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Average Jack Archery

Average Jack Archery

Күн бұрын

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@ntburch
@ntburch 3 жыл бұрын
You’ve done it sir! You’ve created the greatest video there is on tuning a bow. Simple, thorough, and confident. Thank you for this service dude!!
@papaschuette
@papaschuette Жыл бұрын
Outstanding video Brother. I have a PSA for everybody. Installing a new string and cable are pretty straight forward. I recommend taking pictures and measurements before you take anything off your bow. Much easier to put back on the right way. When replacing the string and cable, I would steer away from the portable cable presses. Go with a ratcheting strap system. You can't tell if the inner strands of the cable are compromised in any way. At least with a strap, it is way easier to keep an eye on. The reason I say avoid the cable style is because I just got about a third of my left thumb ripped off on November 15th because a cable press snapped when I was taking the string off my bow. My thumb got pulled in between the string and the cam. I lost the part from right at the nail bed to the end. It still isn't completely healed yet either. I'm still gonna be shooting bows for sure. This injury isn't bad enough to stop me from hunting. Just please be careful with the cable presses.
@woodsdog7849
@woodsdog7849 3 жыл бұрын
I built the same draw board thirty years ago after reading Larry Wise's complete book of bow tuning. 2x4 and a boat winch and I screwed a yard stick onto the 2x4 so the deepest part of the handle riser is at "0" to get true draw length. Anyways really enjoy these kinds of videos, working on cam timing, working on turning the bow etc. Keep up the informative vids!!!
@drsmith751
@drsmith751 2 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, thank you for the great video. I just changed my strings for the first time, and your video was very help and provided a lot of encouragement. Really appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge.
@kee7678
@kee7678 3 жыл бұрын
I have that same bow in black. Great video! I just had mine done this week at the bow shop LOL. I can see that you're a great teacher. God created you for this stuff I think! God bless!
@secondhorseman
@secondhorseman 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely want to see a draw board video! Thanks.
@kenthynes315
@kenthynes315 Жыл бұрын
You made a fantastic video here, it is very well organized, the camera doesn’t wave and careen all over like most, your work is exceptional and very professional. Your video is very easy to follow and understand. Thank you for this great instruction.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@garrettclark4360
@garrettclark4360 3 жыл бұрын
A draw board would be super helpful!
@renatugaming5730
@renatugaming5730 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much nate! Actually doing my first string and cable change over the weekend here! Took an eternity( was actually 5,6 weeks) to get a part in but I can finally get to shooting again and getting my first lesson!
@Z33Garage
@Z33Garage 2 жыл бұрын
The closest shop I have is 3 hours away in FL. I ended up buying a cable bow compressor tool, and made a bow holder from 2x4s for my garage. Since my bow is from 06 doesnt make much sense to take it to a shop with the drive, unless something is turbo broken.
@jasontownsend1985
@jasontownsend1985 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely want to see the draw board video!!! Thanks for your videos.
@louisbailey4900
@louisbailey4900 2 жыл бұрын
Proof that English teachers are awesome!!!
@nicolaalberti7736
@nicolaalberti7736 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jack, if it can help, I own three older Hoyts (a 2010 Turbohawk, a 2014 Carbon Spyder Turbo, just like that one, and a 2015 Nitrum 30). They all run exactly 1/4" long on DL, the Carbon Spyder is indeed the one with the most spongy backwall, but the reason may be that it has a #3 cam with a 28 1/2 module, while the Nitrum (also a z5 cam) has a #2 cam with a 28" module. The let off and peak weight respect the advertised specs on both bows, and so do axle to axle lenght and BH. Lastly, I'm not able to archive a perfect bullet hole with any of these Hoyts unless I remove the grip; if I do so, I can shot bullet holes through paper (fletched and bare shaft) all day long. With older Hoyts I suggest to set the rest in such a way that the bottom of the shaft runs through the center of the berger hole, at 90 degree, center shot 13/16" and start tuning from there. Ciao !!!
@Julie-gv5kn
@Julie-gv5kn 10 ай бұрын
I have decided to do my own work! Thank you for your instruction!
@BeardedSportsman
@BeardedSportsman 3 жыл бұрын
I’m all about your technical videos! I recently bought my own EZ Green press and tuned my bow myself. And man, that made it so much more satisfying when I got those perfect bullet holes in paper. I would love to see how you built the DIY draw board!
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYTIpYtnqbN4d5Y
@BeardedSportsman
@BeardedSportsman 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery thank you!
