FULL COCKPIT MOTION SIM! - Next Level Racing Motion Plus Review

With full-motion Sim Racing systems becoming more accessible for your home sim rig, there are now a number of different systems worth looking at. One of them is the Next Level Racing Motion Plus, which is a very neat and tidy package that will not look completely over the top in your living room or bedroom. It is still a substantial investment, so let's take a close look at this unit to see if it might be the best choice for you!
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TIME STAMPS:
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Intro: 0:00
Important Information: 0:30
How It Works: 1:14
Hardware Overview: 5:15
Look Inside: 8:19
Specs & Limitations: 11:27
Mounting and Initial Impressions: 12:16
Platform Manager Software: 14:33
Driving Experience: 24:04
Things We Like: 26:22
Things To Improve: 32:35
Conclusions: 37:27
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[@DirtRoadBoyz2]

I've learned more about sim equipment here more than anywhere else. I'm an old guy just getting back into racing games. I was a gt 3 beast back in the day lol.

[@TheDaveSanders]

Hey, me too - another old guy learning about this stuff and getting back into racing games.

[@connorestes9814]

i hope you find a nice rig/setup that fits your needs!! so cool to see everybody, no matter the age, getting more & more invested into sim racing. gaming isnt just for 14 year old boys playing after a long school day. its a real hobby and something that can be so fun, demanding and exciting. and theres sooo many innovations making it more & more immersive (and affordable for us normal people lol 😂). show those youngin‘s who really is the gt3 master lol!! cheers mate!

[@dano7480]

@@connorestes9814 I'm also a older guy getting into this and didn't realize how much stuff has involved over the years since the 90's lol. I just started watching this morning and very interested in getting back into it but pretty much computer illiterate and not sure where or how to get started. If you could be generous enough to give some advice or pointers on how and what to buy to get started. I'm guessing "rig" means your outfit/control's like a cockpit? I'm going to continue watching more videos like this and try to learn more about it all and what's all needed. I really appreciate any advice and I can't wait to get started. My wife and I both drag race cars so it would be awesome to find a drag racing game. Thanks again..Dan

[@Kevin_Cat]

Hi Will, I just wanted to say that I admire your honest (product) reviews. Pointing out the negatives next to the positives is definitely a reason for me to check out your reviews.

[@nicholasmarshall3191]

I bought one of those about a month ago. It is on the front of my Simlab P1X. I had to get a little creative to attach it, as the Simlab chassis was a few mil too wide. I already have the motion simulator for my seat. They work together very nicely and I am happy with the result. Plenty of movement, and Like Will, I turned the settings down quite a bit. As an example of how it feels, I love turn 1 at Brands Hatch. With this unit, you get to feel the sudden nose down and quick chassis movement up again, as you dip and then go up the hill. Puts a smile on my face! The only downside is that between the 2 units price wise, I could have come close to affording a top of the line dof system (Maybe?). I couldn't afford to pay out the large amount at one time for a top end dof system, so being able to buy the seat unit, and this one a year apart made it possible for me. So, overall I am very happy with this system, but my wallet is still feeling some pain. This was roughly $3700 US dollars. I bought the seat unit last year and it was around $2900 US. Thanks Will for a great review! Nice to see the internals are first rate gear.

[@boostedmedia]

Great real world feedback!

[@mercenarysaw]

Triples or VR? I'm running VR with a seat mover and wondering if it's worth getting both when using VR.

[@nicholasmarshall3191]

@@mercenarysaw Triples.

[@kangjames2492]

@@mercenarysaw VR

[@kangjames2492]

​@@boostedmedia Does the cockrock if you shake it or move it by hand while it's off?

[@XtreamStealth2010]

I must say Will, your reviews just keep getting better and better. Your honesty and attention to detail are top notch. When you opened this Next Level Racing Motion system blew me away. From the out side it looks a little cheap. But Wow, inside this thing looks like an F1 part and is even better equitment than the real world parts in my Challenger R/T. Great Review.

[@snake1144]

thanks a lot for the review, helps a lot to decide if to buy one. First one who explained the difference of front and back mount. Love your reviews

[@BernardWilkinson]

I am so glad I found this channel. Thank you.

