Full 2023 Step-By-Step Masterclass/Guide | Dyson Sphere Program | #1

This is a step-by-step "Play Along" guide on Dyson Sphere Program, 2023 Proof. Blueprints included!
This episode: Blue Science & Mall!
This run will be focused on
- Explaining all the details
- No Spaghetti
- Easy to use layouts and blueprints
Blueprints supplied! (Tech appropriate, based on latest update)
SEED: 2834 8053
This playstyle is extremely organized and will very effectively scale towards endgame, and in my humble opinion, very optimized.
It is definitely not the only way to play, so I encourage you to try things out for yourself as well!
Don't forget to like the video if you find it useful, and subscribe to see the rest :)
Dyson Sphere Program is currently in Early Access and updated on a regular basis. Despite being in early access, it is extremely polished and complete, so I highly recommend you checking out the game if you are a fan of Factorio, Satisfactory or other building/management/factory games.
I am not sponsored in any way - Just a big fan of the game.
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[@TheDutchActuary]

THERE IS A NEW (2024) EDITION OF THIS MASTERCLASS here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZXEeWaEgalprM0

[@Cleanshooter]

I hope you keep this series going. It's nice to see a DSP series for new players that isn't several months old.

[@TheDutchActuary]

Working on it as we 'speak' ! :)

[@carlbarberous]

OH NO, its now the thing you didn't want it to be.

[@Christian-mr5so]

@@carlbarberous Bad news its gotten worse :P

[@benbriggs4604]

guys this video is becoming older still

[@Christian-mr5so]

@@benbriggs4604 this is horrible what do we do ?!?

[@Yardiff]

It is nice to see a mall which isn’t strung out 1000km long.

[@TheDutchActuary]

After having walked up and down my own 1000km version a few million times I was so annoyed I folded in it. Then I felt stupid for not designing it like that in the first place - this is so much more convenient, AND easier to place down without foundations. Glad you liked it too!

[@Clipper_Damez]

I thought they were all supposed to be like that hahaha

[@bryandpalmer]

I had no idea about the "press tilde key while holding a copied assembler" to remove the attached sorters. Thanks!

[@Aaron-gm5tr]

Hold shift on roads also locks the road to your desired height

[@NonEuclideanTacoCannon]

6:52 that's why I watch these beginner's guide videos sometimes. I'm 10 hours in and I didn't know you could place things off-grid with Shift+R. That's great to know. I'm watching today because I feel like I'm about to hit a wall, and I'd like to see how my design strategies compare to others.

[@dfs1407]

The fact that this playthrough has only 16k views is criminal! The video quality, all the thoughts put into the series is astonishing. Great work :O

[@TheDutchActuary]

Thank you for the kinds words! And hey, at least you got it 1 more view :)

[@Gabriel-di5nq]

135k views now! If one likes neat simple builds for early game, this is great.

[@mrt1957]

141K views 5 months🤑

[@r0ll1ng3r]

239k

[@Warcus861]

Im new to the game, only 10 hours in. And wow I have not done shit. Havent mathed out anything, some stuff just happen to be overproducing while other stuff just happen to be underproducing (mainly energy matrix, which is as far as i have gotten). Most of my belts look like pretzel. And I am crafing every builing by hand. Including the pretzel belts.

[@Transmute13]

I'm new to DSP but an experienced Factorio player and was looking for exactly this... thanks! I especially love your initial base that you set up upon landing, when you hook up iron, copper, and coal to produce the basic intermediaries. I think it took me 2-3 hours to create a giant spaghetti mess that you neatly and compactly fit into what looks like a 6x8 grid 😆

[@blitz3463]

Awesome explanations as you always do. As I said in the other video, glad to see you back on DSP!

[@kingrepeats]

Excellent guide! I took a long break from the game and forgot some of the basics. This has helped tremendously. Keep it up!

[@TheDutchActuary]

Thank you!

[@RezaQin]

This has been extremely helpful. So far, I'm on my fourth restart and things are much much more smooth this time.

[@brianwalsh9984]

Thanks for the video. True newbie to the genre (played 60 hours in 3 days and man did my planets look terrible). You have helped drastically.

[@brianwoodbridge88]

I have more then a thousand hours in this game but this has helped me get a few basic things down that I forgot about. When I started I had never played any factory games before so I was just making it up as I went along. Thanks!

