From One Shut-In to Another; Psychologist Reacts to Mushoku Tensei Season 2 Episode 17

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[@istoOi]

Rudy is basically a walking nuclear bomb. If someone like that makes even a slightly upset face, it's no wonder that people around him look scared.

[@1mikeap4]

It's also because he's always so amicable so it's really rare to ever see him angry.

[@aeirie-ii1993]

The most powerful glass cannon

[@KamiSamaisPissed]

"Some people out there have it worse than you" this is the last thing you'd wanna say to someone who's already extremely traumatised and depressed

[@Eterrath]

I knew this episode wasn't gonna be covered in an hour and a half. Glad we got double that

[@gudi_esau]

"Trauma is stored in the balls" -Some wise individual

[@Tounushi]

I have to point out the excellent decisions in the direction that were used in Norn's room. Rudeus sitting down on the floor while Norn was sitting on her bunk. He's lowering himself in her presence. It's only when he talked to her and tried to connect that he stood up. The memory of Norn with her father after he reconciled with Rudeus had the room from the Search and Rescue Squad's HQ, but the walls kept stretching on as the camera zoomed out, leaving Norn and Paul as an ever-shrinking and distant corner of light in a room that is starting to stretch to infinity.

[@DarkSonicSpear]

I especially like how when Norn saw Rudy as her father, she wasn't seeing him as the clean shaven confident leader of the Fitoa Rescue Squad. He was the sunken face, unkempt, struggling man who was doing his best to comfort her even while he was uncertain. How could she continue to be afraid of this person who was so desperate to help her he looked like he was about to cry?

[@hhjan594]

I like how he literally just saw one episode of the 2 sisters and is already accurately predicting certain issues they will have in adulthood.

[@ky8252]

This episode was amazing, they were quite successful in adapting Norn's POV, but there are 2 things that could have made this episode better. 1. Norn was really afraid of Rudeus, all this time she was always afraid of being hit by Rudeus, when she argued with Aisha and when Norn wanted to move in to the dorm, she was really afraid that Rudeus would get angry and hit her. So it really did have an impact when Norn finally said "My brother won't hit me" 2. The reason Norn finally accepted Rudeus, it wasn't as simple as Rudeus being similar to Paul, but Rudeus' expression at that time was the same as Paul's expression when he was at his worst, Paul didn't know how he could make up with Rudeus after their conflict, Paul was afraid that Rudeus would reject him, Norn finally understood that Rudeus was afraid of being rejected by her, just like Paul, there finally all her hatred towards Rudeus disappeared, she finally understood her brother's feelings.

[@dead3716]

Man, I loved this episode so much. Hopefully, the next episode is just as wholesom- 2:13:06

[@l30nard03]

Best episode this Season...For now, this was amazing 🤩

[@sora2541]

Fun fact, ss2 ep 17 is Rudy making up with Norn and ss1 ep 17 was Rudy making up with Paul

[@jjpasay]

🐭🐭🐭🐭🐭🐭🐭: You're looking a little too happy there, Rudy boy.

[@Tounushi]

Rudy, did I just catch you getting your life together?!

[@Ricardo_Rick]

Norn deserves to be happy, i'm glad she managed to overcome her fear of Rudy. Rudy didn't even realised how much he helped Norn there, he still have the inferiority complex, he assumed Norn overcame the misconceptions all by herself, but the impact he made on her and people around her helped a lot, i hope he realises that soon. The scene in the room was really well done, i loved it, i almost got emotional there. Next episode will be a banger, i hope you are ready XD

[@psyculturists]

Would you say next episode is going to be a turning point 😂😂

[@Ricardo_Rick]

@@psyculturists For the third time that is

[@gogogadgetrectalpunch7436]

In the LN, Norn actually does fight herself in regards to whether she is wrong about Rudy or it’s everyone else who’s wrong and she realizes it can’t possibly be everyone else. Her mental state in her POV and her thoughts are expanded upon much more. There are several chapters of the LN that I believe you’d love to dissect. Specifically other characters POV chapters like Norn (chapter 5 of Vol 11) and Eris (chapter 13 of Vol 6). There are other characters who have this kind of chapter like Zenith, Lilia, Lilia and Aisha together, Paul and Sara. Imo these are some of the most interesting chapters in the series that the anime doesn’t cover.

[@juusovuolle8251]

Eris especially was really well written in my opinion hope we see her again soon

[@gogogadgetrectalpunch7436]

@@juusovuolle8251 wait I’m confused. Did you only read the Eris chapter or are you an actual LN reader? Cuz if you read it, you should know if/when we see her again

[@MysticLuka]

Well, season 2 is almost certainly gonna end with volume 12 so he'll have to become an LN reader to read those with context.

