FULL INTERVIEW with Northern Cape Premier, Dr Zamani Saul | Carte Blanche | M-Net

On Sunday 12 May, Carte Blanche aired a story showcasing the various broken promises across the Northern Cape. From incomplete projects to failing infrastructure, there was a lot to cover. Following our insert, the province's Premier, Dr Zamani Saul, took issue with how he was being portrayed and requested that the full exchange between himself and Carte Blanche presenter, Govan Whittles, be made available.
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[@thembaspiritmabuza8753]

I have just one advice for these people .... VOTE THE ANC OUT! Simple as that.

[@NinohBrown]

ANC will be out on the 28 of May 2024 its the end of the 6th administration. They can only be voted in for the 7th admin Who should the people vote in? If not ANC

[@boerinbeton7052]

@@NinohBrown We will see with the IQ test on the 28th of May

[@dgraham1949]

This premier is not a leader's backside. The ANC is run this country into the ground. If they stay in power without making provision for the future it is a typical African mindset. If it works keep it running into the ground. ESCOME was the same. I worked in Africa for several years, DRC in Kalemie railway was working fine in 1960's after independence it is non functional....

[@samkelombebe6400]

​@@NinohBrown EFF

[@DumaM-ir7rk]

I can see that I don’t care attitude on the premier

[@BOBBY-et9xb]

The infrastructure worked for 60years with no issues. If your excuse is for 16000 and now 72000 than why did you not improve the infrastructure accordingly.

[@sharontarin1310]

Absolutely. We have taps, toilets and 💩 running down the street.

[@rrekomane9631]

While people wait to be connected to get water?

[@user-wc1pf3nh6h]

Don't bother with these clowns because you will only get brain freez

[@traintravellearninafrica9670]

If you listen carefully, Dr Saul just the connection of previously disadvantageous groups is what is causing this issue, which means there are nuisances, and one wonders why the sewer system isn't larger enough to meet the demands, just as the ANC prides itself on connecting people to the grid but does not build more power plants at Eskom. You build more infrastructure with more users, so you see the guy has at least nine cars parked in the yard. If you asked him, he would probably tell you that the number of drivers in his household increased, so he has more cars, but he doesn't apply the same logic to public service delivery.

[@esahm373]

The infrastructure worked for 60 years, but you failed to mention that it really did only work for 10% of the population. Our post-1994 democracy is about integrating the other 90% of South Africans, that have previously been violently disenfranchised.

[@siyandaprice4474]

“Then I have a fundamental problem with your thinking” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Govan wasn’t prepared for this

[@user-wd8po2nf5y]

Leaders in Kimberley and the broader Northern Cape enjoy the unique privilege of very little scrutiny from national media, and they get very comfortable. Please do more work in the region, John Block is one of many. The people deserve it.

[@bontle4157]

The fact that he is making reference to 1994 is absolutely embarrassing......They've being in office for a full 30 years yet he still refers to pre 1994 infrastructure, this is disgusting 🤮🤮🤮

[@phillipsugwas]

That is precisely where the questioner could have been better prepared

[@lutendomulaudzi3301]

It doesn't add up but atleast there is lot to learn if you can read between the line

[@thembaspiritmabuza8753]

What has the ANC government done since 1994?

[@mossfairy3060]

Fokall.. the proofs in the pudding

[@user-tu9vl7gs4m]

You should have improved the place. You had 30 years

[@sharontarin1310]

Lined back pockets.

[@geraldinemichael2084]

Just lies and buying cars and suits and conning the poor people

[@boerinbeton7052]

Changing town names and buying expensive car will really help the people of this country. What more should the cANCer do? Apartheid did not teach them what to do?

[@alfredwebster8031]

How can you link 72 000 conections to a line designed for 16 000 conections. Logic dictates first enlarge the line.

[@velimasuku8808]

Let's start there

[@sharontarin1310]

😆😆

[@veronicakarstel9126]

30% for matric, cant do basic maths

[@manero7634]

Logic and ANC do not mix

[@destyvandermerwe8722]

What's alarming is that we still rely on infrastructure constructed in 1947 lol... what have they been doing to improve it since then. Pathetic

[@albertomeyer11]

Outgoing Premiere

[@kennethvanana3222]

The grip this Premier had on this interview....He handled it well and he kept his control over Govan.

[@mossfairy3060]

Just look at his wealth and statues, in the mean time he is A CIVIL SERVANT.. giving No fucs for the people

[@nomalungelongcete5875]

Yhooo it's so sad 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@BOBBY-et9xb]

What doctors degree does he have.

