Frostbite 2017 WINNERS TOP 32 - CLG | VoiD (Sheik) vs tsu (Lucario)

[@Pur3AGL]

I think this matchup is very frustrating for both Sheik and Lucario. Lucario gets tossed around half the game and literally can't even get a move out because of how slow he is, but Sheik keeps trying to kill and realizes she's only making Lucario more dangerous as she's beating him all around the stage.

[@julioarcaiko]

This tournament was stupid packed! Top 32 looking like top 8

[@BlackineseKing]

I need Tsu to win it all or reach top 8 for all of the few lucario mains.

[@mexicanmuslim]

Lucario needs a nerf

[@druizcardenas312]

Of course he does, look at all the top 16 placings he's got over the past 2 years...

[@Driff97]

Got second place. Cheers to Tsu

[@TheVP_SSBU]

BlackineseKing You got your wish with 2nd place.

[@Motofreakz]

Ronnie Nguyen thanks for spoiling the entire tournament.

[@reppy8094]

aura sphere is tsu per affective

[@yumichicaroxs]

his smile tho at the end

[@nightmare-ln7ov]

cool dude

[@ShadowJ_09]

My favorite player against my main's best player... This was a really amazing set

[@kingdomhearts9714]

yeah

[@TheVP_SSBU]

MasterShadow Grand Finals was an even better set(s)

[@ShadowJ_09]

I know. My heart couldn't take it

[@2supermaro]

MasterShadow lol it was so tense even i felt it

[@rohanix8953]

MasterShadow Which one was which? Lol

[@sizzle9000]

17:45

[@ClintonChelak]

I love it. Lucario is changing meta and making heavy hitters viable. We're about to get rock paper scissors up in here.

[@jmm00702]

zero going falcon against lucario was hype af, falcon is one of lucarios hardest mu's and zero knew this, to the point he picked him even if he hadnt ever before picked him up in competitive so far into the tournament

[@superpower48]

no its not even close.

[@natepearson9804]

lol Back in the day when ZeRo thought he was the best Falcon.

[@jrnoobzero]

Sudden decent Lucario appears and some ppl ask for nerf. But no one ask for claws long lasting hit boxes to get patched......ooh yea this is smash4......

[@axel7801]

jrnoobzero I know right :/ says a lot about the community

[@2supermaro]

jrnoobzero he's the best lucario in the world, or in japan at least. way better than "decent".

[@menaxd7124]

jrnoobzero if lucario is 200 percent is it fair for the other character to be at kill percentage at 30%?

[@csimmons2807]

I swear he only hit void like twelve times in game 1

[@itscoolthough419]

For real i noticed that shit too lmao

[@YacubCubby13579ZR]

Peace, Love, and Positivity I counted the hits. It was 11 hits the first stock, 5 hits the 2nd stock.

[@csimmons2807]

*****​ Damn, 16 hits 😂? Void took the loss like a champ though

[@Johnny-Badhair]

Five hits... wow

[@heyman6412]

Its 16, i counted it

[@kaqkaw8838]

I would be on suicide watch after that first match lol.

[@dreadfury2485]

I firmly believe this is Sheik's worst matchup without question. Sheik has a hard time getting kills on the character that gets double dips with Aura and Rage to kill from 50 with a good combo. Lucario just wins this onstage.

[@alexwoodward390]

you could say that about bowser too honestly though ryu is her worst

[@Wertyxl]

Im a lucario main and i never thought lucario loses to shiek,i tell you this cloud,bowser,dedede are bad match ups for me the rest is totally fine,even ness, lucas and villager are fine because im not those noob auro sphere throwing lucario anyways

[@paulmiller9333]

As a sheik main who has played this MU regularly Kuro vs lewdcario. We both agree that the MU is determined by who gets the first stock and it's decently close. (off da record, fuck lewcario)

[@seth7514]

You forgot about Ryu. Ryu stomps Sheik.

[@EJJTheMiner]

Ryu Sheik is even

[@BigDeepz]

Spoiler: Game 1, VoiD's second stock = uthrow, uair, uthrow, bair, force palm, death

[@BigDeepz]

Pablo J fixed it! Thanks!