[@BrunoGrimaldi-lx9hg]

47:30 interesting question 👀 Maybe the rat knows the answer

[@ivansoto9723]

Ratatouille LOL

[@KwittyKat15]

In the opening, there's a sequence with Norn at the school as she passes by Rudeus, initially you can see her despair and feeling caged by the school window pillars. Then as she meets Rudeus she was initially looking upset at him and then smiling basically portrayed this episode.

[@Ken-mg8zg]

I'M GONNA CRY AGAIN ED HOLD ME!

[@user-kw8nr5mt7v]

As a kid, i really hated when my parents said stuff like "other people have it way worse", it just felt like they were trying to tell me "hey, your feelings are invalid/your not allowed to feel that way/your ungrateful because others have it worse". idk, all i gotta say, parents, dont tell your kids this. your just making them feel worse/not adressing the real issue

[@loblo5542]

Oh god... He figured out something I thought no one ever could from the opening... 37:45

[@ScarTalon]

Man what a tough episode emotionally. I'm really glad Rudy especially, and Norn, were able to work through some of their trauma and start taking the steps forward. As someone who hasn't gone through the extreme Rudy did in his past life, but a version of it (the self isolating part and that portion of it) it was hard for me to watch this. I really relate to how Rudy feels. I have shut myself off for most of my life. It wasn't until this past year or so i finally started taking the steps Rudy wasn't able to. It's been very hard, and im proud of myself for how far I have come. I've made a lot of progress. I haven't had anyone in my life like Rudy's brother, although im sure even if i did I would have been just like Rudy. All in all, I hope if anyone else reads this comment and is going through a similar journey, You can pull yourself out of it. I still struggle, and most days are really hard. I'm getting pretty emotional typing this, but you have to start moving forward and face reality. Do what you need to do for yourself and your future. I'll be 26 this month, and I wish i could go back in time a decade ago and convince myself to do what I have done this past year and share what I feel now. You can very easily tell how much regret he has over his past life. I am the same. But now that he's moved forward and healed somewhat, he's in a happier place. I'm reaching for that same path. Getting the right doctor who i trusted, who helped push me really helped. After being deathly afraid of it and avoiding any thought of it my entire life, I finally started therapy late last year and its been really helpful. 1:03:16 I probably have had undiagnosed depression for a large portion of my life which I have been working through with my therapist. Among other issues I believe its severely affected me growing up, and I still struggle with it. 1:03:48 I have self isolated my whole life and i've always struggle with socializing so It'd be really hard for me. I haven't had a real support system to vent to and rely on pretty much my whole life. 2:04:50 i got emotional the first time i saw this but after re-watching it here, man it had my in tears. The first step is always the hardest. You are worthy of happiness and love. Don't let yourself tell you otherwise This episode cemented Mushoku Tensei as my favorite anime of all time. The author and animators did and do such an amazing job portraying real emotions, how these characters struggle through life and overcome obstacles. ugh It's just so good.

[@namanari9859]

Удачи тебе , парень! Надеюсь я смогу сделать этот самый первый шаг, как его сделал и ты. Good luck to you, man! I hope I can take this very first step, as you did.

[@ScarTalon]

@namanari9859 wishing the best for you ❤️ you got this! The first step was the hardest for me

[@HaxeRain]

This episode and this sections in the light novel are some of my favorites by a long shot, but at the same time, its always hard to read them back on as ive gone and am going through some similar experiences, the level of care and tact the anime had and the depth on the novel is just something else, i legitimatelly cried with the episode again, even after reading the novel a few times already, that level of relatability and directin it has and its something i really cant find on other shows, not on this level at least, it really just speaks to the heart and what better than our boy Ed to analyze it, and the only thing ill say is, the novel and series doesnt let go, it will keep developing moments and characters and im all down to see your reactions to them Ed

[@Brianworldwide_7]

I related so much to this episode and it hurt me so much. Mushoku tensei is magical.

[@vicity27]

HYPE for next episode !!!

[@GBlockbreaker]

i was absolutely blown away by this episode when i first watched it even though i already knew what was coming, easily one of the best episodes in the entire series

[@13Nagash13]

I watched the final 2 episodes of your lie in april 2 weeks after i lost another cousin that was only in their 50s. I wasnt able to travel for the funeral. Ill admit, even as a mid 40s adult, those episodes released that primal,ugly cry that i didnt know i was suppressing.

