Frostpunk: The Board Game | Kickstarter Playthrough | With Mike

[@OneStopCoopShop]

0:00 - Introduction 1:44 - Set-Up 10:07 - Day 1 (with Action Rules) 26:44 - Day 2 36:51 - Day 3 42:22 - Day 4 47:14 - Day 5 51:53 - Day 6 55:06 - Day 7

Man you explain the game with so much simplicity, even if the game looks difficult to master, I love it. Thanks and take care.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

@ thanks so much! I do my best :)

[@ZubLord]

This is the best playthough i've seen for this, really good!

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Thank you!

[@jeramydavin4061]

I just backed the deluxe version, the game mat, and the resources expansion! I can't wait to be try being an awful dictator or a benevolent leader and seeing the outcomes! This video game me a much better grasp on the mechanics and general feel, good job. I really love the aesthetic and setting of the game. As a Minnesotan, this game is going to be so fun to play when we have our -50 degree days!

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Hahaha, will playing it make you feel WARMER, or COLDER? That's the main question :)

[@Gutock]

My one and only concern is that it looks like a solo game turned into a co-op. I get it, and discussion can be nice, but I wish they had done factions or split the map or something to make it feel more... cooperative? That said, I love the look of everything else. Thanks for the playthrough!

[@OneStopCoopShop]

They are working on more co-op, partially from my feedback and that of others. I can't say for sure how it will turn out, but it looks like factions and special powers and "owning" one aspect of survival and that kind of thing. Hopefully it turns out well.

[@daodasbrot4817]

I titally agree and will not back this game because of this. Solo or pseudo Coop is really nothing for me.

[@Jesentra]

A lot of people (myself included) have voiced this concern on the forums, and the designers have said they are already working on the co-op facet, as OP said. I'm currently backing, but I will probably pull my pledge if I don't see any improvement on the co-op front...I do love solo play games, but I can't justify $80 for a game that I either play by myself, or where we just take turns moving the pieces around.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

@@Jesentra I've talked with Adam (the designer) a good bit, including today. I think they will certainly successfully add powers and abilities for each player, but the core gameplay isn't going to change. I'm VERY happy they aren't adding the semi-coop some people were asking for. I think that would have had the potential to drastically shift the core design as a whole.

[@Gutock]

@@OneStopCoopShop Exact same thoughts. I'm in for a Euro now just to watch, but I really can't justify spending that much for a solo game when I can play my other co-ops solo as well. I get that there are some who love the solo experience and more power to them, but I love being able to sit down and puzzle things out together. Just, not, y'know, the exact same puzzle with the same resources and so on.

[@sm1ttywerb]

I really enjoy games with an emergent narrative and challenging gameplay à la K:DM, this looks like it will have a nice spot in my collection.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Yes, if those are good ones for you, this one should be a hit :)

[@Hybban]

That's a game with lots of moving parts and things to track and remember where a single mistake can cost you the game. They really capture the feel of the video game, but it seems to harsh/unforgiving to mee.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

I mention this in the review, but what I played is apparently the hardest mode, and there are several ways to make the experience easier.

[@Hybban]

@@OneStopCoopShop Good to know! I may get it if it hots the stores near me ;)

[@nZifnab]

Great play through video, they've introduced an updated TTS modules with several modified rules, changes to game boards, and new co-op mechanics. What are your thoughts on these changes? I think the rule/game board changes are all positive (citizen sickness is no longer "contagious", and the generator board is a lot clearer - it's also obvious if you're selecting one of the hard difficulty society starts or not). Lots of people in these old videos mention how the co-op feels shoe-horned in, do you think the updated co-op mechanics make this a compelling co-op game, or does it still feel like a solo game with no real individual decisions, and you just have to decide as a group what actions will be best?

[@OneStopCoopShop]

I’ve liked what I’ve heard about the coop options, but I haven’t actually played any of the new stuff. So I’ll withhold judgment until the game delivers ;)

[@direthelawyer3407]

while holding the alt key, scroll in to make it zoom the object larger.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Thanks! I figured that out since, but hadn't done many TTS plays when I did this one ;)

[@direthelawyer3407]

@@OneStopCoopShop Anytime! Great video by the way. It really helped me a lot. I see your channel is called "One Stop Co-op Shop" Do you exclusively do Cooperative games? Coop games are my personal favorite. I don't play competitive games. Even betrayal at the house on the kill and Dead of Winter are too competitive for me lol.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

@@direthelawyer3407 co-op and solo (including solo variants of competitive games). Our separate streaming channel is pretty much ONLY co-op, but here it's about 50-50.