[@ImAEpicster]

Omg I just realized this was uploaded yesterday! I just started playing the game again and these designs will be super helpful! Keep up the videos for Red and Yellow science!

[@TheDutchActuary]

Coming soon!

[@dauntless0]

I remember watching a let's play series when I gave dsp a try a year or so ago but it was more an exploratory playlist. I'm very thankful I came across this playlist. The way you explain how things work so concisely makes it so much easier to understand and get to grips with! Thank you for your hard work, looking forward to doing a lot better on dsp now!

[@werdnanesral7536]

Just restarted after about a year break and this video is something i wish i had before and am grateful for now i look forward to the 2nd masterclass video excellent information thanks mate!!😊

[@TheDutchActuary]

Glad you found it useful, and welcome back!!!

[@Noxanater1]

Nice , Just finished your perfect build playlist and this popped up

[@chiefkaysee5720]

I really liked this series and with the logistic drones and your mobile mini factories, I am able to organize my planets and production better and faster.

[@toesiestim]

Nice beginner vid. Spacing out those m.coil and circuit assemblers unnecessarily (you can fit a power pole between assemblers) hurt my soul though. And then going on to build large scale blue production feeding research placed too closely to prevent future red/yellow/purple/green belts rendered this a bit meh. A "Master Class" would have allowed for that.

[@tacoma87x]

Fuck yea love your videos. Helped me understand the overwhelming amount of stuff this game throws at you. Great to come back to after long stretches of time.

[@1979ce]

You say this is for new players or players confounded by the complexity. You should players who want new ideas for clean efficient builds. Old players like me can get stuck in ruts or stuck using their old blue prints. Seeing new clean and efficient builds can re spark the creative side again.

[@coldsunflares]

Early-game spaghetti and my slight OCD tendency to have everything in perfect layouts has always hindered me from progressing any further, until I stumbled on this video. Excited to try out these new layouts.

[@TheDutchActuary]

I know exactly what you mean! I must have started over about 12 times before even reaching yellow science when I first started. (and those layouts still didn't look as neat as the things I do now) But just lean into your OCD and keep on making stuff look even better, it's not a race!! :)

[@runonce]

I thought spaghetti was the only way but I was wrong, thank you!

[@detleffegers3780]

I am new to this and you lost me with the mall. I need a Mall tutorial. What to copy? Where? Waht are the correct files? I don´t see any kind ot tutorial...OK, let me be more specific: in the game I can see Maal A, Mall B and Mall C. On the website oyu posted, there are many mall files. How to assemble them? Which are the "right ones"? Thank you.

[@TheDutchActuary]

Hey there! From the blueprint library, for the mall you'll need "Early Mall (Part 1 of 3) and the next 2 parts of course. They all link together, forming the mall shown. To get these in your game, just go to the website and select 'copy to clipboard'. Then ingame, open a new blueprint, and click the 'paste' button on the righthand side of the interface. And you're good to go!

[@detleffegers3780]

@@TheDutchActuary Thank you!

[@tuongduyly8007]

#TheDutuhActuary 😎😎😎😎

[@iainrobson8430]

Thank you for the video, and the blueprints are really useful! Much appreciated.

[@nekogod]

I ended up building a hub like this by accident almost, was building Nilaus' one and it wouldn't fit so folded it round like you have and it looked silly to just have the end folded round so tore it down and did it closer to the middle, ended up looking quite similar.

[@michaelfields714]

You can make DSP videos as much as you want I'll keep watching them.

[@TheDutchActuary]

Hahaha be careful what you wish for! :)

[@chernoboogaloo]

What an incredible amount of work and dedication from a relatively extremely small youtube channel! You deserve so many more subs

[@danimal4691]

Relatively extremely small is one of the strangest ways I have ever seen something be described.

[@Haendelman]

I discovered this game a few day ago. Your guide helps me to start it with more planning. Thx a lot with greetings from Germany. (:

[@azytrx]

This has made me realise how overly complicated I made my first (and current) setup.. great video!

[@TheDutchActuary]

Half the fun of this game is starting out messy, and then slowly improving your builds as you learn the game. Thanks for the kind words, and have fun with it!

