"Full-Range" KEF LS50 META with the KEF KC62 Subwoofer

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This is the KEF KC62 subwoofer review. KEF LS50 speakers have gained massive recognition. Now the KEF ls50 META... But now imagine a full-range version of the KEF LS50 with massive bass capabilities. I introduce you... the ls50 subwoofer - KEF KC62 subwoofer.
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@Jayiyagi
@Jayiyagi 3 жыл бұрын
One thing to note: I did not have the subwoofer placed like in the video. I had them in the left corner. Obviously this was hard to film so we brought it out for filming purposes. kef ls50 meta review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nomuimuse8mki9U This video is not sponsored for more info on how we work: nbtsmedia.com/about-us/​ KEF KC62: www.shop.ca.kef.com/speaker/stereo-speakers/subwoofers/kc62-subwoofer.html Kef LS50 Meta: us.kef.com/ls50-meta.html Kef LS50: amzn.to/37aaAhk Inexpensive but very good speaker stands: amzn.to/2TwmCdc
@chrisvinicombe9947
@chrisvinicombe9947 3 жыл бұрын
I was triggered when I saw the tube amp right next to it 😂
@dugenounonplie8162
@dugenounonplie8162 3 жыл бұрын
Earbuds for Kef M400 250 euros for a pair of earbuds in replacement, for headphone bought new 50 euros (original price of the headphone 250 euros, or the price of this spare part), while the leatherette is very thin and quickly detaches itself? I expected about ten euros, which I usually put in the competing models. 25 euros would have seemed very expensive, too expensive considering the poor quality, but 250 euros (240 Pounds) is unfortunately not a joke, but an incredible bullshit and a deliberate merchant choice that corresponds to wear and tear. I have always been faithful to the Kef brand for 40 years, but I understand that we are actually taken for pigeons, frankly it is like urinating on us. Fortunately Kef is not a car manufacturer, he would sell the 4 tires at the same price as the new car! Also, we notice that the construction of these earpieces does not correspond to what they seem to be, that is to say a natural rubber of good thickness to withstand time. In short, a good sound quality, but of the whole issue manufacturing, and a sales policy that is obvious robbery.
@jimfarrell4635
@jimfarrell4635 3 жыл бұрын
@@dugenounonplie8162 And your point is ? I thought we were talking subs here 😉
@dugenounonplie8162
@dugenounonplie8162 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimfarrell4635 My point is that KEF was a fantastic compagny, but is not still today ! A big shame !
@jimfarrell4635
@jimfarrell4635 3 жыл бұрын
@@dugenounonplie8162 Fair enough, Dugenou. It just seemed a bit of an abrupt shift in topic. I do feel Kef remain highly innovative but some of their pricing can indeed be off-putting.
@SmallRoomAudio
@SmallRoomAudio 3 жыл бұрын
Top review Jay - loving the backdrop and professional production quality, you really are taking it to the next level man!
@stefanschuchardt5734
@stefanschuchardt5734 3 жыл бұрын
His listening room looks heavenly!
@SmallRoomAudio
@SmallRoomAudio 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely planned out isn’t it - inspired me to redo mine!
@larsverwaters3423
@larsverwaters3423 3 жыл бұрын
Got the old ls50 with a rel t7 also very nice setup sound incredible
@dennisgrima4054
@dennisgrima4054 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly as mine fed with marantz integrated amp & CD a very well match set up
@goingfurther8092
@goingfurther8092 3 жыл бұрын
Really happy I found this channel great great review dude
@FireTriode
@FireTriode 3 жыл бұрын
So, instead of upgrading my original LS-50s to the Metas right now, I believe that I will put that money towards this subwoofer first! Thanks Jay! Great content, as always.
@Unicorn-ST
@Unicorn-ST 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you. I am sure you'll get more benefit adding the KC62 than changing to the Meta.
@walterdockins8475
@walterdockins8475 3 жыл бұрын
I think any well integrated subwoofer is an upgrade to the LS50's. However this new line of kef subs seems to expand on the previous generation products. Pretty cool!
@kohnfutner9637
@kohnfutner9637 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like a smart move to me. Give the meta some time to work out it's bugs.
@grahmpike9032
@grahmpike9032 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Cory, I was wondering what your opinion is on the LS50s? I have had quite a few speakers to date and find it hard to believe that a speaker this small can reproduce a full range quality sound. Would love to hear your opinion.
@walterdockins8475
@walterdockins8475 3 жыл бұрын
@@grahmpike9032 They don't have much bass. They spec at 79Hz-28kHz, +/-3dB, with a -6dB point of 49Hz. They will measure in the mid 40Hz range in some rooms. IMO, a well integrated sub is a must for some if lower bass and impact is desired.
