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FuelTech FT450 Mistake | FuelTech vs Holley

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KevinWilsonSBC

KevinWilsonSBC

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Blown SBC 406 with 8-71 Blower & Enderle Mechanical Fuel Injection on Methanol and FuelTech FT450 ECU. Is using FuelTech FT450 a Mistake for blown SBC?
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Did I make a mistake with purchasing a FT450 ECU vs FT550 or Holley ECU? The goal is to run Coil on Plugs (COP) in the near future, then eventually electronic fuel injection, but the FT450 can only drive 8 coils using Wasted Spark Ignition due to only having 4 Ignition outputs. The FT550 has 8 Ignition outputs. The Holley ECU seems to be a very popular and easy to use ECU!!
What should I do? Stay with FT450 and use wasted spark? Convert over to FT550 and have 8 each ignition outputs? Switch to a Holley ECU?
This build includes an Enderle 760 Mechanical Fuel Pump 11.4 GPM with MSD flying magnet matched to a MSD 8 Plus Ignition and matching coil all powered by Rock Batteries 3 post battery and Rock Batteries charger. Huge shoutout to Mike and Toni at Alkydigger at www.alkydigger... for setting up the Blower, Enderle Bird Catcher, flowing the pump and just amazing customer service with odds and ins and all my crazy questions!!
This new build is a Blown SBC 406 Dart SHP block with Callies crank, Callies rods, and custom Diamond Pistons with a 8-71 Roots Blower, helical rotors, Enderle Bird Catcher Mechanical Injection, Enderle belt driven fuel pump, Brodix Dragon Slayer heads, ATI turbo 400, Hughes Performance Converter and 4-link coilover Ford 9 inch with 3.89 pro gears. Starting with 22 lbs of boost on methanol with a FuelTech ECU and dual wideband O2 sensors. This is a 48 Ford powered by chevy!
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@castilhosrafael
@castilhosrafael 4 жыл бұрын
Fueltech boy here. I’m from Brazil, and installing FT’s for well over a decade in turbo, NA, supercharger, stock, all kinds of applications. My personal car being a mopar supercharged running on methanol, and wasted spark, with ZERO issues. 90% of the cars here run on this setup, 4cyl, 6cyl, v8, running like that on unbelievable power levels, even on exotic fuels like nitromethane, with ZERO issues. You’ll be amazed how the full control of your ignition, even on wasted spark will improve your race program. The ONLY disadvantage I see in the system is that you’ll not be able to adjust timing individually cylinder by cylinder. But since you’re probably running a distributor, you already can’t do that. With the 450 you’ll have a nice dash, full of information, nice data logger, and controlling your ignition I’ll even be able to do some nice launch controls. And don’t forget to log also your front wheels and driveshaft speed, which will help a lot on your launches, and also to monitor the health of your converter and transmission.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
Rafael Castilhos thanks so much for your comments! Some great info you just shared with me!! After some testing like it is, I may actually try to control the MSD Digital 8 with the FT450 to see if I can do some timing maps with retard as needed. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!
@adamknight9535
@adamknight9535 2 жыл бұрын
Your title basically slags fluetech off when it’s your fault for speccing it wrong. But as the Brazil guys have said it will more than easily run your set up just with waste spark. If you upgrade the FT450 will sell easily and you might aswell go straight for the FT 600
@Zone6G
@Zone6G 2 жыл бұрын
If there are 10 fully configurable outputs, could you configure some to run coils, or are those used up by running injectors?
@TrampusWingo
@TrampusWingo 4 жыл бұрын
I love the Holley stuff, and run it on my junk, but the fuel tech is a great product as well. If you’re already invested in FT, and have all of their proprietary stuff, and your main concern is individual cylinder control, upgrade your 450 to the 550, or see if you can make use of the 600 even. Then, sell the 450 online and recoup some of your expense. I think that will give you plenty of IO, and cylinder control, and get you back to making passes over starting from scratch with a dominator. IMHO. Either way, good luck, and thank you for the content sir!
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
blockequals4 thanks so much for your comments! Good points for sure! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!
