Frostbite 2020 SSBU Losers Top 24 - PG | Marss (ZSS) Vs GW | Zackray (Joker) Ultimate Singles

[@venomyami9197]

i still cant comprehend that this is supposed to be losers top 24. so many upsets and mindblowing plays. this years frostbite is insane

[@陳嘉宇-y4q]

Prodigy , Pam , Toast challenging the elite 4 , rise of Void , Elegant , Zackray , what a run it is And it’s not yet over !!

[@DekkarJr]

Just like in sports - great top ranked professionals and champions being consistently at the top for a while produces a division of players climbing the ranks all the while practicing to beat them. Same think happens in the UFC when a division has a top tier few fighters constantly at the top - they get so much focus and prestige that everyone is automatically training themselves to face them eventually.

[@vick7868]

@@陳嘉宇-y4q then fucking Tea vs MKLeo happened... I swear this was the most hype Smash tournament ever, bar none.

[@d.danger4335]

And prodigy for defeating MKleo, Tea and Wrath also made top 8

[@d.danger4335]

陳嘉宇 whos Pam

[@izakbhere8079]

why zackray got 3 mains. He dont got mains, he got a squad.

[@jaykam5926]

IzakBHere bro I honestly feel like Zackray could main any character he wants, like he’s that good

[@ggc4183]

Y’all can follow his KZbin channel. He practiced with a lot of characters

[@harminh7648]

@@ggc4183 I wish that I could read the comments there though

[@danclark6584]

Good matchups are important and he has insane fundamentals so he can do that. Seriously people talk about tiers when they should talk about matchups...

[@megachris2610]

Tweek the same way

[@dovahllin798]

I cannot believe this is top 24 losers bracket

[@sircusa]

Interesting to see such a difference between Marss vs Leo and Marss vs Zackray when they're both using Joker. Must be because Japanese players are so used to Zero Suit players as it's pretty noticeable when Zackray reacts so well to the flip kicks.

[@ggc4183]

sircusa this is a fair point. In the set where Marss was upset by Paseriman, it’s so clear that Paseriman read most of zss moves and made on point reactions. I’m really thinking this is a Japan thing.

[@icebear6757]

Yeah iirc japan thinks pretty highly of ZSS

[@themange59]

Zackary plays a bit more aggro, which is probably why he SDs so much more, but also why he does better vs Mars. Mars might also have been off his game, lots of factors play into it

[@againsthate6041]

What i noticed when comparing this set and leo vs marss in genesis is that Zackray challenged marss offstage alot.

[@bringbringish]

Aggro? He shields a lot since ZSS can't do barely anyhting shields.

[@gilbertoperalta2172]

15:32 one punch man

[@juuzos6016]

17:40 that mkleo and samsora cameo LMAO

[@fish_in_distress]

Zackray is so hype, can't even imagine how he'll play in a couple more years

[@Amphanotes]

Agreed, i'm rooting for this kid you can tell it means a lot to him

[@pouks]

how is spamming strong options hype

[@lmao2302]

@@pouks What do you want everyone to have weak options and run away the entire time????

[@MakimaDog]

why does everyone call him a kid? he’s 18 lol

[@mugiwara7116]

@@MakimaDog his vibe feels pretty innocent tbh and he is younger compared to the other top players. I feel like he can get even better too by playing in America more often (post Covid)

[@Roy-vn4gs]

17:37 i love how you just see mkleo in the back chillin lol

[@russellmidgley8465]

How on earth are there this many top players in losers

[@harrisonsmith6914]

Ikr, the upsets have been unreal this tournament

[@scottthehawt8278]

Russell Midgley there*

[@russellmidgley8465]

@@scottthehawt8278 Thanks

[@rileysinclair5980]

Zackray is such an emotional player that I can't help but root for him

[@なな-s7g2b]

ザクさんは操作ミスしてもクールで感情の起伏がほとんど無かったから2本取られてもその場に流されずにしっかり3本目取って勝つことが出来たんやな。プレイも上手いけどこの2人のワイプからも勉強になる所あるな

[@thelordoftheweebs9501]

Congrats to zack. He's defeated tweek and now marss. All that's left is samsora and leo.

