'Amorim Must HATE Ten Hag!' 😂 | Uncensored

[@FullTimeDevils]

Dorgu on £40,000 p/w is definitely a step in the right direction with these transfers!

[@katherinemiller7570]

Blame the Glazers not ETH they never got him number 1 targets. Not his fault our negotiators were rubbish. Other clubs get there managers main targets.

[@82united]

@@katherinemiller7570 GLAZERS OUT INIOS OUT 🎉🎉🎉

[@Tdoggg]

Applaud the wages he’s on all you want the fact are we bought Malacia for 12 mill and now we’re signing another Malacia for 30 mill 😂 he’s playing the the bottom half of the Italian league for Lecce 😂 defo a step in the right direction 😂😂

[@Danny-iv5uu]

Shock Joe thought Maguire was man of the match against palace despite being at fault for both goals,playing then onside,too slow to run back,not switched on for rebounds letting his man roam

[@Danny-iv5uu]

Let’s be real, de gea in his worst season hasn’t made as many mistakes as onana AND onana doesn’t even have de gea agility and save ability. No playing out so we are tangibly worse off with onana

[@sgoredraw1455]

It’s nice to see fans in the comments not falling for the “ it’s all ETHs fault “ line . That argument is soooooo naive and boring . It almost shows people don’t understand the club and football in general to believe it was all down to him .

[@luckythrone893]

Thank you. People really beleive that the manager decides who to get how much to pay for him, how to negotiate with clubs. They think that he likes to leave summer signings to the last second and new players not being ready for preseason. They also beleive that Eric is the one that doesn’t want to sign anyone in the winter 😂

[@nc3music920]

Its a collective thing with United. Terrible decisions over a long period of time. Ten Hag did a poor job too though

[@SFM35.8]

Ten Hag was never the problem, Ronny on this channel was wrong, i usually agree with him

[@Hhammer]

Agreed. He actually worked miracles And people are saying he paid 85 for Antony Umm no. If we went for Antony earlier on in the transfer market he was a fraction the price. The owners failed us because they felt we didn’t need him, then we lost twice and they panicked with him and Casemiro

[@paulstockton7121]

It's lazy to blame the guy who got sacked and is no longer in the country to defend himself. It's also comforting to believe everything will improve now he's gone.

[@cshore1833]

When you see titles like this you realise how weak our fan base is. All the glazers fault, not ten hagg. No modern day manager should buy players. You need a specialist recruitment team

[@SyndiHD]

While I agree completely with the manager not picking players, it’s undeniable that the talent ID from ETH was shocking.

[@jessetaylor4357]

I’d say both are equally to blame mate so don’t get upset over title of video just chill out and actually watch it for context than being reactionary matey

[@averma12]

@@SyndiHD Dude, do you know what shocking means. Lisandro, De ligt, Mazraoui , Eriksen are not shocking at all.

[@SyndiHD]

2 signed under Ineos, one on a free transfer in the first year and hardly played. Then you have Lisandro who by the time he’s back will have spent more time injured? 😂

[@CallumWijker]

@@SyndiHDten hags talent id was the likes of de jong, Harry Kane, gakpo, Mcallister etc etc, even if you blame Antony on him, he was scouted by many top clubs nd should’ve cost below £50m, again that’s on the glazers

[@s.yahska]

ETH got us 8th with this squad + injuries, seems like a miracle at this point.

[@Imverylostrightnow]

Half of the players we got now is because of him 😂

[@saynotothemeta993]

Won us a cup every season with one of the worst squads in the league yet our low iq fanbase calls him crap

[@tedstan9734]

He spent £620 million making us England's worst ever champions league group team. Conceding the most goals 15 and only getting 3 points in 6 games. Worse than other English team in champions league history. This seasons Europa he drew the first 3 games against utter shite teams. How can people make him blameless for what we paid for Anthony. He was 38 million Euros 4 weeks earlier but we ended paying £82 million. Obviously he insisted on getting his man no matter the cost. He threw De Gea out the club and replaced him with a £50 million clown who couldn't lace big Daves boots. £72 million for Hojlund???? He let Rashford get away with murder and still picked him. Amad saved his job but didn't rate him and wouldn't start him. He left us with fuck all left in the bank and in 13th place in the league. I'd argue that he got considerably longer than he should have got. I'm still firmly in the camp that Ineos should have stuck by their guns and sacked him after the cup final. They really wanted to but we're afraid it wouldn't be a good look. He'd long lost the dressing room and most of the fan base. But in hindsight it was a huge mistake keeping him on. Massive in fact.

[@saynotothemeta993]

@@tedstan9734 wow I bet he's gutted if he spent 620 million and then got sacked.. he must've had to remortgage his house! Maybe people should be more grateful to ten haag, he spent £620m!

[@davidublin]

@tedstan9734 yep .... ten hag flew all over Europe on his holidays with the clubs credit card buying 3rd choice options..... poor from paddock and some our fans would swallow a brick

[@carlmoss9054]

Why is Ten Hag still getting blamed? Transfers were a mess long before he got appointed, managers don't negotiate the deals.

[@3DSte1985]

Because he suggested all the players we bought, he had final say. Sure he didn't negotiate, that is on the higher management. But even if you lower the wages and fees, how many have been decent consistently?

