From Roman Empire to South America? Carthages Lost Warriors | Documentary

[@DS-ud6ys]

In 1982 Steven Callahan crossed the Atlantic Ocean in a life raft after he lost his sailboat in a night storm near the Canary Islands. His ordeal lasted for 76 days until he was rescued near Guadeloupe. He was carried by the currents and trade winds across the entire ocean in less than 3 months without any help of a sail, motor or even a simple paddle (highly recommend his book Adrift: Seventy-six Days Lost At Sea). In 1493 Christopher Columbus traveled the same route in only 3 weeks. So, we can imagine that one-way travel to the Caribbean and South America (most likely not planned, but due to some emergency situation like a storm or disease outbreak) was perfectly survivable during ancient times. Probably happened many, many times, but none of those sailors were able to come back and tell the stories about their life and adventures in the New World.

[@ChrisfromGeorgia]

I'm in my mid-40's and the scenarios like the one's you mentioned have fascinated me ever since I was a child. Godspeed👍

[@iamgermane]

They have found Roman amphorae vases off the coast of Brazil but the Brazilian government covered the discovery up by litterally dumping material onto the site.

[@binabina4445]

​@@iamgermanesource?

[@iamgermane]

@@binabina4445 Look it up.

[@mrbaab5932]

The currents are circular. The current that goes from West Africa around Cameron goes along the north coast of South America and turns around Venezuela.

[@kennyhagan5781]

The Azores, Corvus in particular. The Portuguese "discoverers " found an ancient equestrian statue on the western promontory, the man on the horse was pointing west, out to sea. The statue was reportedly ancient, eroded by time. Since the Portuguese crown insisted on being the first to discover the Azores, they had the statue destroyed. Pointing west, out to sea.....

[@chetisanhart3457]

It's just make believe.

[@andykg7103]

@@johnnyjericho8472fantasía total

[@Andy_Babb]

I’m glad this channel has started uploading good stuff again!!!!

[@jankosmith5667]

Like so many times before Sardinia has been massively ignored again but if you look at the Kuelap fortress you'll realize that its walls are identical to how the Nuraghe were built and Sardinia was a "Phoenician" cultural center, some scholars are even convinced that the so called "Phoenicians" and the ancient Sardinians were one and the same people.

[@optimusprinceps3526]

Ra Expedition

[@Joanna-il2ur]

Sardinia was a Carthaginian island and when the Romans took it over, they ignored Rome and just carried on.

[@optimusprinceps3526]

@@Joanna-il2ur Was 🤣

[@jankosmith5667]

​@@Joanna-il2ur lol @ "Carthaginian island" the Sardinians and the Phoenicians had peacful trade relations long before Carthage was founded by the Phoenicians themselves and if you wouldve looked into the matter properly you'd also know that there is the only one pyramidal structure aka ziggurat in Europe and the mediterranean built 6000 years ago standing in Sardinia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_d%27Accoddi ... and everyone agrees on the fact that Phoenicians didnt have anything to do with it.

[@jankosmith5667]

@@Joanna-il2ur when Rome was still a swamp 4000 years ago here on Sardinia there were approximately 20 000 cyclopean megalithic stone towers all over the island aka Nuraghe and the sardinian language contains more latin elements than any other alive language which could also point to Sardinians maybe being the forefathers of the Romans...

[@thumbstruck]

The Basques should also be mentioned, as they were instrumental in Atlantic fishing, having posts in New Foundland and Nova Scotia.

[@sabineb.5616]

thumbstruck, yes, and the Portuguise cod fishers might've reached the North American continent as well before Columbus. Many experts believe that Columbus had some informations about a land mass which could be reached by crossing the Atlantic ocean. That said, none of these alleged earlier crossings had the profound impact of Columbus' voyages. He put the Americas officially on the European maps. If there were earlier sporadic crossings, they didn't leave many traces. There are no indications that the Native Americans were hit by devastating pandemics and waves of depopulation before 1482.

[@thumbstruck]

@@sabineb.5616 nice summation!

[@sabineb.5616]

@@thumbstruck , thanks 😀 We should of course not forget about the Greenland Vikings, about whom we know today for sure that they reached the North American continent almost 500 years before Columbus. But they also left only small foot prints. Until one of their settlements was actually found and excavated, many experts doubted that the Norse sagas about "Vinland" and the native "skraelings" were actually true.

[@lightningboltpt]

columbus saw inuits in ireland before venturing @@sabineb.5616

[@Joanna-il2ur]

Irish nationalists claim Rome never reached Ireland. At its closes point to Wales, Ireland is 35 miles away. They did also conquer Scotland south of the Antonine wall, so they were eight miles. There are Roman artefacts in Ireland and a Roman dock at Drumanagh, near Dublin.

[@indfnt5590]

civilian artifacts? 🤔 It was not all violence. Maybe brought in during peace time.

[@Joanna-il2ur]

@@indfnt5590 There is no evidence for any violence between the Irish and Romans. The artefacts are mostly metalwork and pottery, as they tend to be, as little else survives. They are found inland. There is an excellent book by David Rankin, The Celts in the Classical World, which has a long appendix on Ireland.

[@lawrencefox563]

A Roman dock but no Roman's seems inconsistent.

[@Joanna-il2ur]

@@lawrencefox563 trade.