[@EduardoC]

The Lord of The Weebs you forgot that he defeated nairo

[@EduardoC]

And maister

[@EduardoC]

The Lord of The Weebs and dabuz

[@EduardoC]

And he’s defeated Marss before

[@mkz6258]

@@EduardoC he beat nairo

[@teannlku130]

しゅーとんが完全に保護者に見える笑

[@武神まっつん]

ザクレイとしゅーとんの仲の良さがわかる。

[@ryanphoenix2460]

10:55 Zachray messed up a reverse Up B and inputed side B costing him his stock. Super unfortunate.

[@ryanphoenix2460]

14:05 He either tried to drift to ledge but was stuck in lag or he weirdly missed landing on stage resulting in another SD.

[@areallymeanperson]

Man, i felt that, i do that a few times and it hurts

[@tobzster7953]

Wait why would he need to reverse the up b wasnt he facing the ledge while recovering?

[@gabrielvillasenor6665]

the fact that Marss hugged shows how good of a Person He actually is though.

[@Atomicwaffle50]

Shuddup ppl hug all the time after sets

[@redfieldwong717]

Oh wow because no one does that😑

[@gabrielvillasenor6665]

@@Atomicwaffle50 I had a bad image of Marss at the time of this comment; Sorry.

[@gabrielvillasenor6665]

@@redfieldwong717 hada bad image of Marrs at the time of this comment Sorry.

[@kaito9836]

4:02 Marss madd

[@firewall5189]

tbf id be pissed too if that happened to me lol mostly impressed and humbled, but also pissed

[@Exorcist_ali248]

@@firewall5189 that whole clip came as a product of joker nair which is a move marss doesn't like

[@niers4060]

Marrs must be dying inside for all the Joker players who fight everytime

[@elliottroose4194]

Yo, that DAir, Down Smash stock 2 from Zack was NICE

[@umpvp2435]

Shits on him for 2 games, throws the other 2, almost got reverse 3 stocked on the last match. Super weird set.

[@fairytail9910]

12:55〜　just my favorite scene👍

[@RainWasTaken]

Zackray SD’d three times that set and still won.

[@tdawg490]

To be fair marss basically SDd by going for that back throw flip kick in game 5 😂

[@bit4869]

5:10 ここの拒否ほんとザクレイって感じ

[@パワー型おにぎり]

操作精度おばけ

[@infinitejay5659]

If that's the pop off when he beats marss, then he gonna be running LAPS when he beats Leo

[@cormeaga]

About that...

[@infinitejay5659]

@@cormeaga I know lol I meant in the future, did you not see when I posted this

[@cormeaga]

@@infinitejay5659 you may not have seen that video at the time of posting that comment. This is a reasonable assumption considering this video was posted before that match and you could be watching things in order.

[@koro3350]

Marss actually throwing with that back throw flipkick in game 5 lmao

[@ミミカス-v9p]

試合後すぐにしゅーとんさんのとこ行ってるやん。仲良いなぁ

[@mitchy9963]

ミミカス ザクレイくんのそういう所可愛いらしくていいですよね〜

[@ニシキタヒガシ]

2ゲーム目のラストストックの復帰ルート整えてカウンターのやつオンラインで使えたらめっちゃ強そう

[@マグナムz]

黒いハト そもそも崖ガンからのカウンター結構ハマりますよね！

[@donkylefernandez4680]

Zackray has multiple Stands for each character he plays

[@janswhatsupdoc]

Holy Jesus Zackray really scaring me there with those SDs! So glad he still won tho!