[@sirmcdust5572]

Can't wait for next week. They say third time's the charm so surely this Turning Point is a good one!

[@andrewsheppard1940]

I am looking forward to Ed's reaction almost as much as the episode itself.

[@Silver_Sage663]

@@andrewsheppard1940 Ed will be estatic lmao.

[@arandomweeb177]

I'm sorry, when Ed asked "where is trauma stored?" At 1:33:20 I immediately answered in my head "In the balls"

[@saiyanfang1047]

41:40 no one at Ranoa has better earth magic than he does.

[@JzanderN]

Ed: "Chat, I have a question..." Mods: _Prepare emote only mode_

[@sirmcdust5572]

The comment saying Ben will be happy (when Ginger appeared for a bit) is so bittersweet. The biggest Ginger fan but he can't watch it currently because of that bipolar episode he is going through. Hopefully it dies down soon, that man needs to see his Ginger.

[@rkpyi8616]

BPD?

[@sirmcdust5572]

@@rkpyi8616 I got Bipolar Disorder and Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) mixed up. Ben has the former he mentions it in Autosaves last community note (hence their lack of content for the past two weeks)

[@KaileyTheAlien]

I just realised MT will become interspecies revs in a few episodes

[@fyt159]

Damn it I thought I wasn't gunna cry the second time watching this.

[@gigglestomp5403]

When Rujerd does psychology things: Win When Geese does psychology things: I don't trust him.

[@gigglestomp5403]

Ed: You mentioned you saw Einalise in the fight scene in the opener. What are the implications of her being there, given her condition?

[@pqjsmzhwdidigsbrlsyahwnwue8439]

Hell yeah!

[@meganmartin3373]

Huh... Pretty sure I'm avoidant - fearful, whatever that means.

[@kodytiffany5686]

What makes me feel less deppressed is victory. in anything. Knowing I am not failing acts counter to the defeats in my life. Laughing like a mad man. It counters the crippling melancholy of "meh"ism that constantly hangs in the air. Swimming and pool play... its about the only exorcise I want. So it obviously is the only version of working out I am willing to do at the moment. Watching reactions and in yours and a few others cases; analyzing of shows I like... I know why I like it but its soothing to see if or how others agree. I feel like I am not and never was human just an entity stuck in a human husk... so in seeing the similarities it makes me feel more connected. Etc. the ways are innumerable and all act to counter the ways I am deppressed. Having lost my mom I lost my reason to care about Earth and others 100%ly now its compassion I have but its filtered through the sad and reminds me of what I have lost. I never knew how important she was until she was not there. Like I lost my better half altho I never had Etipus like thoughts. just she was my only support for years and now I must rebuild in this savage devil filled world of liars and manipulators trying to convince you they have YOUR best interest at heart when they clearly do not. That and my few friends and family. I feel I at best manage 40% of my deppression and at worst 34%. As I have said before... Life is the only option; so I consider life the only path; death cannot be an option or it can be your only in the darkest times.

[@doublebbastard7514]

The number one question I want answered is how climb is managing to keep up with enileses “needs”

[@Tounushi]

Cliff is considered a chad for a reason.

[@elchurroviejo7834]

yeah they get it on ALL THE TIME lmao

[@kenziewatchesstuff]

*See the almost 3 hour runtime* Here we goooooooo

[@ScarTalon]

Its probably because im dumb but i cannot find the guy you always talk to at the ends channel. I tried googleing spiritual analysis but cant find it anywhere. Could anyone provide a link to his social media or youtube?

[@psyculturists]

Espiritu Analysis on KZbin ❤️

[@Espiritu_Analysis]

👀I have been summoned haha

[@psyculturists]

@@Espiritu_Analysis they’ve been searching the internet realms for you my lord 😂❤️

[@ScarTalon]

@Espiritu_Analysis yeah it just came down to me getting the spelling wrong haha 😄

[@hex7003]

PeakTensei, loved this ep

[@MatiFalsetta]

Esto es CINE señores!

[@NateSATheLegend]

Let me say to to those who responded woth, "I do t need a support network" or "I can pull myself out of anything" Can we do it alone? Sure, we can pull ourselves out kf the dark places eventually. But I will say, it's a lot easier to do it alone when you are young, teens, young adults, etc. But after turning 30 and havi g experienced the power of having family be there for you, you begin to understand that while you felt you could have done it all on your own when you were young, you realize that won't always work. The older we get, the more complicated our problems get, eventually we need to lean on others for help. I believe learning g to rely and get help from others is one of those core aspects of being an adult.

