Classic Vanilla WoW Professions Overview/Guide: Engineering

[@Frostadamus]

Hey guys, tried to make this video shorter by removing some gadgets that i thought we're not that important. If it ends being to long for your taste, check the timestamps in the description.

[@Gozh_Man]

Your videos are never too long, Frost.

[@Hvemlol]

15-30 seems like the sweet spot

[@danforbes4513]

longer the better i loved the video were you did a bit of wow lore before the main video :)

[@davoodoo2180]

You misses a big money maker...the mechanical Yeti!

[@Sonja_TV]

@@Gozh_Man that's what she said 😂😂😂

[@Ginson17]

Some useful things to add to this: 1) The discombobulator ray. It will dismount the target which is great to stop a fleeing player. On top of that it's one of the few engineering items that can be used by non engineers which is great. 2) The flash bomb. It's an instant grenade that fears beasts. Great for WSG. Stops the enemy druid in his tracks while he tries to run your flag. Like with the ray, this item can be used by non engineers. The schematic can be found from a quest in the badlands. 3) The fishing lure that gives +100 to fishing is a most have for anyone that tries to fish. On of the best fishing spots is located at the Bays of Storm in Azshara. To fish there you need 425 in fishing which makes the engineering lure pretty much necessary. If you have this market for yourself you might make a bit of gold from the lures. 4) The catseye googles. They increase your stealth detection. Great for a quick equip-swap to fish the enemy rogue or druid out of stealth. 5) The acanite dragonling and the harvest reaper kit. Both can be used together with the battle chicken to summon more pets to further increase your raid dps. Only works if there is no major AoE that would kill your pets instantly. Great for min/maxing. Other than that, great video as always. Stay frosty =)

[@Frostadamus]

I wanted to add the discombobulator ray dismount tip and the dragonling not sharing cooldown with the battle chicken. But I was trying to make the video shorter :)

[@Sonja_TV]

You could write some of our scripts 😁

[@uwsoulman]

@@Frostadamus Target Dummy's. They're great. Like a Feign Death for non-hunters. Drop one and run the hell away.

[@robbiedolan340]

I can't tell if your videos are helping me wait for classic or making it harder, haha. Great guide as always.

[@ninjalacoon]

The best part about waiting for Classic has been witnessing the rise of so many great new youtube channels dedicated to the game. Frost your hard work is appreciated! Thanks man.

[@grimwark]

Frost, I love these classic wow videos! I can't wait to stick with you as we move towards classic wow.

[@PyroChimp75]

Only if I had this wealth of info back in the day! great vid and looking forward to classic! Also, 11:20 - don't pop your chute to early if the teleporter malfunctions else the time for the chute runs out before you hit the ground and you still die! let your toon fall for a few seconds and THEN open the parachute cloak!

[@PeanutButterGamer]

Still trying to decide my main professions and these detailed videos really help. Appreciate all the effort that goes into them. Cheers!

[@Frostadamus]

Thanks PeanutButterGamer, I think it's easier to decide on professions if you first decide on your class. Also it depends if you plan to play classic wow casual or hardcore, as some professions require lots of time investment in order to make them profitable or you just wont have enough recipes to help your friends.

[@Evilpricetag]

For a few classes Engineering can dramatically make them pretty OP in pvp, especially Goblin Engineering giving stun locks for already stun heavy classes/specs. It's combat heavy, and overall you can't use most of the things in this profession unless your in it, unlike enchanting where you can buy the enchantment if needed to maximize your build. Another thing is you can go with two none gathering professions, but your going to have a lot of work to do to make it worthwhile.

[@vitdanek7506]

YES! Another awesome video just in time for sunday afternoon chill! Cheers Frost!

[@Skulkesyk]

Love all the hard work you're putting into these videos frost! thank you!

[@Frostadamus]

Me and Sonia, she deverves credit also: cutting all these items from websites, making thumbnails and editing the video and music. I'm responsible with footage, script and voiceover :P

[@Sonja_TV]

@@Frostadamus Thank you babe for crediting me 😘 People who've been here for a wile, and on the streams know already that I'm the official CARER here 😋😂😂

[@Skulkesyk]

@@Sonja_TV i was not aware im rather new here! But your both doing an amazing job!