[@jc-pi9lf]

What seeding led to two top 10 players facing losers 24th

[@grrikisimo7215]

No seeding was involved It was these two guys losing to lower seeds earlier in the tourney

[@griffindale5386]

Grrikísimo yeah mars lost to prodigy earlier and zackray lost to void

[@aidenwhiting5131]

@@griffindale5386 marss lost to the Japanese fox guy I forget his name

[@H-kun-bc6ox]

@@aidenwhiting5131 the fox was paseriman

[@sharsasuke01]

Marss used up all his chakra at Genesis. He still hasn't recharged yet.

[@hi3209YT]

That boi opened up the 7th Gate at Genesis. Played out of his mind.

[@通知オフ-l5i]

この頃のスマブラ輝いてる

[@eisenhead]

Watched this live rooting for marss but seing zackrays face at the end I’m so happy for him

[@ggc4183]

eisenhead and then when he lost to Leo. My heart was broken.

[@wybernananba8834]

Was he crying?

[@user-vw2tx5sb5u]

同じ日本人としてザクレイが勝って嬉しい

[@moistnapkin1512]

It made me sad when I saw the title of this because both people are way better than top 24 imo

[@ggc4183]

Moist Napkin then you’ll be surprised how early Leo vs Darkwizzy, Samsora vs gluto and Samsora vs Leo happened

[@brysonbagley3755]

Zackray my favorite smash player bro he’s so wholesome!

[@OMGlvl86turtlepilot]

untl he loses and throws a fit

[@Amphanotes]

@@OMGlvl86turtlepilot True he needs to learn to take L's better, but i get why he reacts that way sometimes you can see it means a lot to him

[@silvesta5027]

Zss vs Joker is so so difficult for Zss. Idk how Marss does so well

[@Esperanza-u7t]

After watching genesis7 GF, here Marss plays really bad. But he awoke from game3. But back throw flip kick ruined his momentum.

[@Kくん-o7o]

4:39どういう意図で下スマをうったのかこの時の脳みそを見てみたい。 姿勢避け狙いだったらもう人間だとは思わない。そりゃマーズもそのリアクションするわ

[@superaffection6096]

zackrayかっこいいなぁ...

[@LeafysHere]

3:56 emotional damage

[@natecatt2539]

“The old scorpion... get over here” ily hazmatt

[@Minami1317]

Zackray is phenomenal not matter what even with the nerf on Joker.

[@tomg3920]

Guys at 15:49 how is Marss facing right side when he Zair ? I'm pretty sure he was facing left when he jumped.

[@kirklandthoman1169]

whenever you get hit, you face the player that hit you. Zackray's uair turned him around.

[@justnobody6064]

Does zackray practice harder for squad strike than singles?

[@rosaparks6479]

Amazing set

[@Swift640]

4:39 me too Marss

[@brentynprice79]

@10:06 Why does EVERYONE say ZSS has a good grab? High Risk High Reward? She gets nothing from her grabs anymore. No guaranteed combos like mario. Her down grab was nerfed from smash 4 so she can't do her up air air chains after it anymore. luigi has the same distance grab except it's faster and gives him way more options. So stop saying stuff like that before she gets a big nerf AGAIN

[@miko-mn9bg]

i hope she gets nerfed into the ground :)

[@Liezuli]

Zackray had Marss playing like a wifi player game 1

[@赤坂サブ]

ザクレイさんってleoと戦う時なんでジョーカー使わないんやろか

[@ああ改]

mkleoのジョーカーが圧倒的に強くて勝てないことを知ってるからやろ mkleoのジョーカーとは動きが明らかに違う

[@赤坂サブ]

@@ああ改 なるほど

[@foxhound4976]

あとmkleo自身がジョーカー使っててキャラの強みが通りにくくなる

[@user-bknyo2m7cf]

赤坂サブ なんか配信でミラー苦手とか言ってた気がする。あと単純にジョーカーで世界一とってる人にジョーカー出すメンタルの人はこの世におらんと思うww

[@ビンラ]

単純にleoがロボ対策甘いからロボ出してるって言ってた。leoがロボ対策してきたらジョーカーだすらしい

[@bruhm0ment6000]

Woah looking cool zackray

[@あさ-n1t8l]

途中から操作ミスおおい？

[@jammylusho]

So, samsora has a twin brother? beacause the guy in marss player camera next to the green hair girl look exactly like him :| (there is a MKleo vs Samsora at the same time on the other side of the stage)

[@KelpyG.]