[@blasternine8814]

The following items are wild speculation. I have not looked ahead at any materials. What could be so impactful that it would be considered "Turning Point 3"? 1) Nanahoshi's experiments inadvertently creating a portal sustained by ambient mana instead of a one-off movement between worlds. 2) Eris showing up.

[@jjpasay]

To those who don't mind a little spoiler/overview of the next Turning Point... ... ... ... It won't be as "explosive" as the first two. It's not gonna be some "break the internet" type of shit. It's gonna be relatively harmless at first glance. Unlike the first two that were like bombs, TP3 is like poison. Effects won't be as apparent at first but you'll know when it's finally kkcked in.

[@hhjan594]

tbh that's because the actual bomb aint happening until a couple more episodes in. but yeah just "that one line" in the next episode is exactly the "turning point" in regards of the story structure.

[@filipeoliveiraladislau4533]

people mentioned Ascendence of a bookworm so i want leave my 2 cents Despite i arriving quite late to the AoB party(MT i stated reading WN since was just a few dozen chapters) it climbed to my favorite of all time spot, there a 3 season lowbudget adaptation that is good but doenst HIT it, but season 4 got picked up by WIT studio so expectations on the fandom are quite high

[@shrimps7915]

2:13:06 for next episode title

[@rotmistrzjanm8776]

1:46:00 oh yeah I have fought to get to red since childhood bc of toxic parents. I have literally planned to kill myself from happiness after fullfilling this up. Fortunatelly that was prolonged process, not point with all at all + in the meantime I've build support network.

[@kodytiffany5686]

Ca a person reach 76 and not encounter any of these at all. As in not fail or succeed simply it never came up in the first place? Related to that... Your a robot and have Hal level of Intelligence (2021 space odessy or whatever the movies name was)... does ericsons apply to non-humans?

[@alif5217]

Hay Psycluturists can you watch dungeon meshi that show has a really good artistic character and I'm really interested to watch your reaction to that and also it really funny ❤

[@coughme]

Boy are we trying at any opportunity to get it on stream! XD If you have the opportunity - join the discord and get pings whenever there's a poll on stream - me and other dungeon meshi fans try to get it on there often.

[@leonsdx]

El Gran Ratón

[@filipeoliveiraladislau4533]

1:45:00 maybe was intentional but part of me want to hurt the person that did this maslow pyramid color scheme

[@FelinoKnows]

I wanna watch these videos but it’s too long 😭

[@alif5217]

F ya 2:46:00 long ep

[@assimilater-quicktips]

One of the frustrating things about being a big fan of your content, is I feel like I have to avoid the wrath of the MT mafia. My feelings towards MT are complicated, and I was damn near ready to drop the series when the first half of season 2 aired. But then I get an episode like this that completely broke me and I wanted to see your analysis of it. And amidst all the good stuff I get buffeted with the chat and other off handed comments by you about MT haters and being put in the box about what I don’t like about the series. And I know some of it is projection, I’m sure you’re aware that people aren’t a monolith in how they see the series, but there are enough wide generalizations of statements made I feel unwelcome

[@AnimeSimp234]

Late to this, but here's what I'll say; the fact that you are even here watching the show with us and appreciating it proves that you aren't among those Ed and the rest of us make fun of. So please don't feel unwelcome!

[@assimilater-quicktips]

@@AnimeSimp234 I think it would do people well to be careful about what they criticize, who they include in the group via their language, and the implications of what they say about said group. Idk what you specifically may or may not have said, I only speak to the “enough…statements made”. It could literally be two or three especially loud people in the community that are bothering me. I just see this type of demonizing remark frequently and there is never any pushback to it, meaning the community complicity condones it in the moment

[@rotmistrzjanm8776]

2:42:00 Maybe that's webnovel thing but Sylphie is follower of Millis thanks to Zenith

[@jonnyLS-rn1ji]

Sylphiette is not a follower of Millis Norn is

[@rotmistrzjanm8776]

@@jonnyLS-rn1ji Ok I see, so they changed it compared to WN or I missremember. But I am quite sure that she is pro Millis teaching anyway

[@bravosix2960]

@@rotmistrzjanm8776Probably not, if she was then she wouldn’t have been so accepting of polygamy and expecting Rudeus to have a second wife.

[@rotmistrzjanm8776]

@@bravosix2960 I guess. But she had lots of time to come with terms to it. Not to mention living with basically her second familly (Zenith, Lilia and Paul) where there was one follower of Millis who tolerated that.

[@bravosix2960]

@@rotmistrzjanm8776 Yeah, I think Sylphie isn’t entirely fine with it. As most characters in the story, her thoughts are complicated.