[@carlmoss9054]

@3DSte1985 he suggested De Jong, Kane, Gakpo, Gravenberch. so why didn't he get final say with them? Doesn't matter who the manager wants if the people negotiating can't get it done then panic sign a completely different profile

[@3DSte1985]

@@carlmoss9054 Who says he didn't? You do know that football in real isn't just a case of 'i want this player go and get him'. The people negotiated for the players he wanted, some we could get, others not. But this is why we shouldn't blindly scream 'back the manager' as the manger can get it wrong, and when you add a manager who is awful at judging players suited to the PL with a (at the time) negotiation team who are awful at negotiating, you get our current mess. Is he entirely to blame? No, but he gets at least half the blame as he did have final say, you may not want to hear the truth, but it is, so he should get hauled over the coals along with everyone else.

[@Elezium]

@@3DSte1985 Antony was a Glazers panic-buy, ETH's 1st choice for that position was Gakpo who said no as we weren't playing UCL that season. We all know about the De Jong saga, and Casemiro was a Glazers panic-buy cos De Jong kept saying no and made United look like idiots for chasing him all summer despite him saying no the entire time. ETH also wanted an experienced striker to 1) be the starting 9, and 2) teach Højlund the ropes for a couple seasons until Højlund was ready to lead the line but that never happened either.

[@3DSte1985]

@Elezium ETH sending them on a wild goose chase for De Jong is on him. I love how everyone thinks he is blameless yet most of the players bought for him were players who have played under him before, or recommend by him and he STILL played shit on a stick football.

[@davidublin]

Ten hag wasn't flying all over Europe on his holidays with the clubs credit card and paying over the odds for 3rd choice options

[@luckythrone893]

The guys of paddock don’t know nothing. All they do is repeat what the mainstream say they don’t add anything. They also never say something that could be controversial

[@QuestionEverything79]

@@luckythrone893”don’t know nothing” 😂😂😂 Ffs

[@davidublin]

Clueless from paddock

[@kaiz2750]

​@@luckythrone893 don't know nothing? So they know everything 😂

[@SamBerbatov2010]

Question on this, I agree Ten Hag didn’t negotiate any fees. But surely he must’ve been aware of the fees before they finally got signed off? I find it hard to believe he wasn’t made aware until the contract was signed. In which case, surely he should’ve said “are you fucking kidding me? Cancel the deal and let’s find someone else”? Doesn’t that make him responsible in part also?

[@marcusaurelius49]

The Glazers and Woodward are 100% to blame for where this club is. 20 years of mismanagement and stealing money from this club has left us at this point. No manager could succeed in this club. No one.

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

Uhm...were many trophies not won since 2005 under the full ownership of my beloved benevolent free spending of *THEIR OWN MONEY* Glazers ?

[@somegeezer4058]

You can blame the Glazers for mismanagement but the club's still had more than enough money to spend for us to compete with the top 4.

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

@@somegeezer4058 you can't buy success...it's been proven time and time again

[@thebiglebrowski3695]

No manager took us as far down as Ten Hag did, and he spent the most money. Maybe no manager could have succeded, but he didn't just not succeed. He failed spectacularly. 615m to finish 8th is ridiculous.

[@ulricjude]

Honestly, blaming Ten Hag for signing players on the pricy price… y’all really should know better. For Antony? When the club chose to sit on their arses and wait for the fee to bloat up instead of getting him for 30something earlier in the window. For Casemiro? When the club failed to get De Jong or a decent alternative? Ten Hag didnt play Casemiro for weeks after signing him. Not his choice. Who else were ‘his’ failures? He was judged for signing them but make no mistake, they weren’t his fault.

[@fathi573]

Ten Hag’s targets were simply unrealistic. De Jong did not want to leave Barca yet he insisted on him. Kane would’ve cost United 150 million. He still sanctioned the Casemiro and Antony moves for a combined 150 million. He insisted on Mason Mount for 50 million when he had a year left on his contract.

[@THE_MILLENNIAL_AFRICAN]

It was clearly his fault. He wanted Mount, Antony, Holland, zirkze, and Onana. If you can't see this then your funny. He manage to get 3rd in a season with players he didn't buy. Sums up the guy.

[@MotsieH]

@@THE_MILLENNIAL_AFRICAN you thick

[@THE_MILLENNIAL_AFRICAN]

@MotsieH not really. Really tin actually. But you on the other hand. I'm guessing you weigh over 150 pounds.

[@chikku807]

​@@THE_MILLENNIAL_AFRICAN you just be dense

[@Tdoggg]

You guys are seriously dumb. We’ve been heading to this point for over 10 years. Ten Hag was the best manager we’ve had since Fergie don’t get it mistaken. 2 seasons, 4 finals, 2 trophies, champions league football. Players like Mainoo and Garnacho went from unheard of to two of the hottest prospects in world football under Ten Hag in only a season and a half. Imagine what he could have done if he was given the 4 years for example it took Sir Alex to do anything. I’m confident it will be over 50 years before we get a manager that achieves what Erik did in his 2 season. But it’s what you all wanted and now you’re sticking up for a pound land Jose Mourinho that genuinely thinks Manchester United should play in a back 5, without wingers and create zero chances for 90 mins. Just accept it, Amorim is nowhere near Ten hag. I knew it and said things would get worse if we sacked Erik, I said this manager wouldn’t fancy Mainoo and Garnacho when everyone else said ‘imagine what a better coach could do with these players’ such a deluded fanbase it’s unreal. Ten Hag was an attack minded coach and could have rebuilt the entire club with the core values of Manchester United, he’s one of the very best at developing youth players and that just facts. He was perfect for this club in its current situation. But now we’ve gone a complete different route, all the players are now wrong for this system and we have no money to sort that other than to sell our best academy players which would be the final nail in the coffin for traditions and history this club is still clinging on to. Amorim is shit, nothing against the bloke but this is the most boring football I’ve seen since Fergie retired, it’s more boring and painful than the Van Gaal days.