@MrDoc55
@MrDoc55 3 жыл бұрын
I just got the Metas. Love your reviews. They are always helpful and unbiased. Thanks!
@DigitalPhilosophers
@DigitalPhilosophers 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your honesty! Please stay as independent as you are. That makes the worth of a review!
@daveariens5427
@daveariens5427 3 жыл бұрын
Mine arrived today. Using it with a pair of Kef LS50 Meta's and a NAD M10 in a nearfield setup. The sub woofer it's replacing felt and sounded like a sub whereas the KC62 sounds more like my meta's just got WAY larger and more powerful. They pair incredibly well, I'm crossing them over at 80Hz.
@trun1979
@trun1979 3 жыл бұрын
What's the best crossover + volume setting when paired with Metas? I'm driving them with a Hegel H190
@kevtn8
@kevtn8 Жыл бұрын
Curious are you high passing the Meta with KC62 as well ? The Kc62 are one of few subwoofers that gives you RCA high pass.
@mariopenzo
@mariopenzo 3 жыл бұрын
I have the LS50WII + KC62 combo and it is truly fantastic. Awesome for both music and home theater. Perfect marriage.
@dougg1075
@dougg1075 3 жыл бұрын
I bet.
@ISETbioDev.Cottaris
@ISETbioDev.Cottaris 3 жыл бұрын
one or stereo subs?
@mariopenzo
@mariopenzo 3 жыл бұрын
@@ISETbioDev.Cottaris one. I have the LPF set to 45 Hz on the KEF app which is about the -3 db point for the speakers. Integration was super easy. As Jay mentioned the bass is very fast and accurate and incredibly deep.
@LuxAudio389
@LuxAudio389 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have the LS 50 Wireless ii as well with two REL T5I's, and the KEF app definitely makes integration a breeze and there are more features coming. The EQ settings make this a very tunable system. The other parts of the app in regards to the streaming services needs more work.
@mariopenzo
@mariopenzo 3 жыл бұрын
@@LuxAudio389 agree. The phase correction is also pretty cool.
@wolverine3344
@wolverine3344 3 жыл бұрын
After looking at REL and SVS it looks like I just found the sub for the Ls50 Meta I ordered yesterday. Many thanks.
@cainification
@cainification 7 ай бұрын
REL also blends great with most speakers
@bobe2933
@bobe2933 3 жыл бұрын
what you are "feeling" is the low bass. Measure this beast, if you get a chance and have time! ! Thanks for the review/presentation.
@flashhog01
@flashhog01 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that sounds like a great product! Glad to hear it wasn't just outlandish specs put on paper. Thanks for the review!
@somsci
@somsci 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for testing it with the maggies.
@garykarlin1777
@garykarlin1777 3 жыл бұрын
Most important thing: How does it make the main speakers (LS50, for example) sound? Ideally, it should transform a speaker like the LS50 into the best of all possible worlds -- the advantages of a good small speaker with the bass and scale of a big one.
@mikhailyadav
@mikhailyadav 2 жыл бұрын
It does!!
@kevtn8
@kevtn8 Жыл бұрын
@@mikhailyadav Do you have the LS50 Meta with a subwoofer ? If so how are you integrating the sub ? Thanks
@wolverine3344
@wolverine3344 Жыл бұрын
@@kevtn8 I have the same question, did you receive a response? I like the idea of speaker inout but without speaker output to the mains I guess we’d need to run another 2-ch amp , or use the rca in and outs ??
@DrGIzmoBRad
@DrGIzmoBRad 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the summary type review. Your description conveys all the info needed. I appreciate the use of both KEF and Magnepan speakers paired with the KC62 sub. The pro/con of the wired connections takes the surprise factor out of the picture.
@edshull
@edshull 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a review of the sub with the LS50W2.
@AlonAbraham1
@AlonAbraham1 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful room and setup. This could be the setup to live with.
@ISETbioDev.Cottaris
@ISETbioDev.Cottaris 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, great review. Do you plan to test the KC62 with the R3s? Also, did you highpass the LS50s ? And if you did, did you use the highpass output of the KC62?
@jimgardner5129
@jimgardner5129 3 жыл бұрын
I was prepared to ask the same question. The sub has speaker level IN but no speaker level OUT that I could see. So, bass management somewhere in the mix? His praise for the sound of the bookshelves suggests, "Yes".
@oleksiifilippov68
@oleksiifilippov68 3 жыл бұрын
I guess it’s like with Rel - speakers go full range, sub’s added from below. Works fine for me btw.
@ISETbioDev.Cottaris
@ISETbioDev.Cottaris 3 жыл бұрын
@@oleksiifilippov68 if the ls50 mid-range driver goes full range, them there is no benefit (to the ls50) from the sub . it would be better if there was offloading of low frequency stuff to the sub, so that the midrange driver can do a better job of transducing the mid frequency signal.