Im pretty sure that is samsora

[@jammylusho]

@@KelpyG. Yeah, that´s what i thoght... but at the same time of the Marss vs Zackray there is a MKleo Vs Samsora on the other side of the stage :|

[@流川-n1i]

4:37 この下スマはクレイジー

[@田邉喜子]

よんでますね、、

[@seijagraze9884]

なまもの 振り得な気もする。

[@penebob1183]

I assume you're talking about the wave dash. I don't speak that language.

[@musicdev]

No hate to Marss or anything, but like, wtf was that first game? It almost looks like Marss thinks he’s playing MkLeo’s Joker

[@christiansanchez7448]

Idk why in the 3rd match theyre saying zackray SD'd/ talking about how he went all in off stage, marss got a lucky footstool when trying to avoid his back air lol

[@vijaychirumamilla9656]

He misinputed, which caused him to SD. If you watch the clip again, you'll see Zackray throw out a Side B way below the stage. That was likely meant to be an Up B, causing him to plummet to his death

[@timtimmejiqs]

Let’s go zack!!! Told my friend yesterday he would be marss

[@shrimppasta4345]

He got smashed on by Leo

[@timtimmejiqs]

@@shrimppasta4345 ngl his face after he lost was so disheartening, but your right.

[@shrimppasta4345]

@@timtimmejiqs he’s young tho and almost beat him. I know his emotions were high but he’ll learn from it

[@shagunbhalla3914]

One mistake cost marss, I was so mad. But well marss will bounce back next tournment. And if he just gets his mentality better he could be the best like leo

[@ggc4183]

He needs more mu knowledge against jp players. He was so confident against Paseriman probably thinking he took care of light no problem everytime so another fox wouldn’t be an issue but the insane upset happened. I really hope he can start learning every player and zss mu thoroughly and by then he may be invincible.

[@shagunbhalla3914]

George Cai I am sure that this is the first time that other than evo marss missed top 8 lol. I’m sure if he could get a better mentality he can be so good. He was so mad and I think that is a big reason zackray won. He was lost but yeah he needs to learn playing against Japan. Maybe going to some Japan A teirs and S teirs he could win stuff and get tons of practice.

[@zsoliddanys1083]

Marss with a strong mentality is OP, he had a strong ass mentality in G7 and he demolished everyone, including Leo. He also needs to switch up his gameplan from time to time, going full agro is not going to work all the time. Also, he has missed several top8s, this isnt the first time, its rare tho.

[@shagunbhalla3914]

ZSolid DanyS I am talking about super major top 8s. It is very rare

[@zsoliddanys1083]

@@shagunbhalla3914 EVO19, Frostbite 19, Lets make big moves and im sure im missing a few others.

[@Ozi_i]

途中までMKLeoと思ってた

[@なな-s7g2b]

それは盛ってる

[@6293-u6w]

@@なな-s7g2b プレイヤー名の話やろ 知らんけど

[@TheAmericanDeagle]

So glad Zackray got his composure back after thos SDs, he is def getting stronger mentally.

[@zsoliddanys1083]

To be fair...Marss SD too in that last game.

[@miguelc2164]

What was up with that did they say?

[@Nitro1396]

ZSolid DanyS The set would’ve ended way earlier if Zackray didn’t sd compared to Marss’ sd

[@zsoliddanys1083]

@@Nitro1396 Yes, and he started playing better than Zackray after that 1st SD, he threw away that last game pretty bad, didnt even tried to capitalize on Zack's mistakes but eh, both players played way below their usual levels.

