FULL HEARTHSTONE MERCENARIES COLLECTION for FREE: More friendly than Hearthstone!

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Hearthstone Mathematics

Hearthstone Mathematics

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@Kyotosomo
@Kyotosomo 3 жыл бұрын
You'll only get the massive influx of players that comes from a game launch once, so getting things right the first time so that you can retain those players is crucial to making sure your game maintains a high player count. I enjoy the game mode but I think it was a monumental mistake not letting this mode bake in the oven a little longer for another expansion or two.
@Wimikk
@Wimikk 3 жыл бұрын
*cries in duels*
@ukrainianhiphop
@ukrainianhiphop 3 жыл бұрын
I don't like anything EXCEPT standard 😜 ladder 😅⚠️ Best 👍💯✨🔥 ⚠️ game mode for fvcking))))
@Maximara
@Maximara 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't help the way Blizzard marketed was poor. It was largely "buy a pig in a poke" with the information they gave us. I got more information out of youtubers over 10 minutes than in the ramblely mess blizzard gave us.
@alexalke1417
@alexalke1417 3 жыл бұрын
They should disable coin collection for a character once it is maxed.
@wolololer
@wolololer 3 жыл бұрын
Just forget mercenaries if ure F2p, u have to grind 8hours a day for months, u better off just go to work and buy 100 packs, oh wait 100 pakcs dont mean nothing in mercenaries, what a shitshow this mode is. Ive done all the bounties and enjoyed lvl up diferent mercenaries, and grinded for a few days, but thtas it im out of mercenaries, theres no reward playing the game and its not fun to repeat the bounties neither pvp if u dont have all the mercenaries
@alexalke1417
@alexalke1417 3 жыл бұрын
@@wolololer You can pvp without all mercenaries but i have to admit it took me 2k gold and near 120h grinding to almost have them all at lvl30 with a few maxed already.
@wolololer
@wolololer 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexalke1417 how can i pvp if every vaiavle comp need atleast 2 legendaries and u only get 2
@mr.evil.meowmeow191
@mr.evil.meowmeow191 3 жыл бұрын
@@wolololer you dont need at least 2 legendaries trust me the strongest cards are actually rare and epic think its false than go ahead and get crushed in arena with your legendaries i will simply laugh out loud with mainly rare and epic mercenaries also the grind DEFINITELY isnt that long dk what you are smoking
@bL41sH
@bL41sH 3 жыл бұрын
@@wolololer u know that it is intantional that it is this grindy? and it is not even the grindiest "rough-like" game
@Xijor
@Xijor 3 жыл бұрын
I like the game mode, but I can completely understand why people wouldn’t. Hopefully they make it better over time.
@billibabkus1917
@billibabkus1917 3 жыл бұрын
sames I did a few grinds to 30 but am returning to normal already. Just doing my dailies for now. We´ll see how it goes, but it sure looks like everlasting grind
@fuoco1365
@fuoco1365 3 жыл бұрын
For me I like it but just can't play it for as long as I could battlegrounds. It gets boring too quick. However I haven't played the pvp much yet but still
@RickyMuzakki
@RickyMuzakki 3 жыл бұрын
@@fuoco1365 once you have 6 team of maxed level 30 mercs PvE climb to 8k MMR would be fun
@MrMoustachioo
@MrMoustachioo 3 жыл бұрын
Even if its not that hard to grind out the PvE to get the mercs you want, its extremely boring... At least in constructed I can have fun and earn stuff along the way, even if its less 'effective'
@yonatanc25
@yonatanc25 3 жыл бұрын
I agree I don't even have the legendary mercenaries I want and I don't want to spend money on Mercenaries. I'd rather play a construct a deck like aggro druid and just have some fun
@kenma877
@kenma877 3 жыл бұрын
Grinding is never fun....
@jasteni9744
@jasteni9744 3 жыл бұрын
Its more fun than to fight in standard or wild against aggro decks.
@dawgpost90
@dawgpost90 3 жыл бұрын
@@kenma877 Eh that depends on the person. Not for everyone sure. But grindy games exsist for a reason. Some people like the grind.
@Thanos1908
@Thanos1908 3 жыл бұрын
@@dawgpost90 Mercenaries are not the "good" kind of grind.
@bradencluster4739
@bradencluster4739 3 жыл бұрын
I've been looking forward to this video. Thank you for what you provide to the Hearthstone community.
@HearthstoneMathematics
@HearthstoneMathematics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks :]
@andrews5069
@andrews5069 3 жыл бұрын
I have played for many hours and the main problem of the game is the endless repeating grind. The worst thing about it is that you can't avoid the grind by buying packs. I wouldn't mind paying for packs if I could eventually get the mercenaries I want and upgrade them. I want to make Jaina and the only way I can do so is by spending 2 days grinding the same level at Blackrock
@DirEnGay
@DirEnGay 3 жыл бұрын
I was telling people all week and hardly any believed me that the only people that get screwed on this game are the ones that buy hundreds of packs lol. The game sucks and it's a MASSIVE grind regardless of if you bought 0 or 300 packs, right? You still have to grind tasks, get level 7 equip, get everything to 30 (not hard still a grind though) and even if you bought 300 packs you may still have to grind past task 7 to fully maximise all of the equips. My Saurfang just finished task 14 and he still needs maybe another 600 coins to be fully finished. The shortcut saved by buying packs is still held back by how broken PvP was initially and grinding PvE all day, and those that bought packs will realise in a couple of weeks or months that they have absolutely nothing to spend their 5,000+ excess Xyrella, Vol'jin and Samuro coins on.
