I feel sorry for the Italian ships with their ~4.6km AA they're not even gonna get to shoot the planes before they eat 3 fires and 15k dmg
@FrankieMankie2 жыл бұрын
When the Serov (tier 6) does more alpha damage with all types of armament than the Implacable (tier 8) you realize something aint right...
@sorrow26072 жыл бұрын
Because its T6 Season and you can get it for Money.
@mayshiratoshi63902 жыл бұрын
At the first design RNCV is for flood/fire dps damage. But got hard neft on that cuz WG said it op. (But it's still true. That it's kind of op when came out.) Then they release this. The better version of "flood/fire dps damage" cuz it still have so much anoying raw dpm (cuz they attack only need one strike)
@patricknguyen74612 жыл бұрын
Taking to account that non of your airplane got shot down
@TallEdge90 Жыл бұрын
Yes it is right they have no hp
@grandadmiraldavid2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for identifying the music tracks in the video. The background music was always a great part of your videos.
@Talguy212 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but these seem to be pretty good at harassing enemy CVs with damage. Their reasonably high alphas, long attack range, and single-use squadrons mean that the enemy auto-fighters won't get much of a chance to lock on and chew up your planes for the trouble. This is ofc ignoring that the planes are pretty slow so going for a CV (i.e. sniping them early) is probably a waste of time and effort.
@mikkodoria47782 жыл бұрын
You can only do that up to tier 6, because remember the aa accuracy on cv is %100 , and tier 8 above will shred youre planes, maybe except the tier 8 ijn.
@almightydeity2 жыл бұрын
@@mikkodoria4778 Not true. The skips on Chkalov and Nakhimov are ~6km and accurate at that range. They're reliable at efficiently harassing CVs without major losses. Torps are also long range but exceedingly slow unless at minimum arming distance. Those may also make it through with 1-2 losses on most CVs as long as you boost through fighter.
@ruffianeo3418 Жыл бұрын
Serov vs ranger on average map size - it takes 3 good sorties to kill the ranger. Which translates to around 4 minutes. Its fun but not sure if it is the most effective use of time for the first 4 minutes of a battle.
@rendevc44142 жыл бұрын
if there was no MAchin gun thing in rocket plane, this tech tree will sure be as par with Hakuryuu
@Black-1ce2 жыл бұрын
Haku is bad now. Most times my squadrons get deleted before I even get to finish my attack run, and that's with careful flying like using planes early before using them on enemies to minimise losses later and avoid having 2 planes left only 5 minutes in lol. The rocket plane rework honestly made rocket planes useless in TX
@underviv642 жыл бұрын
So it’s a more versatile fdr Instead of hovering around for a bit inbetween big strikes You just have the ability to change your armament and position on the map between each strike. Maybe the spotting potential is reduced?
@Dominus_Potatus2 жыл бұрын
just use FT for spotting. This CV breaks everyanti air mechanism. All anti air mechanism is to deter 2nd or 3rd strikes. imagine, kaga is releasing 6 torpedoes, who cares about paper planes?
@mikkodoria47782 жыл бұрын
@@Dominus_Potatus and this cv has better aiming than Kaga torp bombers
@byr0n2 жыл бұрын
@@mikkodoria4778 yeah the torps from these cvs are such a fucking joke lol, such a great and necessary addition to the game!!!
@almightydeity2 жыл бұрын
@@byr0n IF they hit. They have a long arming range and are very slow.
@mayshiratoshi63902 жыл бұрын
@@almightydeity And this meta is called "Camping Meta" where people camp at island/max range or use half speed more than sail full flank
@volknetai.36902 жыл бұрын
Like FDR. Its potential come from great single strike but take time to attack again
@mikkodoria47782 жыл бұрын
But the down time for is annoying, and planes are slow
@almightydeity2 жыл бұрын
FDR can usually grab a coffee, relax, rub one out, and watch an anime before you need to send another squadron out except for a rare few ships. FDR can pretty reliably drop 2 full hits and mark on anything not pushing AA skills or DFAA.