@dmck2533
@dmck2533 3 жыл бұрын
I just went through a similar concern with my setup (completely different than yours). I was running a Megasquirt MS3Pro ECU and switched to the Ft550. I don't need all the outputs, but it gives me options in the future. I know a lot of people are telling you Holley, but I'd stay with the FT550. As for the FT450, just sell it to help recoup some of the costs and use what you already have invested. A+
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
D McK thanks so much for your comments! Your points are valid and I have stayed with Fueltech. Once I go Coil on Plug, I will definitely go up to the FT550. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@sweeperstang
@sweeperstang 2 жыл бұрын
I like your approach. You lay out what you know, asking questions remaining neutral. You thought out your content made a plan to seek out information. Good video bud.
@kirkjuan1621
@kirkjuan1621 4 жыл бұрын
Food for thought. I have seen wasted spark systems make 2k-2,700 whp on a mustang dyno and live. However, i would lean towards a Holley system as they are very user friendly and i would be comfortable saying that they are easy to set up and tune.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
kirk juan thanks so much for your comments! So many tell me how easy Holley is and I do agree with what I have seen so far their interface is simple to follow. Good info on wasted spark. Thanks for the comments! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!
@Slimecuda
@Slimecuda 4 жыл бұрын
I recently installed a holley dominator on my TTsbc and am very happy so far. If you were starting from scratch I would go with the Holley but I assume it will cost much more to switch now than to just upgrade the Fueltech. The dominator is not cheap and with methanol you must run their NTK O2 sensors(not the bosch ones) and they alone are $260ea. That along with the fact you already have the Fueltech completely wired and are familiar with it. BTW, looking forward to more of the suspension setup videos.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
Slimecuda thanks so much for your comments! I do agree with you and I am excited to share more suspension videos of my own 48 Ford Coupe. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!
@cooltrkin
@cooltrkin 3 жыл бұрын
Stay with the 450 and see if it works. If not then change to what ever direction you see fit.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
cooltruckin thanks so much for your comments! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@oocds
@oocds 4 жыл бұрын
I personally would keep the FuelTech onboard and upgrade to a FT550 along with a FTSPARK-8. Besides, the truck is already wired up for it. I purchased a FT600 following the advise of several tuners that get paid for a living tuning drag cars. Boy, I'm I glad I did. You might think at first your only interest is a few inputs but, once you start collecting data and using it to go faster and faster you can't get enough of it! I could see a person like yourself adding lots of cool inputs like shock travel sensors and such. I'm new to this level of fuel injection technology myself coming from an old Classic FAST system. Good luck with your decision Kevin!
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
oocds thanks so much for your comments! Very good advice! I have been looking at the FTSPark-8 for sure and you are right about all those inputs!!! I want to monitor my shock travel very soon as that data is just gold to me. Kind of fun making decisions based on facts of the data. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!
@gmadgengarage
@gmadgengarage 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Brother! I would suggest upgrading to the ft550 or ft600. All of previous your wiring and accesories will be direct plug and play on the new unit with the exception of any added sensors that the new unit may have. Fueltech although newer than most has been proven and does not seem to have anything slowing it down. I come from a haltech and AEM world and have since decided to run the fueltech. Best of luck with your decision.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
GMADGEN OFFICIAL thanks so much for your comments! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@stuartbuckley8720
@stuartbuckley8720 3 жыл бұрын
My Harley Davidson runs spark on the exhaust and it has no problems. I do want to bring up the problem with the headers coming loose and raw fuel in the exhaust system with the dual fire ignition system. Please keep us updated on your success!
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
Stuart Buckley thanks so much for your comments! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@StovallsGarage
@StovallsGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Wasted spark isn't dangerous, but like you said full individual control is better, plus wasted spark will limit the amount of dwell per coil...
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
Stovall's Garage thanks so much for your comments! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@luisdelvalle3103
@luisdelvalle3103 3 жыл бұрын
I would stick with the Fueltech, purchase the 550 and sell the 450 with harness A. Get some money back.FT is a very advance system.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
Luis Del Valle thanks so much for your comments! I do agree with that decision. I will also say the support team at Fueltech USA is top notch and very responsive. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@pistoninthewind
@pistoninthewind Жыл бұрын
Waste spark is not a problem. I ran an xdi2 electromotive set up on a 565 12.5:1 all aftermarket BBC 4/7 swap with a big & Ugly and a 1471 high helix retro at 8600 with 48 psi. The only issue is individual cylinder timing. I never needed to do that so it wasn't an issue for me.
