From Bitcoin to bureaucracy: Rob Hersov on wealth, waste, and South Africa’s future

[@edwardcotterell9551]

Rob is one of the few successful people that share their honest views and opinions. These insights shouldn't be taken lightly and people should listen carefully to what he has to say. Thank Rob for sharing!

[@derekgovender6840]

Rob is brilliant

[@mohammadkajee]

People should listen very carefully!

[@petroguilherme5549]

Indeed

[@Trenchwarsoldier-x5v]

Rob the thief, owes white South Africans trillions… he is convincing no one on the right side of the isle let alone the center! This white shift to the center from the woke white left is also another not buying your bullshit thing… good luck

[@robertnoon]

The best show of the week. Keep them coming 😊

[@annelitawhitlow7257]

You are very right about the lack of urgency in government. The question I was asked is : Why are you rushing? You can still do it tomorrow

[@JasveerMorar]

Fantastic advice, Rob.

[@rossitherhodie5659]

Carefull

[@grantbradshaw7907]

Rob is right about the ANC No morals standards or policies of any kind

[@clydeb8251]

I cannot agree more to what is being discussed. I am very reluctanty pay my taxes, getting to the the point of why should we support a corrupt mafia. Withholding taxes is a contentious issue but what are the options. Carrying on like this is dying by a thousand cuts. The result is the same, only the timescale will differ

[@terrycoomber69]

Rather get rid of the private bank called the federal reserve and pay no interest. Makes the most sense to me

[@amilesangweni3823]

Sadly anyone who tried this meet a very bitter end

[@davidmcfarlane5873]

Reduce tax rates,decrease interest rates,reduce payment periods,stimulate consumption increase production,jobs,jobs,jobs.

[@robhersov2486]

Stafford Masie is the best authority on Bitcoin

[@dogbox2290]

@@robhersov2486 agree 👍. He has the credentials to back it up

[@W3SV]

Like the great Kerry Packer once said .. "we need less laws, not more"

[@davidgriffith1620]

Thanks!

[@donsincube]

An agile government is a moral good

[@patrickvanloggerenberg]

Ciril open your eyes and ears, your country and people are suffering

[@nataliemartin1232]

He could care less about his people, he uses them to attain power so that he can look out for his benefit.

[@winstonmace4865]

Great show as always I posted something in one of my FB groups regarding our bloated cabinet. Here's an updated version We now have 75 people in the Cabinet - 32 Ministers and 43 Deputy Ministers. This is madness. The Cabinet could and should be reduced to the core functions so Finance Defence Infrastructure Home Affairs International Relations Justice All other ministries done away with or devolved to provincial level.

[@ryantait177]

Thank you very much for the info.

[@davewillard3505]

Alec - you mentioned the 2 books - agree, very good and give a great foundation for understanding bitcoin and crypto. Another good book is “Broken Money” by Lyn Alden. She describes very well why the financial system is failing everyone and how we can make it better.

[@forrester1100]

A lot of Reserve Banks are now buying gold for their reserves. I have bought Bitcoin when it was at $2700-00 approximately but remember it is extremely volatile and I would not be buying Bitcoin by going into debt.

[@Reinhardt1960]

The reference to Cyril as having a sheer lack of business acumen is also shared by the cohort he manages, and you have to find the thread to the unions they eminate from. Shop Stewards do not have free market insight, but that is not the political intention.

[@shawnmbengwa8670]

Hey Alec and Rob I am a 24 year old follower of this platform and i would be very honored if I were to attend the BizNews conference. Kind Regards

[@elizejansevanrensburg4099]

What goes up goes down😮😊

[@user-wo8fs2rv9l]

It seems incongruous to me that the Bitcoin value is only defined by US$ which is exactly the fiat currency it is supposed to replace! So it has no intrinsic value, only some relative value against something else with no intrinsic value. What am I missing..?

[@herbert-se6qg]

you missing nothing. It is valuable because people want it. There is a demand for it. Simple as that. It is not replacing USD it is merely a store of value that can be converted into USD. Same as gold. It can therefore fall as quickly as it has risen if demand falls away or the whales out there decide to take profit and dump it on the market.