@Hephaestus_God
@Hephaestus_God 3 жыл бұрын
if you don't mind grinding then it's totally possible to just get the characters you want. You can get coins relatively quickly for a specific hero. With legend being the most expensive to craft at 500 coins (which would take the longest). But it's not impossible and probably way faster than any other game mode. The only problem I have with the game is that the packs let you get skins before having all of the cards of that rarity. They should make it so you have to have all the rares to get rare skins... all the epics to get epic skins... and all the legends to get legend skins... It would suck to get a horrible legendary and the next pack get a skin for that legendary instead of a new one
@omegafr299
@omegafr299 3 жыл бұрын
me and my diamond Illidan cry X)
@Play_T87
@Play_T87 3 жыл бұрын
The skins should work like the golden cards. First define what merc you get and then a possibility that includes a skin. That possibility may be as rare as getting a shiny pokemon, but the mercenary collection should be secured first.
@catzblu999
@catzblu999 3 жыл бұрын
This comment didn't age well with the nerfs
@Hephaestus_God
@Hephaestus_God 3 жыл бұрын
@@catzblu999 true. But you can still farm relatively fast. There is a new farming spot discovered and you don't need to be on heroic. So it's about the same amount of time as the last
@Grimshal
@Grimshal 3 жыл бұрын
@@omegafr299 j'ai eu mal en lisant ça. après il est classe y a pire
@marleonka.
@marleonka. 3 жыл бұрын
The mode isn't that expensive. It's a PvE mode you can gradualy unlock stuff in. You don't have to unlock everything day one and the PvP is only a minor aspect of the gamemode. It's fun to play the PvP but it's not essential to have every single mercanary pumped up to play it unlike constructed
@flatlo
@flatlo 3 жыл бұрын
But the problem is that you have almost no freedom in what you get. If I wanted The Lich King for example, it’s could take months before the lootboxes unlock him, or I farm enough coins. You get a small selection at the start, sure. But get comfortable because you’ll be forced to use them for a long while :/
@marleonka.
@marleonka. 3 жыл бұрын
Well, you can look at the bounties and there's a set of hero coins dropping from each one. You can go after that bounty over and over again, especially in the Barrens and after a few runs, you can get the hero you desire. You won't have coins to upgrade it,but it works. That's how I got a few of my heroes already
@jonathanng7798
@jonathanng7798 3 жыл бұрын
Agree - I feel these days everyone just wants to get everything on day 1 and not think about long term.
@leander3656
@leander3656 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanng7798 I have been grinding the mode for 2 entire days and havent unlocked a single legendary or epic that I wanted. After putting in 15h+, 6k ranking, and 4 out of 5 PvE Stages you would think getting a single legandary would be fair.
@nicholasmanfrinato1876
@nicholasmanfrinato1876 3 жыл бұрын
@@leander3656 well, maybe you are doing sth wrong.. I got The legendary I wanted just farming the bounty in like 6hours
@Sifd
@Sifd 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when I played Runeterra for 3-4 months and then when I stopped I was like "Ok I got all the cards and I can unlock all the cards for the next 1-2 expansions for free right now"... And here comes blizzard and just because they are a colossus and people think that this is the only way they create games that need you to do 8 quests and 3 pvp wins per day for 4 months to get 90%-95% of the collection of just the current expansion... and people play this... and they continue doing it...
@tikussnorlax3544
@tikussnorlax3544 3 жыл бұрын
If the game was so great, why did you stop?
@Sifd
@Sifd 3 жыл бұрын
@@tikussnorlax3544 Burnout, like you will in this game :) Also started working so I had less free time.
@raver377
@raver377 3 жыл бұрын
2:35 wait merc stats get a bonus when you improve all spells and equipment? i didnt know that but heres something you probably didnt know: if you have two abilities of the same speed they will trigger in the order you put in, which ever ability you selected first will go off first
@TrueComboKing
@TrueComboKing 3 жыл бұрын
naw fam, it’s random.
@raver377
@raver377 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrueComboKing ah yes random, thats why when i played holy nova nuke with anduins nova and velens blessing at the same speed the blessing triggered first then the holy nova 50 times in a row over multiple games because its "random". its NOT random, maybe you misunderstood im not talking about when you put in an ability of speed 4 lets say and your OPONENT puts in an ability of speed 4 aswell THEN its random, but if YOU have 2 (or 3) mercs on YOUR BOARD and you put in abilities of the same speed the one you put in first will go off first.
@raver377
@raver377 3 жыл бұрын
tl:dr - speed ties with your OPONENT ARE RANDOM, speed ties between YOUR OWN MERC'S are NOT random
@kzelda3170
@kzelda3170 3 жыл бұрын
This game mode has a duplicate protection failing bug that you can open a legendary hero the same as the one from preorder, the one you opened can't be found or dusted and blizzard hasn't compensated people for the lost because of this bug. I can't believe they still make such kind of bug if it is not intentionally.
@TrueComboKing
@TrueComboKing 3 жыл бұрын
really? you can’t believe they’d leave a bug like that in? you give blizz too much credit.
@kzelda3170
@kzelda3170 3 жыл бұрын
They said it is not a bug, you can open another "general hero" skin after you bought the golden legendary hero preorder bundle. Haha, I can't believe blizzard punish people who actually buy preorder with such stupid design. It is totally a scam. Who need a general skin after they bought golden hero bundle. It wasn't clearly mentioned in the bundle.
@0hvist
@0hvist 3 жыл бұрын
"Extra Coins becoming Useless Numbers after you have completely upgraded everything for your mercenaries is a serious flaw." Amen sister! I have a fully upgraded Cariel and Blink Fox: with around 3,173 Mercenary Coins split between them both as of typing this comment...
@magnuslund22
@magnuslund22 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the Diablo pack for 50$ and I bought about 80 packs with some of my saved up gold, and I got the full collection.