@oleksiifilippov68
@oleksiifilippov68 3 жыл бұрын
@@ISETbioDev.Cottaris oh, there’s a benefit. I run a sub just like that. More depth to the sound, fuller warmer midrange...
@benhagens2480
@benhagens2480 3 жыл бұрын
@@ISETbioDev.Cottaris You can do this if using LS50WII (through the app) or if using separate pre/power - wire up pre->KC62->power - the line output maintains stereo, and has a high pass filter that can be applied (the DIP switches on the rear)
@TomTom-xp2jb
@TomTom-xp2jb 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review!!! Such a small sub. Love it!!! Kef is next level for sure. 👍
@giangvu7902
@giangvu7902 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, I might have to give them a try.
@michaelcreaghan2612
@michaelcreaghan2612 3 жыл бұрын
Have just got the mets and now getting this Subwoofer will it be Fantastic 🎵👍💚
@Michael-xz1nk
@Michael-xz1nk 2 жыл бұрын
Looks wonderful in white. Sounds great too. I am an LS50 / KEF fan for sure. My only concern, as with any powered speakers, is their longevity. without issues. At its price, it needs to be problem free for 20+ years IMO. Many techs will not work on actives...heat problems, difficulty of getting parts long term, etc.
@kevtn8
@kevtn8 Жыл бұрын
In that case stay away from the Active version and stick to the passive Meta.
@Michael-xz1nk
@Michael-xz1nk Жыл бұрын
I certainly did. I bought passive.
@audiononsense1611
@audiononsense1611 3 ай бұрын
Jay, just some advice as to high level inputs (no matter the brand). Make a octopus cable (gauge of wire depends on two factors, length and output), at the sub end as in the case of the Kef, make a short jumper. I have been making these in my business for years with great results.
@roberleiton
@roberleiton 11 ай бұрын
Hi Jays! thanks for your review. Its very helpful. I have a one question, for a small-medium room you recommend a one K62 or two Rel (T5x or T7x) ?
@stockmarketman
@stockmarketman 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, now I have to buy it.
@jasonmichaels4791
@jasonmichaels4791 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay, Great review! Like your new decor and sonic room treatments - Can you do a video about what you did and the products you purchased?
@josexavierjr.5633
@josexavierjr.5633 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your review, Jay. The KC62 looks great, and I love the size. Reminds me of the Sunfire subwoofer from about 20 years ago.......similar compact size with 1200 watts, 6.5" woofer, and two radiators on the sides. Those sounded great too, blended well with any bookshelf speaker.
@petehelme7714
@petehelme7714 3 жыл бұрын
Ding ding. My Sunfire True Sub is still chugging along (after a plate amp replacement) with my Mirage HDT's, but the KC62 will definitely be on my short list when it's time for a replacement.
@MOAB-UT
@MOAB-UT Жыл бұрын
You can get that sub for $99 now! Times have changed.
@roccobruno8027
@roccobruno8027 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you're able to review the KEF KF92 one day.
@crazybus21
@crazybus21 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos! Would you prefer this Kef setup (KC62 and LS50 Meta ii/LS50 wireless ii) OR an A500 Buchardt with hub?
@eugeneong2241
@eugeneong2241 3 жыл бұрын
I am asking myself the same question. Problem is the a500 is set to deliver only in August for new orders while the ls50w2 and kc62 are available now
@crazybus21
@crazybus21 3 жыл бұрын
@@eugeneong2241 I ended up getting the LS50wii with the kc62 combo and I'm super happy with the purchase. The app is a lotttttt better than the old one.
@mikewolfe9458
@mikewolfe9458 8 ай бұрын
Hi Jay! Love the channel. I know this is from several years ago, but if you (or anyone in the comments) could share thoughts on the LS50 Meta/sub combo versus R3 Meta with no sub for 2 channel listening only that would be great. Take care and thanks for all the great content!
@parvezshaikhul
@parvezshaikhul 3 жыл бұрын
Great review so much explanation What will be max room size it will handle without going down. I was considering 2 Rel T5"s or 1 T7 for music purpose with LS 50 your review changed my mind. Please let me know Rel T5/T7 or this Kef sub is better for LS 50. Thnx
@pmizz7959
@pmizz7959 3 жыл бұрын
This is my EXACT dilemma right now. Just got the wireless 2s and and very torn between these 3 options to pair them with.
@larsverwaters3423
@larsverwaters3423 3 жыл бұрын
Got the ls50 with rel t7 is sound very good
@4EverJoyDivision
@4EverJoyDivision 3 жыл бұрын
Hello my friend! I remembered that some time ago you reviewed the REL T5i sub. What is your thoughts against the KEF sub?