@danielfetchak1865
@danielfetchak1865 2 жыл бұрын
Your a very good teacher you picked the right profession!
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@benjaminbunny99
@benjaminbunny99 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks. Could you make a video on how to change strings on a Prime bow with a 7 string system?
@wcwcgarner2717
@wcwcgarner2717 3 жыл бұрын
I actually have my bow in the shop wright now. I am getting new strings. My bow is New wt 500 shots or so. But I wanted custom strings. My cam was a little bit off. Now it will be fixed. Now my bow is totally custom. Great video. PS. I will be wt out my bow 1 to 2 weeks I hope 1 week.
@renatugaming5730
@renatugaming5730 3 жыл бұрын
you know you're the type of father to make dad jokes when you're making sound effects and randomly singing in your videos😂🤣
@jasonnester9514
@jasonnester9514 2 жыл бұрын
If your giving em back to customer u should have tied loop ends Together asap so u don’t add or remove twists
@lolmaker2012
@lolmaker2012 3 жыл бұрын
+1 for seeing that draw board set up! I have a work table like that so your set up would be perfect.
@michaelharriman2794
@michaelharriman2794 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I would like to know about the portable draw board
@kenthynes315
@kenthynes315 Жыл бұрын
Great video; thank you.
@vwjti18t
@vwjti18t 3 жыл бұрын
Let's see that diy draw board I'm about to make mine soon. Love your videos keep up the good work.
@seanfernandes2062
@seanfernandes2062 2 жыл бұрын
Love watching your videos. Everything you talk about is data driven and to the point. Have you thought about dropping some hats for your online shop? Love supporting good people with putting their name out there
@juanrodriguez-mu7ko
@juanrodriguez-mu7ko 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I want the video on the draw board set up!
@Douger318
@Douger318 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see that draw board please
@renatugaming5730
@renatugaming5730 3 жыл бұрын
1 big tip is to change your strings when you actually have all of the resources you need like a bow press, a bow, and Average Jack Archery videos of course. May sound stupid but I was so bored with waiting for a part that I had my cables and string out for a few weeks and that was plenty of time to get a ton of twists accidentally in, which you then forget when the cables started from. Even when you are taking the strings out, make sure to not twist them as a little twist can go a long way.
@commenthero2514
@commenthero2514 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha 🤣 thats something I would do.
@markjohnson7282
@markjohnson7282 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I would like to get the info in the draw board please.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 2 жыл бұрын
It's on the channel! Just do a search.
@stevebarscz6309
@stevebarscz6309 3 жыл бұрын
Yes to the draw board video!
@rudyjones1139
@rudyjones1139 11 ай бұрын
Can you please explain how you were measuring the draw length while the bow was on the draw board? Thanks.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 11 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYTIpYtnqbN4d5Y
@paullarsen433
@paullarsen433 3 жыл бұрын
Draw Board Video? Yes please!
@billsimonsen2746
@billsimonsen2746 Жыл бұрын
A draw board video sure would be nice!
@brianbender8752
@brianbender8752 Жыл бұрын
Hey I have a 19 Bear revival with hybrid cams how do you read the draw length markings also they say you .can change the string without a press how ? And thank you
@michaelharriman2794
@michaelharriman2794 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video how to set up your peep site
@ianmelody4767
@ianmelody4767 10 ай бұрын
Not a single video KZbin showing a cam properly strung 😢. Just show it. I don't need any words, just a good view
@GoDeep-gn3hf
@GoDeep-gn3hf Жыл бұрын
Every single time I stick my bow into the press I get freaked out. That's what is holding me back from working on more bows.
@boogiemasterofsome
@boogiemasterofsome 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see this same video done with a Parker Hurricane XXT crossbow! Or any crossbow really..
@canadoescalling1800
@canadoescalling1800 3 жыл бұрын
Another vote for draw board video! Also, wondering about how much stock you put into a bows natural arrow spin direction and if you fletch in the same direction.. Does any of that come into play when you are making your arrows? Many thanks for sharing your experience and expertise.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
I won't lie, I've been testing that since August and plan to make a video on it soon...
@deadskimountaineer
@deadskimountaineer 3 жыл бұрын
You’re a bit late, I did a full blown “how hard can it be” string and cable change a week or so ago. It went OK, everything is all tuned up and good after a fair amount of tinkering.
