Full Secondary Hannover Should Not Be This Good

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[@TM-pb8ky]

German BBs, pushing in, Secondaries Blazing on each side.... a perfect day

[@Fackeldackel]

Oh yes, please do so...

[@2fat4airborne44]

awesome....the reason why i started playing wows back in the day. well obviously dont play aqs much anymore ^^.

[@angriboi]

Close range with BBs is not meta, so it's useless. You'll just get torped out of the game by DDs and Submarines.

[@mightymo2354]

Hey PQ I was the Austin that game, thanks for carrying me lol. I fully admit to doing very little early game in that one but it was also my first game in the ship so I don’t blame myself too much, gg though it was a fun one (felt great killing those 2 btw)

[@risingsun9595]

My boy!!!!! Big ups

[@kalebthehistorian5928]

Having just started getting into the "No fun allowed" zone on my Pyotr Veliky, I salute you!

[@RhomasTotevenaar]

Love the 'well done!' After you kill the carrier and sub. Really shows your love for those classes

[@doublesoul862]

Seeing that full duration combat instructions full secondary Hannover firing from both sides is so satisfying

[@brianhum8765]

"It can be pretty good as long as the carriers don't come after you. Or subs. Or broken superships." A truer statement has never been said.

[@EvoraGT430]

Yep, that's WOWS in a nutshell for the most of us.

[@SoldierOfFate]

Remember the days when the only things that could stop a secondary-specced BB from going medieval was a torpedo-focused destroyer that could stay unspotted and a horde of HE-spamming cruisers that desperately tried to burn you down before you got too close?

[@corbinpearce7686]

@@SoldierOfFate I started back into WoWS in 2016, then took a break from 2018 till a few months ago while I was in school - I played a few battles trying to push in with the Bismark and was really confused and angry at how quickly I was getting deleted. Not the game I remembered, still enjoy it though.

[@recarunu868]

92 AA defense in Hannover, if CV comes for you, he'll experience rage in hitting you with planes, subs can be troubling but with the help of nearby teammates that's quite manageable 50% of the time. & when Subs get to the surface they will also eat your secondary 😂

[@dzello]

What do you mean Potato Quality? Secondary builds are super strong! I ran a secondary build on my Hannover, dealt tons of damage with them and won! I lost 14 games after, but that's besides the point.

[@ACCGOO9012]

It’s not problem of built, it’s cv and sub

[@HuynhTanPhuc-ly7it]

@@ACCGOO9012 also this isn't 2016 anymore

[@solace6633]

Lost 14 games after proves what PQ is saying

[@dzello]

@@solace6633 You are exactly what I expect the average World of Warships player to be.

[@athopeke147]

@@dzellospeaking from the bottom of my heart mate

[@BugattiONE666]

When Satsuma and Hannover were added to pts, i did what i normally do, use the Free XP they give you and, buy Kremlin and go sealclubbing...at tier 10. Very first game, too over half the health of the enemy Satsuma from around 15-20Km as i duelled him, he stood no chance.... Then pushed and brawled a full HP Hannover, he died, he stood no chance, Satsuma and Hannover reflect their T10s accurately, theyre fairly good and AWFUL respectively xD

[@HoshikawaHikari]

PQ, what’s your opinion if WG were to give the original German BB line the secondary combat instructions?

[@Sky_Guy]

I was a CV main before the rework, and for about a year after the rework, before I quit the game. Owned almost every CV tree. Before the rework I was at 36 karma, by the end I was at 5. Unfortunately I was a good CV player, which meant I ruined everyone else's game experience since that's what WG decided to turn the CV class into, so everyone reported me after each game just for playing a CV. Honestly can't really blame them. Consequently it didn't take long for me to quit CVs then soon after quit the game. Sunk-cost fallacy can only take you so far in this death-spiraling pay-to-win toxic game.

