Full Nikole Hannah-Jones: 'We Should Be Uncomfortable With The Hard Parts Of Our Past'

Nikole Hannah-Jones, creator of the “The 1619 Project,” staff writer, The New York Times Magazine and Knight Chair in Race and Journalism, Howard University, joins Meet the Press to discuss the debates and backlash over how to teach race and history.» Subscribe to NBC News: nbcnews.to/SubscribeToNBC
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Full Nikole Hannah-Jones: 'We Should Be Uncomfortable With The Hard Parts Of Our Past'

[@cv3045]

If the establishment prevents the 1619 Project from being incorporated into the school system, Black parents please get it for yourselves and your children. We need to know this information!!! Ms. Hannah-Jones, you are brilliant and we THANK YOU!!!

[@MPR2]

White parents too! You want your children to be properly and truthfully educated to help lead the country in the future and to preserve democracy!

[@davidshareefChTPhD]

You know I think about the stuff the African Americans go through in this country and I have determined yes black children need to know their history but white children need to know our history even more! Because they are being lied to they don't know our contributions and especially they don't know what we go through on a daily basis they are the ones that need to learn about our contributions to this country as much as we need to learn about our contributions to this country it's not what the Republicans try to make it out to be you know make them feel bad about themselves it's not that at all

[@MPR2]

@@davidshareefChTPhD Black history is American history! 🤜🏻🤛🏽 🇺🇸

[@elindioedwards7041]

@@davidshareefChTPhD that is exactly the purpose of 1619 - shame whites into feeling bad about themselves. I have no problem learning history and in fact I find it enjoyable. But 1619 is a unique phenomenon that is only found in the Industrialzed West . That phenomenon is a revolution to dismantle the foundation myths and traditions of the culture in order for it to be replaced. This is very different from objectively learning history. These are political objectives that are carried out under the guise of learning true history. Unfortunately many have and will be deceived by Jones and others of her ilk. If we want to discuss the Trans Atlantic trade and the settling of this country let's do objectively without political agendas. History is a written and sometimes oral record of the past. It has been said that history is written by the winners. That is generally true. Jones and 1619 is an attempt to rewrite that history as part of a cultural revolution.

[@elindioedwards7041]

@@davidshareefChTPhD since you are interested in US history here is some additional input for you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIjVl52Lr76phtE

[@Mobelll29]

She broke it down .. It’s just like that!💪🏾

[@sheilafinley2297]

Thank you Ms Hannah Jones for exposing this truth!

[@normaeason8734]

Well said Ms. Hannah Jones. Your are brilliant.

[@willieduffie4967]

Black parents teach your children the true historical facts.....and white people the world is changing and I suggest that you get on board as well. Facing the truth is not a "comfortable" for yall.....but dig this..... racism is much more uncomfortable for black people and people of color!

[@kellymcshane3386]

Exposure to her narrow minded hate is a must. She must be held accountable for vile hate. Shame her. Disrespect her. Her vile and repulsive hate will not be tolerated!

[@kellymcshane3386]

@Macavity Yeah sure. Exposing the sickening and repulsive hate she spews must be exposed. Her racist and rambling rancor is unacceptable!

[@leongardner710]

@@kellymcshane3386 vile hate? Wow! A lie can only stand for so long, n the truth comes real slow. History has always been sugarcoated ( one thing in books n another in life) n go abroad spreading one thing n another at home! Glad you never experienced any of that!

[@electric8668]

Chuck Todd interrupted her numerous times to lessen the impact of the point she was making. Seems he was uncomfortable with the truth.

[@zoralinman]

Definitely noticed that.

[@oscarwarren469]

Small man...like tuckler

[@mka1967]

Of course....he's a white man raised in America

[@teth-adam]

In fairness, he does that A LOT and it's a terrible interview tactic. Even though he's moderating a news show in with time constraints, he does a poor job off following up, transitioning etc

[@gloriapegram3756]

Chuck Todd = White Fragility

[@ronaldlawrence2229]

"Lots of our historical understanding has changed" due to the emergence of undisputable truths which keep emerging amidst perpetual lies and miseducation. Thank you Nikole Hannah-Jones for being one of the "truth-seekers."

[@gherieg.1091]

I’m willing to bet anything that she didn’t write this herself. This is part of the Floyd psyop triggered revolution ... that is being effected by WEF of Klaus Schwab, Obama the high priest of the Woke, all Marxists worldwide ( solidarity ✊🏾 ), the turncoat Deep State, etc. She’s just a pretty face that’s fronting the Propaganda, à’la AOC. Another pretty tempered beguiling the masses. The serpent on the tree came at Adam through the ‘Irresistible’ Charm of Eve. Right ? Care for the TRUTH ? His name is Jesus. Obama is against Him. The 666

[@JaneDoe-zs2vq]

Perfectly said nikole...PERFECT

[@ingeniosantafe]

He fell flat on his face with his line of questioning.

[@justmyopinion9883]

Wealthy, White males (like Chuck Todd) are usually so removed from the African-American experience that they are uncomfortable talking to an African-American about race.

[@vanna410]

Todd only knows how to bait, in a derogatory manner, just to please his base, the republikkkans

[@larrysingleton2864]

@@justmyopinion9883 No. It's called plain stupidity and ignorance because like most useful idiots in the Pravda media , and Democrats in general, don't study the ISSUES and READ.

[@charmainegeorge7423]

@@larrysingleton2864 You mean like your boy DJT reads🙄? Most embarrassingand ignorant "President "in recent history

[@50esq65]

Lol @ how she said he needed to get his questions correct

[@latrinawolfe5690]

She said that perfectly .. we need to decide what kind of country we want to be ..

