Full potential of all Soviet CVs

[@Adplosive]

I feel sorry for the Italian ships with their ~4.6km AA they're not even gonna get to shoot the planes before they eat 3 fires and 15k dmg

[@FrankieMankie]

When the Serov (tier 6) does more alpha damage with all types of armament than the Implacable (tier 8) you realize something aint right...

[@sorrow2607]

Because its T6 Season and you can get it for Money.

[@mayshiratoshi6390]

At the first design RNCV is for flood/fire dps damage. But got hard neft on that cuz WG said it op. (But it's still true. That it's kind of op when came out.) Then they release this. The better version of "flood/fire dps damage" cuz it still have so much anoying raw dpm (cuz they attack only need one strike)

[@patricknguyen7461]

Taking to account that non of your airplane got shot down

[@TallEdge90]

Yes it is right they have no hp

[@grandadmiraldavid]

Thanks for identifying the music tracks in the video. The background music was always a great part of your videos.

[@Talguy21]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but these seem to be pretty good at harassing enemy CVs with damage. Their reasonably high alphas, long attack range, and single-use squadrons mean that the enemy auto-fighters won't get much of a chance to lock on and chew up your planes for the trouble. This is ofc ignoring that the planes are pretty slow so going for a CV (i.e. sniping them early) is probably a waste of time and effort.

[@mikkodoria4778]

You can only do that up to tier 6, because remember the aa accuracy on cv is %100 , and tier 8 above will shred youre planes, maybe except the tier 8 ijn.

[@almightydeity]

@@mikkodoria4778 Not true. The skips on Chkalov and Nakhimov are ~6km and accurate at that range. They're reliable at efficiently harassing CVs without major losses. Torps are also long range but exceedingly slow unless at minimum arming distance. Those may also make it through with 1-2 losses on most CVs as long as you boost through fighter.

[@ruffianeo3418]

Serov vs ranger on average map size - it takes 3 good sorties to kill the ranger. Which translates to around 4 minutes. Its fun but not sure if it is the most effective use of time for the first 4 minutes of a battle.

[@rendevc4414]

if there was no MAchin gun thing in rocket plane, this tech tree will sure be as par with Hakuryuu

[@Black-1ce]

Haku is bad now. Most times my squadrons get deleted before I even get to finish my attack run, and that's with careful flying like using planes early before using them on enemies to minimise losses later and avoid having 2 planes left only 5 minutes in lol. The rocket plane rework honestly made rocket planes useless in TX

[@underviv64]

So it’s a more versatile fdr Instead of hovering around for a bit inbetween big strikes You just have the ability to change your armament and position on the map between each strike. Maybe the spotting potential is reduced?

[@Dominus_Potatus]

just use FT for spotting. This CV breaks everyanti air mechanism. All anti air mechanism is to deter 2nd or 3rd strikes. imagine, kaga is releasing 6 torpedoes, who cares about paper planes?

[@mikkodoria4778]

@@Dominus_Potatus and this cv has better aiming than Kaga torp bombers

[@byr0n]

@@mikkodoria4778 yeah the torps from these cvs are such a fucking joke lol, such a great and necessary addition to the game!!!

[@almightydeity]

@@byr0n IF they hit. They have a long arming range and are very slow.

[@mayshiratoshi6390]

@@almightydeity And this meta is called "Camping Meta" where people camp at island/max range or use half speed more than sail full flank

[@volknetai.3690]

Like FDR. Its potential come from great single strike but take time to attack again

[@mikkodoria4778]

But the down time for is annoying, and planes are slow

[@almightydeity]

FDR can usually grab a coffee, relax, rub one out, and watch an anime before you need to send another squadron out except for a rare few ships. FDR can pretty reliably drop 2 full hits and mark on anything not pushing AA skills or DFAA.

[@AlphaFox38]

This is a great video. Thank you for taking the time to test.

[@nitrozeus2666]

I laughed when Serov did 14k to bb

[@Antifox99]

Being fair, Weser can deal 14k dmg to a BB in one drop too

[@a_wisepenny9227]

i love the fact that the fighter shoot bullets at the ship

[@murasakiyatsu8833]

Thats a rubber bullet they didnt do any dmg

[@mariebcfhs9491]

the soviet carriers are basically cruisers that fire airplanes as their salvo

[@DEATHRAGE157]

Thanks for taking on my request toptier.