[@mrpuggie2k7]

Really glad you did this video. Was hoping to see you review two of these one up front and one in the back. Definitely looking forward to seeing your review with the traction loss. That’s the goal for me. Two motion plus and traction loss.

[@YayDanMan]

Interesting little product there from NLR (and Motion Systems) - although 2 DoF for nearly A$5k sounds like a lot up front! Cheers for another quality review Will and Tom :)

[@Stonely1974]

All your reviews are detailed. Love it!

[@6strawb]

Built my own 4 actuators system at the beginning of the year (Fully DIY'd to my own design) and whilst I 100% agree it will not make you faster, that is only part of story. When I first sit in the rig for an evening racing (iRacing exclusively, I don't have the time to learn other sims as well) it used to take 30-40 mins to get within 0.5s of my previous evenings times, with the motion rig I often get within 0.5s by my third lap. Also I used to have moments where my brain would loose sync with with what the car was doing, a bit like it you were to pause a game half way around a corner then resume some time later and not know if you were sliding, how much steering lock was applied an so on. With the extra stream of feedback from the motion rig I no longer have those moments. It's not quite as simple as adding motion though, it took me around 50 hours to get comfortable with motion, for those first 50 hours it was just distracting and I dropped over 25% in iRating.

[@57uyo]

My Motion Plus has engine vibrations in Dirt Rally 2.0 - I definitely can feel very convincing engine vibration in every stage start. I have it in front, paired with V3 in back. Have 13 bass shakers in total, after adding motion plus did not needed the front ones so much any more. the back ones are filling very well the gap form using only one platform in front - both ends now feel the same. Have to say paired with V3 seat mover this is very good combination.

[@slappomatthew]

wow. I bet you are numb getting out of that vibrating contraption lol.

[@ericmstepp1]

@@slappomatthewhe can’t get his wife off his rig is what I heard. She always has a smile on her face when she does get off tho….

[@kerosinecircus263]

Another great review! Explained everything in such an easy to understand manner. Adding motion this year and on the fence whether to go 2dof or 3dof. Seems like this is a great piece of kit which could be greatly improved with software updates.

[@grayzedynamics]

As always good stuff. Watching your videos help me learn more about my presentation on my channel. Good stuff Will.

[@jamesjlopez]

Awesome job, was looking forward to this one

[@MaurizioGioli]

Nobody is as good as Will in making a detailed review of a piece of equipment no matter if it is a motion system or just a racing wheel. Thanks again! :)

[@stephan6486]

if you love Will, as i do to, you should also check out Sim Racing Garage

[@rdeh1678]

Maybe the only guy to compare to Barry Rowland from Sim racing garage

[@netlawman2001]

I think you point on being faster is right on point. One view is that information /immersion goes up in a motion system, but it is more challenging and speed goes down (At least for a while). Why? Because just as in a real car, you have to work through the effects of the environment, such as dealing with the shaking and movement, and gforces. Better said, in a real car, all of those things work against you….they are additional challenges to compensate for. What impresses me about real world race car drivers is that they are able to drive with pinpoint accuracy despite being thrown around, and subjected to vibration and g-forces. Sit in a static rig, and all that goes away. Other than what you get from steering wheel FFB, you are remain focused mostly on exercising your memory(memorization of the track), timing, and hand/eye coordination.

[@robwill7434]

Thanks will Looking forward to seeing it on the traction loss. Thanks

[@kyleschraw7600]

Thanks will. I just recieved this today, you convinced me to get the fgt elite and simucube 2 pro.

[@boostedmedia]

Enjoy! Let us know how you find it :)

[@antoniodrivegym6858]

Hi Will. Thanks for this review. Regarding the importance of motion in sim racing: have you ever raced with high tyre wear (4× or 5×)? In this condition any motion systems make you more consistent and less prone to mistakes since you can "sense" the car sliding lap after lap just a fraction of second before it happens. That's because you drive with 3 senses: vision, hands (feedback from the steering wheel), and your back/butt (pitch and roll from a motion system). In this context motion systems make the majority of drivers faster and more consistent. Running a racing center with motion simulators I experience this multiple times with different drivers. However this is not true for drivers that do not feel the car with their butt/back (25% of the drivers in my experience).