[@ryano1267]

I don't understand why you built so many research labs. Why you need 18? Isn't the production to consumption ratio of science 1:1 ? One matrix lab building science supplies one research lab perfectly

[@kenmojica]

Highlly inefficient program I have been placed into, and I could never serve to benefit from learning in this program as the leads, moderators, specialists, etc. have shown to be incompetent and not knowing how to handle me. So, I singlehandedly learned the in's and out's of everything and showed them the brilliance that was trapped by their false reality and environment.

[@brianjakobsen2475]

Really neat layout. Going to give it a spin a new seed soon! One thing, though. Sorters and belts Mk1 are used in the upgrade to Mk2. So you may want to reconsider the placement on their storage to be easily accessible for the coming upgrade. The upgrade from Mk1 to Mk2 is extremely significant, while the Mk3 belts are only really needed for the Casimir Crystal setup (due to huge hydrogen needs) and the Fractionator circles. Great narration, and very good layouts for us neat freaks spaghetti haters out here! :D

[@TheDutchActuary]

I typically just skip from MK 1 to MK 3. You're right that you don't really *need* MK3 in many places, but I can't be bothered to carry 2 different types around and/or think too much about what goes where. There's no downside for using the faster ones (assuming you're not playing on very low resources)

[@davecrupel2817]

The logistics bots were a *godsend* for me, when they came out. A downscaled delivery drone system, what goes from storage to storage. A wonderful way for someone like me to eliminate spaghettification from my game. Now I have a mini Corusant instead! I'll take a cloud of drone traffic all day long over endless belt sphagetti.

[@rescues_greyhounds]

Stupid question. I have the logistic bots, but how do you get them to actually work?

[@davecrupel2817]

This explanation is made under the assumption that you've researched the bots and dock/distributor thing. You need to set up the distributor things the drones fly to and from. You do this by placing them on a storage unit. Or a stack of storage units. (It caps the stack though fyi) The best use of them is to put one on a storage unit that's receiving a supply from somewhere. Like miners or an assembly line. Then you click the distributor, and select the item you want it to manage. If you have items in the attached storage unit, the distributor will automatically select it upon placement. Now here's where the options come in: Do you want it to _distribute_ that item to other hubs? In this case, with the distributor hud brought up, next to the item you click the little slider and make sure it's blue. It will say "Distribute items to other places" or something to that extent. After that, you just build a couple of drones, put them in the fill slot like on an ILS, and you're all set. It will do the work itself from then on. Just make sure you have the power available to keep the drones powered. This is the only drawback to using them. Unlike belts, they consume power. Do you want it to _receive_ that item _from_ other hubs? To do this, you do essentially the same things. Except the slider i mentioned has to be switched from blue to orange. And it will say "recieve item from other buildings" or something like that. Build a few drones, put them in it, and the hub will do the rest. Do you need it to supply your own inventory? Yes this can be done. AND it can be done at the same time as either of those other options. In the distributor hud, above the slider i talked about, there's another smaller slider. Blue option is "send items to icarus." Orange option is "recieve items from Icarus." And it also has a middle option (this is the default) that lets it send OR recieve items from your inventory, depending on what your demands are. You also need to set up the logistics in your inventory. When you pull it up, on the left is the logistics spot. Check the logistics box up top. Then in one of the 2 colums, click a spot. Click the item or building you want either supplied to, or removed from, your inventory. It will ask you for a quantity. This is how much you will have when the logistics are done. It will either add to your inventory untill this number is met Or it will take away from your inventory untill this number is met. Depending on how you have it set at your distributors. Hope this helps! These bots are super handy little guys. But if you dont like crowded skies, you wont like using them en masse like i do. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions!

[@huntercovington913]

"Cog" and "gear" are different words for the same object... anyone nitpicking this small thing is simply being pedantic.

[@robbenada4836]

Excellent work!

[@TheDutchActuary]

Thanks!

[@derrick211000]

I feel like a Neanderthal after watching your video. I am so inefficient and wasteful. My planets look like chaos.

[@Ulnias]

"If you want to be lazy and not mine the trees and grass, you can set up automated mining if coal for fuel" thats not being kazy myvguy thays being efficient lol love this vid, hope to see more like it

[@GreenRayJC]

I know this is an older guide, but maybe update timestamps with blueprints. Or mention the name of the blueprint that is part of the collection at the time we would need to use it. Example 30:13 a blueprint of the smelters would be helpful here.