[@danielefabbro822]

Well yes, Romans traded a lot with people from what in past was called "Ibernia", modern days Ireland. Historically speaking, that was one of the few peaceful contacts between Romans and old "barbarian" populations. Indeed even today relationships between Italy and Ireland are quite friendly and the people from both countries are quite warm and welcoming in both directions. As Italian myself, I found Ireland and Irish people to be really nice and interesting.

[@LuisVillanuevaCubero]

Amazing! Thank you for this wonderful documentary.

[@jaglazzarinim2558]

In 1982 I was in Rio a Roman or Greek ship was found in the Bay of Rio deJaniaro

[@davidmontoute2074]

I remember that report. Strange that the documentary didnt bring it up.

[@gustavocarvalho2300]

And in a mountain in Rio have phoenician inscriptions

[@chinchanchou]

Is a lié i stay there and was portugués, ridículo people belive in líes

[@maxi-me]

That's fascinating to hear! I love it when they find those old _Classical Era_ ships and they're still fully loaded with cargo. Nevertheless, that's a long way from the Empire.

[@jaycarey3863]

There was also one found in Honduras by the islands of Roatan

[@davidkuder4356]

Really interesting and well-produced. Lots of dots seem to connect. I think the slingshot design and uses is a clincher to the plausibility of this speculative process. Nice to see some archaeologists willing to use some imagination for a change...

[@danielclayton7524]

What amazed me is, I never had kindergarten at my school in1964. An from the finger painting you showed, they must have had kindergarten way back then.😮

[@mnk9073]

Give how the trade winds pick up around the Azores it's possible that a few Carthaginian cargo ships were carried off to South America over the centuries. There was a Roman wreck full of amphorae discovered off the coast of Rio in the 70s or 80s. BUT wether the crew survived this is highly debatable, given how sailors of the age hugged the coastline and only carried provisions for a handfull of days...

[@joebombero1]

The reference to Diodorus Siculus is from his Library, 5.20.3 These books are available for free online. Just google. The reference is really fascinating. Also of interest, when Diodorus discusses Atlanteans, who, he says, are living on the rim of the great ocean. He then discusses their mythology (book 3). Really interesting because the Maya said they originated from "Atl" which was their word for Ocean, as far as I was told.

[@johnfisher247]

Plato is the originator of the Atlantis story. It is most likely Santorini.

[@Queton17]

@@johnfisher247 No and no. The story of Atlantis is Egyptian and was given to one of Plato's forebear, who then told it to Plato. The alleged city/region/country of Atlantis is located beyond the "pillars of Hercules" which is the strait of Gibraltar. If one understands that the water levels used to be lower by 400ft (120 meters) then Atlantis could very well be beneath the Azores Islands, the latters being the mountain tops that never went underwater. Also, the Basque people say that they originated from "Atlantica", a powerful maritime nation.

[@Weeny-ol8lh]

😂😂

[@optimusprinceps3526]

@@johnfisher247 a most logical conclusion

[@FrikInCasualMode]

@@Queton17 There is no mention of anything resembling Atlantis anywhere before Plato. Not a word about it was found in any Egyptian script ever translated. Also, Solon - the one who allegedly heard tale of Atlantis from Egyptian priest, lived about 300 years before Plato. Yeah, surely every word of it is true.

[@lewis7315]

Read the book ""America BC"" by Dr Barry Fell. Yes, A 2nd century Roman shipwreck was found on the Yuccatan, Mexico coast in 1722 ... The Bourne stone my home town on Cape Cod says the Cape belongs to king Hanno of Carthage.. MANY sites along our East coast...

[@LordOfLight]

This is not true. A ship of some sort may have been found, but Roman galleys were never ocean-going.

[@Talnaus]

​@@LordOfLightif a Roman ship was returning from Wales and got caught In a storm before entering the Mediterranean the ocean currents could drag a ship to the Caribbean/northern South America.

[@lewis7315]

@@LordOfLight I read about this shipwreck in a History of the Americas published in the 1880s long before the obsene revisionist historians changed the records in the early 20th century... Romans had ships that carried 500 passengers and cargo across the Mediterranian. In Ancient times the Greeks, Romans sailed their ships up the Nile in Egypt, through the canal to the Red Sea, then to India! In other times the Phoenicians transfered their cargo the fifty miles from the Nile to the Red sea then sailed other ships to the far East. This trade continued from 1500BC to very recent times. The Chinese circumnavigated the world in 500 foot long ships before Columbus! It's in their historical record! I have two books about this! They had trading posts all along the West coasts of both continents and sent expiditions inland! An Humongous Tsunami wiped out most of the trading posts. A subsequent Chinese Emporer stopped all ocean voyages as it just cost too much for too little return!

[@icedragon1000]

@@LordOfLight um what? what did they sail on? you are not classifying the Med. ocean as an ocean?

[@LordOfLight]

@@icedragon1000 I'm not classifying the Mediterranean SEA as an ocean. It has never been called an ocean - except by you - nor is it large enough to be categorised as such. While certainly subject to bad weather it's a calm pond compared to the Atlantic for instance.

[@r.williamcomm7693]

At 34:04 is what some refer to as “squatter man.” At 34:09 the figures are strikingly similar to “sprites” from observing intense electrical storms from higher altitudes. Sprites are red in the sky & appear to red on the side of the rocks in this documentary.