[@Sonja_TV]

@@Skulkesyk well, thank you and welcome 😊

[@JoeNovacks]

Hey Frost Novack is here !amazing video once again !

[@pawn4129]

Ahhhh, another reason to stop doing Sunday chores and watch a Frost-video!

[@Frostadamus]

what Sunday chores? Are you trolling?

[@pawn4129]

@@Frostadamus Alright, alright... you got me... I'm a neckbeard with no life :D

[@ghoulunathics]

"World Enlarger" damn i just love the sense of humour the devs had=D

[@Gruggo]

I changed my mind after this video, i'm going engineering in classic. I've been engineer on retail since vanilla, but this looks much more fun than it is today in retail.

[@MiekSr]

Loving this relaxing WoW Classic series.

[@MT-zb7eg]

another Stellar video Frost keep it up

[@LoopeRtron]

Another nice video frost, gnome rouge in t1 look so nice

[@chimpzorz]

as far as i can remember the death ray worked by taking a random percentage of your max hp then dealing 1.5x or 2x the damage you took, i remember low self damage = low hit, and high self damage = high hit. as for the shrink ray it did effect bosses and the hit box size as i remember using it on raggy, made him tiny and no melee could hit him thus our raid leader ban the use of it ;D

[@warmspell7562]

These videos have made me more excited for Classic. Thank you. Great videos and editing. This guide is quite comprehensive.

[@Frostadamus]

thanks Nathan, It feels like classic will never come! :E

[@Havre_Chithra]

If anyone is going to be a ret pally, I highly recommend goblin engineering. The extra stuns from explosives gives your judgement extra damage. It's so OP.

[@Mason_____]

Been watching your videos since my unforgettable time on Nost. Your channel is gonna explode this summer!! I’ll be sending all my new guildies your way ;)

[@Frostadamus]

Sounds good Mason :D

[@danforbes4513]

frost ye channel will blow up soon as classic comes keep up the good work even tho you don't have the subs you should have. great video yet again big like from me. :)

[@Sonja_TV]

❤

[@ludvighansson2171]

You blow me away every single time Frost!

[@Sonja_TV]

❤

[@traqaz]

I fucking LOVE your videos man!! One of the few "classic content creators" that actually know what they say and deliver in such awesome fashion!

[@willichtenstein7071]

I remember the days of lvling in duskwood and hearing the chat being spammed with "Looking for a Bronze Tube" and "WTB bronze tube".

[@randomnetsurfer]

I love your sense of humour! Thank you for these videos. You make me excited to try Classic!

[@steca1375]

Gnomish Mind Control Cap is a must have for solo capping Relief Hut in AV Horde base (when it doesn't fail and controls you :) ) Green Lens can randomly get a +28 Nature Resistance making it a bis for AQ's Princess Huhuran On PServ Goblin Rocket Boots exploded very very often...

[@nightquest52]

You forgot Fireworks! You can get great looking firework recipie from golblin on beach in Feralas.

[@lordpeimei]

you doing a very good job whit those video frost.

[@Ras548]

Great video, Keep it up. Now I'm back to zero regarding classic. At the Alche video I thought I go healing priest with Alche and herb for the most overall benefits. Now I'm thinking a healing priest or a holy pala with enge would also be a ton of fun. Awh those decisions.... at least I know that I won't go smithing anymore, was always broke during vanilla and bc because of the epics for warriors 😀

[@Frostadamus]

I'm going to get gathering skills on my main, maybe. At least for first 2 months. Then I might swap one skill to engi. I'll make 2 + alts to level 35 and learn 2 crafting professions, maybe LW + Alchemy, depends on what gathering skills will have on main. Making choices in classic is so hard!

[@Ras548]

I will do the same as back in the day gathering (mining and herb) until lv 45 to affort mount and skills and then swap to a mayor profession. Level a mage to lv 60 afterwards for aoe grinding and a bankalt with enchanting. If I go priest also think of doing tailor before for the epic chest (depending if I don't find a raiding guild), but then... think I will wait until its time.

[@Frostadamus]

The Truefaith robe is just to OP man.

[@popthesmoker5143]

Nearly 100 likes and 0 dislikes, the video speaks for itself!