[@nathanclyne442]

@@Tdoggg garnacho was heard of when ole brought him on the scene, the players carried eth individually to cup finals if you didn’t see that then your watching the wrong sport, imagine being a manger and not having a style of play, a Farmer out of his depth I’m glad he’s gone, best manager since fergie??? Some smoke your on my friend, if he’s so good then why is he at home now scratching his 🥜

[@Tdoggg]

@ why are you making shit up 😂 Ole brought through Garnacho no he didn’t you fucking melt. I’m sorry if you were wrong about Erik but you don’t need to attack him and diminish his achievements over 2 season which we will probably never see from a manager in another 100 years. I’m sorry Ruben is proven to be a worse coach that can’t use young talents and develop them, sorry your Ruben is a defensive, 5 at the back, poor man’s Jose Mourinho. I called all this long before Erik was sacked. I got all the abuse but now I can say I told you all so.

[@slingshotonmars]

Eric was never the problem at this club. Anyone who thinks that is absolutely naive as shit

[@chatters190]

I mean… yea sure

[@paudiebourke4384]

100%

[@Chriztefur]

Not THE problem, but definitely A problem. He left us in 12th without a midfield and was forcing Amad out in favour of an £85m spinning top.

[@pgc99]

Yeah cos Ten Hag was a genius, starting Antony in favour of Amad. Think before you type 😂

[@joejohnson3393]

Cherry picking antony out of his old club though, he must have known how bad he was?!? Doesnt matter what we paid, erik got who he wanted (barring the unattainable de jong) we all hoped eth was the guy but it quickly became obvious he wasn't. We were letting Fulham n co have 20+ shots and could barely scrape 5 together. Amorim is now clearing up the mess, slowly yeah, but let's see this time next year before we judge

[@triggasoweto6734]

Ten Hag won 2 trophies lads, beat Barca, gave us the bet day since Fergie last May against City. Promoted Collyer, Mainoo and Garna. Probably the best we've had since Mou or even Fergie

[@obasaxy1]

Mind you Ten hag came 3rd, finished 8th, won 2 trophies, got us back in Europe after a poor season with most of these same players. He had a poor start to the season and Ineos panicked sacked him. We’re where we are because of the glazers and Ineos. Also the new system. It’s not Amorim’s fault. He has to make do with these lot that can’t play his system. You want to tell me a team that’s won 2 trophies consecutively all of a sudden can’t play football anymore. No something stinks really bad.

[@theatreourdreams1]

The arrogance of United fans sometimes is hard to stomach. It actually makes me think we probably deserve all this. We needed humbling. To blame Ten Hag now for everything after winning two cups and doing his best despite mistakes along the way. To now talk smack against him for everything. Wow!! It may take a looooong time.

[@MrReynoso]

I'm happy to see everyone realizing finally that Ten Hag wasn't the cause of where we are. The squad would have looked different even going back as far as Ole if we had football people overseeing our signings.

[@hkkd-zx2]

So we're blaming Ten Hag now. Fan channels have to be one of the worst things to happen to our fanbase. Not long til you're blaming Amorim next👍

[@fathi573]

How can they blame a manager that had us in 8th last and by the time he got sacked was in 13th. The same manager mainly signed players from his agency who overall cost United 600 million pounds, the majority of whom are not good enough. The same manager that kept acting oblivious to the fact that United were the worst they had been in 30 years.

[@darrenhamilton665]

This is the worse fan channel out there. They are on united books 100%

[@AFRAY_99]

@@darrenhamilton665oooh you’ve got it all worked out Darren! Don’t forget your tin foil hat

[@hkkd-zx2]

@@fathi573 The same manager that game off the back of the shitshow that happened under Ragnik (not Ragniks fault). The same manager who had to deal with the incompetence of Murtough and Arnold. The same manager that had to babysit Sancho, deal with a suspect Greenwood, a Deadwood team. I will be here when you start to blame Amorim

[@dantoes1]

Last day I checked EtH didn't set the prices of signings, we overpaid for an decate. Recruitment has been an issue for a while. EtH didn't do everything good, but he has been an better Influence than most managers before him. I was hoping for better content Of you guys.

[@giorgiob8464]

Recruitment's been an issue since glazers arrived, but became a serious issue when Sir Alex retired and Woodward and Arnold ran the club.

[@fathi573]

What has been good about his influence?

[@davidlooney7356]

Whilst I agree, he was heavily involved in the decision to sign Antony, Mount, Malacia, Hojlund, Zirkzee and Casemiro which have almost all been a disaster

[@TheUnitedfan93]

@@davidlooney7356 He didn't pay 80 mil for Antony. Mount was a weird one (Given our tactics), but he's been injured constantly. But he was also wanted by Liverpool and Arsenal. Malacia was cheap and did alright up til his injury. Hojlund a massive, yet unproven talent. Was available for a lot cheaper earlier that summer. And was also wanted along with Kane. Which is the player ten Hag initially wanted. Same with Casemiro. United chased de Jong that whole summer, because of ten Hag. When it was apparent that he wasn't gonna come, United presented him with the Casemiro option. The season had already started, and we were in desperate need of a CM/CDM. AND he also did fantastic the first season. And it's most likely Ashworth, who wanted Zirkzee at United. Having already been a fan of him when he was at Newcastle.