[@Jagdtyger2A]

Picture gorge on the John Day River of Oregon has a number of strange spital hieroglyphs and I have a friend fluent in Gaelic and Gaedic Celtic languages who can translate the Ogum writings to be a narative of a trading expedition. There are also genitic and linguistic markers from British Columbia, Canada. Down to Utah in the Navajo/Deneh lands and back up to the Great lakes. Where the MicMac tribe uses heiroglyphs strikingly similar to Egyptian and use several Egyptial nautical terms. EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG DISCOVERED AMERICA

[@dmitryadamenko6518]

Where exactly on John Day?

[@HedgeWizardsHovell]

😂😂😂😂 With you not at you!! Best comment I have seen yet.

[@tomsitzman3952]

The new world was not new and was always part of an inner connect world. Europe was not in the know. I heard a story while in Alaska or it may be in a book in my library, of the first Europeans who came to Alaska finding the natives smoking Virginia tobacco using English white clay pipes. The trade route went from Virgina to Europe, across Russia to Alaska.

[@rickyodom1201]

phoecian up down the miss ( sidon) who cooper in the med there artfacts are all over north and south america

[@Jagdtyger2A]

@@rickyodom1201 Yep including Sumerian Cuneiform inscribed baked clay tablets

[@constantius4654]

While it seems perfectly possible that some Celt-Iberian fishermen from the Atlantic coast of Spain may have been swept by trade winds to South America, the addition of the North African/Semitic Carthaginians to the story looks rather whimsical - not least because there seems to be no DNA support whatever for that.

[@bethbartlett5692]

The subject is proven with DNA. The Phoenicians are of the DNA of Basque, Irish, N African Indigenous White Berbers, and People's 9f the Canary Islands. "DNA Mapping of Migrations Worldwide" by David Reich, PhD, Geneticist, Harvard,. Authentic "Peer Reviewed Science* Beth Bartlett Sociologist/Behavioralist and Historian

[@bethbartlett5692]

​@manueldumont3709 See my reply

[@user-McGiver]

@@bethbartlett5692 and where's your reply?... I went through every comment and reply here 3 times... I didn't find it...

[@gimmethepinkelephant3685]

DNA isn't everything.

[@dahjeekwenglee5909]

@manueldumont3709 type normally not like a broken encryption program pls no one understands you but yourself

[@jeannovacco5136]

These small round structures with pointed roofs bear remarkable resemblance to certain small round primitive Stone homes photographed in southern Italy or maybe Sicily

[@Maungateitei]

Yep, they are also here in New Zealand. Particularly lots in the 4000BC carbon dated Waipoua forest stone city. DNA from a 6000 year old tooth proved identical to the people in Wales at the same time. There is excellent DNA support for ALL this. They are just not looking in the right place. From DNA testing, it is not in dispute that the Waitaha People known as Ngati Hotu, came over repeated migration to escape from "hekaitangata" (the eaters of men), over 195 generations: around 4000 years via Easter Island, Peru, The Caribbean, North Africa and Egypt and Ancient Persian, before their return to New Zealand in 350AD. They knew the maps of winds, currents, and stars to return here to their homeland. and have been sailing All over the planet for over 500 thousand years. And maintain an Ancestry record and climate history of the world for that half a million years. They are reddish blonde and redheaded with light blue or green eyes common. Same reddish skin too.

[@Jagdtyger2A]

There was also the Bay of Jars along the Brazilian coast where ancient amphorae washed up from an ancient Carthagenian or Roman wreck, which had many tons of dirt dumped on the site to protect the Portugese captain who was said to have discovered Brazil

[@margarettaft2944]

Portugal discovered Brazil 500 years ago. Why does Brazil need to protect some one dead for 500 years? Sounds like Kon Tiki expedition in the 1950s. Some Norwegian Thor Heyerdahl believed the ancient Egyptians sailed to Mexico and built the big pyramids in Mexico. He built a replica of an ancient Egyptian ship and sailed to Mexico. Didn’t really prove anything

[@MrAmhara]

That story is not credible.

[@HepCatJack]

I remember seeing online scans of the newspaper article from around 1984 depicting pictures of the amphoras.

[@arturovaldes546]

The Aztec told the Spanish conquistadors that that the Aztec roots were from across the sea toward the rising sun. I suspect Carthage or Phoenicia. In fact Phoenicia used to be known as the land of the rising sun by the Europeans

[@65stang98]

i mean its basically a gurantee some ships got swept off the coasts and taken to SA however they probably were never able to return.

[@drzewowit]

Wouldn't it be more informative to check DNA of the mummies?

[@thiefonthecross7552]

Yes that is why they do not do it.

[@iamgermane]

They have found Roman amphorae vases off the coast of Brazil but the Brazilian government covered the discovery up by litterally dumping material onto the site.

[@Dan_Ben_Michael]

Is it more possible that a conquistador carried a bronze axe and lost it? That seems to me more likely than any other explanation.

[@jondoealoe]

You don't take a bronze ax to a steel ax fight.

[@Dan_Ben_Michael]

@@jondoealoe They could’ve had it for trade or as an ornament or whatever. Besides, the Native Americans have didn’t steel axes.

[@jondoealoe]

@@Dan_Ben_Michael I'm pretty sure at least one Native American did steal axes.

[@Dan_Ben_Michael]

@@jondoealoe in the Andes?

[@jondoealoe]

@@Dan_Ben_Michael I'm pretty sure people steal in the Andes too.

[@johannaprice4880]

Amazing history, when I think of the Inca civilisation who were hardy people. I remember them building the tallest civilisation on Mt pichu pichu. Their history impressed me. 👏 I admire them as people who work hard ethics.🎉😊

[@fryertuck6496]

The Inca didn't build that, they inherited it.