[@veronicakarstel9126]

designer suits

[@geraldinemichael2084]

​@@veronicakarstel9126disgusting 🤢 they lie and blame apartheid all the time

[@vusidumisanimiya994]

The Premier is evasive and jokingly at the same time, while people are waiting for service . They should have said to people the won't meet they demand but give them statistic towards the elections

[@jasondelacy737]

Useless ANC Disgusting!!!!

[@duncannapier318]

If I don’t service my 2nd hand car I’ll just blame it on the previous owner. Thanks for the tip. 👍🇿🇦

[@prettygirlsloveposeidon5755]

Haha basically 😂

[@onkgopotsekeobaka7680]

A so-called civil servant is transported, together with armed guards, in a luxurious Audi Q8 which costs at least R1.8m. A huge scam.

[@user-wd8po2nf5y]

Not a Q8 but point taken.

[@lm_b5080]

in european countries the politicians take public transport. the netherlands prime minister rides a bicycle to work

[@CrashingCars2030]

@@user-wd8po2nf5y it is a Q8 btw

[@sallynhlanhla]

Actually Dr Saul in particular insisted on not having blue light brigade. Let's be objective in our analysis everyone. We don't have to like the ANC, but let's be objective with our analysis.

[@omolemo4160]

Dr Saul stayes in a township and rejected blue lights. And thats not a Q8. Let's be honest.

[@Tina_Matamela]

It’s been 4 years since I’ve been in Kimberley, there has been no change whatsoever about the sewage. It stinks

[@rosenaidoo7594]

Great work Carte Blanche 🎉..these guys need to be showed to the world

[@t_dubois]

Govan's debate performance was lacking, but as viewers, we're growing tired of the ANC's excuses, so we'll overlook it. The premier made valid points, but they seemed to arise from the poor line of questioning and lack of preparation, which overshadowed his arguments. It's clear the team needs to step up. The real problem lies in the government's tendency to fund ideas without proper planning. Prioritising ideas solely for voter appeal is irresponsible. It's time for more responsible governance centered on thorough planning and thoughtful decision-making. NHI is the next thing to suffer from this

[@UnitedLoyalist]

He was being addressed as a resident to give his opinion on what he is experiencing. Instead he went on the defensive about a municipality being scapegoated for a "narrative". A municipality he is a resident of! And 1 he must be at the bare minimum, expected to hold accountable! This not on the team

[@boingotlomoheta7002]

Lacking is an understatement, it was weak!

[@KokiPoohwee]

Indeed Govan did this interview injustice, he was bamboozelled which is a shame because the premier was there for the picking/taking.

[@kimmacputz]

He spoke over him most of the time, never really gave him a chance and the Premier was so defensive and focused on making excuses and making it a race problem that he actually avoided answering the actual questions being asked. It's so old, these people need to go, they haven't a clue

[@lucianodenobrega5319]

Gave us time to look at the primer wealth of luxury cars that was in the background. Money going to his pocket instead of problems that needs to be sorted out

[@user-vl1mq7ww5n]

Look at all his cars behind him, that's nothing to be proud about!!

[@KLM_ZA]

Pure greed and corruption! Just plain evil!

[@jeremyrogers4839]

Well played Govan!

[@chapter9363]

He is trying to be defensive 😢

[@nomalungelongcete5875]

Mhmmmmm

[@user-cb3ic6ko7u]

Listen up kids, this is an educational gem of how many times can you say the same thing but differently, while avoiding any question thrown at you

[@LekkerHubby]

So 30 years wasn't enough to address the issues that arose with connecting the previously disconnected households to the network. Now that you are aware of the issue, how many more years do you need?

[@sharontarin1310]

And how much more budget?

[@sabeloskosana566]

You heard the man, it can take even 500 years.

[@beirijohnmolelekoa4940]

500 years

[@operationshub2163]

Think he waa clear... need another 500 years

[@MrMachineGun1RSA]

The Mayor knows his story 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂😂😂

[@paballobutelezi5532]

Premier, howzit? Govan 😂

[@dgraham1949]

Moet nie witvoet soek nie

[@molefe7972]

Wealthy chap got ambushed by Govan😂😂👌Pls let's Vote these guys out🙏🙏🙏

[@lucianodenobrega5319]

Govan just had time to spare to show the world that he lives in absolute luxury and doesn't give a thing for the people

[@molefe7972]

@@lucianodenobrega5319 exactly 💯🤣🤣The chap was so agitated 🤣

[@albertomeyer11]

72000 on 16000, 30 years later. Sol Plaatjie has been stolen bankrupt 😢

[@feliciaswart1218]

What a chop.... read from the script.... just read from the script.... Also, remember to completely dodge the question

[@user-tu9vl7gs4m]

The Premier is not in touch. Is in denial. Is forgetful, cares about his suit. Leave him.