[@boredom1300]

@@zsoliddanys1083 stfu you salty fan

[@LeeJayBird21]

Zackray taking some notes from Esam I see.

[@SoraDestiny471]

Zack's joker is less mobile than leo's joker but much higher hit rate

[@chordalharmony]

Zackary doesn’t move as much as other top players in certain MU’s. There are times when he just won’t move at all for a solid 5 seconds. Watch his set vs light at Big house

[@yemoochy9553]

15:32 changed every that was a game winning play for zackray good shyt

[@ぺちひろ]

空前1段のヒット確認人間ちゃうやん

[@nagayu2244]

やっぱmarss日本人に弱い傾向あるな　evo はにえとのさんワリオにやられ他の大会でコメさんに負けたりtさんに負けたり今回はぱせりまんさんとザクレイさんにやられてるし日本人がいない大会ではleo 倒して優勝してるし

[@clarea1614]

NAGA Yu marss自身も今シーズン日本人にだけ負けてるし遠征行くか〜みたいなことを言ってましたし対戦回数的な要因があるんですかね？

[@spica9140]

プレイに人柄って出ると思ってて、その日本人が主に出すプレイングに弱いんだと思う。 勝手な推測だけど。

[@pondeco4238]

いや、普通に日本にゼロサム上位勢が多くて経験豊富だからってのもある

[@user-lo8kt7ff8g]

pon Deco それあるなﾌﾑ((¯ω¯*))ﾌﾑ

[@スシ-j2c]

しきークロちょこと言うmarssレベルのゼロサム使いがいるからなあ

[@tokiwaaya777]

4:02 代パン

[@CristianFlores-wz8rc]

Damn, Marss so inconsistent. Wins a major, then goes out top 24

[@Shark_rooster]

Check the people in the losers bracket. You'll realise why.

[@superal68]

I think it says more about the level of competition of Frostbite than about Marss’ consistency tbh, it’s not like he went out top 24 at a local

[@zsoliddanys1083]

@@superal68 Still, G7 was bigger and he did MUCH better.

[@zsoliddanys1083]

Yeah well he has always been like that, maybe its a frostbite thing, he got 17th last year too.

[@DekkarJr]

He was tilted as hell durng thiis toruney. He lets out big sigs a lot on caamera when he loses stocks and games and stuff- frequent noticibible repetetive sighing is a consistent symptom of a someone who might be a long term experience of depression.it's a way to cope with the emotional pain by oxygenating distract you while your wounds start healing. I can tell you for a fact that I sighed out loud constantly, in front of people - could be a call for help - really he jut needs to find some passion with some other good characters. he shoulda t least be familiarienough with a handful to mix upo the matchuip to try and throw joker offf - which is why he should ahve counter picked a dangerousz zoner like samus or ROB I also dont get why Marss dont abuse the shit ouf downward air contal;ty tp ge dda,age ;amd o til tehy g et learned out and countered I Ai

[@lmao2302]

How to beat Marss. Don't let him win game one.

[@あああああ-v5z]

ザクレイってゲーム音聞いてないの？

[@なな-s7g2b]

普通にモニターから出てる音で聴いてるっぽいのかな。他の選手もしてる時としてない時あるね

[@Muppet567]

And melee players say ultimate takes no skill...

[@kouji2282]

killed mars at 0% wow

[@proximusunus4174]

Zackray is a better joker just by the simple fact he ledge guards way better then MKLeo

[@MM-gb3sv]

you can't possibly say he's a better joker than Leo but I agree that he's better at fighting ZSS

[@mmd77777]

Why THE FUCK did he go for backthrow down b Oh lord

[@yemoochy9553]

Good ass Comeback from Marss though he could have easily stole that

[@Contrary22]

One of the Whitest dudes I've ever seen in my life rocking the tag "Caramel" He's funny. I'll give him that. 🤣

[@たろ-e5z]

結果3-2だけど立ち回りはザクレイが圧倒してるな

[@たろ-e5z]

半年ぶりに見たけどこの試合のザクレイ全てが完璧で草

[@erickcruz4134]

Imagine mkleo celebrating the same way as zackray did this time with marss... 100% sure he would cry and stop playing proffessional smash

[@lmao2302]

????