[@johannaprice4880]

God bless 🙌 🙏 them for the struggle they endure from keeping relocating around 🙏 bcos of war and greed.

[@walkurja1970]

​@@johannaprice4880and you dont think the inca ever did anything like that?

[@ChristianPareATLAS]

Look at the ruins. Minimum understanding of construction logic proves the Incas didn't start most cities they lived in. Their own history is saying they found those ruins and built cities around them. Just the size of the rocks from the walls provides enough understanding that Incas only fixed few structures they didn't built the bottom parts with gigantic rocks. We cannot today with our technology rebuild many of those cities

[@mr.x653]

Yemenis built higher located ancient cities than Macchu Picchu

[@macpduff2119]

The DNA of the children confirm European ancestry

[@commodoor6549]

No, they don't. You made that up.

[@gimmethepinkelephant3685]

​@@commodoor6549watch the video, you dimwit. They actually explained it towards the end that there are Peruvian natives with western European DNA within them.

[@susanaaragorn8606]

Yes, but could be from Spanish arrival

[@sabineb.5616]

​​@@commodoor6549, I dont think this is made up, butthe results are not conclusive. More tests are needed.

[@commodoor6549]

@@sabineb.5616 There have been extensive studies, and they are conclusive. Google *_indigenous pre-columbian haplotype snps studies_* . Read scholarly articles and don't believe nonsense from racists on KZbin.

[@optimusprinceps3526]

Since no one ever returned, or wrote anything in Latin, Greek or Carthaginian in the Americas, this is only speculative at best. Good story though, even if old folklore tales.

[@raymundovergararoman2473]

Vikings sagas tells that Erick the red founded Greenland and also that Leif Erickson discovered the Americas, and even the viking drakkars are smaller than roman trirremes still are much more flexible, the enough to resist the storms of the north Atlantic; and I doubt too much the Romans or the Carthaginians knew the routes at the north, since his route to the new world was close to the equator, its longer and more difficult, I wonder how Carthaginians or Romans could cross the atlantic with thissomewhat more rigid boats? For me is much more speculation and imagination than reality

[@veronicalogotheti1162]

The greeks wrote about America

[@veronicalogotheti1162]

​@@raymundovergararoman2473the sagas Half of it are lies

[@veronicalogotheti1162]

​@@raymundovergararoman2473they got sails in 800 this era

[@juanbautistagonzalezalvare4366]

They were whites,in South América,isolated from other indigeneous tribes,traders,they used slingshots,...I bet they were Phoenicians(the red men)...

[@timothykuring3016]

Iman Jacob Wilkins believed that the Odyssey was a coded story about how to navigate across the Atlantic. For instance, The Canary Islands were represented by the Island of the Cyclops, and the smaller islands going West from the main island represented the stones that the cyclops threw at Odysseus as he fled to the West. The Land of the Lystragonians describes the harbor of Cuba, and the inhabitants turned out to be cannibals who ate the landing party to the horror of the men on the ships. The first modern explorer to discover Cuba was eaten by the inhabitants of Cuba on the beach in front of his horrified crew on the ship. He apparently didn't know the codes of the story of the Odyssey. But to sail back to Europe required using the ocean current rather than the winds, which was why Odysseus was given a bag, containing the winds, for the journey home.

[@rickyodom1201]

funny you meant Cuba i read about Spanish ship that sunk after they loaded a gold table i believe the gulf was all most closed i at one time and changed when Christ visted America many citys can found under water between yutan and cuba acystal ball was found in one these clear alum

[@rickyodom1201]

ball if look that up see it looks a lot like the Jaredite balls used to lite there ship

[@edwardmiessner6502]

I read somewhere that a Roman ship was found in Galveston Bay near Houston Texas

[@legiran9564]

Source: "Trust Me Bruh"

[@markjohannsen]

fantastic ! thank you for living your dream life

[@gordonfrickers5592]

Thank you, a very interesting programme behind the click bait title. There are many surprising clues revealed in the past 60 years about ancient mariners. My own interest goes back at least that far as 60 years, as a seaman, historian, ship and boat builder and fated to become a maritime painter with a large website. We now know the Chinese reached East Africa, the Vikings reached North America and Thor Heyerdahl's two Ra expeditions proved that Egyptian papyrus boats could reach South America. We know that on the French and British West coasts strange items from an unknown land sometimes appeared just as litter from the Americas does today. The problem was to have boats sturdy enough for those long hazardous voyages. The Portuguese solved the problem with their Caravels and Carracks, a type of ship used by Columbus. For sure, Breton, Basque and Englishmen were fishing the Newfoundland banks before Columbus' famous voyage. The Portuguese were almost certainly sailing to Brazil, which route they kept a closely guarded secret. Columbus may have sailed with them learning the routes. Columbus spent time in many of the West European ports speaking with seamen before his famous voyage. His genius was to better appreciate then prove the possibilities of a 'new' land to the West and reveal this to the Spaniards. There remains much to be discovered about ancient mariners and their maritime adventures.

[@hazardsandcatastrophes]

Hi, thank you for the response. Can you tell us why the title seems like a "click bait"?