@junkyarddawgfixit8970
@junkyarddawgfixit8970 4 жыл бұрын
All the parts you have are of high quality and the combination is solid, I would just make the best of what you have and when you are ready to make the jump to EFI you can start tuning on a junkyard motor with cam and heads or LS and with the FT450. Once you go as far as you can with what you have and you are satisfied, you can sell some parts and move on if you are still convinced that you need to. Not sure you need the coil on plug setup but if you decide to run it as waste spark it should be fine as there will be little or no oxygen left in the exhausting cylinder if everything else is right and the secondary voltage should be very low because there is no compression to drive it up.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
Junkyarddawg Fixit thanks so much for your comments and recommendations! I do agree that I should leave it alone for now and focus on getting the car launching and ensuring we have good AFR to keep the motor safe. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for all of the comments. I've never been impressed with holley as far as efi goes. Plus the people at Fueltech are incredibly helpful.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
theodore Dow-man thanks so much for your comments! I do agree with how helpful the service at FuelTech is as I have emailed them and gotten fast responses. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinWilsonSBC yeah every time I email them at some strange time of night, they're in my inbox by 9am the following day!
@briankrieg5801
@briankrieg5801 4 жыл бұрын
Another system you may want to consider or investigate. MSD has a fairly new ignition the MSD Pro 600 that will support coil on plug.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
Brian Krieg thanks so much for your comments! I am studying the MSD Grid and PRO 600 system for sure. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!
@1quickchevy2
@1quickchevy2 4 жыл бұрын
Had a quick look at the nano instructions. They have a 0-5v analog output proportional to AFR. So if you do switch to Holley, you'll just have to wire that analog output into a holley analog input channels and build a calibration table to scale it, it'll save you buying a new wide band set up.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
1quickchevy2 thanks so much for your comments! That is a great point and I good info on the Nano O2's. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 3 жыл бұрын
Can bus for the win
@TheGreasemonkey75
@TheGreasemonkey75 3 жыл бұрын
Rafeal, with Fuel Tech is the man and he will get you in the right direction!
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
Sean Cross thanks so much for your comments! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@robineriksson953
@robineriksson953 3 жыл бұрын
I have worked with both. Fueltech all they way. Much better support. Holley are completely ignorant on their customer care. I use the ft600 on my car and a buddy uses Holley dominator.
@teemukuikka7100
@teemukuikka7100 4 жыл бұрын
No issue whatsoever running waisted spark setup. Just run good coils to light that alky properly.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
Teemu Kuikka thanks so much for your comments! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!
@alexanderdesfosses
@alexanderdesfosses 3 жыл бұрын
Bite the bullet and get an ft600 and have the best drag ecu made you can also use the 02 Nanos on the holley if you go that route
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
Alexander Desfosses thanks so much for your comments! For now I am sticking with FT and I will be going with the ft600 once I go coil on plug for sure. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@davidsigismondo1472
@davidsigismondo1472 3 жыл бұрын
my condolences to you and your family
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
david sigismondo thanks so much for your condolences! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@GnarshredProductions
@GnarshredProductions 3 жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong with running a wasted spark setup firing the spark on exhaust stroke doesn't effect anything and lots of people with efi setups do it like that. You could probably go to the junkyard and pick up some LS truck coils and rig up your own coil on plug setup with those it should work and be really cheap to do. I find it a little funny that you have an ft450 but running mechanical injection like at this point you might as well just sell the mechanical injection and use fuel tech to control electronic fuel injectors and have a full EFI setup lol.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to leave some feedback! I will be going coil on plug and injectors soon.... Go Fast, go straight! Be Safe!
@GnarshredProductions
@GnarshredProductions 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinWilsonSBC right on man, Im more of an import/honda guy so EFI has always been the norm but I was also a little scared when I took the leap getting into tuning my own car with the laptop. I learned that you can't let the technology intimidate you the only way to learn is to dive into it head first if you put in the time, effort, and refuse to give up you will figure it out there is nothing you cant accomplish.