[@Zelectrocutica]

Perfectly balans as i expected.

[@jaywerner8415]

At least shooting the planes down lowers the damage protentional, more then i can say for every other Carrier line. God i hope they change them over to this style of attack, it just feels so much better on both ends.

[@alpha1games275]

you do realize that the other cvs also loose damage in subsequent runs, really if look at it closer the russian cvs barely ever take AA damage thanks to the extended range of their squadrons even their rocket planes have 3-4 km range thats half the AA range of most ships (t10)

[@deadhorse3389]

Full Potential of Torps and Rockets of all Soviet CVs *fixed it*

[@shadowco9900]

Pobeda and Chkalov are FDR in tier 8

[@briappa6670]

It's great that they're adding soviet carriers. I've been waiting for them since I started playing the game, though I tought that's not gonna happen because I heard soviets didn't have many Aircraft carriers. In fact they have 1 at the moment.

[@onefastsled]

It’s a damn good thing WoW has most if it’s ships being design concepts, basically anything but the Submarines for Germany after tier VII is like that, same with all their Carriers

[@sloopypotato]

But the paper planes on Chkalov get easily destroyed for a high tier ships specially when you got uptier match those superships and tier X ships shreds your bomber and torps plane like a paper before deliver the package only the skip bomber is more reliable sometimes torps work only on lonely lost BB tho

[@yamato-zi7yk]

I got sniped in the Ranger a couple of times from this ship.

[@yamato-zi7yk]

Realized I meant to put Serov.

[@stefanovvladirimovich1782]

Really? I got sniped by Serov while i was in Konig and second time when i was in bayern...i was like "what the actual fuck,that's too op wg,literally took 20k of my hp in a single run"

[@tonyennis1787]

Don't normal torpedoes have a spread when they are dropped? This is rather all or nothing, and the "all" looks very concerning.

[@TheBaralinChannel]

Eh, I have them. It's only concerning if you're camping. Which, say what you will, but if you get struck by these twice, you kinda deserve to die.

[@onefastsled]

Not really, some CVs drop them slightly angled, but most will have them ramrod

[@Bigbacon]

and then you play it in a real game and your flight get shredded by a single low tier ship.

[@TacticalBeard]

“ Balanced “

[@lilmaniac573]

Hmm the Serov does more dmg than midway rocket salvo?

[@nitrozeus2666]

So these attack planes do average 20x times damage that german attackers do to battleships

[@Adplosive]

German attack aircraft are meant for citadelling cruiser broadsides not attacking BBs, but yeah the Soviet alpha strikes are the highest alpha dmg planes now

[@fignap8668]

They are OP at dealing damage, but there is also a big BUT. The bad thing is hp of squadron, and it's really big spot range. So any ship will have enough time to ask their CV to put fighters or call by themselves, or just prepare their AA range. If you are new player i don't recommend you those CV's.

[@giantdwarfulf]

you really don’t need the squadron hp because you only have one drop. AA is designed in a way to prevent oder deter any 2nd, 3rd and 4th drop. The ship’s fighters only attack after the first drop and CV‘s fighters attack a bit sooner but with fast planes you can still outrun them and make your drop. Unless you don’t run into flak which generally isn’t too hard, there is no chance to prevent that drop. So if all the damage from your squadron is in the first drop which is almost impossible to prevent, does that sound fair and balanced to you?

[@fignap8668]

@@giantdwarfulf but bruh just compare the squadron hp of KAGA and Chkalov. And you think that enemy ships are always alone with bad AA? They usually swim together to counter CV's.

[@giantdwarfulf]

@@fignap8668 i can only repeat what i said: you cant prevent the first strike, no matter of the squadron hp. This ship is better at dealing damage than Kaga. Watch the 300k replay ttier posted yesterday… is there any time the player lost his planes before the first drop? No! There wasn’t. This ship is busted as it is

[@giantdwarfulf]

@@fignap8668 the best thing is that you can attack from outside AA range with skip bombers so the enemy team stacking AA is useless for them. The concept of these CVs is just dumb

[@almightydeity]

@@fignap8668 Skip bombs don't care about your bad AA's feelings.