[@natashasnowden1080]

Don’t think that thumb nail is fair ten hag won 2 trophies which isn’t bad really not the cups we really want but better then nothing!

[@jurajkovac9965]

Carabao cup is nothing. So, only one cup and that was won because the players ignored his usual tactics and even that was almost snatched away from us by onana’s blunder towards the end.

[@Aladdin_Sane59]

going after EtH because Amorim is not delivering is stupid

[@ethans9105]

Fans blaming ETH are sad, if ruben fails and the next manager doesnt do well, is it rubens fault? Shouldnt we be blaming Ragnick instead of ETH? Or Ole seeing as he was before him?... its a never ending blame game if the current crop of manaager and players arent willing to take responsibility

[@riaz9857]

Amorim cant spend much anymore because we've over spent and ten hag was the one who got to spend that, most of the blame lies on the club but ten hag spent money and absolutely ruined the quality of the squad

[@BaronSlayer]

​@@riaz9857this squad can easely finish 5th with a good coach.

[@chich742]

Great stuff. Amorin can blame ETH, ETH can blame Ole, Ole can blame Mourihno, Jose and blame Van Gaal and he can blame Moyes. And all along let’s keep buying season tickets and Merch to keep the Glazers in the money 🤯

[@habitsbraker]

cant blame eth at all, he never got his first choice players or even anyone with a similar profile(ST and DM), he didnt over pay and his players were bought to different system, that he had to change withing 3 games of his first year

[@sanjaydhirwan791]

What do u mean he never got his first choice? Kane and De Jong were almost impossible to get, de jong straight up said he wanted to stay at barca and he is still there, kane was going to be over expensive if we ever got a chance to sign him He got his bunch of players he wanted, the problem is that most of them havent worked out

[@stephenorr2516]

Well, he wanted De Jong and got Casemiro, a completely different type of midfielder at the end of his career. He wanted Harry Kane and got Weghorst on loan and a 20 year old Hojlund.

[@TheCJsamson]

​@@sanjaydhirwan791 "MOST of them haven't worked out"!? That's just hyperbaly, most of the permanent signings under Ten Hag have improved the squad. People forget how bad it was before Ten Hag, that squad was never getting to 3 finals and winning 2 of them

[@devans5118]

Of course you can blame him, Anthony for 80 million ? That was his first choice and he got it a d look how they ended up and same with onana, he got onana after getting rid of de gea which is what HE wanted. Why bother commenting when you have no idea what you’re talking about 😂

[@dco1019]

​@@devans5118look at a 'Anthony welcome to Manchester United' vid and tell me you dont want that guy at united. F the tag, without hindsight check if you want that player...funny those comment sections are also filled with positive united fans

[@ishaantiwari8969]

What a click bait title. EtH had nothing to do with where we are. He did his best with what he had. Tomorrow youll blame amorim because he changed the system and bought different types of players. This logic is just nonsensical.

[@Htheorphanarian]

I knew this channel was stupid but this is another level.

[@danmzungu3427]

I hate that bloody argument. Are we good enough to the champions league group? We wasn’t bad in the champions league it was stupid goalkeeper mistakes that cost us. Otherwise we actually played pretty well.

[@luckythrone893]

We didn’t really play well tho. We lost to Bayern at home and galatasaray at home without any goalkeeping mistakes also if not for onana we couldn’t have won the Copenhagen game. We were on ropes against any side no possession no chances created just playing on the counter without a midfield

[@angelotroseboom1186]

​@@luckythrone893 losing against bayern is not something you should be taking that serious, but the loss against galataserray came with goalkeeping mistakes

[@AJ-nd4nk]

​@@angelotroseboom1186 Makes no difference. United would've been knocked out in the next round. They're not a champions league team anymore.

[@Jza-GZa40k]

I don’t think it was Ten Hag i’m sorry,It’s the Glazers,YET he still won us trophies and played wayyyy better football.

[@azizben6457]

Ten Hag is not negociating the deals. He gives names. Only a nuts would sign a 30 years old man for 60 millions , Mount with his injury record with one single year for 60 millions and Anthony for 90 millions.

[@Chriztefur]

But he’s responsible for letting players go by telling the board they aren’t in his plans. Elanga, Alvaro, etc.

[@azizben6457]

@Chriztefur i agree. But they overuled him for Casemiro , Ugarte and many other players. They have the final decision. Deflecting their responsabilities is dishonest at best. The real crime he commited is Amad treatment. Dont get me wrong he was an awful manager. But he is gone and the glazers desease is still here destroying the club.

[@Chriztefur]

@@azizben6457 ten Hag’s stubbornness caused us a lot of problems. Letting de Gea go and bringing in Onana was a crime. Letting Kovar go was a crime (he’d be by far our best keeper now). Chasing injury riddled Mason Mount for £50m at any cost because he saw him play for Vitesse once was a crime. Antony for that fee was a crime. You can blame the scouting and negotiations, fine. But he vetoed deals for Mount, Antony, etc. Him trying to replicate his Ajax side has set us back 2-3 years. Him experimenting with Rashford/Garnacho on the right wing for 3 months when we had Amad waiting on the bench was ludicrous. Not all the problem, but definitely a part of it.

[@azizben6457]

@@Chriztefur i agree mate. I am saying in a football club like united you have a hierarchy and process to do things. He couldn't do all this signings without Joe Glazer approval. Th is gone we are still 13th and we are not backing a manager we paid 30 millions euros to get ( between the sack and Ra clause). I am questioning the title of the video now. The only reason i see is to take the heat from the glazers. Because Ratcliff had been find out now as a glazer puppet.