@SmallRoomAudio
@SmallRoomAudio 3 жыл бұрын
I love my REL T5i but this looks like it takes things to the next level, and looks so cool at the same time. Think it might be upgrade time!
@Jayiyagi
@Jayiyagi 3 жыл бұрын
I briefly mention in the review that I preferred the kef kc62 than 2 rel t5i.
@billd9667
@billd9667 3 жыл бұрын
It’s to bad that the two woofers cans be configured independently to be out in dipole mode (synced) to better integrate with the Magnepans. Face one forward and the other back, yes? Also, If it wasn’t for the sealed nature and shared cabinet, one could place the woofer between a pair of speakers and get a stereo effect from one unit. That would be interesting
@4EverJoyDivision
@4EverJoyDivision 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jayiyagi, thanks a lot Jay. Take care!
@droneforfun5384
@droneforfun5384 3 жыл бұрын
What about KC62 vs REL s/510? For music? For movies? Im using medium sized floor standing speakers
@Ycaro
@Ycaro 3 жыл бұрын
I have the KEF LS50W and am looking for a subwoofer. Which do you recommend? I'm considdering these KEf KC62, KEF KF92, Rel T7i, Rel T9i, SVS SB 3000, or SVS SB 2000 Pro. I don't really care about home theater, only about music. I don' have a lot of placement options, that's why this small KC62 sounds appealing. But how does it compare to the bigger ones, like the SVS or the REL. (I just now also watched your review on the SB 3000 and wonder what your opinion is on this). My room size is about 5x8 meters by the way.
@HAL9007
@HAL9007 3 жыл бұрын
If I may and if you haven't already purchased, I'm playing Tannoy Cheviots in a medium room with lots of good quality A/B watts. You simply cannot beat REL T/7i hooked via the HL Speakon connection. I have one and it exploded my soundstage and dynamics, which was already really good. Just astonishing. I want to improve my 2-ch music, I don't want to feel that chest-thumping electronica bass the kids like. The RELs do this the best. The KC62 is smaller, easier to position and also should be hooked using speaker-level connection (with 16-gauge wire). Properly tuned and placed, the KC62s are 80% of the sound quality of the RELs. The KC62 cost quite a bit more expensive than the RELs. With the KC62, you are paying for the "cool" factor, smaller size, and maybe a little more placement flexibility. Both are really good.
@rolandrohde
@rolandrohde 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting Video, but I would have loved to see some measurements. Would be nice to find out how low it actually goes...
@gossipboynyc2434
@gossipboynyc2434 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you need Hz spectral analysis , balance of it , obviously this may be tweakable away from the default or stock
@bpalpha
@bpalpha 3 жыл бұрын
What a great looking mini sub the likes of which hasn't been seen since sunfire and velodyne's offerings. I agree, it looks like you're overdriving that sub with the extreme excursions of the woofer. How loud was the KC62 playing when we see those drivers wildly fluctuating?
@IamtheLordofDoom
@IamtheLordofDoom 2 жыл бұрын
this is exactly what I was thinking of doing today actually... LS50 Wireless with a pair of KC62s configured as a full-range 2.0 system. Clearly I'm not the first...
@Im-over-9000
@Im-over-9000 3 жыл бұрын
How does it compare against the REL T5i , would you buy 1 KEF or two T5i’s for the same price ?
@TheKrabintheZone
@TheKrabintheZone 3 жыл бұрын
Great review ! Do you think this combination works better / is equivalent than high end tower speakers (such as Dynaudio)?
@ganesang5537
@ganesang5537 3 жыл бұрын
Great informative video! Subscribed!
@dailyfrenchie9047
@dailyfrenchie9047 3 жыл бұрын
Jay - This vs a pair of REL T5i’s for 2-channel? I know you liked the RELs in a previous video and I have a pair but thinking about going with this KEF and then maybe adding a second one later. Thoughts?
@LuxAudio389
@LuxAudio389 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 T5I'S as well and with the LS50 Wireless ii and would like to hear his comparison or see a comparison video. If your budget allows for 2 KC62's then go for it. I know Crutchfield has a 60 day money-back guarantee so you'll have nothing to loose. He does mention that the RELs are still really good, and that the KC62 have their limits. What I do like about the KC62'S is the low resonance of the cabinet because the opposing drivers. My guess is that for the price, with proper setup, and RELs long-term proven performance, we didn't go wrong. Especially with 2 RELs for alot less than 2 KC62.
@ld4974
@ld4974 3 жыл бұрын
You are talking about spending $3,000 (less resale) to "upgrade" from universally praised REL subwoofers. Are the RELs not living up to the hype?