@hyosangkil5303
@hyosangkil5303 3 жыл бұрын
But did you open any diamond portraits?
@magnuslund22
@magnuslund22 3 жыл бұрын
@@hyosangkil5303 I didnt but thats not important. I got all the characters and that is all that matters
@neapelflorenz4364
@neapelflorenz4364 3 жыл бұрын
@@magnuslund22 I just buy the normal bundle after merc comes out 20 packs 1 purple and 1 legend. I nearly have all too. And I had no gold as this comes out. I would say I have 80% of all mecs. Was in top 100 Europe. For me this is much cheaper than hs.
@TrueComboKing
@TrueComboKing 3 жыл бұрын
same here, I also got a ton of diamond portraits which blew my mind. I LOVE my diamond guldan
@MrLinguist88
@MrLinguist88 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool analysis!! I am a data analyst IRL myself, so i really appreciate the video! ;)
@Sinful_Survivor
@Sinful_Survivor 2 жыл бұрын
Omg at 1:14 when the Spider 🕷 showed up I was about to hit my Smartphone out of my hands ✋️ lol
@manyfriendedman4332
@manyfriendedman4332 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't have the hard numbers to substantiate my suspicion that the task questlines would pay for the majority of coins needed to complete your collection. Glad to see that over 70% is easily within reach. In addition to earning coins at the end of each bounty the entire mode looks easily completable given enough time
@PMMagro
@PMMagro 3 жыл бұрын
All coins are tied to ONE (1) mercenary. If you max it out there is no exchange like dust in HS. So harder to get and when you get it in big quantity no exchange/trade in...
@zhoppa
@zhoppa 3 жыл бұрын
sitting on 1500 extra coins for capped Xyrella, f2p, 0 legendaries crafted. this mode is messed up
@ralfbo685
@ralfbo685 3 жыл бұрын
How is that even possible? Are you just grinding one specific run?
@grzegorzjarocki7704
@grzegorzjarocki7704 3 жыл бұрын
How? 2 days ago i already crafted 1 leg and 2 epic merc while f2p
@dr4gon166
@dr4gon166 3 жыл бұрын
@@grzegorzjarocki7704 Luck fella............. iv'e been grinding the Anduin level for over 18 hours & only got 165 coins from it. However my Brucan is at lvl 3 for most stuff as all it seems to drop me is Brucan coins!
@grzegorzjarocki7704
@grzegorzjarocki7704 3 жыл бұрын
@@dr4gon166 i got lucky with pvp chests got maybe 150 malf coins and leveld up like 8merc to max level while grinding bots
@zhoppa
@zhoppa 3 жыл бұрын
@@ralfbo685 yep heroic number 3
@subaruisn1idol1stapostleof78
@subaruisn1idol1stapostleof78 3 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot to mention that skills and equipment scale very low from rank 3 to 5 so even If It's expensive to max everything It's not really a big improvement
@syrynx4454
@syrynx4454 3 жыл бұрын
thats the idea, otherwise this mode would be completly p2w.
@gabri-immortale
@gabri-immortale 3 жыл бұрын
@@syrynx4454 fake
@normal6483
@normal6483 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's because of the stat buff that comes with upgrading all of the abilities; they seem to think that the stat buff is significant enough to warrant upgrading all of the abilities.
@mitchmcnair4222
@mitchmcnair4222 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure I got super lucky. I decided to spend the five dollars on the release day bundle And bought a dozen or so packs. From my packs I got five out of six human characters which have made a fairly powerful team. I’ve cleared all the single player with it only struggling on blue bosses where I had to make a team with more green in it and it has proven quite effective in PVP as well.
@Wimikk
@Wimikk 3 жыл бұрын
I finally put together a Human team last night and it was so strong compared to the orc build I had been trying (without Saurfang lol) Congrats!
@TrueComboKing
@TrueComboKing 3 жыл бұрын
i think i got lucky too, got a lot of legendary mercs…like multiple legendary mercs in the same pack. A lot of diamond portraits too.
@Wimikk
@Wimikk 3 жыл бұрын
On Day 1, I was so disappointed in the mode. 500 coins just to craft a legendary? Or 40 dollars to roll the dice? A week later, just playing casually without trying to grind, I’m more than halfway to most legendaries that I’m missing. This is a very chill mode if you’re not paying for it.
@georgemoustakas4030
@georgemoustakas4030 3 жыл бұрын
I spent 15$ and I have all the legendaries except Alex. I have been playing a lot the last 4 days though. About 5-6hrs a day
@aladeen9031
@aladeen9031 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do vid on what packs to buy? I am confusion.
@flyrehash5124
@flyrehash5124 3 жыл бұрын
blizzard HATES him! see how one player saved $1200 by not touching this steaming pile of game mode
@n45hch2
@n45hch2 2 жыл бұрын
TW: 1️⃣:1️⃣5️⃣ - 1:21 there's a spider on the screen. As of the time writing this I don't know if there will be more. I only let the ending be clickable so people sensitive to spiders don't accidentally expose themselves to the trigger.
@syrynx4454
@syrynx4454 3 жыл бұрын
is not, what are we supposed to do with extra coins after we cap or how are supposed to get new mercs when instead of mercs we get portraits, 1 golden portrait would ve been enough but 3 c'mon.
@Daxos.eumesmo
@Daxos.eumesmo 3 жыл бұрын
The game for me is better than BG simply because no RNG at all...it all depends on skill...and that you can get everything out of the game if you have time to invest...however i agree with the creator's opinion of content''Tesdey`` ...where in redit he gave suggestions on how to make use of running coins and how not to make farming too dull in the game...and how to make heroic more valued.