[@reginalddyson9716]

She is brilliant to say the least. She read those questions like books and pointed out the biases in even the smallest of phrases used to question her information. Many Americans wouldn't catch on to half of his suggestive wording which, on it's own, harbors a separation of parents by race. I perceived absolutely no malice on his end, yet he was devicive in speech. I think this is a great example of why banning books and writing history from a single perspective is leading us towards authoritarianism. Many of the regressive laws we see passing today seem to be television fodder to distract from the big picture which is that America can afford billions on a whim to a country on the other side of the planet, yet even the chosen Democrat of the DNC refuses to truly address the inequities of his own country.. Listen, we know republican representatives are going to be willing to end the world to stay in power. You would too if you had to lie, cheat and steal to pervail amongst liars, cheaters and thieves. Their role will not change. Bernie would have created that polar opposite position. A man who walked with King is not only still alive, but offered the rest of his life to equality and we let the news quiet his fight, This station was no different. I can only attribute this to your collective lack of multiple historical perspectives.

[@GinaGreenlee]

Inspiring comment. Thank you!

[@jmnny85]

NHJ was beyond Excellent!! Well done, answered questions thoughtfully and fully

[@aulebb1968]

I can't stand Chuck Todd & wish MSNBC would let him go for all his flat out lies

[@alexthompson9516]

Like what?

[@censored1738]

How about the entire network?

[@noneyabizz8337]

Why? He fits right in there

[@yvonneplant9434]

@@censored1738 The "entire network" is what Comcast owns which is a lot bigger of than just msnbc.

[@AfroHairScience]

Facts.

[@sharingmythoughts1552]

Thank you for sharing this interview with Nikole Hannah-Jones. She is phenomenal. Absolutely brilliant. If you haven't read "The 1619 Project" please do.

[@wendell6468]

ive purchased this book from a black, female-owned bookstore while visiting Chicago, named, "Semicolon." i also downloaded it on Audible to listen to in my car. Either format is outstanding. i so appreciate the work that Nicole Hannah-Jones put into this masterpiece.

[@rudycervera3175]

We can't "make" ourselves "correct." We have to "correct" ourselves.

[@guynorth3277]

@@ehernandez2726; No! you demented twisted fool, it is merely about equal opportunity for all, who in their correct mind would not want that for a society. No all can be the same, it is just the way it is, but you can't block them from ever having an opportunity.

[@LoireValleyChateaux]

Difficult to do when dealing with people who are dead & can't speak for themselves. The author of 1619 is as Stupid as stupid does.

[@nativetexan53]

Please God, tell me teachers are not really having slave auctions in classrooms in order to teach about slavery.

[@BrandtLebowski]

it is false narrative. the idea of "slave auction" was proposed by African American consultants to show what slavery was like, and the consultants made money off it.

[@vanna410]

@@BrandtLebowski More lies!

[@rootsAlkebu]

@@BrandtLebowski 😲

[@truthseeker5767]

They should be teaching kids about ALL slavery history, including when Africans would own other Africans as slaves in Ancient times, and when the Moors owned Caucasian slaves.

[@vanna410]

@@truthseeker5767 AND WHEN CAUCASIANS OWNED BLACK PEOPLE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE 20TH CENTURY!!!! FACT!!!!! AND SHAMEFUL!!!!!!!

[@suzannestorms9496]

If he wants to talk about education and curriculum invite the secretary of education

[@danieldalton6544]

Would you have said that with a straight face when Betsy DeVos was in that position, I think she proved the secretary of education knows nothing about education and curriculum, just fund allocation.

[@suzannestorms9496]

@@danieldalton6544 or not even that... this interview/interviewer was just too idiotic

[@danieldalton6544]

@@suzannestorms9496 well, yeah. Not a Chuck Todd fan. He's no Tim Russert.

[@rasheeda1303]

Facts!

[@FlappyBelly]

@@danieldalton6544 So so true, Daniel.

[@andredotson6535]

The truth seems to hurt the privileged

[@zacrl1230]

@Get Woke, Go Broke Said the 20 day old account. . . Obvious troll is obvious.

[@parrisfoster4080]

She dispelled all the bs he tried to pass along. Especially the uniqueness of Chattel Slavery in the Americas and the ensuing present condition of Africans here in America. But there are so many more lies not being told as well. She is very astute in clarifying her points on this matter.

[@cathylewis3967]

So true!

[@misterunderstood1709]

Her writing reveals truth. That's the catalyst of the conversations.

[@edwinamendelssohn5129]

Her work is deemed fiction. It's a what if not history.

[@k88811]

Truth HURTS

[@victirynom]

Truth only hurts when it's an ugly truth

[@marryjane1684]

She got my vote 🗳 🙏🏾✊🏾

[@MrElgemini1]

Let’s master the 3 Rs in addition to learning about our history.

[@tandt7694]

@5:30 she nicely corrected him.

[@angiesunnie8469]

Chuck is a joke and he shows his lack of depth in this subject. Sad and disappointing but not surprising

[@jimmymags6516]

you need to say how he lacks depth .

[@pamm3284]

He’s ignorant.

[@rickcaldwell2862]

I am no fan of Chuck Todd, but he pretty much asked Hannah-Jones all the correct questions. Hannah-Jones is just the latest in a long line of race baiters trying to make a buck off of America's history. America is not perfect, but it is always seeking to improve, despite people like this woman who continue to try to drag us back into the past and claim she is a victim.

[@leslieb2971]

Slavery existed! WTH is the argument?

[@mrs.lilianfetters1432]

Still does

[@gravitytwo4088]

Actually, it still does. The estimate is that there's up to one million illegally held slaves in the USA today.

