Full Story Tatsuya Scenario - Persona 2 Eternal Punishment

[@xdanielol4835]

Yep, best protagonist in the series no doubt

[@masonwalsh3546]

Who is the best protagonist in eternal punishment

[@LongTran-kp3kz]

Apparently, this scenario establishes Kei's route in EP ss the 'canon' one since well, story reasons... Damn. I remember coin flipping which one to pick back in the day... Nate, or Ellen... Ah, to not know any better. Well, to be fair, even as a kid I knew Persona had been HEAVILY cut down and altered but just didn't know what their original names were until a little after beating Persona 3. Speaking of which, to think the Kririjo Group and Nanjo Groups were related... Anyway, I digress. What I really meant to say was that I'm happy that the remake added this scenario because I did used to wonder what the hell Tatsuya was doing off screen. Incidentally, when I first played this game as a kid, I did learn that Eternal Punishment was part 2 of duology but again, not much else until years later... forcing me to fill in the blanks over the yeas. One reason I'm so happy I got the PSP remake of Innocent Sin when it came out I was bummed out that there were no plans to localize Eternal Punishment for whatever dumbass reason.... My eternal gratitude for the modders and fan translators htough for FINALLY making an english patch! I'm tech dumb though...

[@player2-lightwater914]

This scenario is exclusive to the PSP version. It didn't exist back then for the PS1 version. The original writer, Tadashi Satomi, came back to write this scenario years after he left Atlus. Aside from that, you still need to play both routes to unlock EX Dungeon on the third walkthrough in both PS1 and PSP version.

[@LongTran-kp3kz]

@@player2-lightwater914 ...Okay. So what? None of that changes whether Kei's scenario is canon or not other than the fact that it was the scenario depicted. Making something canon retroactively isn't anything new....

[@player2-lightwater914]

@@LongTran-kp3kz Not necessarily that Kei's route is canon and Eriko's route is non-canon because of Tatsuya's Scenario. There are several times in other games where both routes/endings are canon. For example, both of Zero and X's routes in Mega Man X4 are canon and both Chris and Jill's routes in Resident Evil 1 are canon. Recent example in Mortal Kombat 1 also revealed that both Fire God Liu Kang and Shang Tsung's endings in Mortal Kombat 11: Aftermath are canon. In essence, both Kei and Eriko's route can still be canon despite Tatsuya's Scenario can only be fully played on Kei's route.

[@LongTran-kp3kz]

@@player2-lightwater914 Actually, neither Chris or Jill's game routes are canon per se. It's something of an original combined path that is never actually seen in the games. A kind of canon 3rd route. As for MK 1 and Megaman... Those are cases where the circumstances either are clearly allowing for 'every ending is canon post whatever game' like with Mortal Kombat, but that was only officially a thing AFTER the Aftermath DLC.. Or Megaman where it's explained outright that both paths are parallel and canon, either in the game, supplementary material, or a direct/sequel mention later on or by retcon... which can happen. This case is more like a retcon than anything else. Now, you 'could' be right and all paths are canon, but you're also clearly denying the retcon angle by simply stating that both MUST be canon when that is not always the case, especially in a very narrative focused game like this. And yes, this is very much a case of retcon. Or, at the very least, you can make a very strong argument for that case since there's no real denial for it other than 'not necessarily'... which is an INCREDIBLY weak argument here... I'm not denying that view and you're free to have it, but it just lacks weight in this particular case as opposed to the retcon argument.... which is way more common than not.

[@edwardsuou]

I would not be bothered by it too much japanese people don't care about canonicity like occidental people do and besides...... Elly is a good character in EP but Nanjo route is the better one because it has Kandori's best version in it.

[@Werewolf293]

That music on when Cat Leutnant talking , dunno why but I hear a glimpse of "Poem of Everyone Souls" on it.

[@theforcedblocker4655]

How do I put a thousand likes on this video? Thanks to that, i learned a few things that explained persona series’ lore a lot, thank you

[@subatomicship]

I don't know why I watched this before finishing IS but god damn this story goes crazy and convinces me to complete both IS and EP.

[@engin93es]

Is it possible to jump right to this Tatsuya Story or do you need to play the game until a certain point? I beat EP a while ago on Ps1 and i'm not in a mood to play it again tbh

[@dalaxdercrisper957]

More Tatsuya Scenario will unlock as you progress through certain chapters in main game. I can't remember it how many chapter you need to compete

[@Cross-chan]

I do know you need to be on the Nanjo route to unlock parts after the first one

[@WanderingNerd21]

​@Cross-chan a year late, yeah. You wouldn't get the full story if you go through the Eriko route

[@player2-lightwater914]

​@@WanderingNerd21 You still need to complete both Nanjo and Eriko's route to unlock EX Dungeon on third walkthrough.

[@vez5478]

2:55:37 besides the 'SOS' before, this thing said 'THIS IS DELICIOUS, THANK YOU, ME DO THIS' in wabun morse code then fighting route it says 'WTF? ME, YOU. EAT WHOLE.'

[@tusk5161]

Could you make a video on how to patch Eternal Punishment? I’ve been trying my hardest to find an ISO for it but it constantly fails.

[@horshorson8198]

Try this link my guy drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1-E4UdlzLRXbRSC1r-BT6MzFPnoWbBGxS?usp=sharing

[@gz4wbz]

just use CDRomance, they have a pre-patched ISO over there

[@raivin7172]

@@gz4wbz bruh I like your nickname

[@GBeLyaPyaP]

57:12 could you give me the ost’s name

[@the1whoplayz]

@@GBeLyaPyaP Persona 2 Eternal Punishment - Shiori

[@felipefelix8650]

1:45:53 Bro, that is fucking deadline from persona 1 (ps1) version.😮

[@justcallmegak606]

Hi Buffmaister are you gonna make a video of english patch for the smt 1? Edit: the ps1 version of smt 1

[@Gustavozxd13]

Guess I'll have to watch this cause I didn't know Elly's route blocked off the tatsuya scenarios lol oh well.

