FSU vs ACC: Legal EXPERT Shares Updates on SURPRISING Day in Court

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FSU Football: Double Fries No Slaw

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@thornehauser9511 8 ай бұрын

Huge thanks to Doug for keeping us updated

@huntGRN 8 ай бұрын

I'm in Atlanta and now have a new attorney apparently! Thanks Doug

@michaelburleson8783 8 ай бұрын

I like the fact that the judge is giving FSU the opportunity to reassess and file another amendment.

@adamstevens1204 8 ай бұрын

As a lawyer, it is so hard to explain to clients what a motion to dismiss means. It sounds horrible. But is just an attack on the pleadings

@adamstevens1204 8 ай бұрын

The rules are liberally construed to allow amendment unless it is futile

@CharlesFosterMalloy 8 ай бұрын

This was about a mere pleading defect as to the facts & laws alleged in support of jurisdiction in the state of Florida. The court is allowing FSU an opportunity to replead its case and cure the pleading defects concerning or pertaining to jurisdiction. FSU needs to plead the long arm statute or statutes and allege facts that show the long arm statute is satisfied. Certainly the parties all have sufficient requisite minimum contacts with the state of Florida. The essence of the agreements (GOR and associated/incorporated ESPN media agreements) pertain to, in so far as FSU is concerned, FSU's HOME games which are played in Florida, thus, not just some, but all of the relevant "performance" by FSU under the agreements is going to take place inside the state of Florida. ACC and ESPN can thus, reasonably expect to be hailed into court inside the state of Florida, in order to interpret or enforce the subject agreements being performed in the state of Florida by FSU and the other parties in regard to FSU. If they plead their case right, FSU's case will survive this jurisdictional challenge portion of this case. In short, this is just a delay tactic by ACC. It's pretty petty on ACC's part. FSU's lawyers should be able to fix the pleading, forthwith. Another question is, where were the contracts executed ? Did FSU "execute" inside the state of Florida ? This is just a bullshit.delay tactic. Clemson & FSU should go ahead and withdraw from the conference before June 30. Pull the ripcord. Rip the scab off.

@richardbrookins5406 8 ай бұрын

This

@DarienBuford 8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@adamstevens1204 8 ай бұрын

Unconscionable liquidated damages 💔 Great analysis - Licensed attorney in Florida

@tarheel7406 8 ай бұрын

I can't see the exit fee being materially adjusted or being that material period. FSU told the world how valuable it is per its own perspective.

@nole74 8 ай бұрын

People are so emotional. It is not a big deal The GOR stuff FSU put out is pretty interesting but the lawyers got scolded for not arguing their case properly. All in all a nothing burger.

@mikemyrick1458 8 ай бұрын

FSU will be out of this damn conference soon!! GO NOLES #MIKEGOTUS #CLIMB 🍢💯

@alanrobinson9021 8 ай бұрын

$50 M

@thornehauser9511 8 ай бұрын

This starting over from scratch stuff is getting old. I feel like we have gotten nowhere but in debt to our lawyers. I definitely thought our lawyers were more organized than this.

@Mike-sp7zv 8 ай бұрын

The longer it goes the more money they get paid

@10pointdown 8 ай бұрын

Thanks guys

@lukefletcher4689 8 ай бұрын

Quick thoughts! ESPN is big winner as the Court, despite entertaining arguments for nearly 4.5 hours, never reached the issue of disclosing the ACC-ESPN deal. I also found it interesting that the court sided with the ACC on that FSU did not sufficiently demonstrated in its complaint that the ACC falls under Florida jurisdiction. However the Court is permitting FSU to amend its filing. Talk about home field advantage in Leon County!

@joshhazelip7841 8 ай бұрын

They should have the updated complaint done tonight and submit it in the morning

@jamesmccarthy6274 8 ай бұрын

Be careful on asking for beers. You’ll have to drink them!