[@sudoGetBrainInstall]

Why the Planets not Flat? Where are the Reptoloids? tzzz thats not sci-fi..thats fantasy :D

[@kirmit7793]

Such a great guide. I was up to creating yellow cubes, but it was such a mess to look at. Decided to restart after watching this and following your principles.

[@TheDutchActuary]

Oh man, the road to yellow science is so messy at first. I must have restarted my own game at least 12 times just because i felt it could be neater :D

[@gangstersnow]

been watching your old dyson videos this week trying to understand the game as i spiral out of control because i build too many facilities and not enough power. so excited to see your are making videos again on this game

[@TheDutchActuary]

The next two episodes will definitely help you out then! I think episode 3 (which has yet to be made :)) is where I will address this EXACT issue and how to deal with it.

[@TheBunzinator]

"It's not a mall, it's a hub. A mall is a place where teenage girls hang out."

[@r0ll1ng3r]

Thanks for your blueprint Page, i will try it.

[@arix4783]

Hold shift then left click and dragging don't let me make multiple items like in vid am i missing something?

[@Brandon-sc3rz]

this might be a dumb question but do you game over if you run out of fuel and don’t have more in your inventory?

[@TheTaoistOnline]

Just bought this game and started to feel very lost. So, I turned to youtube and found this video series. Thank you so much! This is a beginners dream video!

[@Cbobley]

Bro my spaghetti looks horrible compared to this but hopefully I can fix it once I get to a new solar system

[@TheDutchActuary]

Everyone starts with spaghetti the first few times - Including me!

[@V_Vigg]

did someone notice that the jumpstart base part 3 blueprint in the game is mall planet?

[@vinhtien7083]

come back here after dark fog out and having a blast again

[@briankozuszek7022]

Great potential of a video, but honestly has the basic concepts slightly wrong. Power supply to buildings is completely off. Keep using wind turbines in a grid pattern. then build inside the grid pattern. His works, but it totally under powered. so every will run at a snails pace. The item mall concept has 100 percent approval . try to have one factory or smelter to one item. not feeding into 2. Usually keeping things straight is much better. no angled sorters.

[@TheDutchActuary]

I actually mention to keep an eye on your power supply for exactly this reason - most of the power is just built off screen because watching me put down dozens of turbines isn't very interesting ;)

[@primegaming3048]

Unless im blind but that could be the case, the build at 22:47 isnt in the blueprint folder? unless its not supposed to be

[@crazyjaybe]

Yeah, I restarted the first couple times until I got the hang of it. Then, I built and narrated to myself, "k, I need this. Oh, I need this..." and before long, I had built...a *_thing_* Now i realize we call that a mall lol. I lol'd at the mall. Mall lol.

[@TheDutchActuary]

Yup! Embrace the power of the mall! :D

[@OriginalSpoodbeest]

Just starting this game after playing Factorio for years and thousands + hours. Learning new systems gets frustrating. Thanks for these vids. You’ve really parsed things out in an easily understandable way. Great examples and descriptions of ratios. Keep up the good work!!!

[@StrangerDanger3279]

I just realized the math in this game is weird. The recipe is 2 per second and the assemblers move at 75% speed so logically that should be 1.5 per second...but when you look into the assemblers themselves it states they are making 45 items a minute. 0.75 items per second. Based on that then you actually need 8 assemblers to make one full belt.

[@dukecunning7046]

Love this information! Wish I had seen it put this way, before. Appreciate it! Thanks! 🙂

[@jimmymcgoochie5363]

Wait, control+click takes the products out of a building? Why didn’t I know this?

[@TheDutchActuary]

Today you learned!

[@SupraSav]

Awesome, found this super helpful. I am pretty sure when I first started playing it did not show you the available actions/keybinds on the top right and that made this game a puzzle

[@MattLathrum]

I don't understand the reasoning or lure for a mall like that, especially for a new player. I would rather have a few stacks of each base material and craft on my mech on demand instead of having to travel to a specific part of the planet and find what I need amongst more than a dozen separate storage units. The mech will automatically assemble from base materials and it's much easier that way. Also, later on when you get drones, you can keep those base materials topped up on your mech.

