INEOS To Make Ten Hag Decision! | Man United News

[@FullTimeDevils]

Like this comment if you think Southgate would be another disaster 👍

[@TonyField]

Please no

[@mistazed1170]

I’ll be boycotting them if they go with Southgate. Had enough now

[@thatjohnjones]

Listening to the Athletic's United podcast "Talk Of The Devils" this morning, they said they'd never been able to find any credible evidence that Southgate is a real candidate for the United job. Yet, you continue to focus on him as the likely successor. Who are your sources? Or, is the spectre of Southgate being used to close down discussion on replacing Ten Hag? It is painfully clear that ETH is hopelessly out of his depth, and replacing him as soon as possible is the only sensible decision.

[@vasudev5865]

Yes. Southgate would be take the job is the another disaster

[@vasudev5865]

Allegri is better than tenhag

[@phillipurry]

If we get Southgate we are doomed

[@ABS-dt5sh]

@@phillipurry INEOS have plan with tenhag until preparation for title (2028) while find the right successor for him

[@fitzcorraldo8570]

It’s not going to get much better under ETH. Southgate isn’t much of a manager but we really just need someone to shore up the defence and fix the vibe/identity. Big clubs tend to be vibe/identity based. The players buy into it and the manager gives them the tools to express that identity. He can do that much. United were once “school of excellence” Real Madrid “we win the champions league” Barcelona “we play the best football” We’ll get it right. The club is all that matters. Players need to be reminded though.

[@AnnesleyPlaceDub70]

We're doomed as it stands, those fakes on the pitch have no fight no desire no pride but no problem stealing a wage every week.

[@playedout148]

​@miyahtallulah😂

[@christopherwhittaker2620]

Southgate won’t want to go to united. He’s not desperate or stupid. You’d be lucky to get him. How about show some humility united fans. You’re not all that anymore.

[@tmt7405]

If Southgate comes anywhere near my club. Finished

[@ShadyPlatinum777]

No way we get Southgate

[@christopherwhittaker2620]

@@tmt7405 Southgate isn’t desperate. He won’t go to united.

[@Erictheking07]

Southgate No.. No

[@leedemain2592]

F off with southgate, I'd rather have Fred the red in charge.

[@garymcrae1699]

Can't wait for southgate make this shit club even shitier so funny seeing manure fans melt down biggest club in the world more like the the biggest joke in world football

[@d.b.cooper1]

Southgate's not really in the picture bar a few old stories. It's just these guys who bring him up every time ETH shits the bed to scare fans.

[@garymcrae1699]

@@d.b.cooper1 bookie favourite at 2 1 ha ha

[@dhakpanda6708]

Liz Truss would be a better decision than Southgate

[@dhakpanda6708]

​@StephenC-k5o troll

[@stevenconnolly28]

If we get Southgate I'm out

[@alphaumaruturay6104]

Sure

[@christopherwhittaker2620]

@@stevenconnolly28 Southgate won’t go to united. He’s not that desperate or stupid.

[@dodgysmum8340]

No sensible source had named southgate. Stop giving it airtime. 🙏. Ffs.

[@thud1015]

Erikson's comments after Twente game tell a story about the attitude and enthusiasm of players "Twente just wanted it more".

[@impiraja7899]

That jacket looks nice and warm Jay

[@FullTimeDevils]

Every cloud.

[@jayabreezy1256]

@@FullTimeDevils What coat is that mate, i need a new winter coat more than we need a new manager and OWNERS.

[@d.b.cooper1]

Those jackets always take me back to being a kid at school, don't see many grown men wearing those ngl lol

[@dhakpanda6708]

dude is basically indoors once that hoods up

[@v0n1b0]

For crying out loud, what do you wear in winter when it's actually cold? 🥶

[@ezequick8789]

i hear some fans say let`s get beaten three games so that ETH can leave and i ask myself are they really MAN UNITED FANS??

[@punchpaint7]

Shocking how divided we’ve become and who do you bring in to solve this every 3 year problem? They have no answers

[@faradayfelix]

​@StephenC-k5o You don't wish for your team to lose. That's the antithesis of 'support'. How can anybody reconcile that?

[@hooksx]

There is no EtH PR machine.​@StephenC-k5o

[@dessertstorm7476]

@@punchpaint7 its a mistake to think of it as an every 3 year problem. in reality we should have got rid of ETH after 3 months, same with Ole and some of the others. This will keep going until we find the right one and the less time we spend on msitakes the better.