[@giorgiob8464]

I'm convinced both Casemiro and Mount were glazer signings. And Ten Hag didn;t get his first choices. He wanted DeJong, Gakpo, Timber. Got none of them. Even Antony was a panic deal.

[@sephiroth4543]

"Amorim must hate Ten Hag" like Amorim hasn't been 10 times worse with the same players. That excuse doesn't wash.

[@ufcmma4397]

We’ve had this rhetoric for over a decade. Jose blame game on LVG. Ole brought in to clear up Jose’s toxicity, Ragnick and ETH were real football experts and not just ‘vibes’ like ole, now Amorim is the expert and should be pissed at ETH. Maybe if the glazers had appointed a qualified sporting director when SAF retired and not let a banker play football manager with our club

[@waynereid9471]

1 x 3rd place plus x 2 domestic cups in 2 seasons Yep all his fault

[@SyndiHD]

His talent ID was shocking

[@sgoredraw1455]

1 x 3rd place plus x 3 domestic finals with 2 domestic cups in 2 seasons

[@tman4727]

2 things can be true at the same time..he did well with the tools he had but his talent identification was awful

[@Qba888888]

@@SyndiHD we were paying 80 millions for Maguire's and 50 for Fred's long before ETH was our coach.

[@Qba888888]

@@SyndiHD Let's see how our season goes without Licha who was his 1st choice signing when he came to our club.

[@daveclarke6481]

The Owners are responsible, nobody else. Not the managers, not the players and not the fans.

[@newhappiness4410]

So glad the comments and chat is of an intelligent level and no trolls. Just lads and gals having a mature discussion how bad a state our club is in. Love ❤to all non toxic United fans

[@Fallguy-n1g]

Why is it that the only person talking any sense and showing any positivity about United is a Liverpool fan, Laurence McKenna??.

[@DaedricRiggs]

With titles like this, so Amorim will blame ten hag, ten hag will blame ole, ole will blame mourinho etc ...

[@fathi573]

Ten Hag got a squad of players that had finished in 2nd and 3rd under Ole. He got rid of most of these players and replaced them with players from his agency or who played in the Netherlands, and are quite clearly not good enough.

[@Qba888888]

@@fathi573 lol Ten Hag inherited squad that finished 8th

[@sukhvirmohem5390]

@@fathi573this all the players he signed were from the same agency what a disgrace. This is the worst United squad of all time and it’s all pretty much players he brought in so he deserves all the blame alongside the directors who approved his signings

[@navornever]

​@@sukhvirmohem5390Of the players 'he' bought, Antony has been an outright flop, Hojlund and Zirkzee while young and showing glimpses are also possibly flops, Mount has been injured which isn't his fault. I think the rest have been good long term signings. Not sure what all the whining is about, it's the boards fault for approving those flop transfers, not his for suggesting them.

[@bikesnippets]

Stop blaming Ten Hag. The rot was there long before him, yet he got two trophies and 2 European qualifications in 2.5 seasons. Amorim has rocked up and done far worse. Stop blaming Ten Hag for Amorim's weaknesses. He should be playing 4.3.3 and waiting until he has an offseason before trying 3.4.3 with players who aren't good enough to adapt to it. Mainoo does great as a 10, so next match Amorim.has him as a false 9, and then looks depressed when we fail to score!?

[@wtfamiactuallyright1823]

Amorim, is smart enough to not hold Hag responsible, for any of this.

[@flaauws]

Agree with Adam about De Ligt. Licha had been improving when he got injured but earlier in the season was not great. Maguire has been mostly good but still drops clangers from time to time. Yoro is too young to compare (but has looked promising). Mazraoui looked good as one of the CBs as well and I think we'll see him more there now Martinez is out and we have a FB/WB.

[@ademeta1994]

For me Mount signing was the worst out of the lot. Dare I say worse than Antony for £80mil. We gave £50mil + to our direct rivals for a player leaving on a free the following summer, in a position we didn’t need, for an injury prone declining player that his boyhood club didn’t even want to keep anymore. He’s barely played a single memorable game for us and now we can’t afford to sign anyone when we need it most. Absolutely criminal…

[@melchertnowee8443]

Call out the Glazers, medical, recruitment, Murtough, Woodward and Arnold instead of TH. If anything TH reinstalled discipline and developed youth for Amorim to build on.

[@TPH250290]

Exactly. Ten Hag brought through promising youth players while having to oust the players Rangnick had issues with, and gets no credit for winning two trophies in that time.

[@antonwill1656]

The incompetence of them lot upstairs has caused this not TH … We are a shit show and so broken , it’s going to take a miracle to get out of this mess .

[@AnMallach]

We'd be higher in the table than we are now if we'd held onto ETH. Woodward was slammed and rightly so for jumping from LVG to Jose as their styles were completely opposite to each other. Ineos have done exactly the same thing. Is it any wonder Amorim is struggling? Granted ETH seemed oblivious to playing a cdm. Changed for the last 4 or 5 games at the end of last season playing Amrobat and the structure looked way better. Ruud comes in and instantly brings Ugarte into the team. Shape looks way better. The question really is "Is 343 the best system to play in modern football?" Is there enough width or pace in wide areas to get behind teams? Imho its a no. For me I'd be happier with 433 (not 4231). A straight 433 with three workhorses/ballplayers in midfield who can dominate the ball and quick tricky wingers. Plenty of good players in this squad but this system isn't bringing the best out of them. Who identified these CF's tho because they should only be back up/development strikers not our main options

[@triggasoweto6734]

Facts

[@sheedo1999]

very true. We jumped from one style of manager to another. And it always seems the manager has the wrong type of players to play his system. Even if you look at Liverpool you can see how Rodgers, Klopp and Slott have a similar style.