[@TheDutchActuary]

That also requires you to keep producing those buildings on your mech manually. Once you start scaling up, it's not going to be viable for your mech to keep up with the production of all these buildings & belts and most importantly: you'll have to babysit that production as well as you need a lot of different things. The mall takes all of that out of the equation, and restocking becomes a lot easier. And with the addition of drones you do exactly what you describe, but instead of topping off the materials you top off the stacks of buildings directly. At that point there is zero effort required from your own mech. In short: It's just more efficient :)

[@garrettlaurel9505]

My PC crashes when I quit out of the game. Anyone have any info on how to stop it? My PC is fully updated etc.

[@TheDutchActuary]

I'm sorry to hear that! I've never had this issue myself, although on my old laptop it would sometimes crash due to the GPU overheating in endgame (oops)

[@xnodaix]

People gave you shit for saying cog and made you give in to that bullshit? I'm sorry bro.

[@TheDutchActuary]

Hahaha don't worry about it :D One of my most commented videos includes a whole page of people arguing about how to pronounce the word ' Iron '. Its actually really fun, and every now and then I actually do learn something :)

[@Comicsluvr]

Overwhelmed? Yeah...that's a good word for it LOL!

[@HypnoToad248]

Pretty much just copied the designs here and fit them to my terrain, but I greatly appreciate you making this video. Rly helped me grasp the basics

[@Milsar774]

As a newbie I feel like I'm am playing a different game

[@BooseOG]

Thanks for this series, Im following along but on my own seed.

[@flixiand3r371]

just spent 3 hours on this youtube video, probably the most rewarding and beneficial time ive ever spent on youtube

[@erbse1178]

This game looks very much like a 3D rip-off of the Factorio game idea.

[@TheDutchActuary]

It's similar to factorio (just like every game in the genre), but I wouldn't call it a rip-off. It has many unique features and the graphics are next level. The mechanics are also significantly different in many places, so just applying your factorio approach in this game isn't going to cut it. Try it, if you like factorio you're almost guaranteed to love this!

[@BL1P]

Brilliant help, thank you so very much !

[@Gabriel-di5nq]

The Mall at 28:45 looks perfect for a blueprint. Maybe it could be broken up into parts for a new game?

[@TheDutchActuary]

You mean like in the blueprint collection linked in the description? :)

[@wilgecko9216]

Subbed! I like this, easy to understand, but will take me time to grasp all those tips, a little by little, again thank you for this content!

[@silvergeneration]

This was a great video and helped me get an idea of how to make cleaner factories, can't wait for part 2!

[@TheDutchActuary]

Coming up in a few hours! :)

[@bbnnmm9]

Wait so this is like factorio an mindustry? I thought u has to build stuff around stars? I'm confused 😕

[@TheDutchActuary]

It's better! And you build stuff on planets (similar to factorio) but ALSO travel between planets, and build dyson spheres around the stars. So you know, a lot of fun!

[@dannyhartwig7595]

my planets look always like after orbital bombardment. but since i beat the game 15 times or so i think it works anyways

[@adrianbecker8590]

15 times ? And your still not organized 😂?

[@dannyhartwig7676]

@@adrianbecker8590 as long as it works i See no point in changin anything. Satisfactory the Same

[@adrianbecker8590]

@@dannyhartwig7676 do what u gotta do :) but I improved a lot in my 2. rub, that’s why I’m asking

[@r0ll1ng3r]

Thank you, hope they will help me against my chaos that i allways ended in this game. :-D

[@TheDutchActuary]

Embrace the chaos! :D

[@rescues_greyhounds]

I’m new to this game. Does anyone know if we can turn combat off? My base is a complete mess and I don’t want to deal with enemies. Thanks! Also, since I am new I’m playing with infinite resources and just taking my time. I haven’t optimized anything yet.

[@TheDutchActuary]

Combat isn't in the game yet, but yes - You will be able to turn combat off (the developers have confirmed this)

[@rescues_greyhounds]

@@TheDutchActuary thanks!

[@mistersquigee5119]

So that's why my calculation never worked they work at 75% speed! never noticed that thank you! kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp-rpoOwnrx-gKc

[@Peter-vn5jq]

You're making me feel entirely inadequate. Good God, my mall looks like a spaghetti monster in comparison. And now I have to restart.

[@TheDutchActuary]

Sorry! :D

[@Peter-vn5jq]

@@TheDutchActuary Is all good, my new autismo base looks much better thanks to the ideas I stole from you, hehehe Oh, and merry Christmas!