[@direthelawyer3407]

@@OneStopCoopShop Awesome. thanks for the rapid reply by the way. I'll sub and keep an eye out for which of these games I can bring into my group's TTS. : )

[@OneStopCoopShop]

​@@direthelawyer3407 here are two that are on TTS (and I've done videos of recently) that I absolutely love for co-op: Bullet Paleo

[@TheHexyBeast]

interesting thing i noticed when u were healing im surprised u didn't use the flip three sick tokens lol it wouldnt have made much difference but its a great way to avoid death. i finally watched this playthrough to the end lol ive never got past day 5 lol

[@OneStopCoopShop]

You are probably right, but it always made me feel bad, like I was delaying things instead of actually dealing with the problem!

[@TheHexyBeast]

@@OneStopCoopShop yep this game defo seems not about winning but about not losing lol

[@oneanotherstudios]

Didn't read all the other comments so if this has been answered sorry. But during set up when you draw from the bag to determine where the three resources will be located on the perimeter of the board, how will the tokens look in the actual game? I couldn't tell from the mountain of images on the KS page, but if those tokens are not identical in shape, material, and feel it will be easy to distinguish them when making the draw...in which case there's no point in making a draw.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

I don’t know what it will be in the real game. Simplest would be circular tokens with the different art.

[@baloonia1]

The game is magnificent but unforgiving. Well, bring it on! I want the challenge. Backed the Deluxe version.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

I liked losing repeatedly, but they did say there will be easier difficulty settings if you don't want as much punishment :)

[@haimmaik]

I actually missed out on the kickstarter campaign but contacted the developer by mail and 1 of the backers tapped out and I took his place xD getting the full gamer pledge :)

[@ilqrd.6608]

Damn this looks amazing

[@OneStopCoopShop]

It's a lot of fun!

[@TheHexyBeast]

i been learning the tts mod today myself

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@patriziopastore9895]

Cool seems complex and things going on... but maybe after some match will be easy to setup

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Yeah, first game is a bit tough to get through. But the little player reference card walks through things well, so play 2 on was straightforward for me.

[@patriziopastore9895]

@@OneStopCoopShop thank man for the super quick answer!!! I think I will back this one

[@Cons2911]

Interested, I love the video game

[@OneStopCoopShop]

I've only watched gameplay videos, but it seems like the board game has captured the spirit well.

[@Cons2911]

@@OneStopCoopShop I’ve seen the components, they look very nice. I don’t know how many editions there are and their differences. My wife is also interested and she played the game (and basically failed several times lol)

[@r.chaser8807]

Someone know if It will has a Spanish version?

[@justablokepostingfunvids7137]

When is this available anyone?

[@OneStopCoopShop]

It's still in development, but it looks like you can preorder it here if you missed the Kickstarter: frostpunk-the-board-game.backerkit.com/hosted_preorders

[@justablokepostingfunvids7137]

@@OneStopCoopShop brilliant thank you 👍

[@daodasbrot4817]

Just a question Mike. Did you get money for this two videos? I can't remember that you told it, but as specially for this video you should. It is much work I guess. But if you should tell it also.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

No, I usually say it at the start of each video but might have forgotten here. We never accept or take money for our content of any kind, including KS content. I don't want to deal with the ethical dilemma and bias that could introduce. Like if they paid me $200, am I REALLY going to give my FULL opinion of the game, including my concerns and critiques? We have a Patreon, and since I think of us as serving the viewers, not the publisher, that's good enough for me :)

[@daodasbrot4817]

@@OneStopCoopShop Understand, and I believe you guys. That why I watch much. But this was an infomativ Video which is a good commercial. I believe you said no opinion or review thoughts. But I also understand your point and I guess I just want to have an excuse to stay the cheap bastard I am. Thx again for all you do. "psst" I only what if you do the videos......

[@edwardcullen3251]

Why is it virtual? Where is the physical board?

[@OneStopCoopShop]

I thought I mentioned this, but they didn’t have physical prototypes ready for reviewers. I’ll do a physical video when the actual game delivers.

[@Haykke]

So this is gonna be single player?

[@OneStopCoopShop]

They always planned for it to be cooperative as well, but many (like me) thought the options there were a bit lacking. So they added in specific roles for each players, cards they can play for bonuses, etc. It looks like the co-op option will be much more fleshed out now. You can check their last few updates on the KS page. They discuss the ideas in detail there.