@dr4gon166
@dr4gon166 3 жыл бұрын
You obviously haven't played much then as it's VERY RNG based. Every top deck has a speed tie on turn 1 or 2 that will instantly lose you the game if you don't hit it!
@Aijendo
@Aijendo 3 жыл бұрын
You can crit so its pretty much rng in HS or BG you have no Crits.
@luissantacruz3944
@luissantacruz3944 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aijendo but the crit is based specifically in the type of the mercenary, isn’t it?
@nicholasmanfrinato1876
@nicholasmanfrinato1876 3 жыл бұрын
@@luissantacruz3944 yeah… the crit in this game mode is the color advantage
@luissantacruz3944
@luissantacruz3944 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasmanfrinato1876 exactly! So that’s not really an RNG aspect.
@swaggafrog4762
@swaggafrog4762 3 жыл бұрын
one huge problem is on mobile (on my phone at least) i cant see what the AIs actions are
@Xijor
@Xijor 3 жыл бұрын
Literally press down on the enemy unit during your move selection phase.
@RealityRogue
@RealityRogue 3 жыл бұрын
@@Xijor They mean it shows OF SCREEN. Like it’s literally cut off and impossible to see.
@Play_T87
@Play_T87 3 жыл бұрын
I have my doubts about these times. If there is no duplicate protection on the rewards, you can play "forever" and not get the full set.
@04WELLYDEEP
@04WELLYDEEP 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't ore order any Merc packs, but spent $110 on 70 packs from the store. Along with the free packs I had about 80. The first 30 or so packs have me 6 legendarys, the last 40-50 packs gave me 3
@masterofpastakai5570
@masterofpastakai5570 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like expecting this game to be fair in any way is a surefire path to disappointment. I'm just glad the mechanics are good, but I agree in that it needs a serious visual overhaul. It feels like 60% of the board is left completely empty for no reason.
@ganymede19
@ganymede19 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I like the idea for the mode but it was very poorly executed 🙁 I'm curious how the release of new heroes is gunna work, will they come with more pve missions?
@thedeadbaby
@thedeadbaby 3 жыл бұрын
What do you do with extra mercenary shards? My xyrella is almost maxed out on equipment, levels, and abilities. Or do they just stop giving you those shards?
@Snuzzled
@Snuzzled 3 жыл бұрын
My only guess as to why portraits aren't craftable right now is they don't want to "trick" players into hoarding their coins for a chaser legendary portrait, when they could/should be upgrading spells and equipment instead. Hopefully later on we will be able to craft portraits.
@buyardent4me
@buyardent4me 3 жыл бұрын
awesome vid
@HearthstoneMathematics
@HearthstoneMathematics 3 жыл бұрын
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@Azaazbuka
@Azaazbuka 3 жыл бұрын
About the only thing I'd like to see about mercenaries is where to farm which coins. Is it random or are there specific bounties with certain coin pools?
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 3 жыл бұрын
go into one of the PVE stages (Barren, Felwood etc) click on a Level so the boss portrait shows up on the screen. under the portrait theres a reward chest. click on it. it'll show you 3 mercenaries you could earn coins for by defeating that boss. (typically its a random 1 of the 3.)
@jasonduncan7630
@jasonduncan7630 3 жыл бұрын
One change that could make it feel better is replace the coins with dust, but that would likely destroy the economy of the game if the numbers are not finetuned
@robertdascalu5498
@robertdascalu5498 3 жыл бұрын
oh no, i hate the dust system especially the 1600 cost for one legendary , and it also destroy your chances of crafting cards in standard so thats not a good ideea
@jasonduncan7630
@jasonduncan7630 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertdascalu5498 how would adding options to get and uses dust destroy the crafting
@robertdascalu5498
@robertdascalu5498 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonduncan7630 because they would have to get rid of the coins in order to make room for the dust , we are talking about blizzard here its either one in game currency/real money plus that idk about you but id rather grind some missions for 500 coins instead of having to collect 1600 dust for a legendary
@davidmorton6406
@davidmorton6406 3 жыл бұрын
Tl;dr - This mode is fun and very easy to grind. TBH i know people freak out about spending too much time to earn things in games , especially if they're 100% f2p. That said I personally wouldn't mind if it took a bit longer to get things earned. I'm f2p minus ~2000g in packs on day 1, and i've gotten all mercs except rag malf and ant atm. I'm a little behind on maxing out the mercs but I have 1 main comp that's pretty close to it while the mercs im not playing are around level 2 in their abilities. While awesome, the issue with this is, its been 1 week. What will I do a month from now when everything is maxed and there's nothing to earn. I also think this mode is pretty great ( its essentially just old school pokemon ), and therefore has room to be expanded on in the future to make it even better and synergies even more flexible. At this begining stage once you pick a synergy you want to play around there's so few mercs that you're kind of forced into a comp, kind of at least. If you want to play nature, well you have to have malf and brukan, with a flex spot to gruff or brightwing or maybe tyrande. In a team of 6 you may barely be able to fill it with nature dudes, most of the time you'll pick 3-4 and put none synergistic dudes for the last 2. So future game play will be even better when there's more mercs, so if you want to play nature you can pick 6 of maybe 25 different dudes who have nature abilities. (nature is a bad example as it and holy have the most users, frost or shadow are better examples) . I just hope that when we get the expansion stuff in the future there's either so many more mercs that it takes longer to earn everything or there's some added goal to achieve with them. Maybe new gear for existing mercs that only comes from the next PVE stage that's really really hard. That would be nice.