@AlphaFox382 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Thank you for taking the time to test.
@nitrozeus26662 жыл бұрын
I laughed when Serov did 14k to bb
@Antifox992 жыл бұрын
Being fair, Weser can deal 14k dmg to a BB in one drop too
@a_wisepenny92272 жыл бұрын
i love the fact that the fighter shoot bullets at the ship
@murasakiyatsu88332 жыл бұрын
Thats a rubber bullet they didnt do any dmg
@mariebcfhs9491 Жыл бұрын
the soviet carriers are basically cruisers that fire airplanes as their salvo
@DEATHRAGE1572 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking on my request toptier.
@Zelectrocutica2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly balans as i expected.
@jaywerner84152 жыл бұрын
At least shooting the planes down lowers the damage protentional, more then i can say for every other Carrier line. God i hope they change them over to this style of attack, it just feels so much better on both ends.
@alpha1games2752 жыл бұрын
you do realize that the other cvs also loose damage in subsequent runs, really if look at it closer the russian cvs barely ever take AA damage thanks to the extended range of their squadrons even their rocket planes have 3-4 km range thats half the AA range of most ships (t10)
@deadhorse33892 жыл бұрын
Full Potential of Torps and Rockets of all Soviet CVs *fixed it*
@shadowco99002 жыл бұрын
Pobeda and Chkalov are FDR in tier 8
@briappa66702 жыл бұрын
It's great that they're adding soviet carriers. I've been waiting for them since I started playing the game, though I tought that's not gonna happen because I heard soviets didn't have many Aircraft carriers. In fact they have 1 at the moment.
@onefastsled2 жыл бұрын
It’s a damn good thing WoW has most if it’s ships being design concepts, basically anything but the Submarines for Germany after tier VII is like that, same with all their Carriers
@sloopypotato Жыл бұрын
But the paper planes on Chkalov get easily destroyed for a high tier ships specially when you got uptier match those superships and tier X ships shreds your bomber and torps plane like a paper before deliver the package only the skip bomber is more reliable sometimes torps work only on lonely lost BB tho
@yamato-zi7yk2 жыл бұрын
I got sniped in the Ranger a couple of times from this ship.
@yamato-zi7yk2 жыл бұрын
Realized I meant to put Serov.
@stefanovvladirimovich17822 жыл бұрын
Really? I got sniped by Serov while i was in Konig and second time when i was in bayern...i was like "what the actual fuck,that's too op wg,literally took 20k of my hp in a single run"
@tonyennis17872 жыл бұрын
Don't normal torpedoes have a spread when they are dropped? This is rather all or nothing, and the "all" looks very concerning.
@TheBaralinChannel2 жыл бұрын
Eh, I have them. It's only concerning if you're camping. Which, say what you will, but if you get struck by these twice, you kinda deserve to die.
@onefastsled2 жыл бұрын
Not really, some CVs drop them slightly angled, but most will have them ramrod
@Bigbacon Жыл бұрын
and then you play it in a real game and your flight get shredded by a single low tier ship.
@TacticalBeard2 жыл бұрын
“ Balanced “
@lilmaniac5732 жыл бұрын
Hmm the Serov does more dmg than midway rocket salvo?
@nitrozeus26662 жыл бұрын
So these attack planes do average 20x times damage that german attackers do to battleships
@Adplosive2 жыл бұрын
German attack aircraft are meant for citadelling cruiser broadsides not attacking BBs, but yeah the Soviet alpha strikes are the highest alpha dmg planes now
@fignap86682 жыл бұрын
They are OP at dealing damage, but there is also a big BUT. The bad thing is hp of squadron, and it's really big spot range. So any ship will have enough time to ask their CV to put fighters or call by themselves, or just prepare their AA range. If you are new player i don't recommend you those CV's.