[@Pucis666]

Great review, as always. I will just counter that "Motion not making faster" argument with my story. I was running my SFX-100 with buttkicker gamer 2 for a while and was doing preparation for Bathurst race when my wife started to complain about buttkicker noise, so I was sad, but switched it off, but to my surprise, it made me faster in next lap, and in 3 laps I was doing a half a second faster, just because I was feeling more all the right clues from motion that were previously drowned by buttkickers "vibration noise". So correctly set up motion will make you "me" faster. And yes, less is more

[@boostedmedia]

That ties in with what I was saying towards the end of the video with there being an important distinction between things that add immersion and realism and things that are just giving you sensory overload or “noise”.

[@Pucis666]

@@boostedmedia Yes, that pretty much it

[@markkovalcson7243]

When tactile is done right it is completely natural and not noise. After I removed my NLRv3 motion system my lap times improved, but I have a full tactile system with powerful amps, DSP's, large BK-CT's and TST-429's as well as exciters on my seat. With the right profiles that creates immersion on the track that I would take over a motion system any day of the week. However for Rally and flight, motion makes a much larger difference to me and I have trouble driving Rally without motion.

[@pbodyjel87]

Where the weight restrictions ever discussed??? I remember hearing will mention something about it. But don't actually remember that conversation happening.

[@boostedmedia]

Yes it was covered

[@gabrielsorin5382]

Thanks, this was helpful. Also, in minute 9:40 you can see one of the screws from the vent coming off, you might want to check that.

[@McNickolson]

Hi Will, thanks for all the hard working showing us simarcing products with honesty! Do you have any idea, if they added engine vibrations in this platform?

[@MatthewMarshF1]

Another excellent video. Thanks! You are my go-to for analysis and advice. Question: what's your current view on a good headset/headphones?

[@copper44]

I just wish I could afford to upgrade to a cockpit let alone a full motion system like this

[@DEMON_CHILD709]

Thanks will for the honest review. Clarified a bunch! Cheers

[@vincentwillommet2779]

Thank you so much for an amazing review! Any recommendation if the unit should be mounted at the front or the back for F1 sim only? Thanks a lot! Vincent

[@davidgalaw9326]

i like your review, that's so detailled and we have the goods points and things to be improved ! When will you reveiw the new T1000 3 SV from Prosimu, it's seems to be a best deal with the rear traction loss incorporated and so silent 😮?

[@davidponsdesserre8366]

Great video will ! Thanks a lot

[@Airwreckgaming]

While i agree that consistency is very important, buying a motion or full motion system is not primarily bought because you want to be faster or more consistent. its more about immersion and having fun (imo atleast)

[@davidgalaw9326]

Agree and not with this remarks..... Motion is important for the driver : they need to have some reference point.... and for exemple the rear traction loss will give you this important information that a static simulator and wheel can't ! But (like in real), it's tiring to drive with the motion and it's the reason why some driver do best time with motion (generally real driver/pro-driver) and some don't..... But for sure : real and pro driver must and do training on motion simulator......

[@Airwreckgaming]

​@@davidgalaw9326 professional Drivers/Teams usually use Professional Sim Setups and these are way different to the ones we use, so comparing them is not really a good shout here

[@markkovalcson7243]

Completely agree! I removed my NLRv3 of 3.5 years and immediately improved my lap times, but although I also improved my time trial times in Dirt Rally 2.0, I found it was no longer fun to drive Rally without motion. I absolutely like having my seat mounted in a more solid way to my chassis. Currently waiting for my D-Box Gen5 and I'm hoping that it will add to the immersion without hurting performance as much.

[@davidgalaw9326]

@@markkovalcson7243 If you remove the motion, you are faster. If you decrease the force feedback, you will be better too :-) Some competition between simracer : guys remove the force feedback in order to be faster ..... In the same way if F1 pilot could remove the G force, and all physicals contrainst from cars : they will be faster too. Conclusion : what you are looking for ? 😀

[@markkovalcson7243]

@@davidgalaw9326 Immersion, obviously.