[@guyincognito1560]

Wish there were more people like yourself. It's unfortunate that all too many take advantage of the obvious "pimp play" WG pulled with CVs and subs. "Hey kids, you wanna pony up for an unfair advantage? You wanna play the game and sink the others without getting sunk? Well......we have just the thing for you, for the low low price of.........., we've introduced protected class ships where you can do what the others can't and just wait until we add radar guided harpoon missiles, mines and why not......land based tomahawk missiles impenetrable fortresses....think it can't happen?........you think guided torps were fun well you're in for a treat!" Words can't describe how much less fun the game is when either is present. I see a sub, I just head for the other side. If one decides you're it's target, you'll spend 10 minutes dealing with it since they outrun your ASW and for some strange reason, can appear up your ass even with HYDRO enabled. Go figure. CV players just target the ship with the best AA and get rid of them early.....because they can. FFS, at least give the player base the option to not have them in their matches. That would make too much sense though and we can't have reasonable thinking among WG staff.

[@AllAhabNoMoby]

Cool video, would have liked to see the damage ratio between main- and secondary guns. And I cannot help be pissed off at that CV strike.

[@Xrayfk05]

See the damage report at 9:06 ?

[@AllAhabNoMoby]

@@Xrayfk05 Missed it, thanks!

[@ryangd05]

@@Xrayfk05 48k from bombs.... thats fucked in just 2 strikes lol

[@heyloranium9337]

Happy to see that game on here :D

[@custommotor]

Just a thought that came about watching this video. BBs usually have multiple calibers of secondary guns. Shouldn't each type of gun have a different range? A 6in gun should have a range of up to 23km if you were to use the 6"/53-caliber gun. shorter for a 5" gun and a 4" gun. There should be multiple engagements ranges on the secondaries. Makes it more dangerous the closer you get. At 15-20km you would only have large secondaries engaging which is usually very few and then at 12-14km you have 5 in guns engaging and the closer you get the more smaller guns engage, down to 4" 3" and 2". Would make it much more dynamic and interesting then all guns at X range. Layered defense just like the AA. Which since AA has multiple engagement ranges it means the secondaries can have that also.

[@TallulahSoie]

It ain't no secondary Mogami, but it'll do.

[@LEONELEKTRONIK77]

Last time I killed a Satsuma with my Hannover ❤ Many Satsuma players think that they are unbeatable with their 510mm guns, but they often forget, that Hannover players have 483mm guns, extreme secondary and thick armor.

[@viktorpro2018]

yesterday evening?

[@williampotts4404]

just had a game like this 2 love han

[@takodac2469]

Why do people say "Gay-Toe" like it's Gato like cat idk... the catshark it was named after. Gato is Spanish for cat! Like ugh it hurts when people say "Gay-Toe"

[@gothamgoon4237]

You can have a good game if no cv's come after you, or subs, or HE spamming cc's, or torp spamming dd's. Yep, a good game can be had.

[@BazzaNUFC]

Nice, nearly 50K damage from two CV drops. Had to use so many skills to do that to you, position, map awareness, and angling to name a few.

[@amaratc]

Five minutes earlier he was chuckling as he did 22k damage to that "reasonably well angled" Buffalo with 4 inaccurate guns. While CVs are quite strong, it's not a norm to have 50k in two drops for most CVs if any at all. It's FDR, steel CV with highest alpha damage in game among CVs fighting one of it's prime targets there, slow and low manouverable ships with large decks.

[@jimmtheballs]

@@amaratc Not 50k but a big chunk is very common. In ranked recently I had a lazy 25k taken off me in Duncan before any enemy ships were even spotted. I basically started the game with a hitpoint handicap. Ask anyone here and they will tell you a similar story. At least the Buffalo can hide behind an island or have lucky rng to avoid overmatch.

[@amaratc]

@@jimmtheballs it's unfortunate, I agree, but big chunks are common in beginning before damage saturation kicks in. What tier 8 CV did that much damage, and what did you do to mitigate damage? Because if you did nothing then I don't understand why you complain, it's equivalent of sailing broadside entire time. But if you did do something, that means that potential damage is even higher than 25k. So now I am intrigued what CV can do 25k+ damage in one run at tier 8 in the beginning of the match when ships are still clumped up for AA as there is no way it will do drops with all squads.