@kenhill2630
@kenhill2630 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos thank you. Would like some information on a Mathew VXR 31.5 2020 anything you could tell me, would be nice Mathew are not cheap here thank you Ken
@libbybenedict
@libbybenedict 3 жыл бұрын
CONGRATS ON 30K SUBSCRIBERS!!
@fifthof1398
@fifthof1398 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on being so cute
@carypeaden4147
@carypeaden4147 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always good. Thanks! What is a bus cable vs a control cable? I have a 2010 Hoyt Maxxim 35 and know which is which, but I am not sure why one is called a bus cable and the other is a control cable.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
Why it's called a "buss" I have ZERO idea! 🤣 But I do know all buss cables are limb connections and control cables are cam connected.
@carypeaden4147
@carypeaden4147 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery I had missed that distinction. I pulled my bow out and looked at at and do see that the bus cable ties the top split limbs to the bottom cam and the control cable ties the two cams together, so that gives me helpful info. Thanks.
@Barboler
@Barboler 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I would like a video on the draw board
@ChrisBusinsky
@ChrisBusinsky 3 жыл бұрын
I’m down for your draw board tutorial.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYTIpYtnqbN4d5Y
@BrianMiller-mj4xb
@BrianMiller-mj4xb Жыл бұрын
Was Gona buy one but to much to do. And live in the bush so if it break I'm finnsh. Think I'll just go for the old style
@40beretta1
@40beretta1 3 жыл бұрын
it is intimidating for sure, not to say I'm not willing to get myself into trouble... Did I miss you adding a "Twist"....and what is that actually ??
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
Literally adding a twist to a cable when its off the bow. Adding a twist shortens it.
@j.r.outdoors247
@j.r.outdoors247 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Now I want to build a bow press. Have you been building tee pees too. I also love the boot for an arrow holder.
@johnscott841
@johnscott841 2 жыл бұрын
I never change a full set of string and cables at once, I stagger them. Makes maintaining my tuning much easier, just my preference
@billjones9708
@billjones9708 Жыл бұрын
A video on making a portable draw board would be amazing.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery Жыл бұрын
Already on the channel. Check it out!
@pattowle4434
@pattowle4434 3 жыл бұрын
Yes please on the draw board video.
@DavidJones-ij6xt
@DavidJones-ij6xt Жыл бұрын
I've got a hoyt bow I need to change the strings and cables on how would I do that without a bow press or would I need a bow press
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery Жыл бұрын
You need some sort of press. Impossible without it.
@dougdiplacido2406
@dougdiplacido2406 3 жыл бұрын
I have wondered what you taught and what level of student. Now I will be intimidated on using proper English when I comment. Great video and thanks for taking the time. Peace for now till the next one.
@johnsand8495
@johnsand8495 Жыл бұрын
Whats the average cost to replace a string and cable on a compound bow.
@MusicMinisterJP7
@MusicMinisterJP7 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'd like to ask you two questions, 1- What is, adjusting cam timing? 2- Is it normal for the peep sight to angle to the right, when string is relaxed, and straight when pulled? If not, what does it signify? My strings are not frail. This is a 2007 Martin Magnum Bengal, with original strings. Please be explicit, thanks.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
1. Cams rotating the same and coming to full draw at the same time. 2. Peep twist is okay as long as it twists straight when you're at full draw.
@MusicMinisterJP7
@MusicMinisterJP7 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery Thanks,, so it doesn't apply to a single Cam bow?
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
Single cams usually have witness marks on the cam that mark where the cable so sit inbetween when the bow is at rest.
@MusicMinisterJP7
@MusicMinisterJP7 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery Pardon my lack of knowledge here, I didn't understand this part. In either case, is it safe to say, that single cam marks don't change its position on their own?
@CMBDIA
@CMBDIA 2 жыл бұрын
I like to tell my buddies, "trust me, I'm an engineer" . fun to say lol. I'm a software engineer by trade
@wcwcgarner2717
@wcwcgarner2717 3 жыл бұрын
I just got my bow back from the shop. I got new strings. The bow was new but wanted new strings. I forgot to ask. When should I wax them? Thank you.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
It all depends. I like around 2-300 minimum shots between waxings. That's about 2-3 weeks worth of shooting for me these days.
@wcwcgarner2717
@wcwcgarner2717 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery thank you
@archeryaddict6750
@archeryaddict6750 3 жыл бұрын
Draw board video for sure
@robertjay1179
@robertjay1179 2 жыл бұрын
It was for me , just a good video because I would have liked to see some close ups while you were stringing it. I am obviously a beginner at all this.