[@はりいも]

17:45 good smile

[@comettitun8087]

i new the day would come a top sheik would lose to a lucario

[@Simikins]

Like last weekend when Mr. R also lost to Tsu? :p

[@bandie8224]

Simikins He rises

[@Simikins]

I dieses

[@valos507]

Looks like I'm picking up a new pocket for Links worst match up

[@Simikins]

>:(

[@biscuitman5388]

Does Tsu have no support option to travel tourneys in the USA anymore? I haven't seen him in a while :(

[@philswiftreligioussect9619]

What is more satisfying? Killing Sheik at 40% with a 100% disadvantageous lead? Or JV3'ing Bayonetta?

[@z1novas]

When Lucario is at a high percentage does his damage double through rage and aura? Or does it combine as one to stop him from being overpowered?

[@z1novas]

Whoa! Never mind xD

[@2supermaro]

ZG yeah you realised lol

[@Wertyxl]

Aura only increases his damage,but as a consequences of getting dealt with high damage comes high knock back

[@2supermaro]

Wertyxl it increases knockback not just damage lol

[@Sunshine-eo2sp]

ZG at minimum aura which starts at 77%.. Lucarios damage and knock back have a .66% buff. At full aura at 180%.. Damage and knock back are 1.7 times stronger than before. If a move does 10% without aura, it'll do 17% with max aura, 13% with minimal aura.

[@BlackineseKing]

Yes, Let's Go TSU!!!!!!!!!!

[@imnothung]

Void could have gone fox, fox one of lucarios worst MU idk if he considered it or had no faith

[@두부-b9t]

zumbaman88 tsu has ryu tho

[@imnothung]

Forgot lol yeah most Japanese and even someAmerican lucarios have ryu's like I know motsunabe has him a secondary as well guess that covers all his bad mu's

[@Wertyxl]

As a lucario main,i never had trouble with fox,he's lighter than sheik and dies even quicker and isn't as fast and lagless as sheik, those noobs who spam and rely solely on aura spheres to win will lose badly to fox,ness,villager,Game&watch,and mario but i never had problem with any of those mentioned because i almost never shoot aura spheres to win,voids choice to stay with sheik was better because sheik still has better option in countering lucario than all of those repellers

[@imnothung]

Fox can easily 2 frame lucario's recovery with up-tilt , fox has semi consistant kill confirms and has auto cancels to minimize landing lag on shield. Anyway it's considered a hard match up by most lucarios along with Cloud and Ryu. Maybe you haven't played really good Foxs though

[@Wertyxl]

i haven't played larry lurr but i played alot of awesome fox players believe me getting constantly ledge trumped means that you weren't doing well anyways thus you keep getting hit off stagei will admitt ever since RACUS nerf, Lucario is sufering a little bit now from other characters including fox, shieks ledge trumping is way more superior though, i have a harder time getting ledge trumped from shiek then fox and i know how to DI from fox's Up tilt cancel to up smash, Fox would have been real strong if sakurai hasn't removed DACUS

[@shuu3034]

Tsu vs istudying who would win?

[@mo533]

17:32 BRO. Never heard the aura ball buzz til this stock... (0_0)?!

[@buttercup830]

Why do the commentators keep saying command grab. Neither sheik nor lucario has a command grab

[@jordanbwalt]

It hurts me that none of these Lucario players or players follow the 8 second aura rule. It also seems as though many announcers don't remember that stock leads affect his aura as well. After dying, if Lucario is down one stock, he has 8 seconds for his aura to build up from the stock disadvantage, so he should wait on the spawn platform. On the contrary, if Lucario just killed you and gains a stock lead, you should wait on the platform for as long as you can so his aura can decrease over 8 seconds.

[@ファファ-t4u]

KENさんがかんぜんに保護者なんだがww

[@breakfast6723]

"back throw??" *not even close to killing* "wonderful."

[@TD0150]

They called Lucario's backthrow "down throw" twice.

[@adriansamaniego7338]

Why does he throw the X up?

[@roykappa8148]

my heart! She's-a broken!

[@LasKerfuffle]

The aura is with Tsu

[@nightmare-ln7ov]

Awesome match

[@salva1622]

TSU

[@shanebarnet1311]

Lucario is my secondary and he has so many tools it blows my mind.. And Aura tho..

[@grantdong7746]

I don't want to be that person, but this match up is extremely unbalanced. It takes sheik forever to get a kill, and one good read with Lucario with aura and rage would kill so easily.