[@armanhadi777]

A broken clock is right twice daily.

[@n2t460]

"protected classes sub and cvs" IRL in history though CVs became the main ways battles win, so i like that added realism

[@PrinzEugen39]

Lucky you PQ, that Austin is a good unicum player. If only you had a 39% animal austin tho lmao

[@Chris-iv8sb]

I just noticed that the Hannover armor layout wise has downgraded fore end and aft end from 50mm to 35mm compared to Preussen or even GK. *WHY* As if that fucking church of a superstructure wasn't bad enough already.

[@BSenta]

Hanover seems to eat so much dmg

[@R4ZORLIGHT]

Secondary builds might no be viable but they are by far the most fun!

[@Strykenine]

T9 is cursed,

[@kristelvidhi5038]

Second best Battleship in the game, after Satsuma.

[@Richie_RHD]

320p gang

[@Just_som_Ottur]

It’s not, _thIs iS AlL jUst A DrEaM_

[@aproudbaguette3605]

"This type of play should not be in this game in 2023, secondaries and brawl are not the optimal ways to have fun ! Here are CVs smoke and sea mines to make the game funnier and playable" - some Wargaming employee

[@TonyC2328]

CV players have the luxury of choosing who they want dead

[@matsab7930]

So… managing your hp perfectly all game leaves you with ~40k hp. Two unforgettable drops from a single set of planes and you’re dead. They honestly have just killed their own game for no good reason…

[@andrewsantos2756]

the video began fun, then i remmenbered why i stopped playing the game.

[@marcom2248]

I hate carriers.

[@comradevlad7459]

Honestly I don’t even try to maneuver to CV drops in bbs anymore. There’s no point, you’re so slow and they have all the time and maneuverability in the world to get the right position, it’s kinda pointless.

[@shao1423]

CV and SS are basically the cancer for the game. I mean, these classes are killing player's patience and the game itself, but WG just have no way to remove them.

[@henryburrows1772]

Yea they do, they could just give us the option to play a mode with gun platform ships only. But then the sub and cv players would be angreee and not spend as much money. Wargamings own fault.

[@hansfrans761]

One single thing I have to say dont understand about you. You are constantly complaining (for legit reasons) about various broken aspects of this game and the sorey state that it is in right now. One major thing you keep mentioning is the apparent stupidity of BB presence in a game. E.g. you have shown over and over again that CN can just broadside and laugh at you while the whole point of a BB should be for them to be fearful of that exact situation. But on the other hand you also upload games regularly in which you praise the quality of perks of several BBs. How does that fit together without contradicting itself? Honest question out of curiosity

[@hansfrans761]

But just dumb how you were ready and set for an absolute gold game and this braindead cv meta just left mouse buttons you back into port. Its so dumb

[@admiralfloofz658]

"protected classes" in what universe are submarines "protected". I can see why youd say CVs are but submarines are super fragile and pretty hard to play well. Im really sick of hearing this bitching from people who especially dont play the classes they constantly complain about.

[@ntray3729]

I mean its a 250k game. What more do you want? Like dont get me wrong, I like your content in general but the constant whining about CVs/Subs is getting hella annoying. They re in the game, deal with them. A player of your skilllevel should be able to do that.

[@lifdrazor]

well, if not even the idio.t of flamu can.. no one can

[@ntray3729]

@@lifdrazor Hes constantly getting insane games.

[@amaratc]

1:47

[@amaratc]

@@lifdrazor Flamu is just burned out from the game and has loyal fanbase that will repeat whatever he says, doesn't matter if it has sense or not. And I've yet to see him saying that some captain skills should be invested into AA...

[@lifdrazor]

@@amaratc I find it super cringe that they bully onto everyone who's not remotely pro at the game or things like that.. on top of yeah, massively hating on sub or cv lel

[@Caninoization]

You get more RNG buff for sure, I watch so many this ship's video and only 4 guns never hit a Citadel, In my experience 4 guns of Preussen never get a Citadel, so why you get a Citadel at that angle, even Yamato or Stalingrad very very hard to get a Citadel at that angle