[@FlappyBelly]

And is gone now (in America at least...it still exists in Africa...and it isn't whitey doing it). That is an accurate, objective history lesson.

[@krillin876]

@@mrs.lilianfetters1432 in Africa and China

[@tandt7694]

It's harmful to some people's feelings to be reminded of slavery in the USA

[@krillin876]

Grifters gonna grift..

[@chameliosalamander8029]

What do Candace owens have to do with this? She's the grifter

[@justmyopinion9883]

I want to read "The 1619 Project", I know it will be a great book. I am so happy that Nikole Hannah-Jones got this conversation started. Our history has never been honestly told. I hope every African-American reads this book.

Garbage. I'm Black and No Fool.

[@JeromeNeal1]

I love how talking heads try to discredit authors they interview, without reading their books.

[@booqueefious2230]

Don't have time to read everybody's book. If the author is saying BS, that's enough for me

[@martenscs]

No.... they discredit fiction writers that try to pass off their writings as facts

[@fastrecon1]

@@booqueefious2230 I see, well we now know what your classroom experience was like.

[@BigHolmie]

@@martenscs but how do they know if it's fiction or nonfiction if they don't even read it?

[@ReyO0]

@@BigHolmie Historians have disputed 1619. It’s not a right wing thing, many left wing publications put 1619 in the fiction category.

[@tremaynehopkins9817]

Nicole held it down!!!! Yes Yes !!!!!

[@KCal1213]

Didn’t she and these mostly racist White commenters are mad because an intelligent Black woman is educating them.

[@KCal1213]

@Angrywhiteamerican Which is 2 IQ for you.

[@mikehertz6507]

@@KCal1213 you mean the same woman that had to scrub her twitter because she couldn't handle the blow back and racial nonsense she'd been spouting for years? She's never done a real interview by opposing journalists. Nbc is softball minor league bs.

[@KCal1213]

@@mikehertz6507 I mean the same woman who is an expert in her field and doing better than you. You are just mad that her spouting nonsense as you say has gotten her further along in life than you and you using your White skin. Don't be mad that the sis has learned your game and is playing it better. At least NBC is better than that Fox News which is for the stupid. Have a nice day Chad!

[@mikehertz6507]

@@KCal1213 oh look. It's the butt hurt black dude that feels he has to attack people he doesn't even know. Lolzzzz. I don't know this women's income nor do I care. It's only losers like you that need to bring that up and are concerned with equity. That's very Marxist of you.

[@kwatson4394]

Go Aufff!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@misceldasapp2875]

Thank you, thank you and Thank you, when you know better, You do better!!!!

[@marcusdarden1535]

This woman is a Queen 💯

[@elroythegreat1590]

Shout out to the guys breaking records in women's sports.

[@truthbombsucanthandle]

I agree. It takes balls to compete with those unbelievably talented female athletes .

[@illxplicit07]

​@@truthbombsucanthandle A progressive's idea of fairness. Allow men to physically dominate women for sport.

[@BrettShadow]

@@illxplicit07 The progressive idea of unity is segregation so... at this point we are living in the upside down

[@georgew4629]

i.e. cheaters

[@donelltarver7371]

Isn't he white??? Case closed.

[@QueenBDreamwalker]

Seems Nikole & i had to take a Breath at the same time before she answered Chuck's.....queries 🧐 my Honest opinion of Todd in general much less specifically on this interview would probably get me banned 🤨 Gratitude for Nikole's intellectual fortitude to respond in ways that clarify & make the Ancestors proud ✍🏽💐💜

[@mcoo465]

I don't get it.....her whole schtick is to DIFFERENTIATE people according to race! so, she (and you) get offended because Todd differentiated people by race? help me out here.

[@studentdrake]

@@mcoo465 I'm just as confused as you, let's hope this lib has the guts to respond.

[@ajlacostewm]

No we should be uncomfortable with this woke movement rewriting history. What will be next book burning?

[@alexandrajackson8498]

Are you speaking about the banning of books written by Toni Morrison? Yes American history NEEDS to be rewritten to reflect the TRUTH. She just stated her book is banned in Georgia and Florida. I learned from Chuck Todd while watching this segment of MTP about the The Ax Handle Massacre in Jacksonville Florida in 1960. Why is that?🤔 The nation and the world learned about Greenwood on it's 100th Anniversary. Why is that? Whitewashed American History

[@ajlacostewm]

@@alexandrajackson8498 Hitler burned books of some of the most important famous people in history, what do you know of American history? Do you realize the Comanche killed more native American than the whites did and was doing it decades before whites ever landed on American soil , yet you believe the whites were the ones that did it ,Comanche killed more immigrants before whites ever started fighting back ,so go ahead believe the woke you're no better than the nazis you look up to . AND THAT HISTORY WAS WRITTEN BY A NATIVE AMERICAN WHO'S ANCESTORS WITNESSED IT . LETS GO BURN HIS BOOKS AS WELL .

[@FlappyBelly]

@@alexandrajackson8498 Toni Morrison (and anyone else) is fine...for free-thinking adults. Not my half-black 11 year old.

[@tfustudios]

This is what talking to a cult member is like. Just total denial of reality.

[@brina6680]

What????

[@1Frodoe]

Good job by Ms. Jones. She didn't let the moderator coop the purpose or meaning of the 1619 Project like conservatives have done with the phrase "critical race theory."

[@charliecharlie1761]

She is a race p imp.

[@roseofsharon4872]

@@charliecharlie1761 , She is speaking the TRUTH📚

[@charliecharlie1761]

@@roseofsharon4872 Nah.

[@tylerdurden1848]

None of our history is uncomfortable, it wasn't committed by us.