[@cosm.i.n]

Over 200 likes and not a single dislike. This shows how much of a respectful youtuber Frost is.

[@Frostadamus]

:O

[@zm0rc]

Great video! Learned a lot, and I'm a 2004 WoW player :D

[@22lilacsky]

Lots of great info you are putting out, thank you.

[@zelden666]

Just a couple of corrections: Shrink Ray could be used on Bosses... and could also backfire. What a fun Chrommagus attempt that was. Gnomish Net Launcher is perfect for Paladins, as the backfire can be dispelled with blessing of freedom, and one of the backfire variants charges you to the target and nets both of you - acting like a warrior charge. Great video!

[@neindanke1427]

jumper cable as a hunter was pretty cool when u see the raid is wiping just feign death pick up a priest and save minutes

[@fuggipt1]

You could even play the only Combat Res not owned by druids with this trick as FD would put you ooc in mid boss fight. Did that several times in vanilla

[@michael.knight]

Just thought it was funny some of your other videos have kinda clickbaity thumbnails, but your videos are pretty much the extreme opposite of that, thorough, detailed, and very helpful. Good content.

[@Frostadamus]

Sonia is making the thumbnails and editing the videos. She tries to make them "clickable" but at the same time we don't want to lie the viewers, it's complicated (:

[@michael.knight]

@@Frostadamus I'd say it's still on the good side of clickable. It makes sense anyway when you have to compete with all these other videos with flashy thumbnails.

[@Sonja_TV]

@@michael.knight so, are my thumbnails clickable? What should I do/not do, in the future, in your opinion?

[@michael.knight]

@@Sonja_TV They look good I think, actually in rechecking it, I think they only one that felt a bit clickbait is the one with Mobs with EXPENSIVE Loot. The thumbnail for this video is really nice.

[@MrExade]

I remember using goblin cables 2 ress folks when wiped as hunter I could just feign death, ressing whole raids sometimes hehe and they could repair with the Repair bot, very fun proffesion, also very deadly for pvp when i used it at lvl 6o and 70, the you could use the stuff in arenas! rocket boost boots and net etc!´ + I wont forget the mind control device, so I could use it just as priest used mind control and jumped ppls chracters into lava and stuff hahaha! memories

[@Frostadamus]

As a hunter I think you benefit more from engineering than other classes. I allows you to do a better job keeping people outside of your dead zone.

[@MrExade]

@@Frostadamus Indeed!

[@Sl4yer951]

I should stop snoring *[Arcane Dust]* I can see flying people from 10:39 to 10:52

[@88Spint]

Shrink ray. Had that on my first ever raid. It was in Kara and i was under geared and a total noob. Final boss. We struggled a bit. 1 wipe. 2. The third try we can hear the frustration start taking it's toll, we don't have enough dps to get him down before he enrages. I was a Rogue and as such I spend most of the fights in black and white due to me being bad at running away and not knowing the fight. But this time it looked better. We were focused, the hp ticked down faster then before, we were gonna make it! Then a dps died from a mistake. It's ok, we got this! A healer somehow dies, instant CR! I'm alive for the dps phase, It's go time! I popp everything but I no longer have the haste potion I bought with my last gold. I had used them up on our first tries, only to die right away. Then I remember, I have my trinket! I had used it before while clearing mobs on the way here, it was a huge help and seeing everyone grow big was awesome! I can see it infront of me, I use it and everyone grows large and get a big damage buff, hailing ME as a hero of the raid! I locate the trinket on my bar, move my mouse over it just as we all rush towards the boss after he aoe'd us away. I use it! ZAP!!! EVERYONE IS NOW ....tiny. -dps to everyone. Im shocked. and so are the rest. I can't help myself but to start laughing. I die. We wipe. We tried it some more before giving up and that's the one and only time I really raided in wow... good times xD

[@Shizuka965]

Very nice video, its really helping me to make my way in vanilla :p

[@Heartscream91]

Very good and informative video! Thanks!

[@Lurchlee]

high quality video right here, awesome job

[@TheTruth-nt5fp]

Great video amazing guide the length was perfect I subbed and hit the bell and like keep them coming

[@drace2032]

Such a great job mate. Keep it up :)

[@Evilpricetag]

I remember the day they removed a bunch of "junk loot" Making several Engineering schematics impossible to build, instead of fixing the requirements the items were simply removed.