[@raistlinsly1]

thanks so much for this video

[@IvanHCMank0]

Puedes poner subtítulos? No entiendo inglés jajaja

[@TheDutchActuary]

KZbin should have the option for you to change the subtitles to pretty much any language you want!

[@gaby19942]

When earth will explode? * Any question* :D

[@TheDutchActuary]

In about 7,6 billion years (at least, thats when the sun will absorb the earth, so I guess that counts as exploding?)

[@theoDSP]

Show me your spagetti

[@chrismwinand]

Before I had to stop playing recently, I started a "super seed" play of sorts and then spent 2+ days to fly to te edge of the system. At one point I left the game run overnight for a 7hr FTL to reach a jump point. With the new update that is out. Do older save games have the combat update or do we need to restart?

[@TheDutchActuary]

To my knowledge you'll need to restart. The old saves basically work exactly like a new game with combat disabled.

[@chrismwinand]

@@TheDutchActuary thanks for letting me know. I might procrastinate a new game until I get a little more knowledge in some game mechanics.

[@skyethecat7366]

I started out without a tutorial and didnt make a mall and i have to manually craft things 5 hours into the game ;(

[@TheDutchActuary]

It's never too late to make a mall!

[@mikegamerguy4776]

There are at least 2 web calculators to figure out ratios for you in this game as well as factorio. No need to do the math yourself.

[@TheDutchActuary]

And have the calculator have all the fun? No way!

[@xxelitexxgruntetalica3899]

Helped me with a few things starting out but im looking for explanations and reasons for doing things, not just placing and saying "there it is, copy it". Guess what im asling is if there can be a more in depth tutorial, explaining why you do certain placements and how itll effect you later in the game.

[@TheDutchActuary]

In terms of ' later in the game ' the answer is ' not at all. If you stick with this for a few more episodes, you'll see that once you get access to other planets you will completely change the way you build. In my older playthroughs (also on this channel) I showcase various other styles of play you might enjoy. If you're looking for a lot of indepth design explanations, you might enjoy the 'Perfect Ratio Run'. It's a bit older but might be a good fit for what you're looking for. (That said, I am considering making a new beginners tutorial because honestly, I think it's about time someone made an updated version!)

[@TheDutchActuary]

Link to the playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLvL9DTY8LNDNboLYI9o5ZNPAwLnOILLsk&si=qG7ZaPEyOGMs4-8h

[@MooseMeus]

yea i need to watch one of these before i dive in. devs are obviously much smarter than I am.

[@TheDutchActuary]

The devs are super smart for sure! But half the fun is figuring the game out as you repeatedly fail (and improve!)

[@greghoffstadt667]

After watching your video for the 20th time or so. I greatly appreciate your help. You also kept the design simple and symmetric. My OCD thanks you greatly 😂. Also fyi I'm half deaf. Might help others like myself if you slow down just a touch. If not thats fine. I can slow your roll on my end. 😂 Thank you, and great video!!

[@TheDutchActuary]

Good feedback! I do actually try to slow down a tad, my normal speaking speed is like playing the video's at double speed XD

[@bnhuo15]

How do u set the coal thermal power plants so close? When I try it, the game wont let me.

[@TheDutchActuary]

This depends on where you are on the planet, the grid works a bit different depending on how close you are towards the poles.

[@Quietgamer80]

That is pretty smooth start to making mag coils and circuit boards.

[@Boozsha_Bo_Bellys]

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[@ProfRainestorm]

Wow thank you so much!

[@stespin]

A bit of a more advanced question about late game: What is more efficient? 1- Total compartmentalization of planets with each one doing its own thing depending on the main resources available, with as little interplanetary exchange as possible; 2- A central planet producing and researching everything you need, with all the mining and smelting done on different planets with a lot of interplanetary towers bringing stuff in. I'm asking because I tried n.2, but I can't seem to have the towers keep up with my production chains...

[@TheDutchActuary]

You'll never fit everything on 1 planet, so (2) is not going to work. However, you could definitely get close to that if you take a similar approach but with a few planets. But as you said, you'll definitely need to make sure you have enough logistic vessels supplying. I would suggest going for something a bit more like (1), if mainly for the reason that it will allow you to save your framerates a bit longer by producing whatever you can locally.