[@meoff7602]

@Emerald Triangle Then why are you affraid to talk about our past? I'm not uncomfortable with it. I accept what my forefathers did. I also accept that I'm not going to do it. I'm better than our founding fathers. That makes me happy.

[@DarkPassenger]

@@meoff7602 No ones afraid to talk about it. What people don't want being taught is the BS this grifter talks about. The 1619 project is her own personal editorial on history. It's fiction, but for some reason she keeps trying to pass it off as the truth.

[@stringmonkey568]

@@meoff7602 You may be related to our forefathers, but most aren't.

[@ritacruse967]

@@DarkPassenger then set the ppl free write ur own project tell the truth an shame the devil other shut - - up.

[@elleMerci_bey]

@Josh Schmidt you have written much about Mrs. Jones and the 1619 project. Have you read it? What is your issue with the work?

[@cecilhayden585]

Freudian slip Mr. Todd, "white parents v parent of color" or expressed belief. Very valid point, if these parents are capable in all areas of study to teach their children why send them to school? So, the question becomes why they don't want their children to learn about true history of this land?

[@cecilhayden585]

@Yeshua Yackofski Another WIKI expect that has google his way into an unearned degree.

[@tracyshute5399]

@Yeshua Yackofski Thank GOD parents in Virginia woke up.

[@DarkPassenger]

@@cecilhayden585 Sounds exactly like Nicole Hannah Jones...

[@loktofeit]

"So, the question becomes why they don't want their children to learn about true history of this land?" Which is the typical liberal retort. I wonder if the modern American liberal is a troll, obtuse, or just bad with English. The slave trade, racism, MLK Jr, Jim Crow, and related topics are taught in today's schools. No one has a problem with that. When CRT is taught, some people are objecting to it, explaining explicitly why, and the modern American left goes "why don't you want kids learning history?" Not just this topic... EVERY topic. Tell a modern American liberal "I'm against illegial immigrantion," and they will oftne reply with "Why do you hate immigrants?" or "We are all immigrants!" SSDD from the far left cult that has polluted and perverted liberalism.

[@martenscs]

She acknowledged that 1619 is not a history account. It is a historical perspective. Her feelings manifested into writing. Please stop saying it is accurate.

[@mikeglassburn]

Nikole handled this interview well. Kinda frustrated with how he would interrupt her.

[@cjm3801]

Go pound sand.

[@marioantoniolawrencesr.8371]

Chuck you did not come across as an earnest honest journalist. You came across as defending the bias, I get that impression I do.

[@gloriapegram3756]

Chuck...." And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free " John 8:36

[@doreenchindezwa6319]

Not,"taken ", trafficked and abused.

[@danieldalton6544]

I couldn't find a thing she said to disagree with. TRUTH.

[@gravitytwo4088]

Nope, it's fantasy. She's even admitted it. Which is fine as long as it's disclosed as fantasy, because it's a free country, as the saying goes. But she and her clan are teaching this as FACT and it not.

[@toddfrench600]

Lol...she shut that ish down lol. I suspect that will be the last time she will be invited on the show lol. GET IT GURLLLL🤪🤪🤪🤪

[@mikehertz6507]

Chuck Todd is an intellectual light weight and more concerned with his millions and putting on a show. Put her in front of a real journalist she'd fold like a lawn chair. It's nbc, not exactly a conservative bastion.

[@Leonpavo]

13:20 Todd: "Parents are saying 'hey, don't make my kid feel guilty' and a parent of color is going 'I need to teach reality' " Hannah-Jones: "You should just think a little bit about your framing. You said 'parents' and then you said 'parents of color'. So the white is silent"

[@mka1967]

Boom!!!!!

[@carltalley2389]

@@mka1967 I'm so with that. Do you think it was loud enough?

[@Daisytoo]

@Yeshua Yackofski Or his parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc. ?

[@DarkPassenger]

It's funny because I've seen plenty of black, asian, and latino parents at these school board meetings too. There's history, and then there's the editorialized history this hack is pushing. 1619 project has been proven to be fiction by any credible historian.

[@vandreadparty]

@@DarkPassenger 90% of the people complaining at these meetings are white. One or two tokens does not change who is leading this.

[@ecrivin]

I am so glad for this post, seeing it for the first time. I actually utilized the 1619 Project as part of my substantiating research for my latest book "Chain Letter to America: The One Thing You Can Do to End Racism"" ... The interviewer could have been better prepared going up against a power house like Nicole Hannah-Jones replete with enough intellectual fortitude to redress some of his questions which at times came off as clumsy and ill conceived...I was glad for this because it proffered me the opportunity to learn even more about misconceptions & American historical thought patterns...which is certainly open for discussion..to that end, I believe that DISCUSSIONS are imperative in extant & in posterity in our country.

[@jimmymags6516]

Americans are getting sick and tired of being told how racist they are . The black community should clean up their side of the street before lecturing the world .

[@victirynom]

@@scparker6893 the intellectual fortitude was in reference to Chuck Todd's ignorance. Looks like you sit in the same seat.

[@mayajones1352]

I really don't like his questions towards her. If you listen closely, he was critical and controversial. I really appreciate the way Hannah-Jones handled the situation and made him eat his words. Thank you for your work, Nikole Hannah-Jones.

[@VS-oq6rz]

Is the interviewer intoxicated? He's so completely out of his depth here.

[@julietwhiskey6987]

Some people would rather believe the lies of America myths than face the truth.

[@julietwhiskey6987]

Like you believing in “happy” slaves, “kind” slave masters, and that the Civil War wasn’t fought to settle the question of whether America would be a slave holding nation but had nothing to do with slavery but was fought for “state’s rights?” Thanks for stopping by my comment, Smegma, and go read something besides Facebook.