@giantdwarfulf2 жыл бұрын
you really don’t need the squadron hp because you only have one drop. AA is designed in a way to prevent oder deter any 2nd, 3rd and 4th drop. The ship’s fighters only attack after the first drop and CV‘s fighters attack a bit sooner but with fast planes you can still outrun them and make your drop. Unless you don’t run into flak which generally isn’t too hard, there is no chance to prevent that drop. So if all the damage from your squadron is in the first drop which is almost impossible to prevent, does that sound fair and balanced to you?
@fignap86682 жыл бұрын
@@giantdwarfulf but bruh just compare the squadron hp of KAGA and Chkalov. And you think that enemy ships are always alone with bad AA? They usually swim together to counter CV's.
@giantdwarfulf2 жыл бұрын
@@fignap8668 i can only repeat what i said: you cant prevent the first strike, no matter of the squadron hp. This ship is better at dealing damage than Kaga. Watch the 300k replay ttier posted yesterday… is there any time the player lost his planes before the first drop? No! There wasn’t. This ship is busted as it is
@giantdwarfulf2 жыл бұрын
@@fignap8668 the best thing is that you can attack from outside AA range with skip bombers so the enemy team stacking AA is useless for them. The concept of these CVs is just dumb
@almightydeity2 жыл бұрын
@@fignap8668 Skip bombs don't care about your bad AA's feelings.
@PterryDactyl882 жыл бұрын
with the skip bombs for dd's try to line up the very first line with their ship so the bombs dont bounce and just fall onto the dd
@66_y112 жыл бұрын
it just pisses me off that the torpedoes fall into the water at like a 90* angle i dont know why, but it just does
@yichenqiao87722 жыл бұрын
intresting bounce bomb
@fabriciomarquezrubio89982 жыл бұрын
Our Aircraft Carriers
@darkrhino32062 жыл бұрын
Balans they said 🤣🤣🤣
@kismaaja2262 жыл бұрын
After play soviet CV is really fun
@ZarguesRD292 жыл бұрын
2:52 U can Get always ciudadels if u aim just The base The crusiers
@asdfjklol2 жыл бұрын
At 4:12 did one of those bombs miss and hit the New Mexico behind the one you were aiming at?
@loremuwu62412 жыл бұрын
Yes, its called skip bombing. The bombs basically skips across the water. Its like stone skipping but the stones are explosive.
@dzulfikarahmadfauzan64052 жыл бұрын
Imagine nakhimov...
@Russiangamerpro20212 жыл бұрын
That’s weird if they got it Soviet carriers that’s technically weird that’s pretty cool I think this is gonna be the first so we had aircraft carrier in the whole wide world and warships because I do believe all the worship of legends and if they do that maybe one day if I can make the company for a while worship of legends
@merdwardo20852 жыл бұрын
Are you good?
@Russiangamerpro20212 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Russiangamerpro20212 жыл бұрын
I was wonder are you good 👍
@merdwardo20852 жыл бұрын
@@Russiangamerpro2021 yes yes i very good 💪👈🔥😀
@Russiangamerpro20212 жыл бұрын
I want to ask ask the company for a while worship of legends for bringing Sophia carriers
@Jax27772 жыл бұрын
I dont want to hear anyone complaining about hakuryu
@rys4k2 жыл бұрын
I think we will se change of kosmomolets name in future (it was a submarine)
@user-gm4jx6xl3b2 жыл бұрын
I like the soundtrack of your video but can I have the song list please?
@atzeatzig3622 жыл бұрын
spreadsheet: B A L A N C E D
@trondboe68252 жыл бұрын
yes all the ships are standing still and are boots
@diegobasanta22 жыл бұрын
Only skip bombers are useful against dds. With 4 or 5 DD MM and potato dds players it's very hard play well. I miss RPF in planes. Use hidden menace.
@alexandrecosta12466 ай бұрын
is it only me or he dindt show the tier X nakhimov
@JYF9212 жыл бұрын
Why no Admiral nakhimov yet?
@treeherder422 жыл бұрын
Early access has not included it, so either TT doesn't have it or has a super test version and is not allowed to show it yet due to NDA.