@kobusengelbrecht5839
@kobusengelbrecht5839 2 жыл бұрын
On v8 I will go straight ft600 Ft450 will work on a 4cyl application or maybe street use 6cyl. Ft550 is for 6cyl full drag applications. V8 I will go straight for the big boss ft600 maybe be more expensive but worth it
@MegaSpool
@MegaSpool 4 жыл бұрын
I would steer clear of the wasted spark setup. In your situation it’s not really the best solution. You would be running the coils in a fashion that they weren’t designed to run in and I’m not sure how firing them twice as much as normal over a given period of time would affect dwell times and the accuracy of tuning them. I’m a Holley efi guy so that’s my suggestion but I don’t have the money invested in the FT stuff you do. Whatever you decide, I hope it works well for you and I appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
MegaSpool thanks so much for your comments and info on the wasted spark! Appreciate you taking the time to add a comment on this one! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@boneyman5365
@boneyman5365 3 жыл бұрын
Ft550 is your best bet! Sell the ft450 imo
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
Boney Man thanks so much for your comments! I agree. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@gregoryglover201
@gregoryglover201 2 жыл бұрын
This is a no braine scenario
@sanger440
@sanger440 4 жыл бұрын
I run a Holley HP Ecu NA on a 900 hp BBC bracket car on E85 with 8 coils and I definitely recommend Holley stuff. However I see no reason not to use what you already have. Maybe run it with the msd and distributor first to get it running good. Then switch to 8 coils in wasted spark so you have a baseline from the MSD/Distributor run. I run $75 junkyard LS coils ( with resistor spark plugs) and never had a failure. If the Junkyard coils work ok in your application, then spend the money for good Holley coils. Your not gonna miss individual cylinder control boosted on Methanol. Just pour the fuel to her and read the plugs. My 2 cents.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
sanger440 thanks so much for your comments! I will certainly be taking it out with the current setup and I do believe the MSD Digital 8 will light it up with around 20 lbs of boost and a reasonable plug gap. Good point on the the individual timing vs individual fuel control. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!
@sanger440
@sanger440 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinWilsonSBC I believe the fuel tech will control the timing while using a msd box, so if you already have a msd box and distributor, you can use it with the fuel tech. I ran a msd 7al2 and a distributor with my Holley efi and then later took out the distributor and went to 8 coils.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
Good point. Andre at FT told me the FT450 could trigger the MSD, but I figured I should start with just sending a RPM signal to the FT450 for starters. I should probably wiring the MSD through the FT450 so I can control timing ramps vs just locking the timing out.
@chaddickey5424
@chaddickey5424 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I learned alot from your white board!
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
Chad Dickey thanks so much for your compliment! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@rcsmotorsportsron707
@rcsmotorsportsron707 4 жыл бұрын
I just think maybe have more options. But I guess one is as good as the other.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
RCS motorsports Ron thanks and I have heard others share that about Holley also. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!
@fredbarnes3969
@fredbarnes3969 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck and safe wallet. I have an unfinished s/b with 6-71. Malloy old school Sprint mag. Crowler 8 port hat . 8 zoom type exhaust . Money is tight. Keep us informed,
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
Fred Barnes thanks so much for your comments! Yes, I am sticking with what I have now for the foreseeable future. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@rightsidelanechoice7702
@rightsidelanechoice7702 2 жыл бұрын
I think the 450 would be fine unless your using a turbo charger that might get some late burn fuel ran thru it. With a blower it’s not going to hurt a thing getting a spark at the end of the exhaust stroke. You won’t see or know if it ignites anyway alcohol is virtually invisible when it’s burning.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!!! Go fast, go straight! Be SAFE!!
@puunersjabski6487
@puunersjabski6487 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going with holly. They've been doing it for ever. American owned company
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
Puuners Jabski thanks so much for your comments! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 3 жыл бұрын
Fueltech is in Georgia.
@luizchemiski4261
@luizchemiski4261 4 жыл бұрын
FT!!!!
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
luiz Chemiski thanks so much for your comments! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!
@autodomeptyltd3156
@autodomeptyltd3156 3 жыл бұрын
You would think igniting left over fuel/ methanol during waisted spark on exhuast stroke might wear out your valve trian little quicker than usual,, still creating a combustion whilst valve is open,,, surley not good if combustion pressure one way or other is pushing against a open valve causing pressure against valve spring, lifters, push rods, cam lobes etc...