@mistix9599
@mistix9599 3 жыл бұрын
The mercenaries economy would be a lot better if u wouldn't be able to get skins til u got all mercenaries of that category. Like, how can I have all Grull skins and less than 50% epic mercenaries? WTF
@manyfriendedman4332
@manyfriendedman4332 3 жыл бұрын
It's because rolling a portrait in a pack is much more likely than an epic Merc, if the game determines you get a portrait it then rolls a random number generator to determine what rarity of skin you get, if all skins of that rarity have already been collected, it upgrades to the next rarity
@edwinrodriguez2553
@edwinrodriguez2553 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, I also believe if you can’t get the same merc twice why the fuck can we get the same portrait of the same merc multiple times , that’s just fucked up
@mistix9599
@mistix9599 3 жыл бұрын
@@manyfriendedman4332 As I know, the game decides first the rarity of the merc n then a random merc of that rarity. But if u already have that merc, then u get a random skin of that merc. When u have all the skins of that merc (n obviously the merc itself) u get 50 coins of that merc. So when u have more than the 50% of the mercs, it's more likely for u to get a skin n viceversa.
@chrisbryant6713
@chrisbryant6713 3 жыл бұрын
I grinded out coins as fast as I could with mysterious stranger and completing the quest for coins. I logged 3250 coins in 6 hours. A pack is worth less than 250 coins once you have all heros, let's call it 250 coin value. So 13 packs about. A pack is worth 100 gold, so 1,300 gold in six hours. Thats not bad! Even if you got 2500 coins a day, thats still 10 packs a day, 1000 packs in 100 days, and thats real value. How many hours do you have to grind in regular hearthstone to get 13 packs? Thats 26 levels on the rewards track. Im gonna bet its far longer than 6 hours! In addition to the 13 packs worth of value received in 6 hours you get experience points that push you down the hearthstone rewards track. I didn't keep track of how many in 6 hours, but thats extra value! Does anyone have any stats on average time to grind 1000 gold in regular hearthstone?
@andrews5069
@andrews5069 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, you get a lot of coins, no doubt about it. What are you going to do with these coins? You can fully upgrade some useless heroes. After a point in the game (which I reached in 3 days) you only need specific coins. In standard Hearthstone at least you can disenchant the cards you don't want (or have duplicates) and use the dust you get to craft something you actually want. While a pack sells for 100 gold, it is not worth that. It's like when you have a full collection in standard, a pack is only worth 40 dust, but in mercenaries it's not even worth that.
@monsieurm3989
@monsieurm3989 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter that most of the collection can be competed by doing mercenaries quest lines because you may only like 6 mercenaries out of 50. HUGE WASTE of coins that go to characters you don't like or want
@NapoleonSoares
@NapoleonSoares 3 жыл бұрын
...Isn't this also a problem in every card game ever then? You buy packs and the contents within them are completely random. This is like saying hearthstone is a bad game because you only like playing warrior and anytime you open non warrior cards it's a waste of gold.
@monsieurm3989
@monsieurm3989 3 жыл бұрын
@@NapoleonSoares with regular packs in standard or wild you can always disenchant any card you don't want. Therefore there is no wasted cards from regular packs and you can build up dust to create cards for your favorite class. Mercenaries has no crafting system making EVERYTHING received wasteful as they're for crap mercenaries only
@NapoleonSoares
@NapoleonSoares 3 жыл бұрын
@@monsieurm3989 If you are arguing in favor of the dust system, which might literally be the single worst card crafting system in the entire digital card game space, then we are going to have a really hard time seeing eye to eye on any conversation starter.
@monsieurm3989
@monsieurm3989 3 жыл бұрын
@@NapoleonSoares it is better than NO crafting system. Imigaine opening packs without the dust mechanic. No one would want to open packs
@NapoleonSoares
@NapoleonSoares 3 жыл бұрын
@@monsieurm3989 Except regular hearthstone has a hard cap on how many rewards you can gain from playing the game in a day whereas this game doesn't... at all. You acquire stuff way WAY faster in mercenaries than you do in regular hearthstone. Comparing the two is apples to oranges and it is crazy to prefer the constructed variant of acquiring cards imo.
@patriousthefallenknight3185
@patriousthefallenknight3185 3 жыл бұрын
i spent only 1600 gold on the packs, i am focusing on getting gold for the mini set and any extra gold i get will be to upgrade up campfire
@PeterPerson21
@PeterPerson21 3 жыл бұрын
This game and all of the talk around it is a wild ride...That I am very glad I am on...
@michael12345699
@michael12345699 3 жыл бұрын
What do they mean by improved mercs?
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 3 жыл бұрын
upgrading their abilities/equipment
@michael12345699
@michael12345699 3 жыл бұрын
@@penoyer79 yeah I learned if you max everything on the merc they get more stats
@JohnWilson-xn6ch
@JohnWilson-xn6ch 3 жыл бұрын
Did you mention that you can buys Mercenaries packs with Hearthstone gold?
@goober69er
@goober69er 3 жыл бұрын
They did but it was brief. They brought up that a merc pack cost the same as a regular pack but has less value inside
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 3 жыл бұрын
@@goober69er packs are fine just dont purchase/spend gold on them once you have all the mercs... this can be done with 150-170 packs... and even if you are missing any they will be within grinding range.
@goober69er
@goober69er 3 жыл бұрын
@@penoyer79 yeah I did get the preorders but they got me every merc but one or 2 so I haven’t had to spend any other irl money. To bad they just made task grinding a bit harvest though
@doritoisback
@doritoisback 3 жыл бұрын
Your bar at time 6:47 doesn't make sense. You say the complete collection needs 140,000 coins, but up to the merc tasks you have 141,700, but your bar isn't 100% filled up at that point.
@Zippo594
@Zippo594 3 жыл бұрын
Also if nerfs were to happen, there's currently no viable refund mechanism in place.
