FROM THE ARCHIVES | Stall/Spin Classic Facts and Myths (1982)

[@GlensHangar]

So glad that as a Canadian pilot spin training was part of getting my license, and that practicing spin recovery is recommended as part of currency / recency.

[@dermick]

Seems like not much has changed in 40 years! It's fun to watch these old videos. I hope that airfield is still there.

[@SoloRenegade]

there are stall and spin training videos from WW2. What is there to change? the physics hasn't changed.

[@rinzler9775]

Yep - laws of physics haven't changed.

[@timrobinson6573]

I would jump out immediately with a parachute and film myself on my IPhone with a selfie stick. Then hike to crash site and recover my Go-Pro cameras from the aircraft and post it on KZbin. Then I'd be a Trillionaire because it's 1982 and I would be the only person with that technology.

[@wildgoose419]

I wonder what KZbin would look like on monochrome monitors.

[@wellingtonsantos7826]

Greetings from Brazil!AOPA IS THE BEST!!

[@rafacosta_x_]

Br sempre em todos os lugares kkkkk

[@SantiagoAndresT]

What an incredible video! It’s amazing thanks for sharing this! It’s rarely to find old good videos like this one! I’ll use it to teach my students! ✈️✈️

[@kristensorensen2219]

#78👍😤This is a killer in the traffic pattern!! Stall spin training is very important!! Regardless what the FAA requires for training. ERAU 80 CFIA&I ret.

[@anthonyrstrawbridge]

♥️ Thank you for posting this comment. If I remember correctly at least one very qualified test pilot entered an unrecoverable spin in the Piper Tomahawk.

[@edcew8236]

There's a big difference between teaching upright spins at altitude from a straight and level entry and turning entry spins down low...

[@antoniobranch]

"This safety film had a retro 70's appearance and 60's music. It was great."

[@Flying_Snakes]

Love these old vids.

[@akd9096]

Watching from Ethiopia and loved it. Thanks for sharing

[@AirSafetyInstitute]

Thanks for watching

[@BoilerMonkey]

Groovy. Nothings changed...airplanes fly the same 40 years ago as they do today. In fact, could they send me some parts from 1982, my aircraft needs them ;-)

[@rinzler9775]

The old Tomahawk - the very aircraft I learnt spin training in. I still remeber the manual and it stating that the Tomahawk will not recover unless correct inputs are done (some planes stop spinning if you let go of controls).

[@josiahdaniels2499]

This is awesome😄

[@tieoneon5240]

non pilot>> this was another fantastic video from this channel thanks

[@edwardrichardson5567]

Timeless Information for every Airman..

[@alexandersheppard1997]

You mean airperson. Airman is sexist.

[@edwardrichardson5567]

@@alexandersheppard1997 that was some woke joke or something?

[@jonasbaine3538]

@@alexandersheppard1997 🤣 AIRMAN! They making guys softer everyday with those gender debates lol. good luck...

[@jannepeltonen2036]

That early 1980s esthetic :D And a Tomahawk! I learned to fly in one! Sadly, never got around to spinning it, our club was in financial trouble and sold it.

[@anthonyrstrawbridge]

Lovely looking trainer. If I remember correctly there was a higher quality (Similar) version made by a second ( different) company.

[@milesmalone4186]

@@anthonyrstrawbridge Beechcraft Skipper. Never flew one, but there were some in the circuit back when I was learning to fly in a tomahawk

[@karlneiders3874]

I also learned in Tomahawk. Piper had an amazing training program with extensive training videos study guides etc. really thorough and fun.

[@grayrabbit2211]

I wish all CFIs would do what one of mine did to me before solo - do slow flight, cover stalls, practice stalls... Then when the student isn't suspecting it, kick the aircraft into a full on spin and yell "your plane!!" There's a huge difference between talking about spins and suddenly finding yourself in one. You won't forget it and will be much quicker to detect and correct before it ever happens. We kept practicing this until recovering became automatic

[@edcew8236]

Terrorizing the student doesn't work for most people. Yes, I'm a CFII.

[@coreyandnathanielchartier3749]

Most stall/spins a green pilot experiences are in the low altitude/pattern regimes. Not recoverable in most cases. Aerobatic training by a aerobic pilot is best for teaching spin recoveries. Most primary flight schools already pay outrageous insurance premiums. I hope your CFI didn't demonstrate this to you on a downwind leg......

[@MikeM4729]

I graduated from HS this year.

[@pi.actual]

Interesting that they chose to demonstrate spins in a Tomahawk after pointing out that they are prohibited in that aircraft.

[@pacadet]

The POH they showed indicates that spins are allowed in the utility category. I don’t know what plane that placard was in. The Traumahawk was definitely approved for spins, that’s where most of its notoriety came from - people used to flying Cessnas that damn near auto-recover during spins ended up killings themselves in the much more aggressive, spin-happy Traumahawk.

[@alexandermyrthue1987]

A professional Simulator setup with expensive equipment from VirtualFly is actually a cheap learning platform if you think about the money you spen if you onley take real instructions in an actual airplane.

[@johnfitzpatrick2469]

Can we play it backwards? 📽️

[@colinwallace5286]

It makes me wonder why you would even allow the certification of a design that can’t withstand a spin, intentional or otherwise, given the likelihood one might occur.

[@milesmalone4186]

There's no shortage of certified aircraft that are only certified because of devices that literally stop the pilot doing anything that *might* cause a spin (or even a stall) though. On the lighter (depending on your definition of lighter of course, still way more aircraft than I'll ever fly) end, the PC12 was refused certification by the FAA till it had stick pushers et all

[@colinwallace5286]

@@milesmalone4186 That’s the same as putting airbags and better seatbelts in a car that has terrible brakes and steering…then again, that’s what they did in a lot of cases, so I guess it’s human nature.

[@anthonyrstrawbridge]

Was that a trauma hawk 02:29 ?

[@tomstulc9143]

Yes an excellent 2 seater. Just need more advanced practice to exit the spin cycle.

[@anthonyrstrawbridge]

@@tomstulc9143 In the USA the FAA may have prohibited at some point in time or required spins prohibited placards. My take here is that the incipient spin should be caught and arrested early; that may be to imply that entering a spin can sometimes be unrecoverable. The term flat spin comes to mind. The other nearly identical airplane similar to the Piper Tomahawk was said to be slightly heavier with greater forward cg but I wasn't ever able to check and verify it.

[@stevephla]

Who is the narrator?

[@AirSafetyInstitute]

Surprisingly, the name of the narrator is never given.

[@stevephla]

@@AirSafetyInstitute It's one of those voices that is so familiar. Probably did a ton of voice work back in the day.

[@SoloRenegade]

there are stall and spin training videos from WW2. What is there to change? the physics hasn't changed.

[@wildgoose419]

Have you noticed people used to speak better? All those subtle stresses, pauses, and slightly prolonged pronunciations help make an impression. No stalls--, no spin.

[@classicalroach]

What this was just produced in 82, why the quality so low bruh. You keep it in a shoebox in your mom’s garage or wut