Full Self Driving 12.5.6.3! Speed Profiles Are Magic, The Highway Reimagined?

[@NicksApps]

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[@tuckerwelker6924]

Love how it handles merging cars into its highway lane. Also handled that 55mph zone well 👍

[@NicksApps]

Yes, this was a huge upgrade for highway! A few things to iron out for city streets and FSD will be looking really good, can’t wait for V13!!!

[@Gskenejhh]

I definitely agree with you in this video. It's more smooth in the turning, stopping, starting and seems to have an increased awareness of other cars.

[@NicksApps]

Definitely! This was a big update and I can’t even imagine what’s to come with V13!

[@jerrybowen2869]

Got 12.5.6.3 two days ago. Definite improvement on highway and on city streets IMO. Speeds in the subdivision are finally right. Both the display and the ride are steadier IMO. Haven't tested the new version in school zones yet. It has consistently ignored school zones in Ok.

[@NicksApps]

Yes definitely my biggest pain point is school zones in this build, but I’m really excited to see what V13 brings at the end of the month!!

[@jerrybowen2869]

​​@@NicksAppsI'm surprised Tesla hasn't fixed the response in school zones by now. The potential for negative publicity from the NHTSA or the shill media is huge.

[@adetheteslaguy]

Love to see it handled the exit ramp well...that was part of my fear using FSD on the highway.

[@NicksApps]

@@adetheteslaguy ya it was rough before, but now with V12 on highway it’s like magic!! Truly a huge step forward and can’t wait to see what V13 brings at the end of the month!!

[@MikiCab1]

This is a game changer for those of us who drink and drive. 😮😅😂

[@rybk_]

12.5.6.3 is great on both city streets and highway. Hurry is awesome.

[@privateerburrows]

Yeah, besides school zones, which the team should tackle by adding info to maps as I've argued for many times, there's also emergency vehicle response (finding a way to clear the way for them), and non-emergency special situations such as a marriage or mortuary motorcades (letting them pass, not trying to mix with them). There's also detecting and avoiding muggers, car hijackers, violent crowds, etc., though you might argue for letting the driver disengage in such situations; but such a solution would not work for robotaxis that cannot be disengaged. EDIT: Decorating maps with such things as school zones, police stations, hospital locations, etc., would be useful to the ai for speed control as well as knowing where to go in case of the driver having been shot or having had a stroke. Decorating maps with max speed on all streets would help the ai know the max speed before seeing a sign. Decorating maps with the numbers of lanes at intersections and turn restrictions on those lanes would help the ai better know what to do when snow is covering the road and road-markings are not visible. I am not arguing for "detailed maps" but rather just for decorations on maps via a decorations overlay. This overlay could be created automatically from driving data, and frequently updated over the air. As such, it could also contain warnings about construction zones, dangerous pot-holes, and other dynamic things.

[@hackbrettschorsch6855]

All I want is the FSD Highway package in Europe. I'll drive myself in the city but having the luxury to just relax on long highway trips would be amazing.

[@NicksApps]

Hopefully it comes to EU in the first half of 2025! It truly does change road-tripping forever!

[@davidowlarry]

FSD is borderline science fiction but there is still a lot that it needs before it gets to be "unsupervised". To name just a few... It needs to actually read road signs. Things like no turn on red, it still gets wrong. Needs to combine map data with vision and make the correct legal decisions, not the ones based on video data. Big one for me is emergency vehicles. There are so many required interactions and laws around how to interact with emergency vehicles that are ignored. School buses is another one. The fact that we're getting down to these almost fringe scenarios is amazing, but I still see it being 3 to 4 years away along with at least one more hardware refresh (more powerful MCU, more camera angles, higher resolution, longer range cameras and maybe LIDAR (better low-viz resolution). Nice vid!

[@Mrrickyboy41]

Lidar is too expensive. Elon will never use it.

[@davidowlarry]

@@Mrrickyboy41 Yeah, that was the "maybe" portion of my comment. In fairness, all technology was too expensive at one point. The LIDAR package today is far too cumbersome. It needs a lot of advancement and adoption for it to become more portable and much cheaper. it's great tech, so I don't see anything stopping its development.