@likafoss
@likafoss 3 жыл бұрын
I have to say, as a BIG fan of 'gatcha' games, HS Mercenaries is by far the EASIEST to max out a team of heroes. You can get a decent PvE farming team and all 18 tasks done for them in just a couple days. Other games within this format take weeks, or months to max out 1 or 2 heroes.
@geosspow
@geosspow 3 жыл бұрын
Spend 0 on the shop, just missing Lich King and Diablo (both at 430-450 coins). BUT it is not a particularly easy trip, endless repeating grind can burn you down really really fast :/ I do not have to mention that if you spend that much coins to craft them, you have to grind the heroes AGAIN, for coins and levels and all abilities/equipments on level 1.
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 3 жыл бұрын
take your best 3 LVL 30 Mercs. put 3 Level 1 mercs on your bench. if you play through last stages of Felwood or the easier of the Level 30s - those level 1 mercs will go up to level 30 in 2-3 hours of gameplay.
@melkartpl
@melkartpl 3 жыл бұрын
I've played a lot f2p (i only bought invitation's packs). What should i do now i mercenaries ? PvP is boring for me. Okey, i can get 1-2 chest per day but what is the purpose ? Constructed is better and i get more. Should i play tousands of hours to check diablo's build (??) which can be beaten by juhiro ? it's no sense for me. Maybe i dont see the point but i dont see the future of this mode.
@mikedebois2566
@mikedebois2566 3 жыл бұрын
I have all the mercs; took me 120 packs and a little time grinding.
@dmcupitty
@dmcupitty 3 жыл бұрын
it has potential, i like it and enjoy playing it. I would like a more deterministic way of farming specific mercenaries
@kzelda3170
@kzelda3170 3 жыл бұрын
Another problem of this game mode is that it is not as fun or visible as hearthstone in terms of inspecting a game or watching the streams. I guess it because the battle system is too complex to know every character's abilities.
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 3 жыл бұрын
i love the complexity and i love watching good players trying to figure out what their opponent is going to do and how they are going to counter it.
@MyDaniel989
@MyDaniel989 3 жыл бұрын
For me it, should be that simple like 30 bucks to unlock all mercs for the expansion and then packs for coins if the player want to speed the process of grinding, but blizzard will never remove the gamble system, even with a 30 bucks preorder (half of a full game) a player will not have most of legendaries and epics to start having FUN with builds unless he grind a loooot even after paying money to craft them a, and more grind to lvl 30 and more to lvl up the skills and items...
@dandimit8463
@dandimit8463 3 жыл бұрын
I opened 175 packs and I have all the mercs, including legendaries. I didn’t have to craft any.
@thedeadbaby
@thedeadbaby 3 жыл бұрын
what did you do with the extra coins/shards?
@dandimit8463
@dandimit8463 3 жыл бұрын
@@thedeadbaby I’m slowly leveling up all the mercenaries.
@PKMNHUB
@PKMNHUB 3 жыл бұрын
i had to spend a benji for the full collection, now i just farm barrens level 10 heroic for quest.
@dall1786
@dall1786 3 жыл бұрын
Spending money is the absolute worst thing you should do for mercenaries it's just not worth it. You're better off just grinding specific spots for The mercenaries that you want and then crafting them and upgrading them. There's no pity timer on the packs so you can buy hundreds and hundreds of packs and you still won't get a full set
@reddre453
@reddre453 3 жыл бұрын
IMO standard HS is waaay better and I will stick to it
@OmarHamuy
@OmarHamuy 3 жыл бұрын
The way Blisard is working I think you’ll have to find new jobs soon, coment runeterra or lol 👍🏼
@kickassclone75
@kickassclone75 3 жыл бұрын
Please explain to me why you need more than one portrait for any of the mercenaries other than to say you have them? I opened 300 packs and got all the mercs and have 13 of them fully maxed and 20 at 30. I’m not spending another dime on this phase as it’s easy enough to bot coins all day. So other than buying the packs to get all the mercs , buying anymore is pointless because it would defeat the actual playing of the game . PvP is a joke and until they refine it there isn’t a need to even play it.
@goober69er
@goober69er 3 жыл бұрын
Pvp is good for leveling mercs. If you do 3 30s and 3 of any other level at the 6k plus rating you almost always get a bot.
@powerthroughfocus
@powerthroughfocus 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely bummed me out when Natalie seline “ transformed” but had no change in animation. Also all blue cards have same entrance, all red same, all green same. Would like to be able to only play one or two mercs at once as well instead of being forced to always drop 3 if available. I am enjoying the mode but I do hope it keeps improving.
@anthonyrivera8716
@anthonyrivera8716 3 жыл бұрын
I literally stopped playing Hearthstone all together after I saw the pre orders for mercenaries. I played the game since Old Gods.. but I refuse to spend another dollar on this game.
@anthonyrivera8716
@anthonyrivera8716 3 жыл бұрын
@gabriel raspatelly Look at you, how cool you must feel… did you had fun writing that lil comment lil guy?
@anthonyrivera8716
@anthonyrivera8716 3 жыл бұрын
@gabriel raspatelly ah you’re one of those… randomly commenting to stir up drama with your Cheeto covered fingers ready for anything. i get it, tell you what.. this will be my last comment so you can then reply and get that satisfaction you desperately need. sound good? go ahead ;)
@HighLanderPonyYT
@HighLanderPonyYT 3 жыл бұрын
Good, this shit ain't worth spending on Lol
@erdemden4903
@erdemden4903 3 жыл бұрын
Yeh exactly it looks like an alpha pre-released (even tough I like the game so much).
@kalacaska
@kalacaska 3 жыл бұрын
Mercenaries is extremely visually unappealing!