@ainsleyhariott43532 жыл бұрын
Any reason for the chkalov skip bombers test you directly dropped on the DD instead of going for the second notch @toptier
@yemannwaiphyo88172 жыл бұрын
So, Soviet CVs Alpha Damage shows it's max potential for Sniping Enemy CVs, since . . . auto pilot. Interesting.
@jagsdomain2032 жыл бұрын
In actual battle you wont get the planes in there.
@4nix5912 жыл бұрын
Yea, as the title said, this is just a demonstration of their full potential...
@almightydeity2 жыл бұрын
You will get those DBs in though. Haven't had much trouble dropping torps, either, as long as I saved boost for the approach.
@tremox97862 жыл бұрын
Interesting, RU CVs might be real potent against DDs with their tight torp spread and low arming distance skip bombers. Cruiser and BBs might be harder to strike without losing planes before.
@almightydeity2 жыл бұрын
That's the thing. Both Chkalov and Nakhimov have an extra skip which puts them right around 6km max skip. Their skips can literally hit outside of most ships' range, or so quickly after entering that AA rarely has a chance to fire. 3-5 hits is pretty easy, and high cruisers and BBs can still catch a good distance between the skips. Torps are tight but will be very slow with a long arming distance. You shouldn't expect to nail DDs with them, but hitting slow cruisers or BBs should be reliable assuming they're going max speed. Chkalov's standard bombs are ideal to hit DDs hard. For low-AA DDs any skip can be directly dropped as well with very little lead.
@tremox97862 жыл бұрын
@@almightydeity 11:43 Looks like a max skip distance of around 4 km with engine boost in Chaklov, which is still impressive. But Immelman has the same distance and you still take AA dmg with her while striking. The more interesting thing is the first skip by around 1 km, which allows you to immediately strike DDs when they open.
@almightydeity2 жыл бұрын
@@tremox9786 It's not, it's 6km. I have the ship. They're 6km skips and they're fantastic at chunking CVs and BBs at that distance. Their skips are hard to land on DDs due to their height and variance but high ships will still reliably be hit. For DDs skips should be treated like regular DBs.
@npc.no12 жыл бұрын
yeah i think ima switch from British cv for Russia cvs
@SmokeDrake2 жыл бұрын
Other then eating up time between the attack order and the rocket's launching, is there any point to the MG's firing? All it does is tell the target ship "Were going to rocket you!"
@jonogrossett84072 жыл бұрын
Thats the point, to balance the rocket attack planes a little and to add options when playing against them
@drumstick93022 жыл бұрын
This is cool,but these ships will be moving in a actual game.
@ted55672 жыл бұрын
2 steps from hell i guess but which tracks?
@allendavis34962 жыл бұрын
great if the ships are not moving really lol
@NotCondorTheBird2 жыл бұрын
Man I wish the enemy team didn't move or shoot back in my games !
@smoore85522 жыл бұрын
Song names? Please. It is just too good.
@giuseppe44702 жыл бұрын
Snipe cvs is the new meta….
@valentinoluckyd45662 жыл бұрын
what kind soviet bomber is that
@gergofordospecs74752 жыл бұрын
2:47 how called this music ?
@dedyarief9962 жыл бұрын
May i know what the music is ?
@theraiderguy11182 жыл бұрын
When will these ships be able to be researched?
@virusproofficial10862 жыл бұрын
I think in November
@almightydeity2 жыл бұрын
Everything but Chkalov. You can freely get the Komsomolets with the event points from completing event tasks pretty easily.
@theraiderguy11182 жыл бұрын
@@almightydeity okay, thanks!
@eyerutherford2 жыл бұрын
Can someone share with me how to get all planes drop the torpedoes at the same time? In my game and my planes take turns to drop torpedoes one plane at a time, instead of the video shown here...so how to do that please?
@impaccttt20902 жыл бұрын
Thats the soviet carrier ability it can only do 1 attack run other carriers cant do that
@onefastsled2 жыл бұрын
You’re using the Hosho I’m guessing, part if it’s Torpedo flight is that it uses one plane at a time
@rskril5322 жыл бұрын
Ok, but can you turn on AA guns on ship?