@RoscoPColtrane17 8 ай бұрын

The best thing we can do as Noles is win the ACC in 24 and just rub that trophy right in the Commissioners face as we exit for a better conference.

@jamesb0255 8 ай бұрын

You mean repeat! 😎

@RoscoPColtrane17 8 ай бұрын

@@jamesb0255 Yes sir!

@richardoneal1055 8 ай бұрын

Hopefully you now have a better understanding why FSU won't win in a Florida court. FSU would be wise to field a JV team to compete in the ACC an fulfill their obligation and field a varsity team and play a few seasons as an independent.

@joshhazelip7841 8 ай бұрын

Requirement in Florida that shit needs removed from law, that to me is lawyers looking out for lawyers guaranteeing more money for them. I’d like to see the stats on how many time mediation actually works!

@ChrisL531985 8 ай бұрын

Fire the current lawyers and bring in the big dawgs

@mikethomas860 8 ай бұрын

I think those are the big dogs.

@joshhazelip7841 8 ай бұрын

Mediator is going to cost us more money and with this dismissal and refiling plus the mediation time beating NC to the finish line is going to be hard. Are you sure this judge isn’t a gator?

@richardbrookins5406 8 ай бұрын

Mediation is required

@totallynole9983 8 ай бұрын

No we will be ok. GO Noles

@babywantsbling2109 8 ай бұрын

Do we need new lawyers? We’re just at the beginning and already we have to start over

@Poseidon0077 8 ай бұрын

Going to be Very Interesting to see that if fsu (by some Miracle), manages to escape the ACC, if either the BIG or SEC will Accept them (which I highly doubt)? And they end-up having no choice but to join the Big-12 😁… 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@tomsmithdeal8286 8 ай бұрын

Spoken like a true loser. Which pathetic bottom feeder school did you drop out of?

@ChrisSadowski-pp1np 8 ай бұрын

They're not doing all this work to join the Big 12. There is mutual interest between FSU and the BIG. There is that pesky AAU thing though. According to Greg Swaim, of the 13 BIG schools he has sources with 11 have said they will not vote for a school that does not have AAU status.

@tomsmithdeal8286 8 ай бұрын

@@ChrisSadowski-pp1np LOL. FSU is #53 academically, tied with Minnesota, and ahead of, in order, Michigan State, Penn State, Indiana, Iowa, Oregon and Nebraska. Are those the schools against FSU? That is hilarious.

@ChrisSadowski-pp1np 8 ай бұрын

@@tomsmithdeal8286 just repeating what the man said, calm down. Lol!

@josephcernansky1794 8 ай бұрын

@@ChrisSadowski-pp1np Greg Swaim is a BULLSHITTER!!! There is NO B1G school that goes around saying stupid shit like that!! ALL of these podcasters just say stupid shit every day and week to get clicks...next week they will contradict themselves. There are NO ..."secret sources that 'knows""

@mikeflynn248 8 ай бұрын

Didn't Florida State sign a binding contract with the ACC? Doesn't the contract have a set amount of $$$ to leave the ACC? Isn't the ACC headquarters in North Carolina and isn't that where the contract was written? Does FSU want out for moral or ethical reasons? Or do they want out because their TV contract doesn't compare to the Big Ten? Maryland had very good lawyers and sued to leave. They still had to pay over 30 million dollars to get out. Afterwords the ACC raised the exit fee and tightened up any loose ends in their favor. FSU signed it because at the time it was the best deal. Now that it's not the best deal they want to take their ball and go home. I also have not heard that The Big Ten or the SEC even want Florida State. FSU should make sure they have a place to go before becoming an independent. If they want out bad enough, pay the money and stop the crying!