@boxingestilo2.341
@boxingestilo2.341 3 жыл бұрын
the problem with this guide is you dont need to upgrade all 3 equipment and spells...you just need to upgrade one equipment and 1 or 2 spells, you will find yourself during the game you really only use 1/2 spells for each merc for a specific comp set up. And more importantly you dont need to have the whole collection to have fun...build 2 solid comps that look fun to you and start pvping...you will enjoy it.
@BoutTime73
@BoutTime73 3 жыл бұрын
I'm oddball, I hope I don't get portrait at all. Don't help with new hero or skills
@maxlvledc
@maxlvledc 3 жыл бұрын
I call bs...I have full collection, no crafting and I bought 120 packs. I couldn't be that much of an outlier
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 3 жыл бұрын
i completed my collection with about 150ish packs. the rest is just being smart with what you choose to upgrade with each merc
@HighLanderPonyYT
@HighLanderPonyYT 3 жыл бұрын
A simple fix they won't do is making the coins universal. Also, I find it funny when people say "I've all the mercs, was easy". Please, just getting them is the tip of the iceberg, the real grind comes when you start maxing them.
@pensivepen5928
@pensivepen5928 3 жыл бұрын
1.19 looks like a real spider on my screen
@migueltescaro8222
@migueltescaro8222 3 жыл бұрын
So mercenaries is p2w if you pay, and f2p if you play.
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 3 жыл бұрын
the game is play to win. (you get out of it what you put into it time wise) the trick is getting the most out of the Mercenaries you have. instead of whining and crying about what you don't have.
@alexvibeschina5941
@alexvibeschina5941 3 жыл бұрын
*_A like new mode and your dope videos! Hello from China! 你好_*
@yourdoom9868
@yourdoom9868 3 жыл бұрын
Isnt yt banned in China
@alexvibeschina5941
@alexvibeschina5941 3 жыл бұрын
@@yourdoom9868 banned, and?
@TrueComboKing
@TrueComboKing 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda like this game mode. I spent $100 (same as I would for a new expansion on runeterra, tbh) and ended up getting all mercenaries except for anduin, thrall and illidan.
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 3 жыл бұрын
funny, anduin and Thrall were the last two mercs i needed.... and they were among the last 3 mercs that TrumpSC needed.
@TrueComboKing
@TrueComboKing 3 жыл бұрын
@@penoyer79 it's a conspiracy, I tell you! XD
@04WELLYDEEP
@04WELLYDEEP 3 жыл бұрын
People need to remember that this mode is basically rng aswell, same as other modes. It all comes down to who has a counter to the other person. You don't need every hero abolility maxed, just need a well thought out starting three and some good luck
@dragonhuman6484
@dragonhuman6484 3 жыл бұрын
This was a nice video that explained things quite well for the game mode. While everyone is goign for free publicity for bashing Blizzard you are analzying things. And heres to hoping for more content.
@LinwoodLTHR
@LinwoodLTHR 3 жыл бұрын
Wait.. you get 3 packs when you completey 18 tasks from 1 mercenary?
@HearthstoneMathematics
@HearthstoneMathematics 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! :]
@LinwoodLTHR
@LinwoodLTHR 3 жыл бұрын
@@HearthstoneMathematics I can't remember if this was mentioned in the video, but I just learned that Mercs get a stat boost if you have all abilities and equipment at full level. Tavish just got a +1/+5 to his stats, making him a 7/83 istead of a 6/78
@robertrubas2634
@robertrubas2634 3 жыл бұрын
Playing only single player, i feel like the progression is far too fast even, but most people probably want to play pvp only, so that's useless.
@StoneKnight1
@StoneKnight1 3 жыл бұрын
they might as well put those in battlenet client
@Erhogz
@Erhogz 3 жыл бұрын
Getting a full collection of mercenaries itselves aren't that hard but getting their equip and skills to max are required insane amount of time or money.
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 3 жыл бұрын
you dont need all that. most mercs have abilities/equipment that you can ignore. Xyrella for instance... all you need to do is max out Blinding Luminance and the Wand equip. the rest you can worry about later.
@Erhogz
@Erhogz 3 жыл бұрын
@@penoyer79 Sure I'm agree with this. But most mercs need 2 skills maxed + one of equipment too. Some are all 3 skills(casters mostly). Anyway, even 2 skills maxed + equipment is a pretty big amount of coins needed to farm.
@kzelda3170
@kzelda3170 3 жыл бұрын
Saw a guy on KZbin opened 500 packs without getting 1 diamond skin. LoL
@Jesuismonte
@Jesuismonte 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the mode, and I was happy to pull 3 legendary mercs in the free packs (diablo, guldan and alex). But man it gets boring after some runs. Specially when you want to try fresh new parties. The same fights over and over again kinda kills the fun. For me at last, its way too grindy, and man, I grew up playing ragnarok online...
@TrueComboKing
@TrueComboKing 3 жыл бұрын
guldan is so damn good
@sem8389
@sem8389 3 жыл бұрын
I packed 12 portraits in a row and i quit due to a broken pc screen
@000eLPate000
@000eLPate000 3 жыл бұрын
I grinded 1 week, spent 90 bucks on the gamemode. I need 5 legends and collection is full. I am currently almost top 200 pvp. With time I’ll max out my comps. So I really don’t get all the hype around this game beim so expensive lol spent more time playing and enjoying this game instead of complaining bout some bucks
@yive813
@yive813 3 жыл бұрын
I dont understand the hate in Mercenaries: all hs-Community was flaming on Blizzard, because u cant rly play clasic HS without paying. Now we have a Mode, that is just made for the looting and lvling fun and People now flame that its unpayeble, even tho the mode is easier to get free. I guess hs fricked up the paying concept so much, only Players willing to pay stayed and they cant handle free to Play Games....