[@DarkPassenger]

@@julietwhiskey6987 Read something besides Nicole Hannah Jones....

[@julietwhiskey6987]

Thanks for stopping by my comment, Smegma!

[@victorwilliams1304]

She's right.

[@gloriapegram3756]

Amen..... Truth hurts !!!

[@Rell-eu8wv]

Democrats: “CRT isn’t taught in schools” Also Democrats: “Parents shouldn’t be mad when CRT is taught in schools”

[@worthyone01102]

Parents shouldn't be mad when American History is taught in school

[@Rell-eu8wv]

@@worthyone01102 they’re not teaching American history. She’s teaching lies, and the NYT already admitted that the 1619 project was revisionist history that she made up herself. You people are gullible

[@worthyone01102]

@@dirkcheezleman5963 I’m black sweetie I’m well aware of my history

[@jeffreyhurst7231]

@@dirkcheezleman5963 In your logic it's more like calling Christopher Columbus a hero, which American history taught in schools clearly does.

[@jeffreyhurst7231]

Do you even understand what you typed? I don't think you do.

[@mattt4163]

NHJ will be lost to the dustbin of history with this ridiculous idea.

[@gfunkin2]

What "idea?"

[@peterosullivan788]

Ms. Jones has it 100% right. Every word. Every word.

[@berrylee5000]

If u mean 100% wrong then yes, ur correct

[@robertthorn3751]

Thank you for your voice and truth nikole

[@gravitytwo4088]

It's not fact, though. Just be sure you know that. It's her "reimaging of history".

[@robertthorn3751]

@@gravitytwo4088 is it like using an online alias other than your "historical" name on an online platform to safely hide your own personal Interpretation? What exactly is "reimagined" in your opinion?

[@Kay_1think4u]

🤔 the snippet of the movie was longer than the interview. This is weird.

[@smilingfaces9846]

We must defend the history of the United States of America and resist the desire to transform into the divided states of lies

[@alexandrajackson8498]

Are you speaking of the "whitewashed American history?"🤔

[@ProkofNY]

@@alexandrajackson8498 there is whitewashed history and then there is NHJ’s version. I would call NHJ’s version an overcorrection that is equally as biased. If we want children to truly learn to think critically we should teach them that racism and oppression have and still continue to exist. However we should not tell them to look at racism and oppression as the only explanation behind very complex societal problems-that is the definition of teaching kids *how* to think.

[@Breggrouse]

She is amazing

[@cecilhayden585]

@Emerald Triangle Limited vocabulary, is that why you keep repeating yourself.

[@robertnobles8189]

@Emerald Triangle cut paste cut paste. Just go away. You aren’t contributing to the discussion by making unsupported claims. Maybe go read her book.

[@hankscorpion]

@@cecilhayden585 explain how she isn't a black supremacist? she wants white kids to feel bad about being white, despite having nothing to do with slavery...that is like saying a blk kid should feel bad because of some blk serial killer or whatever...how is that right?

[@cecilhayden585]

@@hankscorpion Did we watched the same video. What did she say about master teachers?

[@hankscorpion]

@@cecilhayden585 I am familiar with her...and her views on CRT...and she literally said parents should have no say in what their kids are being taught...because of her and others like her, is why home school is at it's highest numbers right now. people are sick of being made to feel bad over something that had nothing to do with them and don't want their kids to feel the same.

[@suzannestorms9496]

She’s too smart for him. History yes

[@almightyvock]

Probably one of the least smart people in academia.

[@suzannestorms9496]

@@almightyvock she’s not in academia, she’s a journalist

[@almightyvock]

@@suzannestorms9496 She's a fiction author.

[@zionzoeypeanut]

OMG CHUCK! STOP CUTTING HER OFF! I miss Tim Russert so much! #chucksucks

[@calpag]

Ms. Hannah Jones, you made very brilliant responses to the moderator on the 1619 project. I now understand the goal and the mission of the 1619 project and why it should be taught in schools. As Americans, we never want to admit to our past wrong deeds.

[@Daisytoo]

Lefties are forever blaming others for their current misdeeds. Grow a real conscience, Caleb!

[@fastrecon1]

Not Americans, WHITE PEOPLE!

[@fastrecon1]

@@Daisytoo Daisy, you are showing your true colour. You and your ilk can't handle the truth.

[@ReyO0]

@@fastrecon1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4OwhoCvbNKBiJI

[@stephybabs3233]

@@fastrecon1 what a completely racist comment..

[@seanohelan8241]

BRAVO MISS HANNAH-JONES

[@estherm1974]

Oh brother!!

[@Iloveswedes]