@SalchiPapa73
@SalchiPapa73 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Nate, I could use a little help. I bought my first bow this year a Mathews v3 31. I’ve got about 5-600 arrows through it and am not happy with the stock zebra strings. This bow after 350 shots went back to the ship to check everything and within the last 150-200 shots as become very noisy with a twang I feel is all string. It’s currently at the shop timing is good and poundage was at 59.8 as I’m shooting 60 with a 27” draw. I have them putting ABB platinum strings on it at this point but I’m kinda unhappy about it since I just got it 2 months ago. Am I correct with the correction of the noise with string replacement? Can you even guess that through the inter webs??? Thanks from a fellow PA boy/old guy
@rdarnell15
@rdarnell15 3 жыл бұрын
do you pay need to pay attention to the riser when timing cams, as far as being plumb? ive noticed on my ez green draw board the riser is not plumb up and down when drawn back and if i correct it with a torpedo level it changes the cable stop positions.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
I try as best as I can to have the bow upright. Not Definitely break out any tools to make it plumb, but upright.
@johnwalter6410
@johnwalter6410 3 жыл бұрын
They make a draw board for that press you have. Thats how my EZ is set up. Works great.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
I contemplated getting it to streamline the system, but couldn't justify the cost over my DIY option. But it definitely is nice!
@johnwalter6410
@johnwalter6410 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery Ahhh, Yeah the one you made works for sure., I have limited space which is why it worked out great for me. What part of PA are you in? I grew up in Dimock
@renatugaming5730
@renatugaming5730 3 жыл бұрын
Drawboard? 30 bucks? YES PLEASE!!! lol. You've convinced me!
@patherbert6684
@patherbert6684 2 жыл бұрын
should you always change cables with the string?
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 2 жыл бұрын
If the string is prematurely damaged, replace just the string. If all are the same age and the string needs replaced, I would replace the full set.
@waynehumphrey8910
@waynehumphrey8910 3 жыл бұрын
I changed my strings and cables on my obsession turmoil RZ lost 4lb draw Weight ??? I wanted to keep it set up for a back up bow I got a new elite remedy for my primary bow how often should I switch in between bows I try to shoot every night should I shoot one then the other the same night or shoot one one night then the other one another night
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
I keep backup bows as backup bows. They sit the bench until I need them and only pull them out to knock the rust off. If you have intentions of using the Obsession frequently, then do as you describe. I personally like to stick with my bow that I will hunt with, 3D with, indoor with, etc. to keep muscle memory and grip pressure consistent as I go through that season.
@SamSung-qy5hj
@SamSung-qy5hj 3 жыл бұрын
Thx, but I really wish you would have started with putting the bow into the press and how to position the clamps. I've got the EZbowpress and a PSE Dominator DC and a Mathews TX5. Still looking for a proper manual how to do it ... still sadly. I mean why wouldn't you film the whole process, once you've made up your mind? Well, thanks anyway. So now with your manual I don't even know how far I should compress the bow and how to dislocate the old string.
@thirdworldadv1312
@thirdworldadv1312 2 жыл бұрын
Did I detect a pill stash under your workbench?
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 2 жыл бұрын
Pill bottles are excellent for storage. Especially things that need to be kept dry. I use mine for washers, shims, eclips, and milkweed in the woods!
@sahhull
@sahhull 3 жыл бұрын
The scarey part of the whole process is compressing the bow for the first time. Don't forget to turn down the limbs a few turns, just to give the limbs a break. Everything else is pretty simple.
@h0tkoko
@h0tkoko 3 жыл бұрын
Can I make my own sting and cables or do I buy them from a shop?
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
Waaayyyyy more safe and cost effective to just buy strings and cables.
@GertTown
@GertTown 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be good to clean and grease the axles whole you have it apart?
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 2 жыл бұрын
The bearings spin independent of the axles. There's no grease needed for the axles themselves. Wipe them down if they have crud on them, but grease is unnecessary.
@capthawkeye8010
@capthawkeye8010 2 жыл бұрын
So I noticed you didn't feel the old string was unsafe-just worn. It might be hard to describe but how much more tearing would need to see to declare a bowstring unsafe to draw and use?
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 2 жыл бұрын
If you have to ask, "Ya think It'll go another year?"....Then you shouldn't take it another year. 🤣
@zhickman338
@zhickman338 3 жыл бұрын
Does that blue contraption measure draw length as well as poundage?
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
That's just a scale. I just have marks on my bench for draw lengths.