[@PterryDactyl88]

with the skip bombs for dd's try to line up the very first line with their ship so the bombs dont bounce and just fall onto the dd

[@66_y11]

it just pisses me off that the torpedoes fall into the water at like a 90* angle i dont know why, but it just does

[@yichenqiao8772]

intresting bounce bomb

[@fabriciomarquezrubio8998]

Our Aircraft Carriers

[@darkrhino3206]

Balans they said 🤣🤣🤣

[@kismaaja226]

After play soviet CV is really fun

[@ZarguesRD29]

2:52 U can Get always ciudadels if u aim just The base The crusiers

[@asdfjklol]

At 4:12 did one of those bombs miss and hit the New Mexico behind the one you were aiming at?

[@loremuwu6241]

Yes, its called skip bombing. The bombs basically skips across the water. Its like stone skipping but the stones are explosive.

[@dzulfikarahmadfauzan6405]

Imagine nakhimov...

[@Russiangamerpro2021]

That’s weird if they got it Soviet carriers that’s technically weird that’s pretty cool I think this is gonna be the first so we had aircraft carrier in the whole wide world and warships because I do believe all the worship of legends and if they do that maybe one day if I can make the company for a while worship of legends

[@merdwardo2085]

Are you good?

[@Russiangamerpro2021]

Yes

[@Russiangamerpro2021]

I was wonder are you good 👍

[@merdwardo2085]

@@Russiangamerpro2021 yes yes i very good 💪👈🔥😀

[@Russiangamerpro2021]

I want to ask ask the company for a while worship of legends for bringing Sophia carriers

[@Jax2777]

I dont want to hear anyone complaining about hakuryu

[@rys4k]

I think we will se change of kosmomolets name in future (it was a submarine)

[@user-gm4jx6xl3b]

I like the soundtrack of your video but can I have the song list please?

[@atzeatzig362]

spreadsheet: B A L A N C E D

[@trondboe6825]

yes all the ships are standing still and are boots

[@diegobasanta2]

Only skip bombers are useful against dds. With 4 or 5 DD MM and potato dds players it's very hard play well. I miss RPF in planes. Use hidden menace.

[@alexandrecosta1246]

is it only me or he dindt show the tier X nakhimov

[@JYF921]

Why no Admiral nakhimov yet?

[@treeherder42]

Early access has not included it, so either TT doesn't have it or has a super test version and is not allowed to show it yet due to NDA.

[@ainsleyhariott4353]

Any reason for the chkalov skip bombers test you directly dropped on the DD instead of going for the second notch @toptier

[@yemannwaiphyo8817]

So, Soviet CVs Alpha Damage shows it's max potential for Sniping Enemy CVs, since . . . auto pilot. Interesting.

[@jagsdomain203]

In actual battle you wont get the planes in there.

[@4nix591]

Yea, as the title said, this is just a demonstration of their full potential...

[@almightydeity]

You will get those DBs in though. Haven't had much trouble dropping torps, either, as long as I saved boost for the approach.

[@tremox9786]

Interesting, RU CVs might be real potent against DDs with their tight torp spread and low arming distance skip bombers. Cruiser and BBs might be harder to strike without losing planes before.

[@almightydeity]

That's the thing. Both Chkalov and Nakhimov have an extra skip which puts them right around 6km max skip. Their skips can literally hit outside of most ships' range, or so quickly after entering that AA rarely has a chance to fire. 3-5 hits is pretty easy, and high cruisers and BBs can still catch a good distance between the skips. Torps are tight but will be very slow with a long arming distance. You shouldn't expect to nail DDs with them, but hitting slow cruisers or BBs should be reliable assuming they're going max speed. Chkalov's standard bombs are ideal to hit DDs hard. For low-AA DDs any skip can be directly dropped as well with very little lead.

[@tremox9786]

@@almightydeity 11:43 Looks like a max skip distance of around 4 km with engine boost in Chaklov, which is still impressive. But Immelman has the same distance and you still take AA dmg with her while striking. The more interesting thing is the first skip by around 1 km, which allows you to immediately strike DDs when they open.

[@almightydeity]

@@tremox9786 It's not, it's 6km. I have the ship. They're 6km skips and they're fantastic at chunking CVs and BBs at that distance. Their skips are hard to land on DDs due to their height and variance but high ships will still reliably be hit. For DDs skips should be treated like regular DBs.

[@npc.no1]

yeah i think ima switch from British cv for Russia cvs

[@SmokeDrake]

Other then eating up time between the attack order and the rocket's launching, is there any point to the MG's firing? All it does is tell the target ship "Were going to rocket you!"