@dailyfrenchie9047
@dailyfrenchie9047 3 жыл бұрын
@@ld4974 I never pay MSRP. I’ll take my time and wait for some open box or used ones to come up like I did with my RELs. I also have a good relationship with my dealer and they’ll have something come up at a good deal. My advice to anyone into hifi is find what you want and then wait. It will eventually show up one way or another at 40% off or more at some point.
@dailyfrenchie9047
@dailyfrenchie9047 3 жыл бұрын
And I love the T5i’s. I do wish they played a bit deeper but for music they’re great. The KEF would have to be a significant improvement. I’ll try one in my room at some point and then decide. I just know Jay has experience with REL so wondering his thoughts.
@elitexed2231
@elitexed2231 3 жыл бұрын
Great video keep it up 🔥
@dmtv9470
@dmtv9470 8 ай бұрын
I have the kc62 sub and kef lsx II and turned the volume up 60 percent and bass at 10 all the way. Played a song with lot of bass. Will anything get damaged? Or did it damage?
@krzysztofgilowski1736
@krzysztofgilowski1736 Жыл бұрын
Jay, what is your room size? I feel it's important to include the room info in sub reviews. Not sure if this would work in my room which is 22m^2 (245ft^2). What do you think?
@egit2427
@egit2427 3 жыл бұрын
Great review! If you have heard the Sonus Faber Sonetto IIs? If so, how do you feel they compare?
@AdamsOlympia
@AdamsOlympia 6 ай бұрын
Just got a ZA3 amp/KEF q150 and SVS Micro 3000 .. Incredible sounding system. I actually wish I had the Metas, NGL . But I don't know much of a difference it'd make over the q150s. Never heard em in person.
@SujitMohanan
@SujitMohanan 3 жыл бұрын
I'm new to hifi and bit confused about the ls50's sounding better after adding the kc62. You mentioned that the ls50's are less stressed as they don't have to produce the low frequencies. But the cross over setting on the sub impact it's own capabilities and cannot impact the ls50's. They will still try to produce all the frequencies unless there's a cross over in the chain. Would really help if you can elaborate, thanks.
@crankthetunes7989
@crankthetunes7989 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty new to this too congrats on getting into it. I think what he was trying to say is that the ls50s may go down to a certain frequency but they may not play those notes well. The bass may be muddy or just not as good as floorstanding speaker. A more than capable subwoofer would help fill in those gaps where a bookshelf speaker may not excel. Hope this helps.
@HareDeLune
@HareDeLune 3 жыл бұрын
There is a saying: "You don't know what you're missing until you've heard what you're missing." In this case, adding the lower frequencies with a quality sub to a pair of quality speakers has a knock-on effect that reinforces and improves the frequency response throughout the entire frequency range. If you have not heard this phenomenon in person, it's difficult to imagine. Thus, the quote above. As soon as you hear it, you understand instantly. Well, perhaps not technically, but you know what you're hearing. : )
@kjltube
@kjltube Жыл бұрын
What he was referring to was passing the speaker signal through the sub where a high pass version of the signal is then available on another pair of the sub terminals, which is less demanding (due to the lack of bass signal), for what ever speakers are then connected. In other words the sub splits the mid/high and low signals, and you connect your main speakers to the mid/high output (via a power amp). Hope that helps!
@FatedMaster1907
@FatedMaster1907 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think would be better for Ls50 wireless 2. The KC62 or Rel T9i?
@josevaldez1554
@josevaldez1554 3 жыл бұрын
I love those speakers and if I had the coin would definitely get a pair.
@jeromelerouge
@jeromelerouge Жыл бұрын
Why did you say use a thin gauge wire but not tell us what gauge you used to connect the high level input? Please help.
@kitieas
@kitieas 3 жыл бұрын
How they speakers did not have to produce the low frequencies and played louder? Did you you high pass filter?
@wrippley103
@wrippley103 Ай бұрын
I just purchased a KC62 and a pair of q150b bookshelf, could you recommend an amp or receiver with the smallest footprint possible because they are for a tiny bedroom 8 by 10 to connect them to a computer for music and movies.