[@SendFoodz]

I know, I would love to see a hit counter. I watched void hit tsu with like 20 fairs and only did 30 dmg, lucario did up throw up air and did 43. oh well, void picked the char style he likes

[@jrnoobzero]

Shiek used to be too strong they nerf her and now it takes too much to kill. But Sheik was on finals most of the time before patch.

[@kaqkaw8838]

I think the nerfs were justified. Her fair was ridiculous, and the guaranteed down throw up air on an extremely combo heavy character was just overkill. But on topic of Lucario I find it disheartening to see all your work demolished by 2-3 moves from lucario.It's not a cool combo kill or anything its just raw hits. I like melee fox even tho he absurdly broken because he puts on a good show while getting the kill.

[@Wertyxl]

lucario was nerfed too i remember the Aura cancel into up smash was a confirm kill no way to DI out of it too, they patched it and now it almost never works anymore(that last game it was voids fault for running into that aura cancel into up smash), zero played kami with pre-nerfed sheik against pre-nerfed lucario, sheik lost so zero ended up using his diddy in tournament against kami

[@beezletrip6]

Grant the Dragon sheik only got nerfed because people kept bitching about her being op. void is so damn technical. he got robbed the moment sheik got nerfed. a huge handicap

[@would_you_kindly]

I assumed Lucario would be losing... I was wrong

[@damiyuhh8208]

don't snore-a on the aura :D

[@cullenhutchison6528]

First game Aura shenanigans

[@jorgfe7060]

This lucario is fucking BONKERS!

[@rohanix8953]

Lol the commentator thinks Lucario's back throw is down throw.

[@natepearson9804]

No, just an error, commentating is harder than you think and slip ups will happen.

[@ィハング]

ほんとルカリオ上手

[@elhadjbilaldiop4903]

Void should took fox and reflect aurasphere in his face

[@heresplitatom9945]

Mario would have been better, Fox would have died very early...

[@hirl0ve83]

つーさんイケメンすぎ

[@alexwoodward390]

bro...we get it...lucario is from pokemon

[@vegetatheveggie2547]

Alex Woodward Agreed

[@stephentimirchand9127]

"THAT BACKAIR" lmaooo

[@fuchsi5039]

is it just me or is there no racism when lads are playing smash together ?

[@박주형-g1f]

Crasy comeback by tsu in game 1

[@juanito6012]

Can somebody give Void a fade. Jesus Christ

[@boad.monkey5548]

Tsu is so cute ❤❤

[@natepearson9804]

Until you notice his yellow ass teeth.

[@pulim-v]

Nice back air

[@benbenpotato]

5:14

[@jacobsebastian6714]

Tsu is so handsome but looks a bit tired

[@MarkPd-h1p]

He’s just Asian

[@ethanthefaboolas5695]

Lol he said Mewtwo was the best Pokemon.

[@globalgamer119]

5:30 More like, The TSU is on the other foot! Heh, Heh heh.....

[@kile5502]

If Chinese played console games we'd all be fucked

[@zentrum9042]

Hell, Sheik is annoying.

[@Pandosyanna]

Especially if you're a Zelda main

[@keenanseable5736]

boo

[@Antonioiturbides]

Tsu is really fun to watch but I still hate the stupid aura passive. Super unfair mechanic in my opinion. Even a mediocre player can get lucky.

[@vegetatheveggie2547]

Antonio Iturbides If its so unfair why isnt it being abused by plauers everywhere, he must have other negatives that balance it out :^

[@Antonioiturbides]

+Vegeta the Veggie Lucario is a pain to use. However being able to live that long and then getting to kill people at 20%. That's pretty crazy to me. If lucario was a terrible character I wouldn't care but he is a pretty good character.

[@vegetatheveggie2547]

Antonio Iturbides I never said he was bad, but he does have set backs that allow him to get away with having a good passive without being deemed broken

[@jawbreakerHxC]

Antonio Iturbides Lucario would be a terrible character without Aura. Aura is the only thing that makes him a pretty good character. plus I hardly see anyone complain about Ryu killing sheik at 50% or Dk

[@Antonioiturbides]

Fair enough. I just don't like the gimmick is all. In retrospect I think I commented because of how broken Tsu makes Lucario look. So I guess shout out to Tsu for that lol.