[@hologos_]

When you were resolving the Relics of the past, shouldn't yoi just lost 1 hope since an engineer died? I thought the higher "cost" a of death token is for children.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

You're right that the higher cost is for children, but didn't the event itself say to lose an extra hope? I don't know the timestamp, so not sure where to check!

[@hologos_]

@@OneStopCoopShop 2nd morning begins at 26:55 :)

[@OneStopCoopShop]

@@hologos_ thanks! The option I chose (#2) said to use the "higher hope loss" value from the corpse token, so 2 instead of the usual 1 for an adult death.

[@hologos_]

@@OneStopCoopShop wow, I am blind 😰 sorry

[@OneStopCoopShop]

@@hologos_ no worries! It was definitely an exception from the standard rules.

[@techguyml]

This is solitaire, why do they keep saying this is a coop game? clearly its solo based.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

It sounds like they are trying to add more coop. But yeah, I’m totally happy to play the heck out of this solo and not worry about the coop side ;)

[@PrinceGastronome]

Dissenting opinion for me it would seem. This game looks like a train wreck. I bought the VG on day one and have sunk dozens of hours in it. Watched through this whole playthrough. They basically did everything they could to recreate the single-player experience in the video game, meaning you have to do all the background work the video game does when responding to your choices. I could just play the video for that. Also, I love in the video that the game requires you to survive 12 days and you basically knew you were going to lose by Day 3 and did lose at Day 5. It's This War of Mine all over again, and despite the cult following about that game, it's a dumpster fire. I have talked to numerous people that have played it and no one likes that game. They like the "idea" of that game, but it's randomness and brutal default difficulty points to tone-deaf designers more obsessed with their attempt to create what the think the game should be while ignoring that they have to make a fun game. This board game looks like a glorified solo game and is another nail in the coffin for these designers. Your video is awesome though. Well made. Fully liked.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Thanks for watching. I generally agree with you on This War of Mine. But I don’t get the same feeling at all from Frostpunk. I was playing here on the highest difficulty (I discuss this in the review). You can make it quite easier if you like with variants they are adding. And, at least for me, I didn’t find the upkeep phases fiddly or boring. They go very quickly and the events are consistently exciting. But it is certainly a very close adaptation to the VG, so I think your point that you don’t need to own both is an important one for people to consider!

[@PrinceGastronome]

@@OneStopCoopShop And I think you nailed it with that point--"You can make it quite easier if you like with variants they are adding." This means that they originally didn't intend on making the game easier...they had to add that thanks to player demand. The fact they needed to be told this is a huge mark against them. If they are decent game designers, making the game accessible should be part of your foundation.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Sorry, but I think you are wrong. Adam, the designer, told me he was creating easier variants back when I was first playing the game, before the KS even launched. As a designer myself, I don’t think he is doing a perfect job (no one does), but I think he is doing great!

[@PrinceGastronome]

​@@OneStopCoopShop I guess we'll disagree, as I believe it came out of feedback when they first posted the preview of the game two months ago. I was among those people shouting at them about their difficulty. I absolutely believe they had no intention of offering adjustable difficulty until fans demanded it. Adam is not a bad designer but for his co-op and semi-co-op efforts (yes, including Nemesis), he overtly relies on RNG to make his games more difficult, and that is the lazy way out.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Fair points! I’m previewing another 3-4 KS games in the next few weeks. I wonder if one of them will appeal more ;)

[@All_Ice117]

So this is a solo game that, from what I read, plays a lot like the videogame? Hard pass. Didn't like the board game of This War of Mine because it had a forced "multiplayer" mode that felt like playing a videogame and passing the controller to the next person. I know people like it but, to me, there's no point in being reduntant and making a board game that's just like the videogame. Just get the videogame! Although, i know not everyone could... But the board game is way more expensive too 😅.

[@OneStopCoopShop]

Yeah, solo is definitely the strong point so far. That said, the designer IS working on more fully featured coop play, but I have no idea how that will turn out :)

[@All_Ice117]

Lets hope it turns out great, but I find it hard to happen as the game works perfectly the way it is. Maybe just say it's a solo game and don't make changes that could mess it up? 😅. We'll see.

[@lastburning]

This War of Mine videogame is too easily solvable and trivialized. I'm kind of assuming this to be the case for Frostpunk video game as well. Both of the board games seem to be better games overall than their digital counterparts.

[@odysseusinspace9704]

@@lastburning not really. The additional scenarios and difficulty levels avoid this