[@simbalion84801]

how do you say he is out of touch when he actually lives in the affected area

[@UnitedLoyalist]

​@@simbalion84801because the least he can do is make sure the darned municipality is held accountable! It's not that difficult to understand

[@andrewswales1042]

Check the luxury cars

[@sihletngcobo]

When he came to office he claimed he is not going to use the budget for the premiers fleet. But I see he is rolling high with German cars

[@veronicakarstel9126]

@@sihletngcobo colonian cars, they love them

[@omolemo4160]

He doesn't have blue lights. He rejected them. He's using his own money to purchase the cars. He stays in the township with the people. Let's be real.

[@andilemxotwa8356]

The main issue is that if you had the right people running the treatment system, they would have pointed out that you need to increase the capacity. The fact that no one said anything means that those people are not doing their job. And if they are not doing their job, they should not be there. Get the right people to do the right thing. Please do the right thing so we can all have the right environment. Yes, we appreciate that the "previously disadvantage" were connected to the system. But we must not after 20 years of connecting them and having a system that is disintegrating make them an excuse for not doing our job.

[@BuhleMpakama]

Who are the right people Sir? Old white men that ran the system in 80's? Same narrative that was pushed on Eskom. Municipalities employ competent Engineers, Artisans, Managers, etc. Perhaps you should spend a day in the maintenance department to see if everyone goes to work to sleep. Equip yourself with the right information before you reach your conclusion.

[@travis9611]

The argument that Eskom is struggling because there are more people connected is a joke.. Eskom in 92 made more electricity than it does now so? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@veronicakarstel9126]

stunted brain growths, no protein so brain cells didnt grow. 27% of SA kids have stunted brain growth syndrome. No ANC schools for these stunted growth kids, so no future for them, just another useless eater.

[@drivewithmat]

Hi Travis, don’t take this the wrong way. Go and read between page 40 and 52 of the Eskom white paper. You might look at things from a different perspective. Here’s another example, if you plug all your household appliances on one plug, extensions, chargers etc, what’s gonna happen? Isn’t it gonna overheat? I mean simple physics talks about such things and how current flows. Different wire thicknesses, length etc. Easy to understand. The infrastructure should’ve been upgraded a long time ago had many of the recommendations been implemented. In our neighbourhoods, one pole had 4 wires to four houses for example. People, because they know better, went on to connect 11 more cables because there are backrooms etc. Back to that plug example… aren’t we overloading the transformer? I think it’s simple according to me.

[@truebluedots4776]

Shifting blame game again...

[@cheesecakecartel5022]

Is he speaking facts though?

[@truebluedots4776]

@@cheesecakecartel5022 He speaks twaddle and no action. What not upgrading infrastructure... building&building more homes connected to lines knowing its a strain on the system and it can't maintain it,& still not upgrading absolute necessity infrastructure first to maintain it all before building more homes.. so in his case it's a "oh well" it has nowhere to go reservoirs to small blablaa, so for now it's off run whenever it lands.

[@truebluedots4776]

@@cheesecakecartel5022 What do you think?

[@marlonlangford3573]

Shifting of blame is amazing in the country

[@gxobinjasambemntungwa9694]

He looks like Nigerians 😂😂

[@user-uq8kb4xp4f]

Might be ...like who is this guy ? !

[@bonganibam4402]

😂 You're out of order chair

[@gxobinjasambemntungwa9694]

@@bonganibam4402 😂😂😂

[@gxobinjasambemntungwa9694]

@@user-uq8kb4xp4f Zamani Saul

[@monicakieck7501]

Spend billions on cars and rolex watches instead of fixing the country; tenderpreneurship destroyed SA 😢

[@Larry4867]

Dr Zamani Saul mumbling over ... more lies

[@TshepoDDH]

500years to upgrade 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣… that’s why they take 7 days to replace a stolen cable and 2 days to attend to a trip switch 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@user-vl1mq7ww5n]

This Premier is hopeless, what has he been doing, hanging his jacket ip in his office, then goes out and has a great time spending our hard earned tax money, disgusting, disgraceful!! Please don't vote for him again, word wakker mense!!