[@davidfrankel9267]

The thing is now he has the Largest Supercomputer in the world - thanks to NVDA. Nick's needing to speed up when the car was slowing down for no reason was processed and noted by the Big Data and I would not be surprised if that Supercomputer is automatically figuring out where FSD went wrong ( self-correcting for the next time). I'm saying, it's going to get much better much faster from hereon in.

[@NicksApps]

@@davidowlarry Agreed and hopefully we will get there soon, I think V13 should resolve a lot of these issues hopefully. We should be seeing that by the end of the month. But you’re right there are still a lot of laws the car needs to learn. But it’s getting real good at the basics! I think what will make it increasingly difficult is that laws vary from state to state. Hopefully 🤞 they will be able to resolve these issues with in a year and release their Robotaxi next year!

[@NicksApps]

@@Mrrickyboy41 agreed hopefully we will never need it

[@lancejones4636]

You get to set the Max Speed, Nick. Nice work on the video.

[@NicksApps]

@@lancejones4636 Max Speed on roads under 55 mph are still a bit messy, but when speed profiles are engaged it’s amazing!! Thank you!

[@ReverseFlash23]

Hoping to see FSD figure out some different types of signs in my area which includes: 1. Stop (except right turn) 2. “End” 45mph signs

[@NicksApps]

@@ReverseFlash23 oh ya the end speed signs are rough, I’ll have to try them out on this build. And stop (except right)? Never heard of it. You don’t need to stop if you’re going right, is it like a partial yield?

[@voldar70]

The max speed is set to 85 because you didn't set the Max speed offset (left it by default 40%) and because FSD is not available above 85 mph. Change the max speed offset setting in Autopilot and you'll be OK (in 5% increments). This way you have control over the max speed on the roads (city and highway).

[@NicksApps]

So don’t keep it at the default recommendation? I just figured that would be best, but ya you’re right I should probably try adjusting that! Thank you!

[@voldar70]

@ Definitely ! I use 15% offset setting on mine, which gives me the right speed at every road speed limit. On a 65 mph it goes up to 75 mph and if I want more, I just use the right scrolling button to upgrade the speed. And it will keep that set speed for every road that has the 65 mph speed during the driving. The 50 mph will have 58 mph max speed. And so on.

[@Mr.CEO888]

@@voldar70My right scroll button doesn’t control the speed anymore and I can’t figure out why not? Any suggestions?

[@voldar70]

@ it does control the speed but only when you see the Max speed appearing in blue in line with the FSD icon (top left corner). But for that to occur you need to set the Max speed offset to either 10% or 15%. If you let it at 40% the Max speed will never show up.

[@voldar70]

​@@Mr.CEO888 for those who were complaining about the FSD speeding too much above the speed limit, with this update there is no longer the case. You (the driver) are back in control : you have the option to set the speed limit offset in 5% increments and that's it. No more 50 mph on 35 mph zones, unless you chose to go 40% above the max speed.

[@craighermle7727]

12..5.6.3, is the 1st version of FSD that I've tested and I actually felt relaxed. while using it This version actually felt completely natural on the highway changing lanes appropriately, and not endangering other drivers when doing lane changes, speed modulation was pretty darn good. Acceleration from stops seemed greatly improved. I need far more driving than I've had with it, but this is the 1st version that I'd actually consider subscribing to. FSD and Nav seem to be problematic though. I've never been impressed with FSD/NAV routing, but this version seems to have regressed. NAV routing sometimes makes no sense at all. It will be interesting to see how FSD works when it rains or snows. I also want to see if Tesla has put any effort into pothole avoidance. Living in New England, we're just beginning "pothole" season, and some of our potholes are suspension-breaking

[@blessguy5330]

How well does it handle motorcycles on the line? Old stack freaks out all the time

[@NicksApps]

I do t really see them to often out here but will update if seen!

[@phillipmoore6249]

In my state the cars on the right are suppose to merge behind or infant of you. I never move over or slow down.

[@NicksApps]

@@phillipmoore6249 hmmm interesting, I think the law is the same here. But I tend to move over for oncoming cars if possible.