[@Gruovy]

ty for this good guide. Phase 3 sod actually :D

[@dominicprior9844]

Such a nice video! Many thanks!

[@Shamd439]

I look forwards to your videos!!

[@adamwoodworth5758]

One of the most mysterious class to me, explained wonderfully. I just might have to try this with a rouge...Oh the insanity.

[@o0TraceuR0o]

shadow reflector works on magic dust from the dust devils in westfall just a tip there

[@nassiissan]

goblin vs gnome engineering for alliance hunter?

[@bombchus]

I love The Gnome in the background hammering in reverse :D

[@jaym5602]

Hey, one thing early on and thru out most of the time you can make the aquamatic fish attractor. People forget this one due to most people don't fish. But if you want to make gold with the winter squid you need the increase fishing. I find I can sell it if I control the market which I usually do by making it in mass quantities. The mats are about two hours to farm to make 180 and people sell the nightcrawlers on the AH sometimes cheaper than you can buy them. I have found even in vanilla days up to TBC that they sell for about 5-12 silver each. It is no flask recipe but since you can make it very early it adds up.

[@Frostadamus]

I knew about this, wonder why I forgot to add it :E

[@arjbamse]

There's a quest in Desolace that requires an Advanced Target Dummy as well.

[@Frostadamus]

lol, I don't remeber that quest. Need to look it up.

[@ostarion26]

Nice vid dude 👍

[@myv112]

Keep it up dude you're getting famous :D this is your time !

[@Frostadamus]

Hi mom! I'm on youtube! :D

[@Krowges]

1)Is the +15 engineering from gnomes important? 2)Is there any class or race that benefit more from engineering?

[@calebwinfield1403]

The boost from gnomes doesn't really help that much. You can go engineering with any race. I have it on my undead mage.

[@tylersiniard2953]

The +15 does help with the combat pets you can make since they lvl based on engi skill

[@dariusz4434]

Hello there! You forget to mention Lil' Smoky a non-combat pet. It is a BoP item and only craftable as a Gnomish engineer. If you want to max out BoP items, don't forget to craft it! See ya!

[@Frostadamus]

oh wow, people still watch this video.

[@MichaelFredericksonREALTOR]

Arcanite dragonling, if I remember correctly you made a dragonling upgraded to mithril dragonling and then upgraded that to arcanite dragonling. Don't remember how useful, but very fun

[@linnenbach123]

Is there a way to go from gnome to goblin without loosing your dropped Schematics?

[@General12th]

Engineering might not give you the most money, but it'll definitely give you utility! I'm told MTs should go engineering. I guess I'll do the same.

[@Frostadamus]

I guess engineering can help you with the grenades on aoe tanking.

[@MrFacesmasher]

You are so productive :)

[@s0llem]

"Get good at begging" haha, noting to level that up alongside my engineering.

[@Vhailor_Mithras]

I remember using the Discombobulator Ray on the elite Ogres in Alterac. Confused the hell out of my party members when we suddenly were fighting Leper Gnomes.

[@pave3883]

Would you recommend training engineering during leveling or at level 60 and go with two gathering professions?

[@Ant12468]

More fun to train while leveling, as long as you loot and vendor all drops and keep your bags clear you should be able to afford a mount at lv40

[@michaelwendler3142]

what are the items to craft as gnomish engineer before switching to goblin? just googles, battle chick and death ray?

[@elbuchacoskrapavy8327]

what should i take for pvp? gnomish or goblin?

[@notafortnitegamer]

goblin

[@PaweLiczek]

lets start watching :D Edit: Low quality video because of its length? Or only i have 360p max quality?

[@Frostadamus]

KZbin takes a wile to process it when it's longer

[@PaweLiczek]

@@Frostadamus yeah now its ok :D

[@Sotanath86q]

that scope is so juicy for hunters... 3% hit from an attachment is crazy good

[@Frostadamus]

depends, not sure on this but think 7 damage scope might be better :E

[@matthewburroughs9597]

Ammo missed, big plus for Hunters.