[@cl1nty]

Grew up there. Kimberley used to be a beautiful city and historic one too. The ANC has single-handedly run this city into the ground. They needed no help.

[@collintitus7674]

Not the grinder in the background 😭😭😅😅😅⚰️these criminals makes me laugh

[@veronicakarstel9126]

So, why hasnt the ANC done something about it, they have had 30 years.

[@operationshub2163]

Because they need 500 more years

[@Clyne-mt7do]

Context is very important... we got poo on the road and I got 5 cars hahaha.. nothing to see here 😂

[@BoitshepoMolete]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂not the premier saying "then I got a fundamental problem with your thinking" yohhhh 😂😂😂😂😂

[@giftgreen3748]

Question is why must the ANC government build houses without a sewage system. They've connected the sanitary system on the old system. Such a useless public servant that is full of excuses. The ANC has embarrassed us black people.

[@brianbayer4868]

The outgoing party, the AnC sold us this guy Zamani as this noble man who has never stolen a cent, it turns out he has never done any work either, he just speaks well. My fellow South Africans give Gayton McKenzie a chance if you want all these issues fixed.

[@lm_b5080]

what has gayton done for the people of Knysna? sewage in the streets too!

[@xhvunmsholozi8980]

The house and the cars are looking proper 👌

[@bandilenkabinde5672]

Why was the bulk network not upgraded as part of the development?

[@thulanintshwanti7869]

This man speaks of the access increase as if it happened overnight. This took 30 years to put in place and there was no capacity increase on the network to cater for these connections.

[@GertJackson]

The question is why have you not improve the infrastructure since 1994? Building cheap houses and looting the money that could have been used for the infrastructure says a lot.

[@rowensamuel2979]

R30million for a kilometre of road... Jrrrrr!! Give that money to Orania, they will build a City, 2 Universities, and Buy 10000 hecters of Land for R3 million from the ANC - 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@andimadosini]

So we are led by short sighted leaders 😮😮😮

[@veronicakarstel9126]

idiots

[@tloujonasngoetjana712]

He is just giving excuses? They have governed long enough to have realised that there is an increased demand.

[@FinancialConsultdotcodotza]

30 years later😂

[@gumanguzman_loera]

Madoda....

[@kgwadimoloto3831]

The downfall of infrastructure is mainly because unqualified people are appointed, in municipalities former teachers are appointed as technical managers responsible for infrastructure development, amongst other departments. Thats why everything is collapsing, this country is where it is because ANC appoints unqualified people.

[@ricardocarvalho1290]

South Africa needs a Tucker Carlson. In fact, Tucker has mentioned how useless this government is and the potential that the country has.

[@michelelewis-mx4ty]

Tucker is just as deceptive and dishonest. Putin his hero think he is a joke.

[@philomenamcguire3059]

He doesn't look like he cares much does he?

[@thabisoleeuw6757]

I like that the premier greeted the whole crew

[@operationshub2163]

So their was no planning in RDP. The Anc could not plan and still cant plan. Simply no ability to plan. I feel ashamed for this minister.. he is so proud of achievements....

[@velimasuku8808]

The bare minimum is what they take pride in 😂

[@velimasuku8808]

More excuses.....😒

[@nomalungelongcete5875]

More and more and more Shem ukuba sithi ziSouth Africans and Taxpayers 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@user-oi7vx1in5x]

This is what happens when you consistently give your vote to the ANC. For 30 years! I have no pity. You get what you vote for. In this case, gross incompetence and systemic corruption.

[@rastaweed1268]

Is he related to seal

[@lutendomulaudzi3301]

Basically what Dr Saul is trying to say here is for 30 years the provincial government had failed to solved the sewage problem though even close to his house the is a sewage bust🤦‍♂️

[@daledevernon56]

How many more years can the ANC use the old slogan, when in doubt blame apartheid.

[@vuyisilemoyana8155]

Though not happy with their work. Well handled by the Premier....your purported ambush turned out to be the least desirable.

[@The504_]

If BBBEE wasn't a problem with the tender process, which causes corruption, then a lot of SA's problem would of been tackled.

[@montelljacobs7661]

You can say that again

[@NQA1209]

That's not an excuse Premier, that is why there is something called town planning. Before make excuses, talk to us about your wasteful expenditures in your cities and province.