@nickparkin8527
@nickparkin8527 3 жыл бұрын
I asked my mentor in the high end audio design industry and he said: What they do is tune the box to 50hz and then EQ the sound and reducing the input levels on the higher bass frequencies such that the really low end is now louder by comparison and then they throw 1000 W at it and call it a day. Imo Their claims of 11 hz is laughably absurd. I am more of a high-efficiency nut myself. I like getting as much as possible out of as little input as possible, but those type of speakers can get very big very fast That said I’m sure it sounds fantastic and you just cannot beat the size and Output
@NeilBlanchard
@NeilBlanchard 3 жыл бұрын
One of the less obvious benefits of the shared magnet structure, is there are big efficiency gains, and reduced magnetic induction distortion. The concentric voice coils actually cancel some of the magnetic challenges that all subwoofers face. Here is a white paper from KEF on the KC62: @t
@dw3370
@dw3370 3 жыл бұрын
Would 2 of these be better than my 2 svs sb1000’s ? I have kef q550 front speakers and kef q250 Center speaker so would love to have everything match but price difference is quite a lot, which sound the best for home movies ? Cheers
@mikecees2230
@mikecees2230 3 жыл бұрын
Reviewers always seem to use plodding bass heavy tracks to demo subs. To me the true test of subwoofer integration should be with music that has good pace, rhythm & timing (PRaT). If it can keep up and NOT draw attention to itself then I'm interested.
@jeb419
@jeb419 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. But regarding not drawing attention to itself that should be able to be done with gain level, crossover point, and phase. Also room placement.
@petehelme7714
@petehelme7714 3 жыл бұрын
there's a number of well engineered organ recordings out there (Telarc, Reference Recordings, Wilson Audio etc.) that are great for that.
@1psxpat
@1psxpat 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I need some advice. I have a pair of KC62. How should I connected to Martin logan ESL speakers for 2 channel listening? Using high level pass, should I set these sub as stereo ( one sub connected to left speaker and the other sub to right speaker) or should I set these 2 sub as mono? Location of the sub will be exaclty next to each speakers. Thank you.
@RicardoLeonardoAugusto
@RicardoLeonardoAugusto 3 жыл бұрын
I don't get how the LS50s are easier yo drive louder with the sub. Does that mean high pass filtering the signal to the amp?
@jimkyle571
@jimkyle571 3 жыл бұрын
It’s got to, right?
@nikkieb8908
@nikkieb8908 3 жыл бұрын
It's because the mid driver on the ls50s dont have to work as hard trying to also handle low frequencies. You would be able to play them louder and they would have even less distortion. I have ls50w with relt9i
@RicardoLeonardoAugusto
@RicardoLeonardoAugusto 3 жыл бұрын
@@nikkieb8908 how do you filter those out with a stereo amp? ;-) You continue to load the speakers with low freqs..
@ThujanK
@ThujanK 3 жыл бұрын
@@RicardoLeonardoAugusto The KC62 has an adjustable high-pass filter. Essentially your preamp goes into the subwoofer rca line input and the rca line output goes to your power amp/speaker.
@kimchee411
@kimchee411 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThujanK That's not how Jay has it set up though.
@iancanuckistan2244
@iancanuckistan2244 3 жыл бұрын
At $4K for the set it isn't cheap. I've got the LS50's and I'm wondering if it would be worth it. Nice review!
@Roof_Pizza
@Roof_Pizza 3 жыл бұрын
I would imagine you could do better and cheaper than 4k plus HST.
@jimgardner5129
@jimgardner5129 3 жыл бұрын
Love the name! Greetings from eastern Canada.
@defo4157
@defo4157 3 жыл бұрын
How are the LS50's less hard to drive with the sub present? You're still sending a full-range signal into them unless you pass them through the sub and out with a high pass filter
@gabrielbertoli6624
@gabrielbertoli6624 3 жыл бұрын
QUESTION: HI, I like your channel 😊 how did you connect the Kef kc62 sub to your willsenton tube Amp?? Thank you Gabriel
@filmses
@filmses 3 жыл бұрын
Which one you prefer? Kef ls50 meta + KC 62 Or Buchardt s400?
@LYNXHQ
@LYNXHQ 9 ай бұрын
If i ever decide to get ls50meta im getting that sub!
@sangkim5326
@sangkim5326 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Jay, I have the LRS and nothing else. I am trying to duplicate your setup. In this video, other than the KC62, what were the other components. I think i can see Denafrips Hestia and Hyperion in this video, were these two in you listening to sound so good? What were your source components and any other components involved? Thanks in advance.
@kohnfutner9637
@kohnfutner9637 3 жыл бұрын
I think a good trick would be to make stands for the ls50 to take up even less space if you want. I just bought 2 jbl 550p to set my jbl 580 on. Takes up only the space of the subs.
@WhiteBubblySoup
@WhiteBubblySoup 3 жыл бұрын
In regards to the LS50 being easier to drive, were you running the LS50 full range or high pass?
@HackerMan46
@HackerMan46 3 жыл бұрын
How does it compare to the svs sub that you reviewed recently? I don't think you mentioned it in the video
@QualityofLifeTECH
@QualityofLifeTECH 3 жыл бұрын
Bought a REL HT 1003 cause of your reviews. How does this compare? Looking for something small to put in another room.