[@Frostadamus]

true :E

[@Avrelivs_Gold]

this is exactly why when i first played I picked engineering lol

[@Frostadamus]

I played hunter in vanilla but used to buy my arrows from Alterac valley rep.

[@_Foehammer]

Does anyone know whether or not WoW Classic will have oldschool profession progression, ie reaching a certain skill level and then having to travel to find a particular npc that can teach you the next rank? I always liked that and I can't remember if they changed that prior to 1.12 or after.

[@Frostadamus]

Normally at lvl 35 and 200 + skill you have to find NPC's around the world that teach you artisan. For example: Enchanting artisan has to be learned in Uldaman :D

[@Frostadamus]

and some profession you require to do quest chains.

[@_Foehammer]

@@Frostadamus Yeah that's what I meant. My question was, will this be in wow classic you think? I hope so :)

[@Frostadamus]

@@_Foehammer they will surely be :D

[@_Foehammer]

@@Frostadamus Great, thanks for the reply. Can't wait for classic

[@indoraptor12345]

So do you always have the mind-control helmet on, or do you leave it in your bag ready to be equipped when it's necessary?

[@zodica2300]

Goblin jumper Cables XL Is Goblin engineering making but can be used for both and the Large Seaforium Charges does not work on Locked chested :/ But i really love your videos! keep them up

[@allispi3394]

Hey frost, do you play in bloodsail bucaneers RP server?

[@Havak37]

So Gadgetzan has like three dungeons there so maybe more important to have teleport to? as horde which teleport is more important?

[@Zivhayr]

Great video. On the subject of re-leveling the profession to get both Gnomish and Goblin, I'm considering leveling each on seperate characters instead. Tallying up the pros and cons though. On my Gnomish engineer the main things I'd be missing out on be construction helmet, goblin bomb dispenser, mining helmet and the ability to reload my mortar, right? How big of a deal do you think these are? My goblin engineer could make the rest for my gnomish engineer to use, I believe.

[@BadBomb555]

Something I would like to ask tho, when you get yourself gnome engineering's renewal gift lil' smoky schematic, should you learn it after you have changed to goblin engineering since it doesn't seem to be require gnomish engineer to lear and use it?

[@scrubnmuhtub]

This is incredible production value. Well done. Any tips for someone who wants to take up video production as a hobby?

[@Frostadamus]

Sure, pick something that you're passionate about. First videos won't be great, check my first videos on this channel. But eventually practice and studying about video editing will increase your production value/quality. Start with something simple, glue a couple of footage together and add music or voiceover.

[@Sonja_TV]

Yeah. Don't gear up to more than you need. In the beginning it can be overwhelming if you use the most complex camera, or mic, or editing software. Start with basic, once you master that, and you feel you want to do more than what your gear can produce than move gradually to better equipment. And it goes the same with the production, start simple and remember: less is actually more!

[@scrubnmuhtub]

@Frostadamus @@Sonja_TV Thanks!

[@azbatuk]

Can a druid use engineering items/gadgets in cat/bear form or will the druid have to go to caster form to use them and then shapeshift back to cat/bear ?

[@michaelsotomayor5001]

so.. why is ranged goblin?? If a warrior does not have great AOE dps or maybe specs as tank, the AOE dps goblin items would be GREAT for that melee class. I would think for a mage that can AOE grind it wouldn't need goblin for stuns.. since mages already do so much CC. but hey if anyone see's something I don't please help me out In any case I think it all doesn't matter since what you mentioned going Gnomish build all items then switch and stay Goblin makes sense.

[@Jubnar]

Are you supposed to buy all the Gnomish Recipes and learn them before you learn Goblin? I heard you can do Gnomish or Goblin quest then unlearn and re learn engineering and you will have everything still there?

[@Fropxy]

thx for video!)) before i decide to swap gnomish school into goblin this 5 items (2:40) are the only one bop? I mean i need to craft only this 5 items and then i can drop the school?

[@steca1375]

You won't be able to use Transporter to Gadgetzan and world enlarger after droping Gnomish so no need to craft them (if you drop Gnomish immediatly after crafting Chicken and deathray, that can still be used when reached the correct level in Goblin as they are BoP but don not require Gnomish to use)

[@Fropxy]

@@steca1375 thx

[@johnnyc.8256]

Where do you go to pick gnomish or goblin engineering?