@vernanderson2850
@vernanderson2850 3 жыл бұрын
Yes please do a draw bored billed
@Rodbuilder109
@Rodbuilder109 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see how to make a draw board.
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 2 жыл бұрын
Done. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYTIpYtnqbN4d5Y
@wiscokid9890
@wiscokid9890 3 жыл бұрын
Since you brought it twice? Three? Yeah kind of want to see the draw board now hahaha
@christsideurbanstreetminis2183
@christsideurbanstreetminis2183 3 жыл бұрын
Also I was wondering your opinions on tying nock knots then dlop?
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
Yup! I always run a soft knot on the bottom side of the nock.
@christsideurbanstreetminis2183
@christsideurbanstreetminis2183 3 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery I thought you said something about it in this video, but when i watched your video about tying dlop peep and serving you didn't go over the soft knot so I wasn't sure
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
@@christsideurbanstreetminis2183 Yeah for that video I just showed the form of making the dloop. Didn't go into the other bells and whistles some folks do. Everyone does it a little different.
@AaronMaz
@AaronMaz 2 жыл бұрын
So what bow would you say is the easiest to restring and tune?
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 2 жыл бұрын
Any two track or three track binary cam system.
@AaronMaz
@AaronMaz 2 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery can you give me your top 3? And thanks for the fast response 👍🏻 much appreciated
@philippbayer866
@philippbayer866 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. That was good
@christsideurbanstreetminis2183
@christsideurbanstreetminis2183 3 жыл бұрын
Vid for draw board please
@benjaminbunny99
@benjaminbunny99 Жыл бұрын
What scale is that?
@jasonball4732
@jasonball4732 2 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the guy that makes your strings?
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 2 жыл бұрын
Craig from Wicked Threads Custom Strings in Dillsburg PA
@caseyberning7789
@caseyberning7789 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the more descriptive videos on how to exactly get cams in time. More of these please??
@marticusthe1st
@marticusthe1st Жыл бұрын
It’s the camera angle change music for me.
@yesye7487
@yesye7487 2 жыл бұрын
So I shot my bow and it go un done I just bought it
@jasonnester9514
@jasonnester9514 2 жыл бұрын
I suck at math how do u figure ur let off and holding weight what formula u use
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 2 жыл бұрын
Take holding weight, divide by peak weight. That will give a decimal number. Whatever is the remainder to get to 100% is the letoff percentage. 10/60=.16 Meaning 84% letoff.
@jasonnester9514
@jasonnester9514 2 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery at full draw on a scale won’t treat give me both peak weight and holding weight
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 2 жыл бұрын
You have to see what the peak is halfway through the draw cycle, then see what the holding weight is at full draw. Need to build a draw board for ease of use. Have a video on my channel about how to do that.
@jasonnester9514
@jasonnester9514 2 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery just ordered on for my lca press
@jasonnester9514
@jasonnester9514 2 жыл бұрын
@@averagejackarchery unfortunately I don’t understand the math very you explained to me math is almost impossible for me
@Boqin
@Boqin Жыл бұрын
Sir, teacher, I'm allowed to ask how to make a bow pulley
@ImNotANoob97
@ImNotANoob97 2 жыл бұрын
Say it's not scary when your friend helping let's go of the tension and it cuts the end of your finger off
@danielfarrow8686
@danielfarrow8686 9 ай бұрын
Less telling me how good you are and how much crap you've done Mr. English teacher and just show us how to do it already.
@jasonnester9514
@jasonnester9514 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t see your email
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 2 жыл бұрын
Literally in the description of every video I make.
@judefuselier
@judefuselier 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, vid on draw bored....
@kaminarimizu411
@kaminarimizu411 Ай бұрын
Every single video on installing these is all talk and poor camera angle. It would've been amazing if you actually showed WHERE THE STRINGS ARE GOING. JFC
@ketamyna
@ketamyna 2 жыл бұрын
Talk so much and can't see a bloody thing of what you're doing.
@burnbabyburn-od5sy
@burnbabyburn-od5sy Жыл бұрын
a little tip stop telling youre life styory and everything between and string the fucking bow , just saying
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery Жыл бұрын
Thanks for feeding the algorithm!
@kaminarimizu411
@kaminarimizu411 Ай бұрын
what a waste of time
@vincentdarby1080
@vincentdarby1080 3 жыл бұрын
interesting but you talk so long I fell asleep
@averagejackarchery
@averagejackarchery 3 жыл бұрын
Greatness takes time.
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