[@AnMallach]

@ The jump from Ole to Ten Hag wasn't too much of a shift. Just the moral of the squad was shot and the big transfers hadn't worked. Bringing back Ronaldo is still the biggest mistake of the post fergie era in my opinion. completely upset the balance of a squad lacking in leaders. We needed leaders to emerge not be overshadowed by a fading light. we are still paying for all these bad decisions. Liverpool definitely have their succession planning in order both in players and management.

[@kevinreece6475]

I don't blame Ten Hag at all. Despite the worst injury crisis ever, he still got us to 3 finals in two years, and won two of them.

[@FordyA29]

Should've waited till Summer to get Amorim, bringing him in after a rough start, knowing he has a completely different formation we barely have the players for and then failing to do any meaningful business in Jan has set him up for disaster. Ruud interim wouldn't have been this bad. Blame the glazers rot but also blame Ineos and muppets that decided to stick with ten hag and then 180 to a completely different kind of manager.

[@craigcorbet]

I’d love a rave night where the whole night is full of music similar to Joe’s seconds long imitation.

[@tompoynton]

Neymar moving to PSG didn’t just ruin him, it completely fucked the entire global transfer market forever

[@MalLyngskor]

INEOS ruined us by appointing Amorim. Think of the money we would have saved if we just kept Ruud till the end of the season. Erik Ten Hag is the only manager that has gotten a tune out of our youth. Hojlund looked like a good prospect under him. Garnacho was arguably the best player we had last season and was our top scorer this season under ETH and hasn't had one since. Mainoo looked so good under Ten Hag very anonymous under Amorim. Collyer and Gore was also introduced to the team by ETH. Amad was probably the only one that ETH missed but Ruud gets the credit for him.

[@BaronSlayer]

The problem with Amad is that he is not consistent. He can play one good game and than have 3 bad games after that. This season he has the same problem of incontinence performance.

[@skoolycool]

EtH isnt making him stick with a formation that doesnt work and he isnt making him change the line up so often that nobody can gain any kind of synchronicity

[@leedavis6000]

3 finals 2 cups over 60 injuries in one season! 16 of them where center backs 19 different partnerships at center of defence. Yet we couldn’t win a league without Keano and city are shit without Rodri. When eth first came he was the manger the ceo the painter and decorator and the bloody plumber aswell. Also had to deal with a lad who would rather play fifa than be at anfield also Ronaldo who does an interview has a United player haha you couldn’t make it up with piers Morgan. And he still won us trophies. Gave debuts to some of our brightest players we have now in mainoo, garnacho, Amad , Toby colyer. Etc etc. let’s got to 8th place finish that season over 60 injuries. You guys honestly telling me Amorim could do better let me remind you we are fighting relegation right now!! Ten Haag had a complete circus around him and he still won trophies!! While the rest of you couldn’t wipe your own backside without mummy’s help.

[@Qba888888]

Yeah don't forget the takeover saga that lasted I don't know like a year. Horrible working environment.

[@kanelfc98]

5:50 I absolutely live for this delusion

[@dominicellis86]

Just to be clear, Martinez hasn't had 2 ACL injuries. The knee problem last season was his MCL and it only took him out for a couple of months and was suffered by someone landing on him awkwardly.

[@darren2959]

Blaming ETH is ridiculous, the whole point of a new football structure is to prevent this type of assembly of a squad and then to back him in the summer spend big then bring in a completely different manager & system, this is on glazers & ineos.

[@mensahmbro7384]

Interesting. Keep blaming Ten Hag when he is not even the current coach. A good coach will put in a system to win games peroid.

[@anouck3156]

United fans are so reactionary. You're the best player / coach in the world one week, and the reason for the club's downfall the next.

[@MicDubTV]

Ten Hag overachieved for the circumstances that he was under. This club is an absolute mess. The likes of which we’ll never even know how bad it truly is. He has blood on his hands for a number of things, but he was only working under the system (or lack thereof) that was above him.

[@SkullSnax]

Glad most United fans are smart enough to see the real problems and not fall for this bullshit. Honestly, to blame Ten Hag for money spent on signings, rather than the Glazers and the people they put in charge and the money they haemorrhaged out of the club. The lack of planning, the lack of competence for years. Or to say that Amorim must hate Ten Hag, like it's Ten Hag's fault that none of the players know how to play a 3-4-3 system, not that the club is too ass backwards to find a manager who would be a better fit for the squad we have.

[@pranaychaturvedi7311]

Y’all missed with this headline bros. Lazy.

[@davidmoss5275]

No it’s not ten hag that got this into this situation it’s the glazers and Woodward i know Woodward gone but the glazers are still here and running this club and why we are in this situation

[@michaelcorleone7598]

Ten Hag won trophies with that awful team. Let’s see if Amorim can do that same 🤔

[@kev_f1395]

Erik finished third in his first season… Third!!! 🥳 As well as winning two cups. That defence was destroyed in his second season. He knew how important Licha was, we’re about to find out now seeing as he has pretty much been the only plaster capable of playing a progressive pass from defence.

[@brianandersen8842]

"All Ten Hags fault." Like he's the one who negotiated transfer fees and salaries. It's all the clubs fault.

[@triggasoweto6734]

Still blaming Ten Hag lads lmao.