[@gordonfrickers5592]

@@hazardsandcatastrophes thank you for asking. I'll try and answer your question. While I appreciate the desire, even the need to pull in as many views as possible I think the title is misleading. The title could have been equally recognisable, dramatic and as good or a better 'lure' without the 'Roman Empire'. Your otherwise good programme is not about the Roman Empire & S America. Actually I think it deserves an equally appealing more appropriate title as truly you have given this subject a very good general presentation.

[@blueocean2510]

The Vendeti of Gaul were skilled seafarers and had good ships, they used stone structures on cliffs along the coast, as they could escape if overwhelmed with greater force. The ancient trading routes from Northern Europe to Africa may have been sailed by them in their sturdy vessels. The stone structure on one of the Aran Islands on West coast of Ireland may have been built by the Vendeti as a base on the trading route.

[@Bizarreparade]

I just want to hear more about your "Big Website". How many acres is it?

[@garrywagner7717]

Michigan was heavily mined , the copper there is the purest on earth. Where did Venice get all its gold? The gold brokers moved to the Netherlands. They were the orange and then moved to london i. e bank of london, which is curiously seperate from the city of london. Important minerals , charts and the source of goods were all considered state secrets. Here is a good example the fisherman of Bristol were fishing cod off the coast of north America before Columbus discovered rediscovered America.

[@johnedwards3621]

Fredrich Pohl described Carthaginan coins from 460 BC found on a Brazlian beach.

[@MrTikalvideo]

FANTASTIC REPORT!!! Please I hope some day you can investigate about THE COMECHINGONES TRIBE at north of Argentina. The Spaniards found, the were white green eyes beard etc. They still some living there. Thanks

[@noeltewhaiti4403]

Those people are in NZ something about coming from south America I think they are Carthage peoples blond and red haired green or blue eyes fine looking beautiful woman tall men muscular have bred into the Māori people's creating big tall halfbred Māori men and women the same as Croations just as huge something to think about everyone and the Pacifica people are known for being excellent seafarers like Carthagines nothing is impossible

[@noeltewhaiti4403]

No one knew that we come from Taiwan Island and are part of the indigenous people history of Taiwan and yet we are not Chinese but Austronesian language people Thai,Malay, Phillipines, Indonesia, Vietnam, Pacifica, Formosa Taiwan

[@virgiljjacas1229]

The entire area of what is today the Amazon, was full of cities from different time lines and UNKNOWN civilizations. All those medicinal trees were planted by them !!!.

[@jamesgoode9246]

Why is the volume so low on this video ?

[@EllieMaes-Grandad]

Is a book being published soon . . . ?

[@colgatetoothpaste4865]

Bernal diaz del castillo in his book 📖 la historia verdadrta de la conquista describes some of the indigenous people as light skiined people

[@formwiz7096]

There's a theory extant that Atlantis was, in fact, the Americas. Trade with Atlantis was eventually forbidden, they say, and mention of it was also forbiden.

[@49erBen]

Does that mean that history as we know it started in the West???? 🤔

[@HiHo-zh4rd]

Forbidden why?

[@Joanna-il2ur]

This is of course, as we Brits say, bollocks. There is nothing in it except wishful thinking and Class B drugs.

[@iberiusthebrave6304]

The whole story of Atlantis was a “I heard from a guy who heard from a who heard from a guy that lived years ago”. Herodotus said the story went back to the ancient Egyptians from the Bronze Age and said it lay beyond the straits of Gibraltar. one cool theory is that Atlantis may be located where the eye of the Sahara is located, considering the descriptions of Atlantis almost matches what the eye of the Saharan looks like. I doubt Atlantis is under the ocean since there’s no land that’s barely under the sea besides islands like the canaries, Azores and Bermuda.

[@Joanna-il2ur]

@@iberiusthebrave6304 Plato said it came from Solon. Whenever the Greeks didn’t know, they attributed it to Solon. I suspect Plato made it up, possibly while drunk at one of his symposia.

[@stephenfowler4115]

I can't believe what I just saw. An open crate of fish being dragged across a floor and then set on top of another open crate of fish.😮

[@blodekont5458]

24:32 That does not say that the axe is that old, they could have used an old piece of strong wood. Queen guitarist Brain May made his Red Special famous guitar with his dad, the neck is made from a wooden fireplace sidepiece of his grandmother's house. that does not mean that the Red special guitar of Queen is over 100 years old...

[@teresaoconnell4790]

Has anyone seen the Moche I believe, have battle artwork with men wearing Boar tooth helmets. They look like ancient European warriors.

[@adamrussell4703]

Mexican pyramids are like pyramids from an early period of Egyptian culture.

[@commodoor6549]

Not remotely. And if you did your homework, you'd know that the Mexican (Aztec) pyramids are recent iterations of pyramids which came after Mayan pyramids, and those pyramids started off much different and morphed over time. And they are very different, for example the Pyramids of Giza were sealed with limestone. You're not an expert, stop making false claims.

[@rayyanez3527]

YEAH !!! AND CLEOPATRA!... WAS !!. BLACK !!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@thomsbooth4906]

Pyramids are the easiest monuments to build. Their shape provides stability. Pyramids, in one form or another, show up all over the world. To suggest that The native peoples of the Americas needed help to create their pyramids is a racist theory that should be dismissed.

[@herrera123456789]

@@commodoor6549 according to who poser? the historians? the smithsonian?

[@commodoor6549]

​@@herrera123456789 Can you be more specific? And what's with poser? Act your age, not your shoe size.

[@myboloneyhasafirstname6764]

Speculation leads to investigation leads to hypothesis and so on.