@shaymcquaid
@shaymcquaid 3 жыл бұрын
I demand a type of socialism where I am paid in speakers!! =P Great video!
@bjs7442
@bjs7442 3 жыл бұрын
I have the LS50 Metas. I couldn't get the KC62s so settled for discounted Kf92a which are similar but bigger. I love the sound but my only disappointment is he doesnt explain his use of the speaker inputs and why he doesn't use the simpler other inputs . I am using LFE with the bluesound app which allows me to adjust everything. Am I missing out on something and not optimised?
@dh6897
@dh6897 Жыл бұрын
Is the KEF LS50 Meta +KC62 better then a setup with KEF R3 or KEF R3 with KC62?
@kaliffens
@kaliffens 3 жыл бұрын
When you connect the subwoofer like shown, you have no high pass filter on the main speakers, and therefore they cannot play louder without distortion, although the extended low frequency may give the impression. Your amplifier does not have an easier load either. If you want to use the high pass filter on the line output, you need a second stereo amplifier to drive the main speakers, or you need active speakers with the sub. Thats not to say that the shown solution does not work, but you need to be careful with the integration between sub and main speaker, because there is no filter on the main speaker, you are just adding extra low level, that needs to fit with the slope and natural roll off frequency of your main speakers. The linearity will depend on the position of the sub as well, and phase adjustment is missing on this quite expensive sub. The dispersion from any subwoofer is omnidirectinal, so this sub is not better because of the two drivers in that regard. Even though they are omnidirectional, two subs are often a better choice, if you want good integration. Especially if you cannot place the sub in the center, and you are sitting a bit close to the speakers. The Unicore feature may look fancy, but nothing comes for free, and the magnetsystems has two gaps, so if it is not twice the size magnet, you loose power (Bxl). The way you design a magnet system will influence the efficiency, so clever design can make a big difference. If the size of the magnet was a problem, they could have used neodymium instead, but that is more expensive.
@edwardbalboa5528
@edwardbalboa5528 3 жыл бұрын
The sub IS the high pass filter ....it removes the low frequencies from the signal going to the ls50 ....
@andreasheiden7122
@andreasheiden7122 3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardbalboa5528 now you tell me how that works... you would have to connect the ls50 to the Sub then, if it has an integrated filtered speaker output, which is definitely not the case... It would also not be a good solution by audiophile standards
@jimfarrell4635
@jimfarrell4635 3 жыл бұрын
I'm with Andreas here. The signal to the speakers and their load on the amp is unchanged using a high level connection. The speakers are still trying to reproduce the entire frequency range. It's just you get extra bass from the sub.
@kaliffens
@kaliffens 3 жыл бұрын
I just found the manual, and there actually is the most common 0 /180 degree switch for the phase on this sub, so that is ok.
@tameem9848
@tameem9848 3 жыл бұрын
or just use a mini dsp
@wavesnowaves
@wavesnowaves 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a Denadrips preamp and amp combo I see behind you ? Review coming up soon ? :)
@ubacow7109
@ubacow7109 3 жыл бұрын
Im curious if this tech will be used in a larger variant to replace the KF92. Do they chuf for a closed? I thought chuffing was only for open or ported designs. I would imagine that there is breakup due to diaphragm or suspension not being rigid enough for so much pressure in a tiny body.
@seanmangan2769
@seanmangan2769 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review....might be time to replace my B+W subs!
@Raymondey
@Raymondey 3 жыл бұрын
I understand it's faster than REL HT1003 (due to the smaller woofer), but what about bass quality? Does KEF surpass REL HT or are they on the same par?
@anderspettersson9885
@anderspettersson9885 3 жыл бұрын
Kef, why was the driver painted silver? would have wanted it in the same copper color as my wireless 2.
@themrgumbatron
@themrgumbatron Жыл бұрын
Nice review
@nolanscott9870
@nolanscott9870 3 жыл бұрын
Sitting here trying to decide whether to keep my Buchardt A500 order or get Kef Wireless II's w/KC62 Sub. I'm sure I'll be happy regardless.
@nikkieb8908
@nikkieb8908 3 жыл бұрын
Two rel t9is or two of the kc62? Which is better? Rel doesn't go as low on paper but I need to know which of these would be the preferred option. Paired with ls50w first iteration.
@DennisInVenice
@DennisInVenice 3 жыл бұрын
How does the sub filter the crossover? When you used speaker wires as input, does it convert to digital, then filter with DSP, and convert back again? Or is it an analog filter?
@WWeiss-nv5vz
@WWeiss-nv5vz 2 жыл бұрын
How does the bass of this compare with the Devialet Phantom Gold?