[@mrbartonconstruction]

Looks like you are enjoying fsd. I really like the music you chose in the background. Where did you find it? Thanks for sharing your experience with us.

[@NicksApps]

Yes I definitely am enjoying, thank you! I use audiio for my music they have a lot of good choices on a budget! ref.audiio.com/c3qafdhd

[@PeterTeehan]

Love the video - What stand are you using to record and what are you using to record?

[@NicksApps]

Thank you! I use an iPhone 15 with a suction cup mount on the roof and a MagSafe mount!

[@NicksApps]

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[@TotalTesla]

V11 highway stack has merged over ahead entrance. Also the car has moved over to the right lane when cars would want to pass. Looking to test for my channel today.

[@NicksApps]

@@TotalTesla awesome you still running v11 for highway?

[@TotalTesla]

@NicksApps no, if you don't have v12.5.6.3 the highway stack has been V11.

[@franklong6269]

1. You can increase the minimum speed by hitting the gas pedal in FSD. However, I have not found a way to decrease the speed once you increase it. 2. If the school zone has a speed sign, the car will slow down. However, there are a lot of different school zone signs and I don't think the car recognizes all of them. My Model 3 will slow down on Saturdays at school zones when it sees the speed sign for the school zone.

[@alphadelta87]

7:54 - you can still set the max allowed speed in city streets. So you could toggle it down to 30 or whatever with the right scroll wheel (and you'll see it in the upper left) and it'll honor the max you set.. annoying, like you said, but you wouldn't have to disengage. Just an intervention. I'm in a 2018 M3P and I can't wait for speed profiles for 50mph+. There's a road we commute for about 20 minutes that's 55mph and the car choosing to go 43 makes FSD completely unusable on that stretch 🙁

[@clgmore6714]

Got mine Saturday

[@KGBos]

Ah so the FSD gods have visited you.

[@NicksApps]

Lets goooo!

[@NicksApps]

I heard they love when you connect your car to WiFi consistently….?

[@davidfrankel9267]

I think most people would be happy with absolute confidence on the highway, especially in traffic. Not sure I would want the FSD on the city/town streets just yet - which Robotaxi needs. You really showed us where the FSD is at.. Learner's Permit Level - which is ok for now. It's great progress.

[@dloveslawn]

trust me - its not a just novelty party trick on city/town/backroad streets (i was worried about this before buying it), its an absolute game changer. No more shuffling around for coffee on the way to work while trying to drive at the same time. Last week my FSD 12.5.4.2 saved a cats life, it saw it long before I would have and it stopped on a dime allowing the cat to cross. I rarely have to disengage it on commonly traveled roads of mine, and it gets better with every update! well worth the price IMO.

[@NicksApps]

Yes not quite there, but I think with V13(Shipping by the end of the month 🤞) will be pretty close. Im excited to see where FSD will go!

[@NicksApps]

Yes exactly, truly a game changer and now with V12 on highway I usually don't need to intervene. Once we get school zones fixed I will be a very happy man!

[@originalambival]

Looking forward to it! 2024 MY AI4 just updated to 12.4.6.2. on Advanced Updates. I guess I'm in the ring that gets it last.

[@NicksApps]

Oh awesome!! I got 12.5.6.3 a day after 12.4.6.2, hoping you see the same!!! It really upgrades the highway experience!!

[@originalambival]

​@@NicksAppsTime for me to do the Software Settings voodoo ceremony! 😂

[@NicksApps]

@ yes! I’ll do one for you too!😂

[@sandiegosurf1]

Do you have to touch the steering wheel every minute or two, or never touch it while in FSD mode?

[@NicksApps]

@@sandiegosurf1 it’s hands free! Don’t need to touch it at all! Makes for an awesome experience!

[@sandiegosurf1]

Thanks. That’s amazing, but I imagine I’d be quite nervous using it until I started to trust it over time. Pretty sure we are buying a Model Y next year.

[@NicksApps]

@ yes definitely gets some getting used to, but once you are you can’t go back to a car without it, truly changes the driving experience. Buying a Tesla is exciting!