[@luisluna2035]

Funny how paddock will point out that utd managers get the blame for things that aren’t their fault and it’s unfair but here they are blaming ten hag for something that isn’t his fault

[@Jemphy]

Yh.. You right.. He actually acknowledged that ultimately the blame is on the owners.. I think he's just frustrated like most of us about everything.. And sometimes you just want to hit anyone just to vent your anger.. But they know it's the owners..

[@vaughanos5350]

I thank ten hag for the trophies he bought, when we went 6 years with out them,we we all saying we need a trophy, he builds a cup winning team, wins 2 in 2 years and we all act like cups are nothing. Lets go another 6 years without a trophy, I bet you will be begging him back. Amorim is probably gonna win the Europa, and that will be down to Ten hag too then, right? Now i will watch the video 😂😂😂😂

[@wheezyfreire3830]

I wish we didn't have a toxic fan base , Ten hagg won us two trophy's how can you not be appreciative of that

[@sadekrahman9598]

He should hate the Glaziers and Ratcliff.

[@TheDega55]

MU fans are so ungrateful, Teg hag brought MU two Trophies with these players, all of them did well at their previous Clubs before joining MU, Amorim does not know a tactical system to manage them properly, At least Teg hag is better than Arsenal coach for 5 years no Trophies

[@smuckman1878]

Most signings united made under ten hag wasn’t even his first choice signings, but our director of football at the time was useless and therefore we end up with the likes of Casemiro and Antony

[@skh8583]

This duo is real reflection of manutd, not taking anything seriously

[@frankbaker7470]

Bit stupid the palace analysis..how was Maguire not at fault for both goals...for the one you're blaming onana..yoro gets easily out muscled and loses the header and maguire only has to position himself Infront of mateta and he wouldn't be able to get to it...thats Sunday league level stuff 🤦‍♂️

[@sacred1827]

Lisandro's previous injury wasn't an ACL. Surprised that was mentioned so many times.

[@andrew13yt]

Joe, Adam......I know you want to put a positive spin on the mess we're in, and sorry to say this but;...Ifs, buts and maybes won't get United into the top four, let alone get us into the latter stages of the Champions League. The Glazers debt is not being paid off Old Trafford is not being repaired Staff are being laid off Match Day Ticket Prices have gone up to £66 (no concessions) The Staff Christmas Party was cancelled Staff Transport to the Cup Final was cancelled Open top parade was cancelled after the FA Cup Final Christmas Bonuses were cut Charity payment to the Ex Players Benevolent Fund was cut Sir Alex's Stipend was cut Robson, Irwin and Coles ambassadorial roles were reduced Stewards bonuses have been cut United signed two 17 year olds and a 20 year old....loaned out 3 first team players including our current highest goal scorer and 5 Academy players, were trying to sell/loan Casemiro, sell Lindelof and Eriksen and were close to selling Garnacho...on top of that Martinez will be out for 8-12 months, Shaw is a liability and Mount is not far behind. How many of our squad are actually bad players? How many of those were bad when they were bought? How many of those were playing well in a different league, in a different country, in a different formation and system that they were familiar with and thrived in? How many of those players played well in the Champions League......how many former United managers had a good record at other clubs? How many of those clubs that United recruited from were well run, didn't have massive debts, didn't have a bad culture within the club and the dressing room? How many of those clubs had players downing tools, conspiring against their managers, leaking information to the Press? How many other clubs had players giving interviews exposing the conditions and lack of investment in the club..or said they were ready for a new challenge? The mess we're in has been 20 years in the Making, this isn't on Ten Haag....it's ALL ON THE GLAZERS....ALL OF IT!!

[@animemadness1171]

ETH wanted different players but didn’t get them. Saying 85 million for Anthony when we were offered Anthony for £40 million and the club didn’t go in and get him until Ajax sold all their players is the problem fans seem to forget. He wanted Gakpo and the club failed to get him too, whilst failing to get sell Maguire, Scott, martial, Sancho, etc. The club were so bad at transfer activity that ETH got 4 or 5 loan players in 2 years and two free players past their best. He had to deal with Ronaldo saga, Greenwood, Sancho, Rashford and his problems. Also a full season with barely any defenders and often midfielders. City lose Rodri and aren’t so good anymore but ETH had like 30+ injuries but it was a played off as an excuse. Lastly, ETH came in under the glazers and had to deal with the takeover saga too…..he was only under INEOS for a few months.

[@WakaiSimba]

this is dumb, united has never had the tradition of blaming the gaffer, this is a recent thing and we have paid for it in blood, matter of fact, the best times were when United just let the gaffer lead, bruv stop, the gaffer isn't the one playing, so how we forgiving the Rashfords who become divas straight out of Academy and start missing stuff coz they were clubbing. Wow

[@Chriztefur]

Amorim for me was sold a pipe dream and lured in with the promise of ultimate backing, but instead he’s been put there as the fall guy because he’s chummy with the media and has a bit of charisma. He should have stuck to his guns and stayed at Sporting where he’d no doubt win trophies and compete in the CL. Instead he’s come into a real mess that no manager could have fixed, and then put in the limelight for any failings. This club has ruined footballers and managers alike for over a decade now. Disgusting

[@loxloxxos5253]

Come on! Ten Hag finished 3rd and won 2 trophies, but with a good system that fits better in the League 4-3-3! Amorim's system will never work in the Premier League. Premier League is not the same as the Portuguese League, high tempo you don't have time to switch from 5 at the back, which it usually is, to attack. We see it time and time again, but you just don't want to see it, too bad.