@philcasesa8626 8 ай бұрын

The whole enchilada is a settlement! The sooner the better! Go Noles---;;-->

@thornehauser9511 8 ай бұрын

The only job I can think of where they get paid for not doing what they were supposed to do lol

@joshhazelip7841 8 ай бұрын

Don’t forget about politicians but most of them are lawyers so it’s fits

@christopherspindler6328 8 ай бұрын

Well... Except for Congress... The IRS and ATF

@thornehauser9511 8 ай бұрын

And the weather man. I forgot about those

@josephcernansky1794 8 ай бұрын

@@thornehauser9511 Weatherman LIES!!

@errolldoss4243 8 ай бұрын

And the respective lawyers are getting richer by the hour.

@JustN0pe3 8 ай бұрын

Fsu best bet stay in the ACC. Be one of 2 best teams in your conference. Join the B1G or SEC and you'll be mid. Cool fsu is mid a struggles against BC. Yeah that's a top teir B1G or SEC team. Welcome to staying mid if you leave the acc. What will you complain about then?

@purpleivory2 8 ай бұрын

My solution, a) Florida State pays out a $300,000,000 exit fee and b) the ACC lets FSU keep it's TV rights BUT they have to get the fuck out immediately. If that means that they have to play FCS and Group of 5 schools for a few years, oh well, you wanted out SO LEAVE!

@josephcernansky1794 8 ай бұрын

The B1G Conference has 2 Bye Weeks in its schedule this year....FSU can fit in IMMEDIATELY with only a little movement of other games. AND FSU could get north of $75 million already this year.

@chad4075 8 ай бұрын

Doug is awesome

@Mr.rogers1969 8 ай бұрын

Pay up and get to skipping. ACC will spend the money responsibly. Thank you! Trust the climb.

@adamstevens1204 8 ай бұрын

Minimum contacts

@garlandwilliams6354 8 ай бұрын

Hey how’s the coverage going for your Buffs; u rep double fries like ur all and only FSU but ur covering the Buffs as well; what a shame; Noles or nothing; hola at me, I’m waiting..

@DoubleFriesNoSlaw 8 ай бұрын

I have four channels. I do this full time so I can provide better coverage. If you'd like to pay me, I'll stop doing other content and focus on FSU. Shoot me an email if you'd like to set up direct deposit. Thanks for subscribing!

@ricflair8863 8 ай бұрын

Need to get some lawyers out of the portal because these FSU lawyers are getting smacked. ACC up three TDs right now.

@Almighty5-ww1kl 8 ай бұрын

ACC is not up no 3 YDs , at worst if this was a football game FSU drove into the red zone and turn the ball over

@tboards71 8 ай бұрын

Dude what? Stop nut hugging the NC judge, when the FL judge is punching the ACC.

@RoscoPColtrane17 8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 great post

@robrathbun7395 8 ай бұрын

Now that’s funny😂

@troycarroll7063 8 ай бұрын

Perfect!!!

@cavediverjoe 8 ай бұрын

I don't see this ending anytime soon. I think the ACC is in this for the long haul.

@therolandx 8 ай бұрын

Moral of the story. Contract law doesn't apply to FSU? Just man up and work out an honest exit.

@DoubleFriesNoSlaw 8 ай бұрын

That's what they're doing and they haven't agreed yet so they're in court. Are you intentionally dense or just upset that your free ride is leaving the confrenece?

@johndor7890 8 ай бұрын

FSU has some awesome 13-0 Championship rings! Did FSU lose to Georgia 63-3 in the Orange Bowl?

@BigH._.07 8 ай бұрын

Your still on abt that let a team have its wins

@damonjohnson3244 8 ай бұрын

Did ur mammy lose to Georgia

@danielhicks5988 8 ай бұрын

The ring is an ACC championship ring. Nothing to with the orange bowl

@richardbrookins5406 8 ай бұрын

Why is it you homers can't remember what your own coach said about the team they beat that day. That it was NOT the team that went 13-0. He knows it. Everyone knows it by just looking at who played and who didn't. Why can't you guys get it through your thick heads? Too much inbreeding I guess.