[@jonogrossett8407]

Thats the point, to balance the rocket attack planes a little and to add options when playing against them

[@drumstick9302]

This is cool,but these ships will be moving in a actual game.

[@ted5567]

2 steps from hell i guess but which tracks?

[@allendavis3496]

great if the ships are not moving really lol

[@NotCondorTheBird]

Man I wish the enemy team didn't move or shoot back in my games !

[@smoore8552]

Song names? Please. It is just too good.

[@giuseppe4470]

Snipe cvs is the new meta….

[@valentinoluckyd4566]

what kind soviet bomber is that

[@gergofordospecs7475]

2:47 how called this music ?

[@dedyarief996]

May i know what the music is ?

[@theraiderguy1118]

When will these ships be able to be researched?

[@virusproofficial1086]

I think in November

[@almightydeity]

Everything but Chkalov. You can freely get the Komsomolets with the event points from completing event tasks pretty easily.

[@theraiderguy1118]

@@almightydeity okay, thanks!

[@eyerutherford]

Can someone share with me how to get all planes drop the torpedoes at the same time? In my game and my planes take turns to drop torpedoes one plane at a time, instead of the video shown here...so how to do that please?

[@impaccttt2090]

Thats the soviet carrier ability it can only do 1 attack run other carriers cant do that

[@onefastsled]

You’re using the Hosho I’m guessing, part if it’s Torpedo flight is that it uses one plane at a time

[@rskril532]

Ok, but can you turn on AA guns on ship?

[@doducduy96]

RU CVs are pretty weak IMO. You'll be down 2-3 planes before you can accurately strike the target and that takes out ~30% the alpha already. and any player with just a little bit of turning can avoid about half of the alpha. As a BB main I find out RN and RU CVs are just an annoyance most of the time unlike the real threats when a Hakuryu/Midway/MVR decides to focus you. I played Serov for a while and it's just underwhelming and can provide very little influence to the battle except for occasionally jackpot run into a camping, broadside, no support nearby ships. I'd pick Ryujo over Serov 100% of the time.

[@osito2dancer]

I think Serov has a bigger potential to face T8 than Ryujo, since the 1 strike alpha is not bad. You have to take advantage of the speed and distance, prediction is the key, specially if you are supporting an attacking ship.

[@benjaxalo8698]

I am a CV player for me it is fine to have little life, since they make 1 attack and their generation is very fast, if the planes will last a little longer ... surely we would have to see how the players of the other classes cry , asking to be nerfed

[@user-hu7ql7fr2l]

what is that music??

[@marioar1987]

First! TT do you think the soviet cv line is op?

[@tonyennis1787]

Of course.

[@TTier]

in my opinion chkalov and serov overpowered

[@Mibu13]

serov planes are way out of scale there is no way those would land but in WG fantasy land all is good just wtf

[@tepesvoda464]

Best joke ever: Russian CV's. Ships that never made it past artist concept or wishfull thinking. But Russian Ego and bias must pe addressed: the Potemkin's Village. At least în videogames they must have aircraf carriers, if in reality they don't.

[@danh7411]

Ahh yes Russian bias joke in 2021.

[@MFGIkariam]

Oh... just like German CVs

[@onefastsled]

Most of everyones shit past Tier 7 is shit that was never built, the American BBs? Nope, German anything? Nope, With WoW maintaining the 4 class system, using plans and unbuilt ships is an inevitable, especially considering everyone stopped using Battleships after WW2, and considering the Tier X stuff is just before initial Cold War stuff? Ya

[@amopershing2204]

still waiting WG for Stalinium FDR 😅

[@tientaicao4200]

song name

[@fanatik2134]

Tier VI Cv maked more damage then a Tier X perfectly fine good job balancing department. Oh i forgot they are busy with drinking vodka.

[@jasonshen7600]

chakalov = better midway

[@jelezRU]

как смачно залетает

[@leosmith7967]

Game Name

[@nitrozeus2666]

What purpose serves machinegun?

[@tonyennis1787]

aiming aid

[@nitrozeus2666]

@@tonyennis1787 acutally I find it way harder to shot at nimble targets

[@tonyennis1787]

@@nitrozeus2666 Oh I see. Perhaps it is equivalent to having to line a shot up, like with bombs and torps.