[@buzzmjolnir]

Any manager brave enough to take the Utd job after seeing the way Moyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho, Ole and Ragnick were treated by the players, the board, the fans and the media deserves the time and backing to get it right. This ground hog day of every manager getting sacked after 2 seasons because they haven't delivered Ferguson levels of success is pathetic. What a spoilt rotten fanbase we've turned in to. People need to grow a spine and show some patience. Sorry to say it, but that includes you Jay.

[@XBludclahtX]

I blame Toxic and Entitled United fans who DEMAND results cuz UNITED! This has been going on since Fergie left. When fans get restless and leadership thinks scapegoating is a way to keep people engaged and the hope alive and thus Sacking the manager is the easiest and quickest resolution. And look where we are. Look at yourselves as fans and how you react to tough times. I’m sure you have gotten your way in the past with wanting a sack. How’d that work out in the end?

[@ABS-dt5sh]

INEOS have plan with tenhag until preparation for title (2028) while find the right successor for him, at least tenhag is safe until the end of this season

[@Beginstheman]

I hate that kind of usual excuse. If the Man Utd fanbase is spoiled rotten, then what are the fanbases at Real Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern Munich look like when sacking managers is part of their DNA? A Bayern Munich manager can now get sacked for just winning the Bundesliga while sucking in Europe. The real answer is that those other fanbases have accepted to get rid of the old notion that the manager is a central figure at any club in 2024. The real central figures are people like Berrada, Ashworth and Wilcox because that is how top football clubs work nowadays. The "manager" is and should be nothing more than a head coach nowadays, easily expendable when that person doesn't deliver the goods with the players who are brought in for him by the people above.

[@buzzmjolnir]

​@@Beginstheman If "the real central figures are people like Berrada, Ashworth and Wilcox", why don't clubs sack the CEOs, Sporting Directors and Technical Directors as often as they sack managers or head coaches? If "other fanbases have accepted to get rid of the old notion that the manager is a central figure at any club in 2024" why do they sack their managers when results are bad? If the manager isn't a central figure when it come to results, how will sacking him make any difference? You've just completely contradicted yourself.

[@johnjordan6736]

🤡

[@UltimatePokeGamer7]

How do people not realise that Ruud has a say in the decisions Ten Hag makes? Just keep Ten Hag and let him wither the storm. We can judge him at the end of the season.

[@ShadyPlatinum777]

It all depends on the next few games. If they feel his lost the dressing room then they’ll have to make a decision. I don’t like it but unfortunately that’s football.

[@kevmacfish]

Some of these players who have been with united for years can and and do put in a three out of ten performances on a regular basis could a new manager stop this I doubt it

[@hooksx]

Marcus Rashford absolutely sucks.

[@DannyChean]

I am quite neutral to the manager decision, but INEOS has to do something, and does something quickly enough. If they decide to find an interim manager, they need to do it now, but in the meantime they need to tell the players that this is also their last chance if they want to have a future at united. We can't sack a manager bring in another one and just let him deal with the same mentality we had seen in the past decade again. The players are not blameless, especially those deadwood players who do not run to create space or close down opposition players. Hold both the manager and the players accountable.

[@ABS-dt5sh]

INEOS have plan with tenhag until preparation for title (2028) while find the right successor for him

[@johnshielmufc]

If Southgate comes in then our banter club era is only just beginning

[@jonprague]

Aston Villa got Monchi in from Sevilla in the summer of 2023, to finalizing their sporting structure. We implemented our sporting structure, finally, after a decade, this summer, with key people not arriving until July, w/ it also being a major tournament summer - meaning its harder to recruit/negotiate for players while also leading to a truncated and disjointed preseason. That said, there has been clear improvement and a visible game model in place - w/ the two pressing centrally - usually the 9 and the 10 - w/ the wingers wide and the 6 and 8 creating a box. Liverpool and Tottenham games are the exception to the season so far. And also totally unacceptable. This, at least to me, can only come down to the players not saddling up, and not showing up. They couldn’t pass, run, or communicate, they were reactionary from the off. As a coach you can put the players in the best positions, you can teach them not to think and you can yell and scream at them until you are blue in the teeth, BUT the one thing a coach can’t do, is make you kick the ball or run. At some point the tether ends. It’s a long term project, three months in from the start. All that money spent before hand is irrelevant.