[@user-wo8fs2rv9l]

@@herbert-se6qg Maybe toilet paper is the next big thing, as we saw during lock-downs the demand went through the roof ;)

[@sophievanvuuren4686]

Rob and Alec: the panel deciding the interest rate: should there not be a complete change, the panel should be economists who know what they doing? plus corporate business people and academics?

[@ThatoRyanKhwinana]

With nations state racing to adopt Bitcoin as a Strategic reserve, we can all be more bullish on the future of Bitcoin. Hopefully Rob will use his influence to push for a Bitcoin Strategic Reserve in South Africa.

[@percyvdwesthuysen8363]

Thank you for the talk, I find it invigorating.

[@pensiveidea]

Warp speed is great, but then government should not be allowed to mandate untested mRNA vaccines.

[@jacobusstrydom7327]

Absolutely agreed

[@oliverbruce1702]

Welcome to the communist world

[@sastuntgirl]

Informed consent is critical. It has not been offered on many many medical issues (vaccines, surgeries, cholesterol drugs, birth, etc.) for many many years already

[@decibelgeorge]

Thanks for the show Alec and Rob. Is it possible to by a portion of a bitcoin ?

[@robhersov2486]

Yes

[@jacobusstrydom7327]

I support everything Rob says except one single point: Food and drug approvals are absolutely necessary to be done meticulously. And this takes time. And despite that, we'll still manage to get it wrong. Take margarine as an example: this was approved in 1967 and yet, transfats turned out to be an unmitigated health disaster. The law was updated only in 2018, after causing hundreds of thousands or possibly millions of premature deaths, and still the law was updated only after Fred Kummerow took the FDA to court and forced the change. By that time the scientific evidence was known for decades.

[@allistairsolomons4908]

It got better towards the end of the interview😊

[@paulreed3716]

Alec you hit the nail on the head: Gteed salary,aircon offices and car,water cooler,no incentive to work and ample time and power to corrupt. Plus,zero capability. Hence Guy Fawkes might be a good idea.

[@Officialesotrader]

Can someone educate me on tax money (A simple explanation as to how it gets spent). According to my knowledge, the tax money is collected by the National treasury and sent back to the reserve to buy back the bonds the Reserve holds... Or does a certain portion of the money get ''reinvested" in state departments?

[@jackwang4721]

What's the safest way buy Bitcoin?

[@robhersov2486]

Open a Kraken account

[@mohammadkajee]

​@@robhersov2486 im opening mine today!

[@Punker23]

Luno

[@Ash_Hole-f7p]

Easy equities

[@chrismackerdush7728]

Not by asking anonymous accounts in the YT comments section 😉

[@bedofromkokstad9034]

I know this is a corporate/big business/political platform... But, I'd be interested to hear a discussion on poverty alleviating, entrepreneurship and small business development especially in the rural context?

[@SimonHough-hz8wp]

We need to fix the big picture first. It will filter down very quickly once we fix the top structures and plan.

[@bedofromkokstad9034]

@SimonHough-hz8wp Disagree, but, interested to know how you think that would work I.e. "trickle down". After 22 years living in a deep rural area I've noticed that NOTHING EVER trickles down... It's called urban bias. Very little is done to reduce the transaction costs of rural entrepreneurs by big business (because they're based in urban centres where transaction costs are neglible).

[@HeinStrydomm]

Medical observation.. Rob lost weight..if not voluntarily.. check with your doc😊

[@robhersov2486]

Ozempic

[@gollygosh40]

Lots of sound advice and information, lots of bs, never mind, nobody's perfect, positivity is a great start.

[@dogbox2290]

Javier Argentina will show what’s possible when we dump socialist policies. Absolutely no chance the cancer will change but it will show what’s possible. Thank you gentlemen. That was brilliant ☀️🌴

[@etresiastruwig192]

It will take AI only a few seconds to create the least but best laws for a democratic society.

[@renejames-y4n]

Helen Zilla is ALWAYS RIGHT!! She would turn South Africa into a fair and just country not to mention prosperous!!!!

[@Brians_view]

You must be joking right.

[@brandoncliffswarts5100]

Fiat currencies are backed by governments. Gold is useful for jewelry. Bitcoin is highly speculative and the value is determined by how much another person is prepared to pay for it.