[@HighValueTargetRacing]

So with rear mounting, you basically introduced porpoise-ing to sim racing! 🏎. Great, thanks bud👍🏾😆😆

[@erikoddmundfostervoll2607]

Awsome reveiew. You are best👍😎

[@simonambo3681]

Long time boosted fan. Considered getting the sigma integrale for a while but the 4 piece setup comes in at around 10k aud including import taxes with the weak aussie dollar. Just took advantage of the Black friday deal plus the 5% discount. Still expensive but really want to try motion finally for the first time.

[@boostedmedia]

Let us know how you like it!

[@ninjawarrior4319]

Great video Will thanks. I’m really interested to get one of these and would love to see comparison of running 2 of these vs 1 and whether it would be worth it! My main games are ACC, DCS and MSFS 2020.

[@arnasn3710]

Thumbs up for opening it up !

[@fbmowner]

Thanks so much for your detailed review as usual. I have the opportunity to get 2 of these for 4k usd. I'm struggling on deciding whether to go with 2 of these or going dor a piston driven 3dof system. Ahhhh the frustration of decision making !!

[@brulaapgaapmeester8052]

It's probably nonsense, but those two moving rods supporting the whole thing seem a bit thin to me, not sure how that would hold up after a couple of years of use. But again, what do I know about material choices, it will most likely be fine. :-)

[@klelliott1984tm]

Hi will. Massive fan of you and your content. Your in depth reviews on all things sim racing keep me entertained for hours. I have a quick question. If I pair the motion plus with the V3 will that give me the feeling of acceleration/braking aswell as the bumps/jumps in the road? I'm really stuck on what to purchase to suit my needs. It needs to have a relatively small footprint but with the above mentioned forces at play. But I would also like to be able to mount triple screens (32's) to the entire rig so that it moves with the seat/wheel/pedals

[@boostedmedia]

I personally wasn’t a fan of combining this along with the seat mover.

[@avgustinzaikov8294]

This was a great review, but it does seem like half a motion system compared to other motion systems out there. Hence I was expecting the price to be around half. But it does cost $5000, which I do not understand when it really is a half of the normal motion rigs. This product will be much more competitive at between $2000-$3000. This is just my opinion, but seeing as you mentioned around 30 times in the video that this is 'quite expensive' and recommended that we look at other options currently on the market. You might share the same thoughts. Once again a great review where I did not feel pushed by the reviewer into buying a certain product. Looking forward to the next video!!

[@boostedmedia]

Not sure if you’ve reached the conclusion part of the video yet. But my opinion on that is explained pretty clearly there.

[@moderntouchdesignsbyrobgru4640]

Excellent review! Do you think this will work on PS5 if I used SIM Racing Studo 2.0?

[@scanx6163]

Are profiles working with assetto corsa content manager? Is it a good choice for a first motion simracing cockpit?

[@JMsoo]

Hi, thanks for your review. Do the plus have the same pitch and roll as the V3 heights? or is it less or more compared to the V3? I would like to use it for Flight Simulator thanks

[@doncam589]

I would like to see a long-term review.

[@Metla666]

Very fair assessment, One of the main reasons I bought mine is because it is a self-contained bolt on, and it was available locally. I run it at about 70 percent, have found that ACC has the most detailed movement in the sims I run but I generally run AMS2 more due to VR, and this device in sync with the wheel in a VR environment, just stunning. I don't buy gear with the intent to get faster, purchase equipment purely for the experience of using it.(I'm slow, I aint getting any faster).

[@Metla666]

also, I run the engine cut out at a high level, When it hits in the real world at high speed whether its on a bike or a car it always pops me right out of the zone with a decent mental impact, so I try and replicate that. You can also activate a profile so it always runs no matter how you launch the game, and some new software and firmware released just a few hours ago with more configuration options. One last thing, I mounted my screen directly to my rig when I installed the motion-simulator, just makes sense to me that what is essentially the windscreen would move along with the chassis....

[@Metla666]

@@drorzy_0485 I run mine in the front, Considering trying it on the back but I like the idea of it being in alignment with my screen.