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
Simon Hoblos thanks so much for your comments! Agreed!!! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@carmensantiago3461
@carmensantiago3461 3 жыл бұрын
My best friend run small block chevy with ft450 with dist he have to buy a ac Delco module 7 pin work perfect
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
Carmen Santiago thanks so much for your comments! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@Nova-1977
@Nova-1977 3 жыл бұрын
It should work ok .there won’t be enough oxygen left to make and difference . GM has been doing it for years even with a misfire it doesn’t seen to hurt anything . Just my two cents .
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
Vinnie Green thanks so much for your comments! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@jdmwilll7433
@jdmwilll7433 3 жыл бұрын
No much i can say i came across your video looking for info on fuel tech since am considering myself to buy the ft450 hope all works out in your favor if u ever decide to resale that system I’ll be interested good luck
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
OG PORKY thanks so much for your comments! I will going over my Fueltech setup in a future video so that will help. I will also be going with a FT600 in the future so I will keep the channel posted when I am ready to sale the FT450. Thanks for your comments if you can subscribe so we can stay connected on the Fueltech stuff. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@GoingBracketRacing
@GoingBracketRacing Жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin. What route did you decide to go? Fueltech or Holley?
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC Жыл бұрын
Fueltech... checkout my recent videos as I love my FuelTech Go fast, go straight! Be SAFE!
@pistoninthewind
@pistoninthewind Жыл бұрын
I just realized this is an old vid.
@83alpinab9
@83alpinab9 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like a lot of expense for data logging only, but you already spent that money and now want to use the FT450 for spark control. The term coil on plug would indicate 8 coils and the FT450 only has 4 ignition drivers so you would be forced to use the wasted spark method which has been around for a long time. Your concern about firing the lazy cylinder (the wasted spark) while being in a methanal rich environment should have no impact other than spark plug wear (firing 2x as opposed to 1x). The wasted spark would be firing at TDC at the end of the exhaust cycle. Valve overlap would mean that both valves would be slightly open at the time but you have pressure/boost on the intake side and low pressure on the exhaust side (long tube headers for exhaust scavaging). Any spark at this time cannot cause a problem (no cylinder pressure). If anything it may keep the plugs cleaner. As far as the benefits, you already familiar with the software. Your timing can be more aggressive and boost reactive. You could use two-step or three-step for launch control. Line lock control, or nitrous control if added later. The biggest challenge is getting rid of the distributor and MSD and installing and wiring 4 coil packs. Stick with the FT450 and learn more/get better with the interface and tuning. Good luck with your project.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
83alpinab9 thanks so much for your comments! Very good info and thank-you for taking the time to add this comment. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@quintongreene3652
@quintongreene3652 3 жыл бұрын
I would swap to Holley. I believe there is much more people with Holley than fueltech. Much more people like me here in Charleston have Holley
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
Quinton Greene thanks so much for your comments! I am going to make some hits like it is, but it does sound like Holley is the way to go. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 3 жыл бұрын
And what on earth does that have to do with the capability of the product? I used to run megasquirt, but FT blows everything out of the water when you consider the cost aspect.
@daviddematos7470
@daviddematos7470 3 жыл бұрын
I m à big support for U .like your video
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
David Dematos thanks so much for your comments! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@BadBowtie91
@BadBowtie91 4 жыл бұрын
Would you probably like using the Holley more? Sure, maybe even use timing based traction control. The way I see it is that with mechanical fuel injection you only need timing control and you’d be wasting so many inputs/outputs on the Holley. Also I wouldn’t really want to play with the cylinder to cylinder timing of coil on plug but rather manage the fuel which you can’t. At that AFR and the fact you’re running at WOT does batch fire, sequential fire or mechanical injection really make a difference, probably not and if you’re leaving 5-10hp on the table does it matter? What’s your goal? I’m running a sbc on a microsquirt with a distributor and batch fire fuel and mind you I’m still learning but I’m using the ecu I can afford on a budget to it’s full capability rather than just project creeping and delaying the car more / spending money I don’t need to. For you, you’re wired and running, why not keep going and see how the car behaves ? I know the struggle of getting the crank trigger / distributor to cooperate but once it’s set and so is your phasing I don’t see an issue with this. I fought with this for a while but the cost of going coil on plug outweighed the benefit because I’m batch fire (the way I see it similar to mechanical injection or carbs). Huge appreciation to you and your content, keep us posted on where you’re going.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
BadBowtie91 thanks so much for your comments! Great feedback! My goal is to move more to twin turbos with sequential fuel injection and COP. However, I think that my be best to do more in a chassis build versus the back half GBody frame on the 48 Ford. With this build I want to enjoy it with Dad, even if we stay single coil and distributor. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!