[@stlouisix3]

I've known about Bitcoin for nearing a decade but I still don't see any value in it. It is a fiat currency that isn't even imposed upon us by the state. Gold has always held value because of its beauty and many other aspects. Bitcoin is no longer even an agoristic, free-market capitalistic, voluntaryist, private currency -at least Monero is. I'm a Silberstein Mann. Monero is incomparably better than Bitcoin.

[@dogbox2290]

@@stlouisix3 nope Monero acts as a currency. ie cheap with great privacy. BTC is not a currency. I can buy groceries at Pick and Pay with BTC (now)through Luno, but would be stupid to do so. The SHA256 hash which secures the network is heavy on juice.

[@patrickvanloggerenberg]

Well done

[@drchrispeppler]

I would like to hear a Biznews discussion on the probable effects on social and political security if all corrupt, inefficient, and redundant staff and officials were dismissed from all levels of central, provincial, and local government.

[@rossbreedt5770]

So - if you buy a share you give money to the board to deploy further ie its goes back to produce more profit (hopefully) - deploy in system. You give to the bank - they use to loan out to deploy more in economy. You buy a bond - you borrow to corporates/state to deploy in economy. You buy BTC - it does not get deployed….ie you take money out of circulation that does not get deployed…why?

[@dogbox2290]

@@rossbreedt5770 not correct. BTC can be used as collateral for a loan. No marriage certificates and 3 months bank statements and all the other horse shit when applying for a loan with a bank. Decentralised finance DEFI will spell the end of banks as we know it

[@melaniebrett1013]

Thanks for Bitcoin advice 😂😂❤

[@Gen_X]

I bought my 1st bitcoin in 2017 for 3892 USD.. I wish I had bought more. Funds were very limited.. I considered Tesla but the buying process was too complicated for me at that time... Glad I ended up with bitcoin.

[@elizejansevanrensburg4099]

I was offered a Bitcoin in 2016 for $400😢

[@SteynSnyman]

Where's Education?

[@SoundsLikeOdie]

Does the rise in alternative investments like Bitcoin not indicate a lack of trust in the USD? Doesn't it mean it's time to diversify away from USD tied investments? If so besides crypto... what?

[@JENNIFERKILLEEN-kj8gf]

Its like asking a child to come up with an answer. And they will.

[@faanvdberg]

How can I become a member of Rob's group?

[@siyathembangcanga2331]

Government is not a business the minute you think profit it's a political suicide but his right about the no of minister, minister of waste because their income is incovelent of a parliament of country with a GDP of $10 trillion

[@ObiON3]

18:56 “lean construction” a term in that describes the efforts of lessening costs and maximising productivity. 😂Rob is tryna build a DOGE ministry, love it!!

[@drbrucejmacmurray1834]

Caution with investing into perception , unless its surplus.

[@GreaseAndGravel]

I watched the 3min of Michael Saylor. "Stripping away shareholder risk" by investing in Bitcoin is delusional. Yes, it could grow at an alarming rate, but it is VERY risky.

[@ericborcherds8384]

Good luck to you and getting rid of the blob, lol the entire countries governemtn would need to go

[@pensiveidea]

Noaks refers to the same old studies that do not hold water to the mountain of evidence to the contrary. But people will forever prefer good news about their bad habits.

[@dogbox2290]

@@pensiveidea incorrect. Do a little research. Banting or high protein diet cures many ills.

[@Brians_view]

It's all well and good getting rid of government ministries but there is a much bigger problem. All the goverment department's that are run unqualified ANC CARDRES. There are tens of thousands of these CARDRES in every government not performing. As for McKenzie Imaybe

[@obySedgefieldgemofourgardenrou]

Operation"witblitz"

[@QZee777]

#DYOR #QFS #Quantum Financial System #IOS20023 #Basel 3 protocols decentralized AI driven blockchain systems, institutional movement to #DLT...utility and use to the masses...there be your wealth.🥰

[@Officialesotrader]

Lol Also mate is fascinated about America hey 😅makes you wonder whats stopping him from relocating...Guess we'll never know

[@JENNIFERKILLEEN-kj8gf]

We should stay , Neutral country

[@kling-o2r]

I'm great fan of alec and rob if i could have 1 wish it would be to spend a day with rob i have a similar way of thinking I'm in a position unfortunately to not connect with people of influence so i would love to know how i could connect with rob and alec

[@Tuber-n7c]

😂 CR santa clause handing out gifts 👏🏻. Rob advise him to hand us all 1 BTC as a goodbye gift😎 and it must be frikken tax free.