@paullao7493
@paullao7493 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, what do you think about the idea of adding kef kc62 to the center speaker of ht setup in order to transform the center speaker into a full range? Just like what rels are doing with the rel 3d, since kc62 is very compact this would be a great alternative if possible. Thanks
@SettlersCoveLtd
@SettlersCoveLtd 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos. As a Bahamian we have to travel to Florida or NYC to demo gear. Can the LS50 Metas push sound 15/20 feet away in a home theater? I know they’re near-field monitors.
@trun1979
@trun1979 3 жыл бұрын
What's the best crossover + volume setting when paired with Metas? I'm driving them with a Hegel H190
@peterdesmidt8742
@peterdesmidt8742 3 жыл бұрын
Did you high pass the main speakers?
@SamLGND
@SamLGND 2 жыл бұрын
Are you able to control EQ modes through the app? Also can the kef do high passs filtering from the app with an other brand of speakers or not? Its not clear
@torlantriplett2662
@torlantriplett2662 3 жыл бұрын
How do you think they would be for theater room listening, do the have enough low end to rock a 13x20 room, using 2 of the KC62 sub woofers?
@timculler1454
@timculler1454 2 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on the sub shitting off at low volumes? It’s a criticism one sees . May be a workaround, but should work without imo
@sequentialgear
@sequentialgear 3 жыл бұрын
Does the subwoofer limit the bass frequencies going to the main speakers? How do you connect the subwoofer to the audio system? I remember reading about the LS50's driver specs and the Fs is quite high at 79hz, that tells us that it struggles reproducing bass. Take away the mechanical stress and it should really take the Kefs to another level.
@benhagens2480
@benhagens2480 3 жыл бұрын
You can do that if you are using separates and place the KC62 in the signal path between them - KC62's line output has a selectable high pass filter
@HAL9007
@HAL9007 3 жыл бұрын
So, what gauge wire did you end up using for your speaker-level connections ? Thanks. 16?
@FlyGuy457
@FlyGuy457 3 жыл бұрын
Considering the price of the sub and the LS50, are they worth that combined investment? And what is the background checkerboard sound treatment you have please. Thank you.
@HareDeLune
@HareDeLune 3 жыл бұрын
Please check the video description for acoustic panel link.
@MAELOB
@MAELOB 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, it would have been nice if you test it with an SPL meter to see how low it go.
@timcrisologo5133
@timcrisologo5133 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, thanks for the video, im seriously considering to get 2 kc62’s to match a pair of Meta’s as stereo pair, what is the best way to connect them? Speaker connection amp to Meta’s, then preouts from amp to kc62’s? Thanks
@StefanUrkel
@StefanUrkel 2 жыл бұрын
@Glenn Young what gear would i need to implement as you described? i have ls50 meta and want to get kc62 to offload lower frequencies and maximize ls50 meta performance. right now i have a dac and a pair of purifi amp monoblocks hooked up using XLR cables. i'm not set on this configuration, so just wondering what i'd need to get to implement as you mentioned. do i get a separate upstream electronic crossover device?
@bobb.9917
@bobb.9917 3 жыл бұрын
Hi...do you hav a video where you talk more about this preferred wiring method? I am not sure that I understand why you prefer this over the normal sub/signal output from an amp. Thanks.
@planetag310
@planetag310 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Rel T5 subwoofer. How would that work with the LS50 Metas?
@droneforfun5384
@droneforfun5384 3 жыл бұрын
How does it compare to a REL s/510 or REL T9i, for a music listener?
@xMoac
@xMoac 3 жыл бұрын
I have the lsx and have the opportunity to upgrade to kef ls50wireless2 by trading in my Kef Lsx and paying around 1000 euro. Is it worth it? Will the kef ls50wireless2 work for near field , desktop, listening? As of speakers for the coming year or two? Would you advice me going for this or should I go for ls50meta and some amp/dac?
@mrebear9758
@mrebear9758 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's worth it
@hengyan3742
@hengyan3742 2 жыл бұрын
LS50 META+KC62 vs. Buchardt S400 mk 2, which one sounds better?
@mra.cortez3553
@mra.cortez3553 3 жыл бұрын
How did you high pass the LS50s? With speaker level inputs only you are still sending full range to the LS50 and its amp is still working just as hard as before, no?
@paulbaker4941
@paulbaker4941 3 жыл бұрын
Direct from amplifier to high level on sub. Much higher ohm on sub normally i believe . Can only achieve what hes saying if could llimit frequency like with a crown or something although if wired on high level to same output you'd limit the frequency to sub also. Home theatre amps do this i think per output but shitty in stereo.
@RJ_Chicago
@RJ_Chicago 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, Can you please do a review of the Willsenton R-800i 300B 845 Tube Single-Ended Class A Integrated & Power Amplifier Balanced XLR Input and compare it to amps similar in type and or price? Thanks!
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