[@ABS-dt5sh]

INEOS have plan with tenhag until preparation for title (2028) while find the right successor for him, at least tenhag is safe until the end of this season

[@michaelkent6121]

Villa used to be 6 points for us virtually every season, now it’s supposedly one of the toughest games. How low we have sunk.

[@Johndoe-gf7eu]

It was 6 points last season 😂

[@michaelgreen5857]

We've become liverpool from the 90s

[@MichaelWard-kh8yo]

Liverpool 1 premier league trophy in 30+years..........BUT...... the most successful English club in EUROPE.......FACT...your tears 😭 is my substance fcukin love it YNWA 🤣🤣🤣

[@iddyyo8074]

​@@MichaelWard-kh8yo you ever been to anfield?

[@michaelgreen5857]

Bit odd a liverpool fan watching utd stand

[@MichaelWard-kh8yo]

@@michaelgreen5857 bit ODD ask the whole of the Premier league SUPPORTERS if it's ODD watching Manchester united falling apart it's not ODD it's fcukin beautiful YNWA 🤣

[@michaelgreen5857]

@@MichaelWard-kh8yo Tragic

[@mrhussain9008]

Ive been Ten Haag out since we finished bottom of a CL group with Galatasaray and Copenhagen in it. However, Southgate is probably worse. I think theres some manipulation tactics happening though. Offer them something way worse so you believe ehat you have is better. Ineos are very smart. Imagine they said Xabi Alonso is available, 100% of the fanbase would be Ten Haag out.

[@Alski96]

Fair play to you Jay, no matter what the situation, you bring the energy. Keep it up pal. Better days ahead for this great club

[@malcolmodoy2651]

If they sack ETH, the next manager will inherit ETH players Ajax 2.0. That's another rebuild

[@ABS-dt5sh]

Not gonna happened, INEOS have plan with tenhag while find the right successor of Ten hag

[@murphymoe9220]

Whatever..They mixed up the ingredients now either eat it or throw it in the rubbish

[@neilthornton3544]

Best keep ten hag forever then?

[@snorkelofsanity]

Ole's team "always" went one down and came back - that mentality is missing for some reason

[@lukekingsland4813]

Like against Liverpool and City at home?

[@miloveshredding41]

Like when Liverpool thrashed us 5-0 at old trafford? Or when rashford and mctominay stop playing when we lost 4-1 vs Watford in ole last game in charge?

[@d.b.cooper1]

OLE actually had a wider philosophy & some level of clout in the dressing room to get through to players. ETH does stupid shit his own backroom staff don't understand, we've had enough leaks to know no one likes his style, tactics or even his endless hours of presentations/video footage, where if anything he just exposes how lost/confused he is to player.

[@snorkelofsanity]

@@miloveshredding41 I'm not at all calling for Ole back but it seems to suggest that there is something lacking - something which ETH had in his first season (all the wins at OT etc).

[@ryanpitt8671]

Don’t go on like that’s a good thing having to concede to start playing is another mental issue.

[@justamanwithanopinion]

It's easy to think sacking Ten Hag would be the answer. But it wouldn't be.

[@manchesterunited9576]

Its definitely a part of the answer

[@jh4892]

The average utd fan IQ is so low. Honestly, it's hilarious to witness as a supporter of another team 😂😂😂

[@CruiseHouse]

"Nothing left to change other than the manager" - because surely all the changes you mentioned have an IMMEDIATE impact after years of horrible club management

[@mattierep]

Ok, change for who? Jose couldn’t do it. Ole couldn’t, van gaal, Moyes…. So who comes in and works magic? Let’s stick with EtH for now and put some of this blame on the players. They’re the ones on the pitch not scoring and conceding. SIR ALEX won the league with a piss poor team in his last season. We ain’t getting another Fergie!

[@CruiseHouse]

@@mattierep I agree with you. I think you might have misinterpreted what I said 😜. I was disagreeing with what was said in the video

[@ewokYT117]

We're not playing Fifa 24/25 here. United were a joke before Moyes EtH and we'll be a joke after him. Let's put things into perspective.. SAF's last season was 12/13. 12 seasons later and After Moyes, Giggs, Van Gall, Morinho, Solksjear, Carrick, Rangick and ETH.. MUFC still have No identity. Counting interim and full time managers combined, that's 8 different managers, since SAF to this year. At this point, not even Klipp Klopp or Mr.Gaurdiola could help this team.