[@jamesclewett8934]

@@Metla666 I'm still concerned about how loud the unit is during operation. Especially when he said he can hear it with headphones on. I race only in VR, so the speakers float above my ears. How would you describe how loud it is for you?

[@Metla666]

@@jamesclewett8934 Never noticed it when running a game. Either with a VR headset or speakers. Wife hasn't complained, and she sure made her concerns known when I was running a buttkicker.

[@jamesclewett8934]

@@Metla666 Glad to hear you're not hearing much. Does the motion plus rattle the house much? My rig is upstairs and I couldn't believe how much my buttshaker was rattling downstairs. Lol. Thanks for the reply!

[@SerialDriver]

I just ordered mine. Do you recommend to install it at the front or at the rear

[@charlielima]

I know these are made for the NLR rigs but for us that have made our own 8020 rigs it would be nice if they published the mounting distance from bolt hole to bolt hole on the provide brackets when they are mounted on the Motion Plus box. - With out this info, I am reluctant to purchase. Only measurement in the manual is of the box with a width of 458mm

[@boostedmedia]

The dimensions are all in the manual. We showed a screen grab of it in the video.

[@charlielima]

@@boostedmedia Not the ones I need - they don't show the width of the unit with the brackets fixed to the box.

[@gregmcdonald1021]

Did you like it better mounted under the wheel hub as opposed to under the seat as they have in the manual?

[@james22939]

This is so amazing

[@mortennielsen3016]

Really hope you choose to do the Traction Loss + 1 or preferably 2 Motion Plus units. I would love to hear your thoughts on the best combo NLR has to offer :) I have Traction Loss + V3 today and I am considering to replace the v3 with 2x Motion Plus.

[@michaelhuyer1479]

how do you like your system?i have the same,i want put a motion plus in the front with the V3 in the back

[@johnhu4466]

Hi~ will you review Yaw 2 VR? That one should be interesting. Thanks!

[@richarddunstall5870]

Hi mate, love your work! I've been looking at getting motion for my rig for a while but for the price every penny has to count 😅. Next Level seems to be the only one in th $5K bracket? DBox and Sigma seem to be at $7,350 and $8,500 for an entry level set up. Im Just curious if they are that much better? Or if i have missed somehwere that sells them at a better price? Ive never used a motion rig. Thanks mate.

[@MikaTarkela]

I have the NLR Wheelstand 2.0 with the Seat Add On attached to it. Is there any other similar priced motion system that could be used with my setup or should I just go with this product?

[@MaxJacuzzi]

Hi Will, waited for a proper review sine the announcement by NLR and as always you did a incredible job 👍🏻 regarding compatibility with other Aluminium profile rigs, how much 'diy' would it be to use the NLR plus with f.e. a P1X from your experience. Are we talking about a few more or other screws or are we likely talking about a bunch of adapter plates, winkles etc? The question of compatibility with my P1X holds me back the most at the moment ;)

[@boostedmedia]

I haven’t looked at how it would be bolted to the P1X specifically. But provided the unit isn’t too wide to fit under the rig, it should be as simple as just fabricating some L brackets of a sufficient width.

[@MaxJacuzzi]

@@boostedmedia thank you so much!!! Now only the financial invest holds me back, but this point gets weaker and weaker over time 😉

[@boostedmedia]

It’s a LOT of money to spend on immersion, but if you’ve already got great pedals, wheels, etc and you’re willing to spend the money I’m sure you’ll enjoy it. Definitely check out some other systems too though before you drop that much money.

[@rj8954]

Given the system is now at $3,000 (down from $5,000), would you recommend this over another motion system at a similar price point?

[@heath_1443]

Any news about that coolermaster Dbox gaming chair with haptics maybe that’s better than motion :/

[@devrox]

is it fast enough? it has only 1100mm/s2 acceleration compared to something like a dbox with about 9800mm/s2 (0.11 g to 1g)

[@Grittybenz]

You mentioned using it in the back instead of the front. So is it also able to provide the sensation of heive when used like this? or are the motors to weak?