[@MOOTANT1]

Very impressive. Im in the Uk and here FSD is intentionally broken due to EU regulations. I would estimate it has maybe 40% capability you have in the US.

[@NicksApps]

Oh wow that really stinks, I believe they want to bring full FSD in Q1-Q2 of 2025 to EU right? Really hoping it comes soon for you guys! It’s truly impressive! 99% of my driving I have my hands on my lap, really changes the driving experience.

[@MOOTANT1]

@@NicksApps Ill keep my fingers crossed. 😉

[@nemozo]

Are you able to change the Profile using the scroll wheel on the right? It worked for me w the 12.5.4.1 version but not this one.

[@NicksApps]

Hmm not sure, I’ll have to check tomorrow. I’ll get back to you!

[@erict6464]

Have the speed and stoplight issues at 12:50 and 14:50 happened before? I'm on 12.5.6.1 and FSD always ignores this one light, even when red. It seems to be a new behavior in 12.5.6.X builds, at least in my limited experience.

[@NicksApps]

They have happened before but this build does seem to have more issues with traffic lights than ever before. Hopefully this gets fixed before V13

[@blessguy5330]

These are easy drives lol 101 in LA Is the challenge and it actually does pretty good

[@NicksApps]

Agreed, really did this to test the new highway stack I’ll go into the city soon and I think that will be very interesting 🤔 very sketch roads over there

[@timothyregan8348]

What are you using for recording? Nice angle

[@NicksApps]

Using the iPhone 15 with a suction mount. Thank you!

[@NicksApps]

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[@Wankidy]

It's no issue if it's not a right only lane. I don't know why people keep complaining about things that do not matter. This car will never drive exactly the way you drive. Then, it will be different from the way the other person drives. It just needs to do what's right

[@NicksApps]

Definitely agree, I just don't like blocking people from making that turn, but in the end If it's doing what's legal I'm good with it!

[@roshanmirajkar2315]

using go pro?

[@NicksApps]

@@roshanmirajkar2315 used my IPhone, what do you think good or bad?🤔 should I invest in a better camera?

[@ms3er396]

So whats the best way to simply set what you want the car to drive at? I want to set it at 78 in 70 zones and say 42 in 35 zones. Am i missing just being able to scroll the car to a specific speed?

[@NicksApps]

@@ms3er396 you can still use the scroll wheel to adjust max speed offset, similar to before. It’s mostly just a name change

[@ms3er396]

@@NicksApps Okay....I tried it yesterday and it did okay with speed in traffic. Couple occasions in standard mode it drove below my max setting but overall it was good. Lane changes were perfect. No more camping in left lane and when it signals it does so quickly. In fact the camera lights up red when it does but of course it waits to move over. Much like me, I signal I'm coming and then go, I don't ask for permission. Love that. Will try again today with more traffic.

[@NicksApps]

@ awesome, hopefully V13 improves even further!

[@bklein13131]

Hey man, curious how you got access to this update? I am on 12.5.4.2 still!

[@NicksApps]

@@bklein13131 Do you connect to WiFi frequently?

[@theAiWorld-q9r]

Is your car HW4? I guess Tesla selects a small group of car for newer version, then release widely.

[@bklein13131]

Connect to it every day! I have a 2024 Model 3, took delivery about 2 weeks ago.

[@theAiWorld-q9r]

@@bklein13131 v13 going to release before Thanksgiving hopefully. You may skip 12.5.6

[@chriso5842]

I just got notified for download and installation today. M3 HW4.

[@RealJustinTyme]

I'm amazed that peeps are ok with not driving the speed you prefer. We need a real max speed setting that is actually used. Not a fan at all. Drive the plains on the interstate as the slowest car out there unless you constantly intervene.

[@NicksApps]

I am very happy with the speed the new speed profiles choose, but my dad is the same way and get very frustrated when the car chooses anything other then the speed he choose. Hopefully in time FSD will learn to maintain preferred speed!

[@STXPH4NE]

"The speed limit is 65, the car is going 73, I'm usually going 75, I'm happy". If you're happy to drive 10 mph over the speed limit... Silly question coming from the country "Europe", the police, the radars and the fines, it is non-existent in the USA?