[@martingonzalez2850]

@@ewokYT117 I bet they would.

[@faradayfelix]

It's unfathomable how quickly opinions change. It wasn't that long ago when the opinion was not to employ an already recognised and successful manager, because United has already done this in Van Gaal and Mourinho and failed, instead to look at newly emerging managers. Now its "We need a successful, experienced manager who's used to handling a big club". Which is it? Because, it can't be both.

[@ABS-dt5sh]

INEOS have plan with tenhag until preparation for title (2028) while find the right successor for him

[@faradayfelix]

@@ABS-dt5sh It's as if nobody knows what anybody wants. It's understandable that (particularly) early into the season that bad results can sway opinion, despite early games can create a false standing on positions, depending who's playing who, but if it is decided that ETH goes, it'll be another 'rinse/repeat' event that leads to squad upheaval due to a new managers preferred players. This also would negate the confidence supporters have in the new Ineos regime. There's something badly amiss with the team, because a player on £350k/wk shouldn't need to be coached in how to kick a ball six yards, something I've witnessed on numerous occasions. SAF would have had an absolute field day with this bunch.

[@ABS-dt5sh]

@@faradayfelix thats the challenge, tenhag have to stick with the remaining old Wood while the time goes up. I wanna see all new faces when tenhag gone. Meanwhile Still a long time

[@ABS-dt5sh]

@@faradayfelix first season garnacho time while still have lot old Players, second mainoo he carried us, now is Amad zirkzee hojlund and yoro, this season is getting more of a youngster in squad, It's not strange if the progress seems to be decreasing, now is his first season with almost full of his and youngster players

[@faradayfelix]

@@ABS-dt5sh Despite what happening currently, I'm still positive about how the club is going about the younger signings. The U18's looking good and a semblance of the class of '92 is emerging. We just need to see better attitudes on the pitch and convert the plethora of goal chances into goals and hopefully points.

[@christophermccaughran3253]

It’s only because of his relationship with Ashworth that people are putting 2 + 2 together getting 5. It won’t be Southgate. ETH will be backed and given more time by Ineos. But he needs better from the Villa and Porto games.

[@johncarberry6579]

I’ve never liked it when a club just hires and fires managers, even during the Fergie era when other clubs have done it, I always found it odd because how are a team supposed to steady if you don’t give a manager time. We gave Fergie 3 1/2 seasons (6 1/2 before he won the league) before he could do anything, Ten Hag has won us some silverware. I know it sounds completely mad because things are shit, but we’ve already experimented with hiring and firing managers, but, unfortunately, we need to watch a lot of shit games before things get better… …or just continue the cycle of hiring and firing managers 🤷

[@jamescunningham1774]

First 2 minutes, Rashford znd Garnacho basically leave the same ball for Van de Ven to simply rampage straight hhrough virtually the whole team unchalldnged while Dalot lets Johnson run freely off him lazily assuming VdV won't get a cross in. That's not coaching. That's unprofessional, complacent players.

[@mohamedomer6420]

The changes from top down that happened over the summer need time to come into effect. We cannot measure that effect by every time we get lose a game. Yes he's been here three years but he's still adapting and working with the recent changes. It sounds bizarre but give him time under these current changes.

[@andrewmashigo]

No one is asking for a rash Ten Hag sacking. And this is not a lack of patience. We are okay waiting for things to change, if we can see something developing. There's a way to lose and theres a way to lose. If you lose a game by 3 goals but we can see the players working hard, doing there best, and having shots at goal etc, and then we see the manager on the touch line really impacting the way the game is going by making key decisions, and also playing your best team playing together consistently, then supporters can be patient, even in the pain of the process. But it looks like there is a lack of cohesion within that squad. If we sack the manager now, we will definitely have to have a proper mindset change by players and coaches, and the board too. Sad times for Man Utd

[@RayWint-od9uj]

Its the players that need sacking not ETH some of them have no intention of playing the way he wants. There is something toxic in that dressing room and I believe theres no point changing the manager.

[@GFOE1978]

I didnt see the manager misplace one pass...