@marcuslobo5765
@marcuslobo5765 3 жыл бұрын
I think mercinaries is quite fair. It's just that this genre of gatcha game is fundamentally unfair so ofcourse its font to be way more cash grabby than any other hearthstone mode
@emonymph6911
@emonymph6911 3 жыл бұрын
The economy is fair, as you guys said you can unlock 73% of all points required just from playing the game. Like why do you guys want to unlock 100% on 1day, first second... That's so dumb there is no point to play then if you have finished from the start.
@Neutrinos6
@Neutrinos6 3 жыл бұрын
im only a constructed player i don't care about merceneries i wil just unlock it by my self for free when im in the mood of playing that im safing all gold quest each 6 months there when new cards coming.
@Creationweek
@Creationweek 3 жыл бұрын
I like that it is super free to play friendly but really milks whales. I bought the $5 bundle and opened around 40 packs total. I have played every day. I am only missing Ragnaros lichking sylvanas and guldan. I only need 25 more coins to craft guldan and am around 350 coins for the others. I expect to get all the mercs by the end of the weekend.
@Shakounet02
@Shakounet02 3 жыл бұрын
lol 0:10 he says stormwine
@longdongchinchong
@longdongchinchong 3 жыл бұрын
It says "at least 1 rare each pack', so coins basicaly are common, even for epic/legendary mercs. SO why would they even made it hero-bind coins? Why not just Coins like dust in TRADITIONAL hs? I've already maxed 4 heroes and now have ~6k dead coins for them just because there is no duplicate protection for coin. This game mod had so big potential, but lost it just because of this crap economy (lets be honest - this mode was made just for money, because Blizz dont want to repeat the failure with clearly f2p Battlegrounds)
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 3 жыл бұрын
meh. this video is misleading. you dont need to worry about all the abilities, all the mercs, all the equip. that's crazy. just slam Xyrella and Samuro in your comp (they're free and they're bad ass) - get enough packs to open Tavish and Varden (they're both rares if im not mistaken) then fill it out your lineup with the best of what you have left and go level the shit out of them. focus upgrade 1 ability and 1 equipment for each merc. worry about the rest later.
@Paladinbaroque
@Paladinbaroque 3 жыл бұрын
I stopped playing hearthstone when LoR came out, occasionally checked in but less and less - belows is long; tdlr: From this I've no desire to look into mercenaries. Gave HS far too much money just to make decks I wanted in those creative first couple weeks of new cards. That's always my favourite time to play. With LoR I played loads at launch and earnt a lot of currency to pretty much make the first few new decks I wanted to try and play from there. I feel like my time has been respected from LoR. With HS, I don't really feel that at all - and I loved HS since it's first beta. It's a shame. LoR is releasing an update to its PvE content next month, I'm still playing through the current ones - had their bugs but I've really enjoyed and am excited for more. In watching this whilst considering trying mercenaries, I feel I'd probably like playing, end up spending money - (addictive tenancies n shit, HS preyed on that shit, another reason I stopped) - and quickly feel shitty about it before moving onto LoR or all the other games coming out. Thank yous for the video. Your content has always been delightful and informative ^^ Stay safe and take care folks
@elliotyoung8760
@elliotyoung8760 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno about this game mode, to me it is just incredibly boring. Even the PvP idk why but im just not into the type of combat. its just so different from the original hearthstone. And I am glad that they made it completely separate so they dont make me feel like im being forced to play so I dont miss out on hearthstone rewards
@nik1maxim
@nik1maxim 3 жыл бұрын
I hate how you can get coins for mercenary even if you max out every skill and item
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 3 жыл бұрын
it's annoying but they did say they will be adding more stuff into the game for your maxed out mercs to spend their coin on.
@newergamer7974
@newergamer7974 3 жыл бұрын
I like it and if it gets boring when I play it I just can switch too a other mode of play something else lmao
@DK3Plays
@DK3Plays 3 жыл бұрын
I was able to get all mercs with 130 packs.
@reyas111
@reyas111 3 жыл бұрын
Is there legendary dupe protection?
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 3 жыл бұрын
@@reyas111 duplicate protection is in place for all rarities just like standard.
@shoresy6927
@shoresy6927 3 жыл бұрын
I hate getting legendary coins and skins. It really feels like an Overwatch loot crate.
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 3 жыл бұрын
thats because you are used to Hearthstone packs with 5 cards in them. but in hearthstone you have 135 cards and most of them you need doubles of. there's only 51 mercenaries...and they are all 1 ofs. so packs naturally aren't going to be as exciting...but you're getting roughly the same thing on a much smaller scale
@bjarkerugsted7539
@bjarkerugsted7539 3 жыл бұрын
it is so expensive and grindy... was fun enough the two first days but im already over it..
@Daxos.eumesmo
@Daxos.eumesmo 3 жыл бұрын
What about the game's economy ...only those who have the money to speed up the journey and skip farming spend in the game,,I think it's fair (except for the fact that you can earn legendary skins before you have them all..what it confuses me so far if it took me an extra legendary or not...I won 3 uter kekwu)
@MrStagow
@MrStagow 3 жыл бұрын
You can get an alternate legendary skin even when you're missing other legenaries. So yeah, the 2 extra uther skins could have been missing legendaries instead
@antoinethibierge9418
@antoinethibierge9418 3 жыл бұрын
The board… I agree so much : it is disappointing : the game looks cheap just because of that !
@ShiroNikku
@ShiroNikku 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I didn't start.
@novakrabby
@novakrabby 3 жыл бұрын
Too late dude I already forfeit my soul to the: 🅱️ancient one!!! Gruul will come for me any minute now
@yonatanc25
@yonatanc25 3 жыл бұрын
Brother now is the best time to quit this bulshit game a week has passed and I'm sure you're not that invested in it unless you pre-ordered
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