[@commodoor6549]

And that's why people thought the moon was made of cheese.

[@myboloneyhasafirstname6764]

@@commodoor6549 And mice. Many disappointed mice.

[@digitallhm8160]

I read where there was a Smurf village found in Patagonia from 240 B.C.

[@itsapittie]

I don't consider any of this conclusive proof but it is interesting and deserves further investigation.

[@rona657]

There have been many stories of this. Pictures of blond haired women in old paintings , and children today with blond hair in South American Indian tribes give credence to this story. And let's not forget about Atlantis in ruins in Mauritania. At the time ice was more prevalent in the hemispheres and the Atlantic Ocean passable.

[@malcolmjcullen]

Piffle.

[@jackcrassus168]

@@malcolmjcullenyou know that expression “a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing”? That’s all I can think of in this comment section. People drawing conclusions from speculative evidence.

[@futiousstyles3315]

Hocus

[@sciencefliestothemoon2305]

does not mean anything. There are some other mutations that cause blond hair. Pacific islanders have one of them.

[@rona657]

@@sciencefliestothemoon2305 The blond hair of Pacific Islanders lasts only through childhood. The blond hair of those on the west coast of South America is permanent and is pictured on walls. Women with blond hair were highly valued.

[@mathieughanem]

Appreciate the numerous comments about the Romans which were great seafaring people too but we are talking about the Phoenicians people originally from the Levant (actual Lebanon) here. They preceded the Romans as a civilisation and had mastered complex boating and navigation technology as early as the Bronze Age or when Rome (and the Greeks) as an empire did not exist yet.

[@rtchow3000]

i just caught the gleam of the rock engraves the picture of the 7 candle stand. it wouldn't surprise me this engraving was inscribed way before the world wide flood when the single land mass existed 4000-5000 BC. one can see the 7 candle stand at 14.29 mark.

[@suegreene1]

You find similar decorations and paintings and ceramics between the Amazonian Peruvian actual indigenous as Shipibos, Cunibos and others.

[@capndad]

Years ago I read a book by the writer Arthur C. Clark that dealt with scuba diving in Sri Lanka (then known as Ceylon) with his friend Bob Mars. He spoke of Mars doing a preliminary survey of the sunken Jamaican city of Port Royal, which sunk because of an earthquake. However, his most intriguing story was that Bob Mars had discovered a Roman shipwreck of the Coast of Brazil. He applied to the Brazilian government for a permit to excavate the wreck but was denied. Instead, the Brazilian navy buried the site with a mountain of sand, putting it out of reach. The officials told Mars that Columbus discovered America and that was that. This documentary lends credence to that story.

[@johnedwards3621]

Celts believed the only true learning came from travel. That's what they did. They crossed the Alantic to New foundland and continued to explore down the coast, but they eventually discovered ship works (toredeos) that made their ships unseaworthy -- making it very difficult to return. They may have reconstructed new ships that stuck to freshwater rivers. The Mandans were a tribe that had Eurpoean featurres and DNA. A good account of how some Indians (actually in the Phillipines) dealt with strangers. William Danphier: Pirate of exquiste Mind. -- It describes how a age people had no difficulty conquering an enemy with tall ships, steel, and gunpowder.

[@user-qb8yr4vb4u]

"What we know is a drop, and what we don't know is an ocean" Isaac Newton

[@airborneranger-ret]

"People from the old world reached Peru" - seriously? Nothing written about it?

[@futiousstyles3315]

Another people who may actually have had a degree of Carthaginian ancestry were the “Guanches” of the Canary Islands off North Africa. Their ancestry was mostly of preIslamic ancient berber decent, but very little is known about them otherwise as they had been isolated for millennium. Apparently each island was so isolated from the next that each community barely knew of the others existence. They however had goats, ceramics, mummified their dead, knew some farming, and kept huge bull mastiffs as guard dogs, but at the same time they didnt make boats!.. Unfortunately they mostly went extinct or got assimilated when the Spanish arrived in the 1400’s.. Most likely not the case, but perhaps the Canaries were originally settled as a Phoenician or Roman penal colony or something.. 🤷‍♂️

[@lightningboltpt]

canaries are the first colonies

[@lshtar777]

26:12 "They even buried the dead... in their houses." So they aren't tombs? They are just people buried in their houses? Perhaps, just maybe, they were in their homes, buried while they were alive... by a flood of mud? Maybe???

[@pamelahomeyer748]

Looks like some of those flowers in Egypt or India the circle within a circle within a circle looks like Atlantis

[@SnatchUWU]

A very basic symbol even the swastika was recreated again and again around the world

[@mrbroccoli7395]

An interesting hypothesis, but as yet extremely thin evidence. I'd have thought blond and red head was more associated with Scandinavians.

[@mathieughanem]

Blond and red hair or the original Aryan people came from actual Iran/Afghanistan area which migrated to the Levant with time (actual Lebanon) through Mesopotamia. Phoenician artefacts are full of Aryan symbols, they were Semitic people which consisted of both fair hair and darker traits characteristics. Some of these fair head people also migrated towards the Hindus and further, while also migrating north as nomadic tribes through central Asia and Russia…

[@danielclayton7524]

I see from the comments everyone on you tube is an Acheiologist now. Just yesterday they were Tesla investment advisors 😅

[@A_name_is_a_name]

Speculative comments and opinions aren’t allowed?