[@ThomasCumberton]

Don’t no if a new manager will make any difference Eth has no game plan and the players are a disgrace look like a champship side

[@robertanderson6841]

Still think he needs backed… we need players to realize performances like that mean punishments to them, not managers getting sacked…

[@MrMonkey-o5j]

If Southgate appointed, I'd be done with watching United.

[@petlanduk2709]

Let’s be honest here, Southgate would be an absolute Disaster. We think we have problems with ETH. I think that we can still turn this around. The players will be hurting. Please not Southgate..

[@SidtheWhistle]

Morning, Jay. That was some tripe yesterday.

[@FullTimeDevils]

Morning. Tripe is a word for it.

[@PetterStoners]

I am so tired of reading simple minded fans blame the manager with the same arguments about money spent and time in charge. The money spent can just as well work against the manager. It creates pressure on him and we know the recruitment team before Ineos spent money poorly. One of the first things rumoured to be said from Sir Jim to the previous directors in charge for recruitment was: "Why did you spend 70M euros on Casemiro?" The age and transfer fees don't add up. Clearly Ineos have done things differently with younger players, lower wages and has now asked for patience. Why can't fans and the media show some patience? Because they're simple minded or looking for attention. Clicks and views. What generates more? Succesful United or struggling United? We all know the answer. This is ten Hag's first 6 league games with the new structure. There are margins that go against United that could make the picture look abit softer. Like the least impactful offside we've ever seen vs Brighton. Scoring vs Palace wouldn't be too much to ask for. Players could've picked up some better stats by just a little more quality vs Fulham and Liverpool f,ex. so could've easily been 5 more points if Brighton and Palace were won by those small margins that were there. There's been alot of changes to the team as we started the season with alot of new players and some injuries. One thing is certain for me. I do not demand United to challenge for the title this year. Just want to see these new players come in and integrate well to the team. Luke Shaw and Malacia needs to get back so we can have a natural LB that can cross the ball into the box to feed our strikers and let Rashford take up positions closer to the goal instead of staying out wide to create..

[@michaelgreen5857]

He plays the same formation,the same way every week.

[@PetterStoners]

@@michaelgreen5857 started the season without a striker. Zirkzee have since come in and the lack of quality on his finishing has cost us. Looked decent at the start of the season with Mount and Bruno leading the front press but lacked goals and box presence so a striker was needed. So no. It hasn't been the same formation every week.

[@Bourneman89]

If you still have a team that seems lile they don't know what they are doing, you have to be questioned as a coach. For three years? Young new coaches created some type of identity in a few games. Stop this.

[@PetterStoners]

@@Bourneman89 three years? this is his third year. 6 league games in...

[@PetterStoners]

@@Bourneman89 first 6 games under the new structure!

[@banditbaker1675]

The only thing worse than the performance against Spurs and the prospect of EtH getting sacked would be Blandegate replacing him! If Ineos do decide to replace EtH then Van is the man👍👍

[@manchesterunited9576]

why do you guys keep putting southgate in the thumbnail when there's no links whatsoever?

[@Stegibbon]

I downloaded a steam workshop plug in on football manager so I can do a save with Stretford Paddock. I open it today and it says "Man United sack Ten Hag" and "Van Nistelrooij wants united job". Nothing to say on it, just a weird reflection of what's actually happening.

[@NeilAndrews-f2w]

Give rudd a go , Keane number 2 ,no team in the prem are scared to come to old Trafford now ,sorry ten hag has to be blamed for this shambles ,got to go,kane and rice should have been signed,they had the chance,two players they needed badly...

[@Mike-zx1kx]

Thomas Frank! If you want to be a winner, hire a winner!

[@JD-ez6yy]

For me. I think we should keep Ten Hag. How many times have we seen this cycle now, players not running, working hard enough, players looking like they are uncoached and unsure of their roles, getting the basics wrong. Every manager this happens. I admit I was optimistic at the start if the season even after a few poor results. Things looked to be improving. But it is just the same old. I don't know what the answer is. But is a new manager the answer now? Who did we get? There's no one out there that I think is better than Ten Hag. Southgate. For me that would be the worse thing we could do. Ruud? That one ok. But even then he is still part of this coaching staff which is, in part responsible for these results. Tuchel? He isn't a long term manager so no for me. Ole? I still feel we played some of the best football under Ole and would loved to see him get a chance with the way Ineos have set up. For me payers like Rashford. Who can be a world beater some games and Sunday league the next game. I do feel is attitude can be off sometimes too. Why we didn't get Toney in the summer to help with our goal scoring. Take some pressure off Hojlund and Zirkzee.