If you want to standardize what is taught about slavery, it will happen. They do it anyway. They teach American History and break it up in high school at 1877... it's history up to 1877 and then history after that, as I remember it. They have Social Studies and other classes before that... and they could discuss slavery and all that goes with it in a thoughtful way if they wanted to. It's 244 years of history. It's consequential because it's the majority of the history.... but it's also a continuum to it in that legal segregation followed for another 100 years, and even to this late day, the behaviors and practices are still observed. It's not like all of the very racist people all died at the end of each of these eras. The teachers can find ways to standardize how these things are taught. I mean, it's not like we can't memorize dates. We know 1607, 1620, 1676 (Bacon's Rebellion), 1770, 1773, 1776, 1783, 1812, 1850, 1861, 1863, 1865, 1877, 1895, etc. We can memorize what we want to. We can talk about eras, we can talk about dates, we can look at all of the subjects we currently care about but with additional information on how this actually affects everyone, or look at the new subjects that will and must arise to understand the country as it is today. Chuck asking about children age starts.... and not feeling guilty.... that sh*t is always funny. I'm sorry, have you heard of the doll test? Black kids are already subjected to racism through media, everyday... that's why the doll test is what it is. We don't get to protect them, which is nothing new.... but as always, we need to protect white kids. Protect them from their own ancestors' past. How ironic. You want to teach them about Washington to blindly be patriotic, but not to teach them about how he was able to become rich and become president. That was because of slavery. Jefferson and all the rest of them. It isn't to disparage them, but to show who they really were, and show that they were not these perfect figures, these almost mythical people "the Founders". The Founding Deadbeat Fathers, if you want to be honest, in that they ignored the pain of their black sons and daughters, literally and figuratively. This said, I don't think anybody is suggesting to teach white 6-year-olds that they have white privilege that came from slavery. I think it makes sense if you're teaching children about history of America, that this is when you start teaching them about what was here and why. If they are old enough to understand history, then they are old enough to know some of the bad parts of it, too. It's very curious to see a white person complain about kids learning real history.... but not just that, I think it says a lot that they don't want kids to know right from wrong, or be able to judge good and bad behavior. It might actually have them because decent adults. Have them question whether slavery was good or bad. It certainly is clear that people did not have to be slaves in order to come to America nor was it ever a good thing or necessary to have formed such a country. It wasn't. It could've been a bunch of hardworking white people who built it, but it wasn't. By the way, stop looking for the endpoint. How do we get over this hump? Why is that the question? Why aren't you talking to these racist governors who ban books and bother folks who want to improve education by digging into this history? It's not for Nikole to explain how white people can fix themselves. Why don't you have the answer? Why have you not had to think about the answer by this time, even yet?

[@lolapr6680]

I really hope the media keeps crt alive 24/7 through midterm elections and then into 2024. Please do.

[@00bankz24]

Luckily for us they can’t help themselves. Lol

[@tyronevincent1368]

CRT started back in the 70 ties introduced by a black female Harvard law student but 30 years on corporate media has weaponized it to place fear in folk. This isn't a new topic in America but for this generation it is. Google behind the scenes produced by the daily show and hear the atty in her own words

[@vanna410]

Begging your pardon, crt is not the 1619 project. It is an American history class. CRT is a college level class taught by law professors. Please look it up.

[@groovecouple4644]

@@vanna410 CRT is race Marxism, nothing more . Just replace “class” with “race”. Same hateful rhetoric.

[@vanna410]

@@groovecouple4644 you are so pitiful, please educate yourself before replying. good nite.

[@sistarhodesh5039]

Civilization and slavery go hand in hand really Todd???

[@Daisytoo]

No, but he's a professional Marxist panderer.

[@FlappyBelly]

She just said it again...that parents shouldn't know what kids are being taught. We can't let this go on.

[@vanna410]

hahaaa!!

[@janedoe1229]

Thank you Nikko for being articulating to confused Chuck Todd what '1690 is and who it is applicable to and how it's to be interpreted.

[@josieperez1110]

1619 not 1690?... right?

[@cyndee4180]

And she did so so eloquently

[@vanna410]

She is very bright! He, not so bright.

[@flugsven]

It shows just how important her work is.

[@rootsAlkebu]

@@flugsven bingo!

[@charliecharlie1761]

Hogwash.

[@NICK-uy3nl]

She should travel to Nigeria and write a book about black slave masters who slaved their own kinds and sold them all over the world

[@adampierce5170]

Yeah, but we are talking about the Americas.

[@johndowner2196]

Slavery in other countries is no excuse for the United States!!

[@stringmonkey568]

But, but Biden worships China.

[@user-xs1is9yd5o]

And who said it was lobotomite?

[@rodmckinney40]

Teach truth and reality to your children as soon as their sponge brains can soak up the knowledge

[@Commander-Rem]

Until all people who work in America have a living wage above the poverty line, slavery still exists.

[@mikehertz6507]

What about internships where you basically for for free to gain experience? Or take a huge pay cut to learn new skills? I've done it and it worked out amazingly.

[@ghill88]

Economic slavery is real and it is an intentional corporate policy to maximize profits for the wealthy.

[@mikehertz6507]

@@ghill88 wow, I guess I was a slave while working my internship and didn't know it. I feel so stupid now. Thanks for enlightening me.

[@ghill88]

@@mikehertz6507 Some internships and apprenticeships do abuse the situation, but it is a real sensible way to get training and experience. Good for you

[@mikehertz6507]

@@ghill88 and if there was mandatory "living" wage myself and many, many others would have not had those opportunities.

[@ortho-g9826]

Enough bs. The more you stack it, the more it smells.

[@owenho9716]

Chuck how very white of you and your questions. Nikole Hannah-Jones laid it out clear and precise, we need to educate our children with reality

[@DarkPassenger]

That crazy broad doesn't live in reality. She relies on people like you to believe her BS so she can make money.

[@kevinjohnston4923]

Chuck isn’t white, he’s jewish. Nikole doesn’t understand reality. 1619 has been corrected multiple times.

[@JBfromFL]

That isn't very nice

[@mortyr045]

What about all the Irish slaves? Or about the Chinese railroad workers? Or Native American ones? If this is about slavery why are they only focusing on African Americans and not the other people that were enslaved?

[@worthyone01102]

Whataboutism!!

[@bruell]

Proud of Nikole Hannah-Jones for publishing this book. We need to face Amerikkka's racist past.

[@LadyAtheOnly]

Indeed.