@doducduy962 жыл бұрын
RU CVs are pretty weak IMO. You'll be down 2-3 planes before you can accurately strike the target and that takes out ~30% the alpha already. and any player with just a little bit of turning can avoid about half of the alpha. As a BB main I find out RN and RU CVs are just an annoyance most of the time unlike the real threats when a Hakuryu/Midway/MVR decides to focus you. I played Serov for a while and it's just underwhelming and can provide very little influence to the battle except for occasionally jackpot run into a camping, broadside, no support nearby ships. I'd pick Ryujo over Serov 100% of the time.
@osito2dancer2 жыл бұрын
I think Serov has a bigger potential to face T8 than Ryujo, since the 1 strike alpha is not bad. You have to take advantage of the speed and distance, prediction is the key, specially if you are supporting an attacking ship.
@benjaxalo86982 жыл бұрын
I am a CV player for me it is fine to have little life, since they make 1 attack and their generation is very fast, if the planes will last a little longer ... surely we would have to see how the players of the other classes cry , asking to be nerfed
@user-hu7ql7fr2l2 жыл бұрын
what is that music??
@marioar19872 жыл бұрын
First! TT do you think the soviet cv line is op?
@tonyennis17872 жыл бұрын
Of course.
@TTier2 жыл бұрын
in my opinion chkalov and serov overpowered
@Mibu132 жыл бұрын
serov planes are way out of scale there is no way those would land but in WG fantasy land all is good just wtf
@tepesvoda4642 жыл бұрын
Best joke ever: Russian CV's. Ships that never made it past artist concept or wishfull thinking. But Russian Ego and bias must pe addressed: the Potemkin's Village. At least în videogames they must have aircraf carriers, if in reality they don't.
@danh74112 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes Russian bias joke in 2021.
@MFGIkariam2 жыл бұрын
Oh... just like German CVs
@onefastsled2 жыл бұрын
Most of everyones shit past Tier 7 is shit that was never built, the American BBs? Nope, German anything? Nope, With WoW maintaining the 4 class system, using plans and unbuilt ships is an inevitable, especially considering everyone stopped using Battleships after WW2, and considering the Tier X stuff is just before initial Cold War stuff? Ya
@amopershing22042 жыл бұрын
still waiting WG for Stalinium FDR 😅
@tientaicao42002 жыл бұрын
song name
@fanatik21342 жыл бұрын
Tier VI Cv maked more damage then a Tier X perfectly fine good job balancing department. Oh i forgot they are busy with drinking vodka.
@jasonshen76002 жыл бұрын
chakalov = better midway
@jelezRU2 жыл бұрын
как смачно залетает
@leosmith79672 жыл бұрын
Game Name
@nitrozeus26662 жыл бұрын
What purpose serves machinegun?
@tonyennis17872 жыл бұрын
aiming aid
@nitrozeus26662 жыл бұрын
@@tonyennis1787 acutally I find it way harder to shot at nimble targets
@tonyennis17872 жыл бұрын
@@nitrozeus2666 Oh I see. Perhaps it is equivalent to having to line a shot up, like with bombs and torps.
@danielalvaradohernandez6977 Жыл бұрын
"i will try to show the potential" with static and without defensive weapons ships.... oh see..... ALL destroyers can ...yes! "destroy" ALL Ships in this game with just a salvo of torpedoes. 4 Years crying for CVs.... man, for one day pls, for only a day stop cry for CVs, and try learn to play. Now will cry a lot for submarines and will say again and again that submarines did not exist during the great wars.