[@rhuanhuman]

Wheres the intro song from?

[@Avrelivs_Gold]

i loved Engineering because i am an engineer IRL. but the game directors ruined it since BC... it's all is about DPS now. and the most amazing thing - the Vanilla team made whole this load of COOL professions in 3-4 years! just 300 skill but so much great content and now it's just so frustrating to see it became irrelevant...

[@Frostadamus]

I know exactly what you mean. All the work and thought that was put into vanilla, just to be ruined by next generation :E

[@Havak37]

Say I grind gnomish engineering and make all the gnomish only stuff, then drop engineering and relearn it all the way up as goblin. Do I loose any recipies learned the first time? Like should I keep rare engineering paterns and learn them only the second time up? or recipies stay with my character no matter how many times I change professions?

[@markxv2267]

Lol

[@rigfar91]

as ive written in past videos. ive been tanking since the very start. i dont like to have random pugs take the responsibility in dungeons nor do i trust my guildies to tank bosses in raids. but hey i would also like to be the dmg dealer. probably going druid or warrior or paladin.

[@Frostadamus]

as a DPS you have less control in dungeons and raids. Maybe main a tank and play a dps alt :D

[@rigfar91]

@@Frostadamus yeah i should go the extra mile to have two characters up to speed. one tank a damage dealer d=^)

[@mpbluewolf]

Will rocket boots be in WoW vanilla 2019, weren't they were added after 1.12?

[@wow_legends6294]

tnx for great explanation it will be useful

[@tsmitty0090]

Thank you very much very helpful!

[@dafnwvs97]

Love the scripted vids keep it up Frost!

[@Mcbuggler]

You say you can drop engineering and swap specialty? I tried to do that on Kronos. I could not do it, it would automatically assign the one I previously had (gnomish). Are you sure you can do that?

[@Frostadamus]

It should be possible. We might have to try that if a classic beta goes live. Kronos is still a private server. Might be buggy.

[@ektora]

Frost what are you going to play? Class, race, type of Server and where? USA?

[@Frostadamus]

ektora, I'm not sure yet. One thing is for sure, I'm going to play EU, because on NA the ping would be unbearable. Gonna release later today or tomorrow a clip where I give more info.

[@markclark4986]

You could not use Gnomish engineering items after you switch to Goblin, or vice versa. Gnomish/Goblin items required not only a base eng skill but also skill in either field of eng. I know, I was an engineer way back in 2004!

[@Frostadamus]

Well, You cannot use Ultrasafe Stranspoter gadgetzan and World enlarger Because they have a requirement on them. But for example Gnomish death ray you can use it even if you drop engineering. and all other gadgets you can use.

[@markclark4986]

@@Frostadamus Yes you can use SOME of the items that had Gnomish or Goblin names, but they were not field specific. Only those learned from the specific field trainers cannot be used by the other field. If you look at some of the items on this video even, you will see they read "requires Gnomish or Goblin engineering."

[@VictusPrime]

Is there a minimum character level requirement to max out engineering?

[@Adroyo]

35

[@Blekk1989]

Much appreciated,thank you!

[@seanrenon747]

I'm thinking of going engineering, would it be better to get skinning/mining to start - and then swap to engineering once I get to 60?

[@Katharating]

Yes, definitely! imo it is always the best option to use two collecting professions while leveling.

[@CaptmagiKono]

Engineering is the best WoW profession.

[@1sniper1wolf1]

Hi frost, do shadow reflectors reflect AOE spells like Psychic Scream?

[@Frostadamus]

Hi Christopher, Pretty much, yea :D

[@joris7359]

Nice vid! :3

[@lucaswood7602]

So if I get 300 gnomish and craft all the gnomish exclusive stuff, I can drop it, get 300 goblin and have all of the benefits of goblin and gnomish engineering? So two teleporters?

[@Frostadamus]

No. You won't be able to use the Gadgetzan teleporter and World Enlarger, as these 2 gadgets have written on them "requires gnomish engineering" But I guess they're not that important.

[@lucaswood7602]

@@Frostadamus thanks a lot, awesome