Fullmetal Alchemist 2003 Hohenheim Speech

[@kunaldebnath3879]

2023 marks the 20th anniversary of FMA '03

[@Oldtakunovideo79]

Damn going to be 21 this year. We're getting old

[@PizzaBagels589]

While I understand why it didn’t happen in brotherhood (or at least, it happened in more subtle ways), it’s nice having Hohenheim be a father again. It doesn’t make up for his mistakes, as he himself acknowledges, but it does help heal a wound that was there for both of them.

[@archangeruriseofthewizards8649]

Did you watch the movie?

[@PizzaBagels589]

@@archangeruriseofthewizards8649 I did. I know that being a father again doesn't last very long and doesn't end well. Sadly Hohenheim still takes the route of heeding to his guilt of the past rather than tending to his sons in the present. That said, even if it was brief, I think it was a healing moment for Ed and Hohenheim.

[@equivalentexchangeisalie5726]

@@PizzaBagels589 Unfortunately Hohenheim committed terrible sins in his past and believed he needed to be punished for them. And Envy was in their way so he sacrificed himself. He and Ed had some great father son bonding time but it was very sad that Al never got to see his father again 😢

[@juanordonez5667]

OG FMA is so damn under-rated

[@joer8954]

It’s such a great story and should be more well known.

[@BlankestKnight]

Having read the manga, I actually prefer the darker tone of this series even if it isn’t a 100% accurate adaptation. Brotherhood is more of a traditional shonen. This felt like a much more adult version of FMA that made you think on a philosophical level and about morality. The perversions of science, immortality, loss, etc.

[@hortonome]

OG FMA is masterpiece

[@IsraelYoungLion]

Man, FMA 2003 was so deep. What a very nice ending, there’s not always going to be a happy ending and there’s consequences for messing with the natural order of nature. The show pretty much stood on solid ground with this theme unlike brotherhood

[@jakubgodyn7413]

It just had a different theme than Brotherhood. Brotherhood was very in line with its message.

[@animonk1001]

without a doubt my favorite anime love 2003 so much

[@dromalloma2651]

The guy who voices Hoenheim does a superb job.

[@ashtonchane6126]

That’s Scott McNeal. The same guy who is most famous for voicing both Dinobot and Waspinator and even Silverbolt from Transformers Beast Wars. And he even got to voice Wolverine that one time, in X-Men Evolution.

[@inesatt1313]

​@@ashtonchane6126 My hero!!!!

[@maggie8317]

​@@ashtonchane6126 and Kouga from Inuyasha!!

[@DravenR2019]

And Duo Maxwell from Mobile Suit Gundam Wing.

[@abodeggeeezz2450]

@@ashtonchane6126I knew it he is wolverine

[@TrenchMan93]

Reminder ed (2003) is still alive today and a hundred and something years old with kids, grandkids, great grandkids still out there. I like to think time goes slower in his world, or he’s aging very very slow because of the transport, or he takes very good care of himself. He and al are canonically still alive in our world and live happily. Just a shame they never got to go home.

[@Maes777]

The 2003 version was so much deeper and more insightful. Love it to this day!

[@deaj8450]

This right here is why I like 03 more than brotherhood. The emotional maturity really resonates with me, it feels like a truly adult show. That in the end you can have a good ending despite it not being what you envisioned or sought after. Despite it not being perfect, what you imagined. The characters didn't really get what they want in this show, but at the end, they're finally each living peaceful lives and they can cope with where they fell short.

[@umutkaya3293]

2003 is masterpiece

[@mouadchaglalchimistefullme6116]

I love this scene

[@The_Wonders_of_Engineering]

THIS is Fullmetal Alchemist. The perfect thematic ending to the series. Equivalent exchange is a promise to make your actions mean something. Sometimes you can try and try and get get nowhere. But all the sacrifices you made along will mean something if you dont give in to despair. Their journey wasnt ultimately fruitless. And the final shot of Ed and Al is just perfect. Tho they got Al's body back, there were consequences. And ends as it began with a promise between brothers, to have a new journey, not to fix some mistake, but to one day see each other again. This is why 2003 is really the definitve FMA.

[@kingpiye7060]

Its insane to think a studio could direct an ip better than its own author same thing happened with hellsing,They took all the concepts and philosohies from the original anime and executed pretty well.