@fernandomarassi3303
@fernandomarassi3303 4 жыл бұрын
If you are afraid, sell your MSD stuff + FT450 and upgrade to 550 + FT Spark. Be happy!
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
Fernando Marassi thanks so much for your comments and opinion on the FT Spark and 550! I definitely need to study the FT Spark more. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 3 жыл бұрын
FT input expander.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
theodore Dow-man thanks so much for your comments! I will check into the expander for sure. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinWilsonSBC after watching your while vid, it might not be for you (some of the features not available on the 450) still worth a moment to look though.
@Orion44851
@Orion44851 3 жыл бұрын
Holley Dominator for sure Kevin I would stay away from the wasted spark stuff, if there's any Oxygen on the exhaust cycle it's going to ignite it and alter your air fuel readings from the O2 sensor
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
Roger R thanks so much for your comments! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 3 жыл бұрын
Never seen that happen before.
@larrynagy2926
@larrynagy2926 3 жыл бұрын
Holley dominator efi hands down. No modules needed for O2's. Complete control over everything.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
Larry Nagy thanks so much for your comments! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 3 жыл бұрын
Module? Can bus for o2 on my unit.
@rddmjr1
@rddmjr1 4 жыл бұрын
FT450 if using 4 fuel injectors. But, why do you need a distributor?
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
RENERIO MOURA JR thanks so much for your comments! I need a distributor today as I don't have Coil on Plugs yet nor do I have a cam sync installed that will also spin that oil pump. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!
@rddmjr1
@rddmjr1 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinWilsonSBC Suggestion: You only need two "Delphi DS20013-12B1 Ignition Coil", and you don't need the CKP, only the CMP.
@victordahn2150
@victordahn2150 4 жыл бұрын
I would contact Scott Clark from real tuners. He has a LOT of experience with different combos like this.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
Victor Dahn thanks so much for your comments! I will be looking him up tomorrow. Thanks for the info! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!
@jimhiscott2918
@jimhiscott2918 Жыл бұрын
Screw the 450👎. If you run coil on Plug you will want to run your ignition and injection as sequential. As it is the 450 can only run waisted spark and with 8 coils that is no good at all. You must run the 550. The 550 is far superior and your not going to run out of inputs/outputs. Also very important if you run sequential you must have a cam sync. This will require using a distributor for cam sync. The Holly is a fantastic choice as well. They have been building domestic hot rods so long they have it all figured out. Conclusion, if it's a domestic build use Holly, if it's foreign use fueltech.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. Lots lots of domestic builds running fueltech. I am switching to a FT550 over the winter. Go fast, go straight! Be SAFE!
@NoOne-uu2zt
@NoOne-uu2zt 2 жыл бұрын
Switch to f550
@carmensantiago3461
@carmensantiago3461 3 жыл бұрын
Man go for ft 550
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
Carmen Santiago thanks so much for your comments! I will stick with FT for sure. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@tunesandturbos8830
@tunesandturbos8830 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice the afr? Or am I just stupid.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 3 жыл бұрын
Tunes and turbos thanks so much for your comments! What is your question? It is a blown methanol motor. Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!!
@tunesandturbos8830
@tunesandturbos8830 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin Wilson yes sir. I don’t guess I heard you say meth inj. Lol. My fathers car was f-2 procharged 540 on m1 and also running the ft600 and I tuned the car lol just lmk if you have any tuning questions and I’ll sure try to help man
@scottmaschari5327
@scottmaschari5327 4 жыл бұрын
Holley ECU for sure....
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
Scott Maschari thanks so much for your comments! Holley definitely seems to be winning the general vote for sure!mGo fast, go straight! Be Safe!
@elonmust7470
@elonmust7470 3 жыл бұрын
Holley makes carbs.
@rcsmotorsportsron707
@rcsmotorsportsron707 4 жыл бұрын
Fuel tech is good, BUT for us I would go Holley.
@KevinWilsonSBC
@KevinWilsonSBC 4 жыл бұрын
RCS motorsports Ron thanks so much for your comments! Go fast, go straight! Be Safe!
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