[@LordofPatriarchy]

Fine we do as a matter of fact however do we teach that well south american slavery was the bulk of it and far crueler Do we teach about the Barbary slave trade where black people sold white people into slavery What about South Africa's recent past which black people are unbelievably racist to white people How about the fact that the USA was NOT the last nation to give up slavery in the North America Those noble Native Nations were. How about the fact that slavery is still practiced in african nations today How about we teach the truth that we didn't round up black people and ship them over here we bought them from other black people back in the day. Lastly keep in mind 600k white guys had to die to end the matter in this country

[@kuangoseilah8082]

Great interview. I love that she spoke the truth about the majority of teachers are not attempting to make white students/European American student internalized the past deeds of racism in the United States. I think teaching the truth about racism in past helps to stop it from continuing into our future and the same applys to the history about ALL the additional categories of people discriminated against.

[@SH-nv6cm]

I would agree, if that is what CRT was teaching. Either you sugar-coated it to make it seem legitimate or you are not aware of what CRT is really teaching. Very sad times when politicians think brainwashing children Into fallacies outweighs the right of a parent to determine what their children Learn.

[@kevinjohnston4923]

We already ripped the country in half to free you. Now you want white kids to feel bad about it? The Civil War was a mistake.

[@billyboy1093]

@@SH-nv6cm CRT is not being taught in grade or high schools. It is part of the curriculum of certain college courses. It's just another right wing boogeyman that doesn't exist to make you frightened of the "other" get over it!

[@SH-nv6cm]

@@billyboy1093 You are 100% incorrect. Even Winsome Sears Lieutenant Governor of West Virginia whom once served on the Board of Education attested to the teachings of radicalized CRT in grade schools. Beyond that, there are plenty other grade school districts where teachers openly speak on the teachings of CRT in their classrooms. "The worst thing you can tell a Republican is a lie, the worst thing you can tell a liberal is the truth" sit on that.

[@vandreadparty]

@@SH-nv6cm Define CRT?

[@dmoore3018]

He was ill prepared for the interview..how are you interviewing in regards to a book....and you didn't even take the time to read said book (do your research and prepare yourself)...and commenting as if you had 😂😭 she politely gathered him while acknowledging she knew he clearly did NOT READ the martial and was inadequate in the ability to do a full insightful interview! He just came to work like..where do I sit 😂😭💀

[@mrpearson1230]

🤣🤣🤣 Got him together quick!

[@misceldasapp2875]

Ignorance is not blind

[@illxplicit07]

The left keeps saying parents shouldn't be involved in their kids education. Are they masochists? Or are they just really bad listeners? Regardless, the Democrats should start preparing for their new careers.

[@worthyone01102]

Parents should of course be involved in their kids education, but should not be deciding curriculum if they are not SME

[@illxplicit07]

@@worthyone01102 Except universities are extremely ideological, and teachers are increasingly carrying this ideology into the classroom. How do I know? I experienced this firsthand in my teaching prep program. It's deeply inappropriate for leftists to impose their ideology on unsuspecting families. Their job is to educate. Not indoctrinate.

[@worthyone01102]

@@illxplicit07 the right is doing the same by banning books in school

[@illxplicit07]

@@worthyone01102 That's largely a reaction to the situation I described. The same rule applies to abortion laws in Texas and elsewhere. The left has become so uncontrollably ideological that the right is now reacting with its own draconian measures. That's what happens when progressives choose to exist in an echo chamber. Everyone suffers.

[@williambent9636]

Hannah-Jones is brilliant. She says professional teachers are best equipped to teach American history, and she is right. As a high school history teacher your job is to tell all of America's story--and that includes Indigenous peoples and African Americans, from the very beginning; other groups as we drove into their territories, such as Hispanics; and immigrants from around the globe, including Asian-Americans. Women's history is everyone's history, too. Did you know that the first women to be "sold" as brides in America came on that first ship with Africans for sale in 1619? They were auctioned off just like the slaves, to pay their passage, by becoming wives or indentured servants. It's a big responsibility to show students a fuller picture of America. Yet virtually all of my students became prouder of their country after their year of American History, not ashamed of it. They discovered that even when America hasn't lived up to Jefferson's statement that all men are created equal. we continually strive, even with setbacks, toward this founding ideal. America's is an ongoing story, one of great hope, as my students were allowed to discover for themselves. That's why you need real history teachers to teach and design the curriculum. And don't get me started on trying to cover all of American History in just two classes, all that most high schools require.

[@tonydaysog9164]

I think the bit that confuses me is I’m pretty sure I was taught in my public high school that slavery was not only a part of the US during the signing of the declaration but that the signers of the declaration did so *knowing* about the obvious contradiction between the declaration and slavery. After all… I always remember the scene from the movie 1776… “molasses to rum to slaves”, which we talked about. I graduated in 1984, and I’m sure my teacher taught us this in junior year US history in 1982-1983. I’m not seeing what’s new here? Has public school teaching of US history since I left in 1984 become so bland such that tragic concepts we were taught in an noncontroversial manner then are now controversial?

[@stringmonkey568]

@@tonydaysog9164 Yes, in our day, all that was included in our classes. We learned about George Washington Carver, Malcolm X, the Reverend King, Nat King Cole, Read 101 black inventors and their inventions. There is more than enough material in there, to give the children a sense of pride.

[@williambent9636]

@@tonydaysog9164 Yes,. Within the past few years the freedom of teachers to teach history as you described is increasingly under fire. Parents can and do threaten teachers and get them fired.

[@gravitytwo4088]

@@tonydaysog9164 But what you weren't taught (I wasn't ) is that the original draft of the Declaration of Independence had the ending of slavery in it, but the southern colonies said they wouldn't sign on to the revolution if they didn't remove that passage and so they did. Later, when they wrote the Constitution, they left the door open for the ending of slavery, hoping in the future it would happen and it did.