[@TheGreatHohenheim]

​@@kingpiye7060I wouldn't say it was better than Arakawa's story & ending. The manga/Brotherhood wasn't about just getting their bodies back as the OP suggested. It was also about the journey & experiences & connections gained in their search. The series sought to explore the question of what it means to be human. Ed's decision to offer his alchemy (his 'knowledge') to Truth for Alphonse's body was him setting aside the pursuit of knowledge for another. I say all this because the 2003 series was good & had its strengths, but that doesn't mean Arakawa's story was bad or lacked its own philosophical claims.

[@The_Wonders_of_Engineering]

@@TheGreatHohenheim The manga is better than brotherhood. Alot of problems I have with brotherhood come from adaptational choices that I feel really ruin the tone. But ultimately I still think 2003 transcends the manga by alot. Id also argue 2003's ending much better encapsulates the idea of their journey being also about the experiences and friends they gained along the way. Ed giving up his alchemy rings pretty hollow to me, because it feels like cop-out almost. The fact that he could just do that and its sufficient payment for al's body kinda comes out out nowhere. Plus he doesnt necessarily needs to go through character growth to reach that conclusion, he just sorta figures it out. If he had figured it at at the beginning of the stpry he would have done it in a heartbeat regardless so it didnt require growth on his part

[@Themarch001]

It was great but Brotherhood was much more enjoyable with a better ending, its crazy to think that there are ppl out threre who think that 2003 has a better ending lmfao, too depressing and messy.

[@The_Wonders_of_Engineering]

@@Themarch001 Brotherhood ties everything together with a nice bow, but thst doesn't always make for a grest ending. I'd argue brotherhood's ending betrays the themes of the series and gives the characters horribly un-earned happy endings.

[@tripletriad]

"Earth turns on a tilted axis just doing the best it can." 😭

[@TheShockVox]

Man I wish Scott McNeil came back for Brotherhood

[@MATHILDA1378]

He's look like a Father Figure

[@mr.l3938]

U spitting hard facts tho fr

[@edwaaarrrd]

i cried to this before

[@regluvnisha]

The OG Fullmetal alchemist is better than brotherhood, there I said it!

[@maccaroni3694]

Those apples must be made of gold to be so expensive

[@chorizojoe8282]

I’m about to watch OG FMA, if I understand correctly, when Ed sacrificed himself, and ended up in our world, was he also shown the future?

[@hr__5810]

@@wakarenok i think he meant about that nuclear bomb? Ed saw some glimpse of that event when he talk with Hoheinheim

[@chorizojoe8282]

@@hr__5810 yeah that’s exactly what I meant. I don’t mind spoilers; why or how did he know about the nuclear bombs the US would drop?

[@bootyjiggle5695]

@@hr__5810are you talking about when he was in the city when there was an explosion? No, he just jumped into a variant of himself in our world and coincidentally that incident happened right when he jumped in. He then ended up killing his variant and jumping back to his world

[@firstnext5482]

​@@chorizojoe8282 It was probably so signify how much death happens in "our" world in order to fuel "their" world. Or, Spoilers maybe, dunno: The movie covers that in the original world (the one with alchemy) there was an alchemist who figured out what you can do with uranium and HE made a rudimentary bomb. Ed and Al basically knew (or assumed) that "our" world will eventually figure out the same thing at SOME point. The only differing thing between the two worlds was the magic of alchemy- all the physics still exists and operates the same- so uranium being turned into a bomb by alchemy just means uranium can be turned into a bomb under conditions you don't need alchemy for, just an understanding of physics.

[@thebonfireofgains]

Wait Hohenheim's quote about perfection was the same as Roy Mustang's by the end of the episode Also how he spoke about the price, their hard work, kinda foreshadows Arakawa's endgame years later with Ed solving the ultimate question: sacrificing his alchemical knowledge to save Al And it sorta happens in the 2003 series

[@cosmichome626]

Yeah, it was kinda weird without explanation in brotherhood that you can sacrifice alchemy for saving literal life. Here it is exposed as some contradiction between logic and kinda justice, like explanation is that Edward just deserved it for all his struggles which makes it more relatable. But without Brotherhood it would be hard (at least for me) to point out the importance of this ending.

[@Fomalhaut_Antares]

What is this incredible melody?

[@flow_987]

An adaptation of Chopin's Etude No. 3. I think it's an incredible detail that when Ed enters the "real" world, the background music shifts to real world music like Beethoven or Chopin

I liked this anime until the end...it got hard to follow. Brotherhood on the other hand was fulfilling. Almost a perfect anime. There were tears when Ed got his arm back, then his brother back.