[@jameslewis1605]

Good for you. I'm glad.

[@elijahhodges4405]

Carthage came a long time after people began crossing the Atlantic.

[@paulbork7647]

Thanks for an interesting video. Slings are the adult weapon, sling shots are children’s toys. Slings store energy for their projectile in rotational momentum, while sling shots store energy in rubber bands like a flat bow. Wrong term used here.

[@Talnaus]

They found a welsh grave along a tributary of the Mississippi river from the 1200's

[@virgiljjacas1229]

Follow the Parana to it's deeper part and find the answer. But long before that, the entire area were the location of clusters if cities from a very long time line.

[@bsaneil]

A very interesting hypothesis which unfortunately is almost entirely speculative and based on a few pieces of very tenuous evidence. Many of the 'similarities' between Mediterranean and South American artifacts and buildings is either very superficial, or relates to very basic structures such as round houses and defensive walls, where little variation is possible. When a few clay tablets written in Punic script turn up, or more artifacts of undeniable Mediterranean origin, maybe the hypothesis can be developed. Most of the Archaeologists here make statements about the artifacts and structures in their local context, going as far as saying, for example, that Peruvian structures are similar to Amazonian ones. But few of them categorically say that any of this supports the hypothesis posited by the actual documentary. As it stands, I'm afraid this has more than just a whiff of Graham Hancock about it...

[@domenicozagari2443]

The Romans found and colonized the towns in the Baltic (Baltic from the Roman bell, white) sea, they all got Latin names, Latya, Lithuania. Pinimundi, Riga and others.

[@joestankus8495]

Incorrect, its from the lithuanian world baltas for white

[@domenicozagari2443]

Lithuania was an Roman Colony, the word baltas comes from the Roman word.@@joestankus8495

[@TraditionalAnglican]

37:00 - Grave Robbers are no better than poachers!

[@lablackzed]

10/10 👍👍👍

[@TheLosrodri]

Interesting video with a tantalizingly intriguing hypothesis but which devolved into a patchwork, cherry-picked fracas of pseudoarcheology that got lost in its obsession with connecting dots without sufficiently exploring the context surrounding those data points.

[@anthonyburke5656]

You all know the old saying “The only thing that separates civilised men from savages is 5 meals”

[@chantlive24]

Thanks

[@MS-yw6rs]

Carthages aren't romans. They where a remaining part of the Phoenician Empire that existed before the Greeks.

[@lancegauthier489]

The Carthaginians had a written language. Is there any evidence of Punic writing anywhere in South America?

[@johnwilson1094]

Thor Heyerdahl, in his book "the Maldive Mystery" mentions red haired people in the Indus valley coastal area.

[@rodneyloder2863]

Zheng He visited both North and South America in the 15 th. Century AD. Gavin Menzies - The year China discovered the World.

[@ohdude6643]

Nationalist propaganda

[@ivanmanolo7273]

100% Cierto. Europeos llegaron a la Sudamérica antes que Pizarro españoles o portugueses. Busquen los libros: La Geografía Secreta de América, El Imperio VIKINGO de TIWANAKU, los Drakkares en el Amazonas, EL Rey blanco del Paraguay, etc.

[@jamespierce-tg7we]

I get it if a ship got lost or blown of course. A colony thou doesn't make sense because there are no old world food crops in south America.

[@VictoriaQuitane]

Maybe they intermarried with the inhabitants of SA and lived happily ever after.

[@rickyodom1201]

your out dte on your info they found a lost city in middle of amazon thae has that lidar is changing and finding things we never could before

[@leemarlin9415]

Peru was conquered by the Spanish. The Spanish at that time had recently expelled North Africans from Spanish. Note I said North Africans. Carthage was in North Africa. Do you think maybe some Spaniard picked up a souvenir from a former North African owner. Who had kept it because it was from Carthage. He took it to Peru with him. End of story.

[@TraditionalAnglican]

That takes even more conjectures and assumptions, and is far more complicated, than in this video. Okham’s Razor says to accept the least complicated explanation that explains the available facts. Add that to the Cocaine found in Egyptian mummies from 3500 years ago and the Spaniards’ description of fait-skinned blond warmers attacking them on the Amazon River, and the fact the Spaniards never made it to Kuelap… The only thing I think they got wrong was this being their first trip to South America

[@KenSoHappyClegg]

Do you have any shows on this topic a little more recent than 2014. Tons of breakthroughs in tracking ancient DNA in current populations have occured in the past ten years. This show is scientifically outdated badly

[@geoffreytotton1983]

There was an article in the 1963 popular mechanics magazine

[@danhnguyen-fn9eb]

NOOOOOO! There's a possibility that while Roman ships were rowing around Roman England that a few might of gotten caught up in storms. And when that happens all kinds of strange things happen at sea. Otherwise Roman ships or ships of Carthage rarely left the Mediterranean Sea. There was that little thing of falling off the edge of the world that many of them believed.

[@dt6152]

Not to mention the trireme was not an open ocean vessel, which is why when they did go outside the Pillars of Hercules, they stayed near the coast.

[@LordDeRuush]

Lol people in smaller boats sail the Atlantic today.

[@ohdude6643]

@@LordDeRuush With carbon fiber materials -- not roman boats.

[@kankikankkinen2670]

No did, maps had 3 land masses, africa europe and asia,

[@johnsagar1152]

CHILL BABY

[@ianlowcock6913]

I see the spirit and lying traditions of Erich von Daniken still continue.