[@NicksApps]

@@STXPH4NE hey good question here in NY it’s normal to go 10 above on highways, some go even faster although technically you can get a ticket going 1 mile over the speed limit

[@TheGreatestJuJu]

Reverse, sign reading and hand gestures need to be added.

[@NicksApps]

Definitely, hopefully we see this in V13 at the end of this month!

[@davidstrong7854]

how did you get the new version. Im 12.4.something . its just not something id pay for. I go though periods of wow this is really good its close , to wow this is a student child driving my car. but most of the time , its hmmm why ? someday they will get it. but its not going to be this year.

[@NicksApps]

I think being on WiFi helps get updates sooner but 12.4 is kinda old assuming 12.4.3? Please let me know if you normally connect to WiFi. But oh ya 12.5 is a huge leap but v13 (coming at the end of the month) is going to be a giant leap! V13 is what they were running on the 10.10 event driving people around with no driver!

[@mddell24]

"wow, FSD is moving back to the right lane, First time" hahahaahahah Your vid description just needs a couple more superlatives. I mean, FSD just needs more superlatives.

[@theoriginalcolt]

Tragically sad music. Good content besides that.

[@NicksApps]

Thanks for the feedback I’ll work on my music game!!

[@kevincummins5675]

Nick would love to meet up sometime when I come to Buffalo. I live in Tampa Florida now but really liked your video. I do drive a model Y performance. I am buff a couple times a year as family still lives there I couldn’t help but notice all the road you were driving on extremely familiar. I do have FSD as well. Send me email address so I can reach out and share some of my experiences down here.

[@AyahuascaDataScientist]

I almost didn’t watch this video just because you said “game changer” 🤮🤮🤮

[@AyahuascaDataScientist]

People get sick of cliches

[@NicksApps]

@@AyahuascaDataScientist Thank you for the feedback I will adjust!

[@NicksApps]

@@AyahuascaDataScientist Updated!

[@Docfox143]

It is a game changer!

[@kirklarson]

Pretty close to except (goes on to list every situation except perfect weather conditions during the day on highways). You all are so delusional.

[@NicksApps]

@@kirklarson look at the progress in the last year it’s truly remarkable, also if my car could could be fully autonomous only during the day imagine how much potential there could be. From picking up my groceries to running a taxi service to pay for the car. All without leaving my house😂 Finally if it never got better it’s still an amazing assistant doing 99% of my driving, allowing me to relax a little and also adds another layer of safety!

[@Jasona1976]

Why are you breaking the law by speeding?????????????????/

[@NicksApps]

Good thing I wasn’t driving 😎

[@Think666_]

Is it just me or does the tesla interior look painfully cheap, I mean they don't even have a dash or hud? just a tablet bolted to the middle? This is a £53k-£60k vehicle... I mean this is Mercedes S-Class, Porsche 911 Carrera S, and BMW 7 Series or Mercedes E-Class (new) levels of money...

[@RONderluck]

No, it doesn’t look cheap so that’s just you. And I’m not defending Tesla at all. Here’s what happened people think that they need all sorts of tech and leather and heated and cool seats but they actually don’t.

[@Think666_]

​@@RONderluck Doesn’t that actually highlight the issue? Expectations have risen, especially in premium cars. If Mercedes, BMW, and others are delivering high-end interiors for the same price range, it’s reasonable to expect Tesla to match that standard. Minimalism is one thing, but when it’s at the expense of quality, especially at this price, isn’t that a bit of a double standard?

[@RONderluck]

@ Mercedes and BMW are junk, like everyone knows that.

[@RONderluck]

@ what do you mean especially at this price? What are you talking about? It’s not my fault that you can’t afford it or think it’s expensive because if that’s the case, you need to better yourself and get a better job kid.

[@Think666_]

@@RONderluck Interesting response. Instead of addressing the question of whether Tesla’s interior quality matches other cars in this price range, you deflect to personal insults. Isn’t it fair to expect quality at £53k-£60k, especially if brands like Mercedes and BMW are delivering it?