[@boostedmedia]

No it gives a pretty convincing heave sensation when mounted under the rear, but it’s incidental in what it’s not actually processing heave telemetry and the rig is still physically pitching.

[@robertgreve8806]

.....I was wondering, is this product Motions Sim Plus worth the approx 35 % higher price, compared to Motion V3 ? I already have a NLR E-lite rig.

[@viperaddictcarfanatic6321]

What motion set up would you recommend for a ps5 set up? Looking to build one for under 5k

[@user-zq8jk8id6y]

Do you have to buy the games to be able to play it or can you just play it straight off platform manager cause my games don’t load

[@ivana6141]

Need actuators on the seat tha press up the side of body and but to simulate sustained gforce.

[@exponentialbet6292]

Thanks for the review Will, I'm interested in this for my GT Track. All other boxes ticked with wheel base, pedals etc. Could you tell me what the difference you experienced was when mounting it at the back instead of front please? You mentioned you'd cover it but think you may have forgotten. I'd prefer to mount mine at the back. Was the drive better, how did it stack up in comparison to having it under the pedals? Thanks again. Ryan

[@boostedmedia]

It was covered at the start of the conclusions.

[@exponentialbet6292]

@@boostedmedia At the stage he mentioned he'd try it and cover it, then near the end stated he had tried it and would discuss it before the end of the vid, and never did.

[@richardople]

Hey Will, with the lack of “engine vibration” as you mentioned in your negatives, could it be easily simulated with Buttkickers instead as a cost effective solution? Thank you for everything you do. Love from Canada 🇨🇦

[@boostedmedia]

True, but for the price I don’t think you should need to buy additional accessories and add additional complexity to achieve it.

[@richardople]

@@boostedmedia agreed, thank you for your insight!

[@kyleschraw7600]

@@boostedmedia how well does the software handle transducers? does it support multiple soundcards etc?

[@user-lz1zl7ng1f]

Hi, I would like to ask your opinion? I would like to have a butterkick in addition to the article you explained, my question is would it make sense to buy it or is the next level racing movement already fine?

[@FormerlyFamous]

Hi Will, would mind sharing what the differences are between the "Motion V3" and the "Motion Plus" platform? Do they provide the same sensations but in a different way or are they different sensations offered for each unit?

[@MikaTarkela]

I think he mentioned it in the video. The V3 is ”just” a seat mover when the Motion Plus moves the entire rig.

[@marcusbunce3406]

how about turning the drive unit around,, it would also give more through ventilation to the 2 vents behind the front aluminium extrusion,,, and a small awning over the vents etc front and back of pedal plates

[@boostedmedia]

Could be done but you’d have to reverse the motors or the motion will operate backwards.

[@marcusbunce3406]

@@boostedmedia 👍🏼 it was a thought because you commented that during software settings you flipped a setting.. ,,,,,, although totally agree 😁😄 a virtual slider was much easier 🤣😁 nice kit though,, keep making AWSOME content 👍🏼👍🏼👁👁

[@netlawman2001]

Are you ever going to review the dbox system you are using? At this point they have a new generation released.

[@boostedmedia]

We’re going to do a comparison with the new system.

[@carsonhovercar7685]

does it work with the next level DD + seat add on? (this is supposedly the same as a GT Track) I can't find any confirmation on the website

[@Thunderbolt0883]

It's a real step forward from the nlr v3motion?

[@KNARFNY]

The DK2 is 3-DOF, @ $5,145. If you go with 2 x Motion Plus, you're at $7,000, you're also at 3-DOF. You've got a 500-pound limit on the DK2 compared to 550-pounds on a single Motion Plus, not sure if that limit goes up with two Motion Plus? I think the major advantage with Next Level Racing is the fact that it supports nearly every 'motion' game known to man with constant updates rolled out, plus their VR support is second-to-none. I'd say the DK2 is lacking with support for less than ~15 games, especially considering the price. I guess it really depends on the user. I'm going from ATS, to iRacing, to Assetto Corsa. I'm kind of all over the place, which is why I love Next Level Racing. Thanks for this detailed review! 👍🏻

[@boostedmedia]

Weight limit remains the same if you add a second unit with the NLR system.