[@rrekomane9631]

What does Govan mean that over depence should be at Galeshewe and not Hillcrest 🤔🤔🤔 when we mean equal equal access we mean exactly that

[@soopastylin1932]

default to 1994 ... pathetic

[@Funny-KayChannel]

The premier owned this report with facts👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@Professor_Stark]

My hometown! Last time I was in Kimberley I remember having to drive zigzag in Hill Crest and the entire city’s potholes have roads. I see ZERO infrastructure development and it’s become a ghost town 😢

[@ayandadlamini9266]

ANC is the most frustrated and confused Organization I've never seen.

[@Noname_739]

R30 million for a kilometre of road is insane!

[@sharontarin1310]

Tenders, tenders, tenders!

[@lm_b5080]

looking at his cars, it is important where ANC priorities are. as one cadre said: "we didn't join the struggle to be poor"

[@lwazidlamini3440]

Actually 30 million is very economical for a 1km dual carriage road

[@Daveisalegendperiod]

Are you a civil engineer/QS? Or a simple spectator making silly comments all day.

[@lwazidlamini3440]

@@Daveisalegendperiod bitumen company CEO Sir

[@DarrylRadcliffe]

Another example of the absolute nothing that the ANC is doing.

[@francoiscoertze3809]

Is the ANC freely supplying their employees with Psychedelics? It's like they are living in their own created reality where they are heroes. Shocking... 🤔

[@vintageClipsZa]

They should have fixed problem by now, 30 years is a long period.

[@stevennicholas5472]

He claims he doesn't know about the sewerage running across the street, but then denies he drives in the opposite direction. Yep, sounds like a real genius this one. People deserve what they vote for.

[@kennethjosephmahlangu8412]

A rare incident where an ANC member was successfully defensive. 😂😂😂

[@lebzanlebogang5519]

So the premier what did you do to inprove the infrastructure..this people have no shame

[@lithagatyeni4044]

Its poor planning. Simple.

[@vmanmabaso9539]

5 thousand units, 1 billion budget now they just playing with the people

[@ravedigger1]

We all know it's not gonna happen all that money is going to get looted the ANC know they should not be in power that is why they will steal as long as you vote for them. The Eff couldn't build 1 school in Alexandria in 5 years yet in the western cape they putting up schools faster than the anc can build rdp houses

[@nkosinathimasinga2505]

I don't like service delivery but Govan was out debated here.

[@drivewithmat]

I share the same sentiments. He was not ready for this one to be honest.

[@ericmokoena5491]

When he became the premier I used to admire him as a leader... Now he has become like the rest in his organization.

[@monama11]

30 years was [not] enough to connect 72,000 to the system that was meant 16,000 in 1947? why was this not upgraded in all the 30 years?

[@marelafragrances7847]

So when they build houses there was no proper planning to avoid this sewer problem this is crazy

[@fmjmedia22]

He is a professional politician, these people really just defeat me

[@buyanifakudze3489]

Yo.... The Premier is mopping the floor with the journalist....

[@sihlemaqina8545]

I think let's give other political parties an opportunity, and then let us be as vigilant with them as we are with the ANC. Let's see what their performance is.

[@rastaweed1268]

It's funny how the premiers cars and houses were so quickly upgraded from 94 to now 😂😂 new cars new homes new suites but for the people it's difficult to transition

[@alexemergineer3202]

Political answer to a Practical problem ❤❤❤

[@bernardwelff8089]

That's the Anc for you, he said could even take another 500 years before they fix the problem 😅

[@CyberRags]

And their brainwashed supporters see nothing wrong with that, happy to live backwards for another 500 years…..

[@sburger1146]

30 years of ANC corruption. Please vote for competent leaders South Africa.

[@lesolk]

0:26 "where's is that ?" He wanted to act he didn't know. 😂😂

[@prettygirlsloveposeidon5755]

There is always an excuse before a solution. Leaders find solutions and implement them, not find excuses. All he did was give excuses, we need to choose leaders better.

[@sammyjoemathabatha2627]

He is simply saying the ANC failed dismally.

[@user-wc1pf3nh6h]

Look how they shine with the tax payers money

[@sirtedhamilton5028]

It must be great to live life in such denial without any accountability

[@fisher6973]

Allot of cars for a premiere.

[@mkhokelipino7114]

The ambush was botched at 11:00 minutes. Also it’s problematic when uninformed journalists from elsewhere question local officials. Some of these questions and answers simply suggest that there isn’t sufficient communication regarding what is happening. These are questions that the local municipality should be providing voluntarily.

[@alexemergineer3202]

30 years to fix waste water treatment? 😂😅❤