[@erickcruz4134]

@@lmao2302 ???

[@randompickle5522]

Mars ain't the same after they nurfed zero suit mk leo took grandfinal even though they nurfed joker let that sink in mkleo all day

[@DekkarJr]

she's too light weight wise to function in her current brawler like state with very few true combos, you are essentailly just fishing for ways to get in and start a jugle and with her small attack hitboxes, reliance on a few well known setups to get a confirm kill are all well documented among the public about both f these characters

[@lmao2302]

Bruh the nerfs weren't shit. And no Mars isn't carried.

[@edwinelmejor08]

They only nerfed her bury and Marss did not even use that in his fight against MKLeo. If anything, Joker is still a broken, cheap, easy to use character while ZSS takes precision and timing to be good.

[@mmmmgood7318]

Marrs is carried by zss glad zackray eliminated him

[@mmmmgood7318]

@@edwinelmejor08 what place did marrs get?

[@clydencook6416]

A lot of these Frostbite 2020 vids keep acting like Joker was nerfed significantly. I mean... It wasn't THAT significant.

[@alvareo92]

yeah only the gun hitbox reduction is noticeable

[@mmmmgood7318]

It actually was arsene meter runs out far more faster so it's easier to camp and the gun to Edgard is more inconsistent which is important for joker

[@delbreezybaby]

Mars with the rage @ 4:00 lol.

[@zackary__s]

Chris D not funny didn’t laugh

[@delbreezybaby]

@@zackary__s Lol well I did, soo...?

[@zsoliddanys1083]

K

[@MrPavarok]

What a set.

[@いんちょー-v2d]

marss相手に3タテはやばい

[@mmmmgood7318]

Commentators thinking being biased towards marrs is going to make him win lol

[@fl6rence]

Why was marss playing so bad first couple games?

[@alexr.2037]

00:45 He wanted to say zero

[@DekkarJr]

I wish I could play like mars. I love zero suit - she can be so powerful but you have to be so precise, I love the character but man I wish she weighed more. like joker is jsut as fast as she is but he ways like 90+ ish - buff lucario's weight as well would go a long way to fixing

[@flamingoflyer8009]

Honestly should have been a 3-0 lol.

[@MAEVELOVE1]

Zachray had an advantage offstage

[@SirButterlegs]

that SD lost him the entire set

[@Klausi]

Nobody will read this comment, it's been so long but at 17:50 it's kinda adorable how zackray is coming up to marss all the way with open arms and marss gives him a big brother hug because he knows zackray gets emotional xD

[@lbmybblb7993]

this should have been called "mistakes" the match

[@マレウス-x9q]

ザクレイキレキレやな

[@おーり-q8o]

最高

[@fakename6498]

Marss can't beat japanese players

[@fullysemiautomatic5618]

They got the zss matchup on lock

[@zsoliddanys1083]

@@fullysemiautomatic5618 and yet, Zss players get good results in japan...he needs to play a lot more defensive.

[@alvareo92]

@@zsoliddanys1083 yeah homie needs to watch some Japanese ZSS pro players

[@zsoliddanys1083]

@@alvareo92 Preach.

[@zsoliddanys1083]

Both of them played like trash but man, Marss threw away that last game.

[@niftygage]

ザクしゅーてぇてぇ

[@DavidRamirez-vc8dr]

People be like: leo makes joker look broken. Joker IS broken

[@RipeBanana2]

Gg

[@kelvinkinyanjui3545]

Zss BrOkeN

[@CA-rg2wv]

He really died at 0 wow

[@Alibaba-id1cs]

CJ 10 no jump, no flip kick, hit. Yeah he’s dead. Doesn’t matter who Zackray used