[@DarrenMalin]

very nice , thank you :) subbéd

[@sirparzival5682]

I started playing two days ago and I just got the point where I am completely lost so I decided to look up a short tutorial on how to progress. Compared to what I set up for automation, I look like a toddler playing with rocks. My production and conveyor lines are so complex and disorienting that I'm frequently getting lost in my own build. I think I'll go ahead and use those blueprints lmao.

[@TheDutchActuary]

Strange as it may sound, I would highly recommend you make your own blueprints unless you get stuck/burned out. My first factories were a spaghetti hell as well, and personally I got a LOT of satisfaction & fun out of improving it every time!

[@Xiox321]

Huh. Now I know that I'm not smart enough for this game.

[@TheDutchActuary]

Hahaha sure you are, I just might be a few hundred hours of playtime ahead of you :)

[@Baconator96]

I CAN CONNECT THINGS WITHOUT CONVEYOR BELTS??!

[@TheDutchActuary]

Yup!

[@failsafe123123]

Doing first mall is always a bit of a problem. I remember my first spaghetti lines in Factorio... I've almost quit playing the game then, haha. Everything looks neat in your build, I like it. Could you name what is being produced in this mall - not asking about smelters, but just assemblers. Im still early in the game, and while I could copy your setting, I'd like to know what is actually needed in this stage of game.

[@TheDutchActuary]

I'm actually producing every building you can build from the blue technologies (with the exception of the power towers, as I usually only build like 3 of those for a long time). You pretty much need all of the production/mining buildings in fairly large quantities, so makes sense to just automate all of them. It helps that they all need similar inputs.

[@failsafe123123]

@@TheDutchActuary Thanks for answer. It makes sense. Meanwhile I've tested Your hub from blueprints... so yeah, I've lost some fun on constructing my own (on the other hand: what kind of mall can person construct during first gameplay?) but it was worth it. It is really very well designed. One single flaw - maybe not even a flaw - is that warehouses are inside of the area. Ive noticed that our mecha has many problems walking between buildings - seems that pathfinding is not that good in details ;-P. But it doesnt matter, since everything works smoothly. I think that I will try to do it on my own next time - just to have my own idea inside the game, of course. I would try doing a big "C" instead of yours "U" with all storages placed in "C" line and easy access from one direction.

[@TheDutchActuary]

You don't need to run up to the storage units, you can access them from a bit away. Having them in the middle makes it easier to access them all at the same time. Even easier: Put logistic distributors on top of them and have the materials fly to you :D@@failsafe123123

[@failsafe123123]

@@TheDutchActuary Oh, I didnt know that. Well, okay, I've noticed that I can access them from a small distance (much bigger than in Factorio, haha) but didnt know about distributors ;-).

[@StrangerDanger3279]

I actually have a tip for that starter set up you got there. Don't use belts for the research facilities. It takes longer for the items to reach the destination and start crafting which means there is some downtime, it also requires more sorters and belts using slightly more resources and power. Because of the space being used by the belts it's also less compact. On the other hand just directly inputting the items from the assemblers or if you want the chests is enough production to support 2 labs producing blue jello. Or if you want 1 with extra production to stock the chests. Though to meet copper production I suggest putting 2 sorters into the copper furnace since it's farther away from the ore. Overall just directly inputting the items into the lab uses less resources, is more compact, easier to destroy and clean up without having a bunch of random material flood your inventory and overall is just better. I actually have a tip for that starter set up you got there. Don't use belts for the research facilities. It takes longer for the items to reach the destination and start crafting which means there is some downtime, it also requires more sorters and belts using slightly more resources and power. Because of the space being used by the belts it's also less compact. On the other hand just directly inputting the items from the assemblers or if you want the chests is enough production to support 2 labs producing blue jello. Or if you want 1 with extra production to stock the chests. Though to meet copper production I suggest putting 2 sorters into the copper furnace since it's farther away from the ore. Overall from my experience just directly inputting the items into the lab uses less resources, is more compact, easier to destroy and clean up without having a bunch of random material flood your inventory and overall is just better. Also after getting the blue jello research steel smelting first. I highly suggest starting basic foundation automation as soon as possible. The sooner you get it and the longer you have it running in the background the more foundation you'll have to fill in the oceans as you're expanding. It's seriously amazing. The early game is alot harder without it.

[@TheDutchActuary]

Totally agree on the foundations, they run out QUICKLY if you're paving the planet even just a bit!

[@fpsmarcus]

I'm just here for a new series, not bothered that it's starter based!