[@timwright4676]

Parka, hood up - love it!

[@joshuakaumba6273]

Remember we suspossed to be wining the league in 2028😭😭😭

[@ABS-dt5sh]

INEOS have plan with tenhag until preparation for title (2028) while find the right successor for him. That is quite realistic, do you want it now? Next seasons? Be patient!

[@gemcommunityorg]

I told everyone that ruud was the new manager when we signed him,I just didn't expect 7 hag to mess up, sooooo quickly🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣🤭

[@bigron7009]

We just need to change the formation, set up and team shape. Team can just walk through us. Stop playing a 10 that is higher up than the striker. It keeps leaving holes in midfield. Stop the LB from playing as an inverted full back (& extra midfielder). So much space is left behind him...Teams exploit it. its crazy how no one can see it. Get more players behind the ball...we have too many players in front of it. We had the same issue with Ole (424 is killing us). Changing players but have the same problems...its a system issue

[@mauriceobrien4847]

Scott McTominay had a great all-action game as an attacking midfielder for Napoli last night and made one of the two goals. Just saying!

[@yass8849]

Every Man Utd fan knows that the result on Sunday and the mid week result is not progress. The season looks over already. It's a big step for Van Nistlerooy to become the manager with very little experience.

[@felis1672]

3 things, No shape, Always out of position, Not quick enough to recover. Ffs a centre half rifles through our team put a great cross across the box and lo and behold no defender, resulting in a tap in. When was the last time we had a good cross and a tap in. I literally can't remember.

[@Ace-wp7ld]

Sack him or keep him im fine with either but it will deteriorate even faster with southgate but i don’t think they will do that. My main question is when will people align their expectations with reality? We aren’t sir alexs united anymore and it will take years to rebuild our squad. We had a decent transfer window but do you think those 5 players took us ahead of the 8th place we were in last season? I dont. Look at last years league finish and which of those teams are we better than over a season? The only one i can see is possibly newcastle but we will see how they do going forward they have a squad that can show more consistency than we do honestly. So 8th is about right and then next summer or in January we bring in more players and try to improve again thats all we can do really.

[@ohheyitskevinc]

I watched a bit of Fred and Amrabat yesterday afternoon playing for Fenerbahce. I know it’s not as good a league, but after seeing them.. I do wonder if it’s the manager who’s the problem. We’ll see in 3 weeks.

[@sadekrahman9598]

Klop, Pep could not turn this sinking ship around with some of these same players who have thrown several managers under the bus.

[@jimwatson7238]

Any other big clubs would have sacked him long ago,

[@mrneveryoumind]

Southgate would be fantastic. Absolutely brilliant. Top Banter.

[@mufcmike7]

58 games since Newcastle Cup win 79 goals. 13th in the league. Conceded 81. This is unacceptable. I know a lot of the people who really really back ETH still don’t want to be seen as wrong, but it happens. Suck it up.

[@MarkSide_]

I can't believe this morning Man United are keeping Ten Hag after that humiliation. In the words of Vito "I can fight for a lost cause but this is bullshit".

[@grahamallan101]

Sick of people talking about how much he’s spent and this is his team now!! I’m sure if the financial restrictions and the prior spending hadn’t hindered us in the transfer market, a lot of these players wouldn’t be at United. Not getting a top striker is killing us!

[@jiggersotoole7823]

Who does Gary Nevile manage?

[@20tiiimes]

The Gary Neville foundation trust

[@flaauws]

I tend to go back to how long Fergie got to build a title-winning side - albeit caveated with the knowledge that managers never get that long these days. But I'm not sure if Fergie's early sides capitulated in the way we've done too many times over the last couple of years. I was a kid in the late 80s: maybe an older red can point to similar performances under Fergie? Surely players would have been too scared to not give everything (although the culture of modern footballers has something to do with the difference between then and now).

[@thebiglebrowski3695]

I told everyone when Ineos got involved and everyone said I was crazy, every single sporting institution that they have gotten involved with has gotten *worse* with them at the helm. Lausanne got relegated, twice. Nice went from regular top 4s to not a single top 4. Team Sky went from the dominant force in cycling to not winning anything. Mercedes won everything and now they don't. They are the kiss of death for sport teams. We were fucked the second they won the bidding war.