[@tigerfan525]

DK2+ is under $7k with 4 actuators and 800lb limit if you want to compare based on price.

[@Metla666]

DK2 system with 4 actuators is listed in Aus at $9300, and that's in Perth, which is a long way from anywhere. I looked at importing a system but after conversion and postage it was still nearly as expensive, and if it failed it would be too costly to get repaired.

[@jimaoua]

Can I put this one motion rig on my playseat F1 ?

[@na_wu]

How does this compare to H3 P3 DoF reality?

[@andyr3802]

Did I miss the bit where he compared the experience of having it fitted in the front or the back? What is the difference? Which is better?

[@boostedmedia]

Check the start of the conclusions chapter.

[@NoDepth]

@@boostedmedia Think it might have not made it in during editing? Cons chapter very briefly mentions you prefer placing in the rear of the rig but you stated you will go into actual detail during conclusions, but no mention again during conclusions chapter. Feel like any further discussion perhaps was accidentally left out at the end?

[@markthompson6123]

He said with it under the seat, you feel more Heave, so a straight up and down feeling. With it in the front, more of the nose of the car moving up and down. Also less lashing under the seat

[@kaomatollo]

Have you already done the 4dof?

[@kyleschraw7600]

Did I miss the part where will mentions how many mm of travel?

[@asd-du8dm]

Is this product better than v3 motion platform?

[@MrBinggy]

Thanks for this excellent review. If you had to choose one between the Next Level Racing Motion Plus and the Motion V3, which one would you go for? If it matters, it'll be used 80% for flight sims and 20% for sim racing and purely for the added immersion something like this gives.

[@kohcyrus3543]

Hi, I have the V3 and the motion plus on my rig. For me in flight sims (MS2020) the V3 is much better than the motion plus, in simracing (iracing) I would prefer the motion plus

[@MrBinggy]

@@kohcyrus3543 thanks for the reply. I won't get a better opinion than from someone like you who actually owns both! Can you please elaborate a bit more? What makes the V3 better than the Motion Plus for flight sims? I'm guessing it provides more movement? Btw, i have the SRS Shaker (thighs, butt and lower back) and might get a buttkicker for the pilot seat to help complete the experience.

[@kohcyrus3543]

@@MrBinggy Indeed, the more movement from the V3 is for the flight sim perfect to represent the g forces.

[@michaelhuyer1479]

@@kohcyrus3543 turbulence in FS2020 with the V3 is big ,big fun!!

[@thexrockefeller]

Do you use any kind of haptics in your rig like the buttkickers? Just debating if I want to go for a motion platform right away or start with haptics

[@boostedmedia]

On my dbox rig no not currently. Have a set of 4 Dayton BST-1 transducers we’re yet to test though.

[@thexrockefeller]

Awesome, can't wait to hear about that experience. Hopefully it can help me make a more informed decision for my own rig!

[@sp4ceinv4derz22]

Hey Will, would you recommend this if you already have the V3 Motion Platform?

[@boostedmedia]

I don’t have the seat mover anymore to test them together. But I can’t see any reason to run both. I’d sell the seat mover if you’re keen on this.

[@nikushasioma2273]

hello.i have a ps5 and fanatec csl elite..can i connect. And where to connect, please tell me

[@chrissanford754]

You should do some videos demonstrating how the motion platforms act, handle, and feel in BeamNG drive.

[@JBWRacing]

Here we go

[@Tom_Sclanders]

Can I ask where you bought your 3DOF DBOX system?

[@boostedmedia]

We got it though Simlab. Check our link in the description and on our website :)

[@DeePunter]

What about having 2 of these make it 3dof and compare it with something in the 10k range

[@boostedmedia]

It’s referenced in the video a few times. We don’t have a second or. So we can’t comment on the experience.

[@NoDepth]

Agreed on the lash. Recently moved from an NLR v3 seat mover to a new D-Box Gen 5 setup. As much as I loved the seat mover, the moment I switched over and hard mounted my seat again to my rig, I had an instant realization of just how much I missed being so stabilized within my seat. I do miss some added features of the NLR software compared to D-Box though, however obviously d-box has many advantages of its own. Had considered a pair of these over D-box for almost the same price, but decided on D-box for its own strengths.