[@danielalvaradohernandez6977]

"i will try to show the potential" with static and without defensive weapons ships.... oh see..... ALL destroyers can ...yes! "destroy" ALL Ships in this game with just a salvo of torpedoes. 4 Years crying for CVs.... man, for one day pls, for only a day stop cry for CVs, and try learn to play. Now will cry a lot for submarines and will say again and again that submarines did not exist during the great wars.

[@user-un1or8zf4j]

Ой лучше бы этого не делали вообще ни какой историчности один лётный беспредел. И авианосцы это вообще бред. Я понимаю танки были на бумаге , но авианосцы и самолеты типа FW 189 это перебор

[@ST-tn9ow]

so basically these are FDR's but more effective and consistent

[@shadowco9900]

It's FDR, but in tier 8

[@almightydeity]

But without the massive and repeating DB harassment and indefinite spot time. FDR isn't the most broken because she hits hard, she's the most broken because she doesn't care about most AA, and can stay above you while dropping 24Ks on you and burning you down with triple permas.

[@Adplosive]

@@almightydeity totally agree, FDR doesn't have the highest dmg potential, but if a DD needs to die you can sit on their head for minutes in FDR, regardless of whether it's a halland or not. I've personally gotten 300k spotting dmg in FDR before.

[@bryanfan3175]

BALANS

[@andykashin3633]

абсолютно бессмысленное видео

[@metalmarc9542]

More toxic CV’s nobody asked for!

[@sethypoo1369]

why the hate for US ships? LOL

[@P3XCot]

Seriously chkalav is stupidly too much overpowered

[@Dominus_Potatus]

this is stupid.. i can see CV vs CV fight all over again. Mark mg word, I'll hunt CV first so the enemy will have not so fun games

[@Adplosive]

Tbh it would be interesting to see who would win in a MvR Vs Nakimov fight, as MvRs rockets are pretty good at CV sniping too and faster, but Nakimov won't lose planes really

[@Dominus_Potatus]

broken CV it literally negates AA. Chkalov is the worst.. Bow in to torpedoes bomb and still ate 4 torpedoes

[@tremox9786]

@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 Well, they negate fighter planes from surface ship, TBF they were already pretty useless before. The rest might be the usual "AA useless" CV bashing without any real first-hand experience or knowledge.

[@almightydeity]

@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 unless you have good Russian AA, T10 skip DBs can literally drop before your AA has a chance to fire, and certainly before it has a chance to down any of them. Their range is ~6km and anything but DD eats most of them if they're parallel to the drop

[@almightydeity]

@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 If your ship is high T10 skips have like 100m of play to it. If you're a Petro, you'll eat 1 or 2, but if you're a BB you'll usually eat 4 regardless of rudder.

[@Adplosive]

@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 this is just the "just dodge" argument again. There are circumstances where you cannot turn into CV planes for fear of broadsiding BBs, CVs are broken for instantly being able to setup cross fires without having to risk themselves. So telling someone who has to angle to survive to turn into the coming skip bombers really isn't useful because this gives them the choice of being ciradelled by enemy BBs for like 30k dmg or staying angled and taking the 6 skip bombs for 15k dmg + triple fire

[@Schorch1962]

Toptier, why putting water on the mills of the "CV OP" crybabies? Hitting standing ships without AA is unrealistic. Even Bots use sector prio now, and they dodge not only with rudder, but with stopping and accelerating. Try to hit a human played Huanghe with Serow that hard or just a DD with the rockets, with luck you´ll score 1 - 3 hits and lose some planes before the drop. Played Serow last evening in cw and it is not the easy way with her. There are 2 Huanghe, they have smoke all the time and with a DD as spotter they shoot down many planes before the drop. The problem is not outplaying the bursts, just the pure DPM that can´t be avoided. I had the "pleasure" to lose 1 rocket plane to a Hatsuharu by just spotting her for 2 or 3 seconds. Torps are slow and have a very long time before the warheads are ready, so they´re easy to dodge and most time only 1 or 2 will hit. My average damage output was a little higher compared to Weser or Furious, my spotting damage a little less. But my team said they´ve noticed no difference in their gameplay between Weser and Serow. I noticed that Serow is easier to deplane compared to Weser because there´s no pre-drop possible and Serow has slower and lower HP planes. Try a single, fully armed Cleveland Bot with your tier 8 soviets, after that, tell us how OP Cleveland AA is 😂