[@BruvvaUK]

How the team, squad and style of play can be soooooo poor with all the money spent under ETH blows my mind. That of course is not all down to him but he is a large part of that and sadly as know when things go well its down to the players but when things go bad its mostly the managers fault but I think for once they may be right here.

[@Guttsdoyle]

If we bring in Southgate, personally I won't watch another Utd game until the day he is sacked. If results go bad against Porto/Villa. Bring Ole back to work along side Ruud. Go back to double pivot with Case and Ugarte. Simplify our whole game back to pure counter attacking football and get to the end of the season with some respectability in-tact. In summer find the best possible manager in world football, employed or unemployed and pay them and/or their current club whatever they want to come to Utd.

[@cultofcantona]

I dunno Jay. Southgate is not a club manager. Who would want it? Who can we actually poach from someone else?

[@martingonzalez2850]

There's still plenty to change on the playing side. Rashford, for starters.

[@ZombibmoZ]

For me, if we do sack ETH I don't want Ruud as an interim. Either give him the job or sack him too. If we have him as an interim who's to stop a new guy coming in and not wanting Ruud around?

[@punchpaint7]

sacking ten Hag will also cost us 10mil so kiss your January transfer goodbye if we beat Porto and Villa keep him until after January so we can pick up a left back or striker then you ten Hag outters can have your cake

[@mrgamble3866]

25 mil.

[@Guttsdoyle]

F the Jan window. Stop spending more money good after bad. Wait till we have a manager in place with a defined, established and repeatable style of play them back him to the hilt. We have good football players, at least good enough one's not to be 12th after 6 games. Clearly half of them can't or won't play this managers system.

[@willbowen4488]

Another week of podcasts of Joe Smith going on about how amazing our XG is despite a lack of goals and how ETH should stay....cant waaaaaait...

[@adventurefilmclub2549]

You mean factually looking at the decent performances and underlying metrics and trying to take some positivity from that? Yesterday was abysmal but to just shout sack Ten Hag gets nobody anywhere.

[@chaseclark-m2y]

again..i love football..as an american who played at a high level a long time ago....the way the premier league dumps managers etc is unbelievable. The fans need to stay strong and back the club...the negativity creeps in so quickly. Who else is gonna build and kick the team in the fookin ass?

[@charleseddem7042]

I'm thinking ETH doesn't really understand the aggression of the prem..OGS also said that he wasn't in favour of the aggressive game when he was in charge...that has left us toothless and unfearded..mourinho was an ego problem...VAN GAAL was the only one who took no shit and tried to mould the team in a certain direction..what we need is someone who knows that a certain amount off anger and aggression and never say die attitude is what we need..its the bosses job to get into the players head and wind them up for the game...its clear this doesn't happen

[@Zico73]

Southgate would firstly make us hard to beat which is a start and back to basics.

[@johnbamford2658]

United's main problem at the moment is a lack of athleticism and length, first and foremost in midfield, and secondly in defense. When they lose compactness, they are the easiest team in the league to pass through, run through. Ugarte was meant to be a solution in this regard, but yesterday showed that he is limited in terms of his ability to cover space. Mainoo is a slow midget. De Ligt is good but slow. Why were United able to beat City? Because they remained compact throughout the match. Tottenham are long and athletic and good on the ball, and United were the opposite of compact. This is why Tottenham had their way with them.

[@FabiWann]

Ruud as interim until De Zerbi or Nagelsmann are available. He spent 600 mil pounds, lads! 6-foookin-hundred!

[@felis1672]

Dalot's positional sense is shocking, he needs to remember first and foremost he is a bloody defender

[@iddyyo8074]

He should switch back to RB Maz plays LB for Morocco given Rb is locked down by Hakimi

[@SqueakyWeasel247]

What is the best way for any of us fans (most of us I believe) that DO NOT want Southgate to let the club know with a flood of thousands of messages that his appointment would be unacceptable?

[@FoundationMCR]

It was never this bad under ole

[@carl2072]

I’ve been that done in for ages that it doesn’t anger me anymore

[@alastairwinner]

My issue is a lack of consistency. We saw it last season and there has been no change. This is all down to the manager. There is still no team identity or style of play. ETH is not an inspiring man. The team don't seem to be playing for him or the badge. I would bring Ole back....