[@player2-lightwater914]

You can play Kei's route on NG+ since you need to complete both his and Eriko's route to unlock EX dungeon on third walk-through.

[@arhum1224]

What's your PPSSPP settings? Are you using the Vulkan renderer? The textbox for me is transparent for other renderers but it's fixed if I use Vulkan, but then the battle effects become bugged.

[@BuffMaister]

Yeah I do use Vulkan to fix the textbox transparent issue. I'm not sure about the battle effects getting bugged from it. Here's a run down on my graphical settings. [Rendering Mode] Backend - Vulkan Mode - Buffered rendering Simulate block transfer effects - checked [Framerate control] Frame skipping - Off Frame skipping type - Number of frames Auto frameskip - not checked alternative speed (in &, 0 = unlimited) - Unlimited Alternative speed 2 (in & , 0 = unlimited) - Disabled [Postprocessing effect] Postprocessing shader #1 - off [Screen layout] Full Screen - checked Use all displays - Not checked [Performance] Rendering resolution - Auto (1:1) VSync - checked Render duplicate frames to 60 Hz - Not checked Buffer graphics commands (faster, input lag) - Up to 2 Hardware transform - Checked Software skinning - Checked Vertex cache - Not checked Lazy texture caching (speedup) - Not checked Retain changed textures (sometimes slower) - Not checked Disable slower effects(speedup) - Not checked Spline/Bezier curves quality - High Hardware tessellation - Not checked [Texture scaling] Upslace level - Off Upscale type - Hybrid + Bicubic Deposterize - Checked Texture Shader - Off [Texture filterting] Anisotropic filtering - 16x Texture filtering - Auto Screen scaling filter - Linear [Hack settings (may cause glitches)] Lower resolution for effects (reduces artifacts - Off [Overlay information] Show FPS counter - None Show debug statistics - Not checked

[@arhum1224]

@@BuffMaister Yo massive thanks for sharing your settings. For me weirdly in Vulkan, when a character lands a hit, a solid opaque box appears instead of the element, physical etc visual effect it should appear, might be something on my end then I'll try a different version of the emulator, thanks! Edit: Figured it out, texture filtering set to "Auto Max quality" was causing the issue.

[@alwaysangry2232]

considering how poor tatsu end, i wonder what does this bring besides extra playable content

[@dirceusantos7308]

Damn is the remake/remaster. Tsumi really messed up Tatsu story.

[@christopherbravo1813]

wdym?

[@dirceusantos7308]

@@christopherbravo1813 found out there are two versions of the second part of P2. Remaster makes it that Tatsu didn't sacrifice his memories to save his friend but hold to them dooming the second world. You already know how that ends from this video. The story should've been: By the end of the first game, the world got destroyed. The team failed to save the world, and only japan remains. If I remember correctly. Philemon, the guy with the butterfly mask. Give him an option of a new world, but Tatsuya can't make contact with his friends, risking the same events that happened in the new repeating themselves. (He can, but he has to be careful with Maya, especially due to the events of the first game) Tatsuya has the option to punch Philemon on the face (cause his the only one who will have the memories acting as an anchor point) or just accept his condition.(Hence eternal punishment) But the new joker appears forcing Tatsuya out of the shadows, putting in motion the events of P2. By the end, he gets to fuse with this world, Tatsuya. Instead of being banished to his old world The second world is where Persona 3 to 5 takes place. This is from head, so I might have gotten some plot points wrong.

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@dirceusantos7308 I don't understand what you're saying. Was the previous version of Eternal Punishment significantly different from this one?

[@dirceusantos7308]

@@christopherbravo1813 Yes. Cause it changes Tatsuya whole plot. From being punished for saving his friends, although a noble sacrifice on his part. To. Braking the rules of the contract due to his own immaturity, dooming the new world to end up like the last one, and Maya dying again.

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@dirceusantos7308 Wait, when did Maya die again?

[@thefacelessjoker]

is there any way to get more HP/SP Incense?

[@blindhouse4744]

Summon Shax and return it to farm HP incense

[@windsweep9162]

What is the song at 1:35:50 ?

[@javierfernandezrodriguez8729]

Is the final boss theme of this game and the Innocent Sin one (the PS1 version).

[@eitokasa]

56:00

[@benderrodriguez6721]

Wait, so can this cat solo the P4-5 cast?

[@UniqueHandles]

Lol pretty much any character in this video is almost entirely untouchable. Tatsuya alone in the first 2 parts took on 2 Byakhee and several other incredibly powerful demons and held his own against a revived Kandori while limited to one Persona, even as a wild-card user. The aforementioned Byakhee wouldn't show up again until P5R's third semester. Then the squad said "fuck it, let's go to the deep collective unconsciousness, we gotta save this chick" and promptly kicked the asses of nearly a dozen of humanity's strongest cognitions, including Eldritch abominations, religious figures, the _true final boss_ of a future game, _Cthulhu_ himself, and the avatar of Nyarlathotep. They did all of that just for the original Tatsuya to go back to the "Other Side" and potentially never see Shiori again, so, essentially, they did all of that to save one woman. The same woman that probably wouldn't have been in trouble in the first place if she had just told Philemon her name...

[@germanofzelda9109]

@@UniqueHandles kandori was playing all along with tatsuya