[@abayomikadara2013]

Ten Hag still better than Amorin . Amorin is like 10 steps down.😁

[@duffmid]

Biggest club in the world, with the largest scouting network in the world. Entire offices full of recruitment and negotiations departments. A history of 20 years of shite transfers under the Glazers... Paddock: "It was just ten Hag playing Football Manager"

[@sheedo1999]

Agree mate. The club is a joke. Always look desperate buying players and end up paying over double. Then when it comes to sales we have to give em away for nothing

[@leecasson9796]

Start having a look at Amorim absolute fruad

[@Tommy-gm7uo]

Snakes these guys are. Saying they are backing him at the time but then slagging him off now and saying that he was shit all along lol

[@frankoswin8209]

We are still looking for a place to put blame on....TH never chose most of the players i that squad...

[@TheUnitedfan93]

Imagine blaming ten Hag for this! This is one of the reasons why we're here. Some 'fans' are so f****** shortsighted, and it's why we have repeated the same mistakes for 10 years. And if it doesn't stop, it will happen to Amorim as well. Our current shit form, proves that it was never on the manager in the first place. Many of us fans learned this after Mourinho, but some, still can't see this!

[@Jonglory80]

All goes back to when Moyes banned the chips

[@royalladin5276]

Antony MVP @ Betis is flying.

[@Khost__]

"Looking like you got Fellani in a head-lock" is the best wordplay I've ever head💀

[@pgc99]

Why can Moyes come in and immediately improve things at Everton with the current players at his disposal, but with Amorim it's 'he needs a rebuild, it will get worse before it gets better, he needs his own players etc.'?

[@benwhite4484]

How you can say ten hag ruined us is ridiculous he won 2 trophies and the walked into the club that was rotten to begin with!!!

[@sheedo1999]

He walked into a club which hadn't won a trophy for 5 years. For a club our size its unacceptable

[@paulstones1451]

I bet you this time next season man u will be in the same position they are in now. You have the wrong owners and manager

[@RANKHUBUMALEPENG]

Eth ruined us we were title contenders before him😂

[@hummertje050]

Ten Hag didn’t got the players he really wanted …

[@MashiatCOD99]

I call bullshit. He got Malacia, Eriksen, De Ligt, Mazraoui, Antony, Onana, Martinez, Hojlund, Mount, who were all his signings. He might be the most backed manager I can think of, not even Pep got this many of his personal choices for signings

[@Qba888888]

@@MashiatCOD99 "not even Pep" tell us when you come back into reality.

[@MashiatCOD99]

@@Qba888888 I’m fully living in reality. Pep hasn’t just been able to point fingers and get whoever he wants a lot of the time. He wanted players like Kane, Jorginho, Van Dijk, Dani Alves etc. at different points but the club couldn’t/wouldn’t sign them. I’m not saying Pep hasn’t been backed, but he never got to just go to Bayern and Barca and sign all his personal choices like Ten Hag did. Are we just going to dismiss the 600-700m ETH spent in 3 summers? And he was effectively the chief scout at that time

[@flaauws]

*Maybe* Dorgu attacking down the left will create spaces and opportunities for our forwards *Maybe* Amorim and the coaches can help Hojlund turn things around and start to get goals But what about if one or both of them get injured? Are they going to play every match? Zirkzee has had more impact on games but even if he was on his best ever form he won't score many goals. We have no backup options. Hojlund should never have come in so young as MANCHESTER UNITED's starting striker and clearly it hasn't worked so we needed someone else. Extending Ten Hag and then spending a fortune sacking him - and presumably a golden fuck off for Ashworth as well - looking like awful decisions.

[@marcjoyce765]

This whole myth is boring now. Ten Hag wanted Antony when he was 25m, the Glazers said no, then panicked after first few losses and it was too late to persuade anyone else to join so went back for Antony and Ajax smacked a 200% increase on it because they wouldn't have time to get anyone in

[@marcwilkinson3249]

You know full well united said "who do you want?" "Nope cant have him" ETH: "Anthony works hard and is cheap" also ETH:"you paid how much you morons"

[@southstar66]

Nice click bait. I can't believe anyone stupid enough would think that's true. Each time it's the same shit with different managers.

[@shoppingsolutions7917]

What nonsense is this? Skipping now you all have a new scapegoat.

[@ASERBIANGUY]

Why would amorim hate ten hag? The glazers and ineos are the ones who have destroyed the club

[@JohnWilliams-fk3hb]

Week mentality lads. Not ETH fault every podcast while he was here it was the Glazers . Now it's ETH because Amorim is here. Not having that I'm sorry lads. Talking waft !.

[@mimikatz]

Nothing worse than people who have never played in goal setting rules about what is saveable or not 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@johndirom8999]

Bayindir would have finger-tipped that header over the bar. He's 4 inches taller and looks more lithe/agile. McKola saying he was on his line, he wasn't. Saying he should have caught it; no keeper on earth would have caught that header.

[@muhdhafiz123]

Adam is the collective representation of all Utd fans now. And all of us need a Joe right now

[@declanwestphotographyvideo1995]

The Office style look to the camera at 3:15 from Joe is elite tier

[@lilslaatt8212]

Sad these guys are placing blame on EtH, thought the Paddock was better than most United fan channels when it comes to conversations like this… Over/under 5 weeks they’ll start blaming Amorim anyone?

[@chairsmissing]

Piss take for a video title, ETH didn't set us up to fail. If we're gonna be preaching to the choir amongst our own, then wtf are we doing here.