[@thecandidman]

Laurie Whitwell has debunked the Southgate bollocks on Talk of the Devils. There's nothing to it

[@sadekrahman9598]

why did we not sell Rashford, and give Bruno a huge new contract? Dalot had an off-game as did De Ligh, Masararawi, and the entire football team suffered a defeat at the hands of Tottenham..

[@DeanHenderson]

Never thought I'd see Han Solo talking Utd

[@SomeRandomBod]

ETH has gone from La Liga’s Don Carlo to Vanarama’s Eddie Palmer in 3yrs & don’t see him changing that back. Better to get his p45 sorted & give Rudy the big office.

[@matthewoconnell330]

So its limp on to the international break and hope the storm settles down after a week and a bit of numbing international fixtures

[@thomasbaxter1371]

Porto and Villa defeats incoming - ten Hag laughs all the way to the bank with £17 mil payout (then collects another big payday after securing another position at a top club) - Southgate steps into the breach - Man Utd struggle to avoid relegation - nuff said.

[@notesfrommateriality7572]

but howson said the metrics showed we were better than us lowly fans realise and we are just to dumb. lmao.

[@notesfrommateriality7572]

oh, and weren't we supposed to wait to judge ten hag until ugarte was here. well wot now?

[@free_gold4467]

Every metric was better under Ole

[@CruiseHouse]

Truth is we looked better this season before this game. Whether you like it or not

[@notesfrommateriality7572]

@@CruiseHouse people like you who said that said it showed we would come good. we haven't people who said we didn't look better said we would remain shit. we remain shit. the actual evidence (not your meme metrics like xg) show that you were wrong. just admit it. you ain't as smart as you think you are. you just don't know ball

[@jimwatson7238]

​@@CruiseHouseDon't know what matches you've been watching.?

[@directorme6669]

I don't think we've ever had a squad as weak and fragile as the current squad! Forget about the red card and even the score line, the whole of first half they were scared...AT HOME!

[@wrightfrosty]

If they’re on the same page someone needs to tell them it’s the wrong page time to turn over

[@Charlie_Alpha_Lima]

I don't care who says what. That was not a failure of tactics or set up. Something has happened between Erik and these players. Again. I had hope that performances like this were a thing of the past. So what happened?

[@callumgrant6036]

one game at a time now. every game is a final. get behind the team and the manager. we should be UNITED not divided fans. UTFR.

[@wrightfrosty]

It’s been one game at a time since he took over only 3 of yesterdays starters were playing when he got here

[@callumgrant6036]

@@wrightfrosty sacking managers have not worked out historically. time to stick with one for at least 3 seasons like we always say we should. give him this season, sack him at the end if not good enough.

[@d.b.cooper1]

@@callumgrant6036 He's alreadly in his 3rd season, we're miless off the top with only 6 games. At this rate by Dec top 4 will be gone. So why keep him after that? Just for the sake of it? You don't pull a miracle overnight. Giving him a full 3rd season would simply just be performative. It would be 2 continuous years of bs. He's lucky he srurvied last year, saved by the sale process.

[@callumgrant6036]

worked out well when we sacked Ole halfway through a season didn't it?

[@ryanpitt8671]

Says Loads about the current crop of candidates when ineos aren’t confident about replacing him

[@Zk-Film]

Can't believe how disappointing Ten Hag has been. Don't see who can get United where they need to be.

[@sadekrahman9598]

Most of the English Media love Southgate.

[@shanefitt]

I'd take Thomas Tuchel

[@ChiefTugboat239]

Everyone recognises United are a team in transition, that its a project. But yet nobody can accept that we arent going to play well and win every week.

[@user-rx2hw8up2j]

Southgate will complete the transition mate, from champs 10 years ago to relegation fodder

[@davidgreenwood5241]

Southgate certainly is the answer with him we’d be back to square one

[@a.v.p7996]

If Southgate arrives. I'll be ready to throw some fists .. that'd be the most horrendous board decision

[@Tyt130]

Bring in Simeone

[@chombobrian4147]

I will rather we get relegated than get southgate as our coach, stop with creating of false narratives all the time we lose a game...

[@ABS-dt5sh]

Nothing wrong with relegated

[@iddyyo8074]

If we get relegated Glazers might do 1 Juve survived and recovered

[@ETH_OUT]

Please please please....INEOS