[@MrRabiddogg]

The Aztec Capital at the time of Cortez' arrival looked an awful lot like Atlantis as described by Plato/Solon not to mention the harbor at Carthage. If they made it to Mexico, they could have made it to Peru

[@rickyodom1201]

that think found that city off west coast of Florida in the gulf no facts yet have been releasted

[@rickyodom1201]

or they were all ready here nephi people

[@normanbraslow7902]

The biggest problem with this theory is that the ships were NOT sufficiently seaworthy to cross the Atlantic. They just wern 't.

[@jondoealoe]

Alan Bombard crossed the Atlantic in a rubber life raft. Hans Lindenman crossed it in a Klepper folding kayak once and a row boat the second time. Ed Gillet took a kayak from Monterey, California to Maui. Alberto Torriega sailed a 15' dugout canoe from Ecuador to the Philippines, and he did most of the trip without a compass.

[@blueocean2510]

They had the ability to build suitable vessels, the Veneti Gauls had seagoing vessels.

[@sambassil7825]

They’re crossing the ocean solo in a 28 feet sailing boat. Pacific Islanders sailed the Pacific Ocean too.

[@juergenernst1320]

It's 4000 km from the marquesas to Hawaii. And that journey happened with "sea-unworthy" Polynesian boats much longer ago.

[@Joanna-il2ur]

Carthage sent ships down the west coast of Africa as Hanno the explorer wrote. The Periplus of Red Sea in Roman times describes peoples as far south as Mozambique. The Romans traded regularly with India, especially the south, but did go up the Bay of Bengal. They got as Far East as the ‘Golden Chersonese’, which is Malaya. The problem reaching India was the difficulty crossing the Indian Ocean, due to prevailing winds. Herodotus reports that Carthaginians circumnavigated Africa, and saw different stars.

[@frankedgar6694]

Or, or, or, perhaps these cultures, as so many others, developed completely independently of each other. Maybe, just maybe a later European brought that ax head with him and lost or traded it? Explain trepanations performed around the world and thousands of years apart. Did your Carthaginians teach them too?

[@user-fl8yv7rz6f]

The biggest concern is that you think it was the Roman empire that defeated Carthage, it wasn't. It was the Roman Republic that defeated Carthage. If you didn't even do enough research to discover that the Republic defeated Carthage then whatever you've cobbled together in this video is most likely nonsense.

[@lightningboltpt]

yes but views is views

[@phantompanther648]

Ireland ( Hibernia- Banba ) Remained a mercenary hide out .,…. for Vikings . There are old texts , of Icelanders which don’t mention “ England” but do mention lreland.. The Royal procession of Tara ( Where the kings were crowned ) most likely goes back to Denmark & and lands north. The pomp of the royal ( British ) ceremony likely came from Ireland . If you fly over Ireland you dont see many “ Square quilt land plots “ but the delineations of boundaries kept by poem.

[@AbleLawrence]

Why should cultural advances have to come from elsewhere, unless you can show gene flow

[@doreekaplan2589]

TODAY there are 70000 slaves in Africa

[@christineabercrombie7316]

How about from indiana to minnestoa inverted question mark.

[@EllieMaes-Grandad]

Carthage didn't 'disappear' - they were crushed by Rome.

[@johnwilson1094]

Fort Orange in the seventeenth Century? The early Dutch explorers?

[@gfwithrow]

Why don't they take DNA sample of Cecilia for testing? Ah! So the did. 15%.

[@Enyavar1]

The cathaginians also colonized Australia and traded with China. (As much as they reached Peru!)

[@suegreene1]

The oldest human finds were in Lauricocha, where the Amazonas river is born

[@edgarcuevas2551]

Everyone should know that some of the Inca Indian as well as the Andean Indian , the ones that have a hat like Mexican Shakespeare El Chavo del 8, are descendants of Roman prisoners getting layed by Ancient Inca Indian women and occasionally Ancient Andean Indian women. I Know it sounds strange, but Native American descendants who are part Caucasian are the only reason why when Argentina came along with more Italian , Spaniards, and Germans only ended up intermingleing with these Italic Mestizo Indians who only gave them Caucasian offspring Just like those incoming Argentinians

[@AntiQris]

Tell me more I’m on your track too from my extensive genealogy work. It’s so plain to see through family branching and polyglot attempts.

[@commodoor6549]

And somehow the genetics of modern indigenous people of South America don't reflect that. You people just think you can make up facts.

[@Ferns-e5t]

Could you provide more information on Italics mestizos in America?

[@commodoor6549]

@@Ferns-e5t I completely missed that. But I think he's referring to indigenous people that always _leaned forward_ .

[@jimschiltz5343]

Excellent video

[@alecbrown66]

You have to be logical with things like this. However, most ancient powerful civilisations in the world were primarily sea farmers unlike us land based people. The vikings beat the Spanish to North America by easilly 500yrs. And Carthage was truly international, though sadly at that point between written and oral history. But sea faring peoples were very aware of both Mediterranean and Atlantic major currents from Iceland to Africa, so it's entirely possible the carthaginians, who were on a par if not better than the Greeks and Romans, did trade if not settle in South America 1000yrs before the Spanish. Unfortunately sea travel means damp, mould, and storms, and south America humid, so documents, timber and ferrous metals can only take us this far back

[@TheGreenmangrove]

the subtitles are very poor

[@isanewday]

Try Protosumerians.