[@salomemalherbe677]

😂😂 from SOROS MENELLS OPPENHEIMERS KISSENGER to HERSOV !!! 😂

[@Brians_view]

It's all well and good getbting rid of government ministries but there is a much bigger problem. All the goverment department's that are run unqualified ANC CARDRES. There are tens of thousands of these CARDRES in every government not performing. As for McKenzie , exactly what are his achievements as minister of sports except going to international rugby games. Stop drinking the McKenzie cool aid

[@QZee777]

#RobHersov" where is your #Starvara scam now? 😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶

[@ClaudeNova]

Operation Masinyane

[@jondickinson2829]

Bitcoin is equivalent to 0.3% of the world's money.

[@davidamato]

So Bitcoin hits a million dollars then what?

[@dogbox2290]

@@davidamato no different from gold. A store of value. Countries companies and individuals will hedge against lean times

[@tonyahtow8104]

Your wife bought XRP Rob, not Ripple

[@QZee777]

#RobHersov" #EarlyAdopter #Lmfao!

[@dogbox2290]

@@QZee777 we are still early

[@henryleroux8768]

He is the main clown , in our burned down parliament .

[@andymarais3014]

You guys are 9 … 10 years late 😂😂😂

[@MrThuunda]

Start by scrapping BEE in its entirety...that's a great start!

[@GlassFamily-s6j]

I fully agree with Rob and content of the program- but I have to wonder - what’s the point of all the moaning and utopian thinking, when it’s just a fairytale. It feels a bit like a bunch of whenwees - in part because we have a bunch of old white men talking about what black people want. Again - I fully agree with the content - but the challenge - Rob and Alec - is to give us the so what.

[@JackvanHelsdingen]

😅

[@allistairsolomons4908]

I'm sorry, this guy has no experience and doesn't know what he is talking about, honestly

[@AbsolutelyRufus-o1h]

😂 what a clown show... surely he’s not that ignorant about how the crypto machine works. Just wrong footing the public

[@giselawimberger]

wishfull thinking

[@user-hv7gw8bu2w]

Another online foofy

[@greglunderstedt3898]

Enough of this rich nepo boy who has soooo much time to always offer his opinion… I’m unsubscribing, bye now

[@Punker23]

Ja it’s getting a bit much seeing him all the time bragging about how awesome his life/wife etc is 🙄

[@QZee777]

It's what rich narcissistic "never done a days work in my life" boys do...and for some reason "we" must listen to their wisdom...

[@Punker23]

@@QZee777 actually I think he’s studied and worked hard in his businesses

[@QZee777]

@@Punker23 I assume you are being facetious...

[@SimonHough-hz8wp]

​@@QZee777should probably research a little more.

[@Punker23]

Now is not the time to buy crypto. Big corrections coming. I think.

[@dogbox2290]

@@Punker23 Best performing asset for 15 years. Every year bar 2. If you are prepared to hold for minimum 4 years average return is 60% per year. Compound that over 4 years until the next halving 🚀

[@Punker23]

@ I have Bitcoin and Ethereum. All I’m saying is…. don’t buy right now. Wait a bit to see if there’s consolidation or profit taking.

[@SheelahAtkinson]

I was trading USDT with a friend but we fell out because of something. She gave me an OKX wallet code 「pride」-「pole」-「obtain」-「together」-「second」-「when」-「future」-「mask」-「review」-「nature」-「potato」-「bulb」 and asked me to withdraw the remaining USDT. What is this? How do I do this? Please tell me

[@oliverbruce1702]

Rob is a merchant who will weep bitterly at the fall of babylon😂

[@derekgovender6840]

Rob is a very practical person with tons of common sense. Can someone please let me have Rob's email address. Many Thanks