@user-un1or8zf4j2 жыл бұрын
Ой лучше бы этого не делали вообще ни какой историчности один лётный беспредел. И авианосцы это вообще бред. Я понимаю танки были на бумаге , но авианосцы и самолеты типа FW 189 это перебор
@ST-tn9ow2 жыл бұрын
so basically these are FDR's but more effective and consistent
@shadowco99002 жыл бұрын
It's FDR, but in tier 8
@almightydeity2 жыл бұрын
But without the massive and repeating DB harassment and indefinite spot time. FDR isn't the most broken because she hits hard, she's the most broken because she doesn't care about most AA, and can stay above you while dropping 24Ks on you and burning you down with triple permas.
@Adplosive2 жыл бұрын
@@almightydeity totally agree, FDR doesn't have the highest dmg potential, but if a DD needs to die you can sit on their head for minutes in FDR, regardless of whether it's a halland or not. I've personally gotten 300k spotting dmg in FDR before.
@bryanfan31752 жыл бұрын
BALANS
@andykashin36332 жыл бұрын
абсолютно бессмысленное видео
@metalmarc95422 жыл бұрын
More toxic CV’s nobody asked for!
@sethypoo13692 жыл бұрын
why the hate for US ships? LOL
@P3XCot2 жыл бұрын
Seriously chkalav is stupidly too much overpowered
@Dominus_Potatus2 жыл бұрын
this is stupid.. i can see CV vs CV fight all over again. Mark mg word, I'll hunt CV first so the enemy will have not so fun games
@Adplosive2 жыл бұрын
Tbh it would be interesting to see who would win in a MvR Vs Nakimov fight, as MvRs rockets are pretty good at CV sniping too and faster, but Nakimov won't lose planes really
@Dominus_Potatus2 жыл бұрын
broken CV it literally negates AA. Chkalov is the worst.. Bow in to torpedoes bomb and still ate 4 torpedoes
@tremox97862 жыл бұрын
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 Well, they negate fighter planes from surface ship, TBF they were already pretty useless before. The rest might be the usual "AA useless" CV bashing without any real first-hand experience or knowledge.
@almightydeity2 жыл бұрын
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 unless you have good Russian AA, T10 skip DBs can literally drop before your AA has a chance to fire, and certainly before it has a chance to down any of them. Their range is ~6km and anything but DD eats most of them if they're parallel to the drop
@almightydeity2 жыл бұрын
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 If your ship is high T10 skips have like 100m of play to it. If you're a Petro, you'll eat 1 or 2, but if you're a BB you'll usually eat 4 regardless of rudder.
@Adplosive2 жыл бұрын
@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 this is just the "just dodge" argument again. There are circumstances where you cannot turn into CV planes for fear of broadsiding BBs, CVs are broken for instantly being able to setup cross fires without having to risk themselves. So telling someone who has to angle to survive to turn into the coming skip bombers really isn't useful because this gives them the choice of being ciradelled by enemy BBs for like 30k dmg or staying angled and taking the 6 skip bombs for 15k dmg + triple fire
@Schorch19622 жыл бұрын
Toptier, why putting water on the mills of the "CV OP" crybabies? Hitting standing ships without AA is unrealistic. Even Bots use sector prio now, and they dodge not only with rudder, but with stopping and accelerating. Try to hit a human played Huanghe with Serow that hard or just a DD with the rockets, with luck you´ll score 1 - 3 hits and lose some planes before the drop. Played Serow last evening in cw and it is not the easy way with her. There are 2 Huanghe, they have smoke all the time and with a DD as spotter they shoot down many planes before the drop. The problem is not outplaying the bursts, just the pure DPM that can´t be avoided. I had the "pleasure" to lose 1 rocket plane to a Hatsuharu by just spotting her for 2 or 3 seconds. Torps are slow and have a very long time before the warheads are ready, so they´re easy to dodge and most time only 1 or 2 will hit. My average damage output was a little higher compared to Weser or Furious, my spotting damage a little less. But my team said they´ve noticed no difference in their gameplay between Weser and Serow. I noticed that Serow is easier to deplane compared to Weser because there´s no pre-drop possible and Serow has slower and lower HP planes. Try a single, fully armed Cleveland Bot with your tier 8 soviets, after that, tell us how OP Cleveland AA is 😂