertupeta loses to zeno and TDK loses to Frieza just because, they are not real." If they were real, they would both solo DB Franchise. So basically in a future vid, can you explain with scans that the entire thing with the Fake universe created by darkside meaning anything accomplished in that comic series line is featless

[@thecomiccurator]

My next vid is for you then :)

[@Scotland-j4b]

i dont believe that goku max out to universal and speed of light but i think the intention was goku is that at all time's not letruly all time i mean when he got speed of light and universal goku stead they in akares mind.} what i mean is i dont think akira was thinking about power scaling { but all respect to him RIP}

[@Coldskin1]

6:30 yeah lets not act like cas didnt get damaged beyond repair by mandrakk cas aint special. Anti montior,overmontior and the world forger was made from the overvoid also. By perpetua Cas bascially the same tier as tdk and full power perpetua. Presence/source(not the presence from vertigo) and the overvoid >>>>>>>>>>>>cas The Omniverse wasnt even mention in final crisis.

[@thecomiccurator]

Hi, thanks for the comment, here is some info for you. In this very video, I show another author at DC explaining that the CAS is the Flaw of everything and all Story personified. The CAS is all Story, we watched Story get damaged beyond repair, not a physical robot. "Beyond all form and meaning" imgur.com/JSrAUKL Also in the guide, beyond conceptual. imgur.com/MiLSdSc During the Flash Big Bang series which happened right after Dark Crisis 7, the Flash needs the real Anti Monitor who isn't Perpetua's son. This Anti Monitor isnt the son of Perpetua, but was rampaging outside of and above Perpetua's creation this entire time. Perpetua didn't rip the Overvoid, she ripped Bleedspace. This was confirmed in the Guidebook. imgur.com/yXW7Dpd Bleedspace, not the Overvoid. imgur.com/Oum5LVj I've covered this in about 11 other videos I have on my channel :)

[@Coldskin1]

The actually robot was destoryed and even built its own tombstone but your trying to say cas is everything thats not the overvoid. Be really only refering to just multiverse If we go be final crisis Not omniverse or the source

[@thecomiccurator]

@@Coldskin1 The tombstone was there prior as the CAS walked past it before the fight started, it was meant for the CAS and Story. Then it writes To be continued on its own grave, showing that it didnt die. The grave plot was sealed over as the CAS kneeled on top of it and powered down, so what you said isn't accurate to the comic at all. Also, saying that I said this is not accurate, the guidebook and other authors at DC said it.

[@thecomiccurator]

@@Coldskin1 Ya no, the CAS wasn't destroyed, Story continues on just not personified by the Overvoid anymore in the Hyperstory of the fight between Story and nonstory. No, the Orrery is everything that isn't the Overvoid. Everything and everyone. imgur.com/a/zJ4puId The CAS is the entire Orrery, the Orrery is all existence. The CAS IS THE SOURCE, mate. Its defined the same way the Source is by Grant. imgur.com/V9pTbOC imgur.com/yTFab4Q Let me know if you have questions

[@Coldskin1]

@@thecomiccurator The tombstone was there prior as the CAS "Nil montior: you blind wounded beyond repair and yet you help us" Cas: Mandrakk Asked what words i'd have inscribed on my tombstone only let them be a warning and stop working grant also called mandrakk the anti story final crisis contiuned without them

[@AmsyarBrosku]

Bro forgot dc has type 4 multiverse Even base humans are outerversal Tdk is overkill for comp dbs, this is obviously biased and satire Canon dbs scales to only low complex multiversal via layers of macrosm scalings Dbh is at most base complex multiversal and highball high complex multiversal and anymore is D riding

[@Hellopeople_of_theinternet]

Nah aint no way you said base humans are Outer, I don't read the comics but let me ask you this. Are the humans a material being? Do they transcend all of dimensionality? Do they transcend all forms of omniverse? Do they see the omniverse as fiction and can destroy it just as easily?

[@Hellopeople_of_theinternet]

Also it is noteworthy to know, an Outerversal character (using vsbw wiki tier list btw) are completely superior to any and all material or dimensional construct, meaning even if you had infinite Omniverse it can all be destroyed with just a thought from the weakest Outerversal character out there.

[@eibarmanpessi1142]

​@Hellopeople_of_theinternetyes they do

[@Hellopeople_of_theinternet]

@@eibarmanpessi1142 Are they material beings? If yes, not Outerversal, can they destroy either an Inaccessible Cardinal amount of Space-time continuum or Infinite Omniverses which btw, contains Infinite dimensions and each dimension contains Infinite Multiverses.

[@IbnJaae]

@Hellopeople_of_theinternetso goku, beerus, whis and Zeno would not be outerversal

[@OVERVOID12]

W + fax

[@TheChicken-nt2rs]

DB Fan Cope lmao

[@TheRealVyke]

yeah no