[@oladejooladunni7393]

I love the Book 1619

[@williamcoates2369]

Don't forget the Daughters of the Confederacy

[@redblackandgreen1117]

In 1619 the USA didn't exist. A group of colonialist from Spain, England , the Netherlands, French and Portugal were colonializing the Americas. Those European countries brought enslaved Africans to the western hemisphere. It is not a USA specific thing.

[@deja2000]

She addressed that in the clip, did u view it all and disagree with her points and if so which?

[@redblackandgreen1117]

@@deja2000 That the USA is somehow more culpable for its aspirational statements than other countries.

[@deja2000]

@@redblackandgreen1117 she said the US is more culpable for its practices of chattel slavery, how late the US was to abolish slavery, and that the US is one of a VERY small group of countries that required war to end slavery. She went in quite a bit of detail in the video. Do u disagree?

[@redblackandgreen1117]

@@deja2000 i don't disagree with objective fact but with subjective political slant.

[@deja2000]

@@redblackandgreen1117 what specifically do u believe she presented as political slant?

[@oppressedspeakeroftruth6558]

I'm uncomfortable with the free pass the media and politicians gave blm and antifa. Some evn bailed these people out and promoted the destruction.

[@addieeleby410]

You need to be worried about Trumptism. Full of demonic spirit's and God is bringing it to the light. What's done in the dark will come to the light. Look at all the text messages.

[@CleverMonkeyArt]

Not so. First, there is no "antifa" as an organized movement. It's just an epithet directed at certain people. Any more than all conservatives are Birchers or Nazis. Second, BLM has done nothing to deserve any push back or accusations of hypocrisy. Name a single BLM person who has been arrested and accused of destruction of public property or worse. Please.

[@cecilhayden585]

I remember as a child watching Bull Connor being given free reign.

[@marshamarshamarsha4567]

@@CleverMonkeyArt BLM is a Communist organization who care nothing about black lives. As a nation, we pretty much have been against Communism, because Communism is opposite of freedom along with Nazism, whom my dad fought in WWII.

[@ChazTheYouthful]

@@marshamarshamarsha4567 did you ever attend a single event of theirs? Even one?

[@mka1967]

CT got called out on his whiteness

[@johnschuster6277]

I think Nikole and David Koresh would have made a great mixed race couple!

[@bobbiebabbette2428]

She’s a journalist and Not An EXPERT in Education. Why should anyone listen to her about educating other peoples children. This forum Meet The Press is a minuscule of its former version. Chuck isn’t ( never was ) qualified to be the face of this program. It’s proper name should be We’re The Liberal Press, that he’s qualified for. Parents are the ones that should be overseeing what’s taught in the classrooms today.

[@worthyone01102]

She literally said, it should be up to the teachers who are the SME

[@patricialocklear5757]

If people weren't being so nosey in the affairs of others and clearly each person's business is their own, we need to remember being observed without consent of a person in a private setting in their own home is illegal, and worse to have an opinion about that person your sitting illegally judging without their knowledge for lawsuits, violation of due process, violation of rights.

[@jamesmeagheriii6604]

12:18 fundamental difference there.

[@mrpearson1230]

!!!! 🙌🏾

[@NYtalk60]

It sounds ro to me that Chuck should have read the 1619 Project! His ignorance is showing.

[@thesacredibis6723]

I bought the 1619 project to use for my Constitutional law school weekly essays and final paper. "We should be uncomfortable with the hard parts of our past." Rightfully so. Highly recommended and informative. #HBCU Howard University make us proud.

[@michaelknight2897]

Im sure you will get a good grade for espousing the dogma.

[@melissakerr4995]

The 1619 project has NOTHING to do with the constitution. You're reading hateful propaganda. But you want it all to be true. Sad.

[@thesacredibis6723]

@@melissakerr4995 Cognitive dissonance abounds. #BLM.

[@thesacredibis6723]

@@michaelknight2897 The accolades go to Nikole Hannah Jones as a Pulitzer prize author and her scholarship. #BLM

[@michaelknight2897]

@@thesacredibis6723 When this country breaks apart, and it will, remember all the accolades that laid the foundation for the fall of the US. No group can survive when 1/2 it's members seem to loathe it. The 1619 project is not about history, it's about idealogy. It's no different than Howard's Zinn's work. It's basically a holy document for the new identity based religion progressives have adopted. Every fundamentalist religion needs a root cause for their fanaticism.

[@hellogoodbye4061]

Jones - "We should let the 'professionals' teach our children, especially when people such as myself are telling them what to teach."

[@billmorrison9068]

How about living in the present?

[@jeanettehuamilton4256]

Yes,live in the present but, learn from the past.

[@marie-luisepolito3739]

Is this the land of the free? There is a lot of teaching to be done!

[@LordofPatriarchy]

Yes it is you are freer in this country today than at anyother point in human history I mean you have the right to post BS like this for one. This woman is a racist and blames white people for the fact that no one cares about her stupid book

[@FlappyBelly]

And this just isn't white parents speaking out...black and Latino parents don't like it either...from all parts of the country.

[@nyebots]

Not at all true. That's Conservatives that highlight the very few blk ppl that are against it. I'm black and I happen to know a lot of other black people and they are in favor of CRT. Bc they understand what it is.

[@groovecouple4644]

@@nyebots It’s race Marxism. It’s a hateful divisive way to think, and teaches our children to divide themselves on racial characteristics( unlike earlier versions of Marxism that divided people between classes).

[@hadtocheathimtobeathim6549]

Why? None of us alive are to blame.

[@marlonsmith1400]

This is what happens when a learned journalists knows how to check another journalist who constantly frames questions prescriptively ..

[@oscarwarren469]

Too smart for Chuck...