[@markkovalcson7243]

LOL! I've got 3 people who seem to be reinforcing my next motion system now :) Seems likely just a matter of time. FYI, I've had an NLRv3 for over 3 years now and it does work remarkably well, but has a few drawbacks. 1. Brake pedal max pressure limit. Basically at about 70kg or so it will start to shut down on you mid race. So for Sprints limited to 60kg, not an issue. With my new Ultimate+'s, I currently have them set to 60kg. 2. Weight limits. I'm still below it's weight limit, but bigger guys may not be. 3. I know a few people who have had to send them back to be serviced and it seemed like a bit of effort. Most complained about long wait times, expensive shipping and being without their NLRv3 for a while. But they will fix it or help you to fix it yourself so you don't need to ship it. I know a couple people who did that and were happy with the results. Mine has been perfectly reliable. The software is super easy to use and configure. NLR supports a large number of titles. I've got mine setup for iRacing, ACC, RBR, Dirt Rally 2.0, Kart Kraft, and DCS. It sips power is pretty quiet etc..

[@single_cam9199]

Would this work with console, if it was hook up the same as gammer pro butt kicker?

[@boostedmedia]

No

[@jpharrier]

Would this motion system work with sim racing studios software? Or is it proprietary use with nlr software?

[@michaelhuyer1479]

only nlr software

[@jpharrier]

@MICHAEL HUYER ok awesome. Thanks!

[@TheElvenKeys]

i just switched my plan from Yawvr, to DOF reality, to this

[@MeachPango]

Love the video, but i cant wait for motion sim racing to become more affordable.

[@Kennebec27]

Does this work with a tr120?

[@PekaJuice3000]

What’s the best one for a cheap price !

[@ryangentzler5713]

Around the 5 minute mark he talks about the fact that motion systems cant replicate sustained G forces. Look into the Geko Systems GS-Cobra. That's exactly what that piece is designed to do. It looks and works very differently than any other motion system. I'm looking at combining that with something like this or a Simrig SR2 for a total immersion VR motion system

[@kostas8969]

Exactly , I own the previous model GS105 which if used with a motion platform is just a-ma-zing

[@englishpc1942]

Is this device compatible with the NLR TRACTION PLUS PLATFORM OR the NLR MOTION PLATFORM V3?

[@michaelhuyer1479]

yes you can also add a front and rear one on a traction plus with a V3 under your Seat

[@ronaldwoofer5024]

9:39 bruh one of the fan screws arent in all the way lmao

[@jordankelly4684]

Will this work in tandem with the traction loss system?

[@boostedmedia]

Yes. This is discussed in the video.

[@jordankelly4684]

@@boostedmedia sorry, I asked before I got to that part 😅

[@MrNobodylikesyou]

Think i might have to get a motion system, i think the immersion will be mind blowing! Just a shame console gamers dont get to experience this sort of thing!

[@mercenarysaw]

Ditch the console go PC you Will not regret it.

[@MrNobodylikesyou]

@@mercenarysaw I play on PC :)

[@michaelhuyer1479]

some motion system work with PS5

[@High.on.Life_DnB]

If I ever win the lottery, I'll get something like this.

[@travanti182]

Anybody know if this works with the gt track cockpit??

[@travanti182]

Nevermind...just got my answer.

[@RobertoOrtis]

Can you please do a video comparing best motions systems under $10k? I am trying to decide which one to buy. My budget is around 10k, it should include shipping and tax

[@meverett5327]

Not everything is about being faster. Some of us like the equipment because it is fun

[@aauda]

Would you consider reviewing motion plus with a dual units front and rear setup? More apple to apple comparison with DBox and others I believe.

[@boostedmedia]

We could, but at $10k AUD I can’t see myself being able to recommend it over other alternatives.

[@aauda]

@@boostedmedia thank you for the review and your swift reply. I see your point however cost aside I think it’s worth trying specially along with the V3. Pls check a couple of videos on my channel.