The Future of Two Wheel Riding Is In Recline!

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Somewhere between a bicycle and a motorcycle the Electrom 1 offers a totally new electric vehicle experience that, equipped with a laid back riding position, is possibly the perfect way to whizz around a city. Ricky Roy went to Vancouver to take a ride and see if this really is the answer to future urban mobility. However, with such a new proposition for a company in its infancy this does not come cheap (drum roll please!) meaning that this motorbike contraption comes in at around $12,500!! As volumes increase and economy of scales allow, we are hopeful to see this number plummet to the single figures!
00:00 Intro
00:40 How does it work?
01:20 Design
02:06 Riders position
04:19 Weight distribution
05:58 Starting and stopping
06:32 Suspension
07:09 Speed
08:26 Controls
09:21 Rider perspective
10:10 Maintenance
10:58 How much?
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@xxwookey
@xxwookey 10 ай бұрын
10:21 "This makes a ton of sense for most city centres" I used to ride a recumbent and actually it was much better in the country than in the city. In the city a conventional bike is better because you can see better (head higher than cars), you can hop up kerbs if need be, and you are a more manouverable. Stopping at junctions on a 'bent is generally harder/less comfortable than on a normal bike. In the country where you have many fewer junctions, and there is less traffic craziness and more wind, the lower drag comes into its own and the disadvantages become unimportant.
@VacuousCat
@VacuousCat 10 ай бұрын
Has to be a really upright bike like the Dutch ride. And the parking issue for long bikes in the city. Unless the city has cargo bike parking spaces, which really only some European cities have but they ride upright bikes.
@electrom_LEV
@electrom_LEV 10 ай бұрын
hi xxwookey, I fully agree with your assessment of conventional recumbents. However, I have to point out that the Electrom is not a conventional recumbent. The electric assist is a game changer when it comes to riding a recumbent in stop-and-go city traffic, and the Electrom cockpit places the rider at eye level with other motorists so they can see and be seen. but yes, the Electrom is also great in the country.
@bugsygoo
@bugsygoo 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. This is going to be as popular as all the other non electric recumbent bikes.
@xxwookey
@xxwookey 10 ай бұрын
@@electrom_LEV Fair enough. And in a city with decent bike infrastructure most of the 'disadvantages' don't really matter. It's places where you have to cycle with the traffic and hop kerbs where a recumbent is less than ideal. I do like that rain-cover for the legs as that removes another disadvantage of 'bents: a very wet groin when it rains :-) And of course the electric counters the fact that they tend to be heavier bikes so it does look fun to ride. I hope you do well with it.
@K1989L
@K1989L 10 ай бұрын
No it doesn't. It makes sense for long distances. Recumbents are awful in a city. If you got more than 30km commute a recumbent is great.
@Unconditionallyloved1
@Unconditionallyloved1 10 ай бұрын
I love how the kickstand balances the bike . That’s awesome for when you just want to take a break and have lunch . Awesome.
@JamesSmith-qs4hx
@JamesSmith-qs4hx 10 ай бұрын
Why don't you buy a picnic table?
@Unconditionallyloved1
@Unconditionallyloved1 10 ай бұрын
@@JamesSmith-qs4hx the bike has a more comfortable seat 😛
@surrey-velo2419
@surrey-velo2419 10 ай бұрын
Well done Fully Charged for showing something a bit left field. I see a few people have mentioned velomobiles in the comments. I have 2 velomobiles, 1 with e-assist and 1 without. They look a lot more cool than the Electrom 1. The longest ride I have done since fitting 250W e-assist to my Strada velomobile last year is 80 miles and I still had half of the removable 36V 19.2Ah battery left when I got home.... so range is comparable with my Corsa-e but I have the option to double my range by carrying an extra battery if I want. Velomobiles are fast and efficient on the flat and downhill (60mph is not impossible if you are brave enough and conditions allow it) but slower than a normal bike uphill due to the extra weight (25Kg or more for non-assisted - my e-assisted Strada is about 40Kg but was over 30Kg without the motor). Adding e-assist makes it faster than a normal bike everywhere and much more comfortable and fun. It has good luggage space but I have a tow bar and trailer for when I need to carry a bit more. It is a true car alternative for many journeys. Velomobiles are very aerodynamic so don't require much power to go far or fast. My non-assisted velomobile has a Cd of 0.08.... considerably better than the 0.219 of the new Tesla model 3.
@surrey-velo2419
@surrey-velo2419 10 ай бұрын
I would suggest searching KZbin for 'Velomobiles Efficiency' and watching the video by Velomobile World to see why velomobiles make sense, either with or without e-assist.
@michaelthomas3646
@michaelthomas3646 10 ай бұрын
all I can see is the Sinclair C5 in the design of this bike, apart from height, length, and stability only having 2 wheels compaired with 3, but the plus side is the battery range in the passed 40 years.
@muhammadmulla5812
@muhammadmulla5812 10 ай бұрын
my thoughts exactly. I came looking for your comment.
@FureyinHD
@FureyinHD 4 ай бұрын
Its the exact same idea, only the engineering is 100x better, as well as the tech available. And the time period too. In the 80s people were more than happy to commute in cars with cheap fuel.
@patrickmckowen2999
@patrickmckowen2999 10 ай бұрын
Looking really nice compared to early versions.. Chains, should be set up with maintenance free belts for that price range. I also always thought it should have a full rain cover option. Cheers
@hudefuk
@hudefuk 10 ай бұрын
Yup. Full rain cover with solar on top.
@matejlieskovsky9625
@matejlieskovsky9625 10 ай бұрын
​@@hudefuk nah, solar adds too much weight.
@ruslbicycle6006
@ruslbicycle6006 9 ай бұрын
A chain is low maintenance, cheaper and more repairable with that much enclosure . Most of chain maintenance is due to dirt exposure.
@patrickmckowen2999
@patrickmckowen2999 9 ай бұрын
@@ruslbicycle6006 I think a properly set up belt is no maintenance. You are right about cost, most manufacturers go to or stay with chains to save cost. Repairable chains are, but a belt on a bike I think if you rode it 10 miles a day, every day for the rest of your life, I doubt it would wearout. Cheers
@azsqa6286
@azsqa6286 7 ай бұрын
I @@ruslbicycle6006 From my limited knowledge belts are lower-maintenance but a bit less efficient than chains.
@punkdigerati
@punkdigerati 10 ай бұрын
So people are rediscovering recumbents and velomobiles are they?
@kenmcclow8963
@kenmcclow8963 10 ай бұрын
It’s a small but growing segment. I have two recumbent trikes, but I have been looking at getting a two wheel for ease of traveling with it
@lukeh3020
@lukeh3020 10 ай бұрын
This is a Sinclair C5. No progress after 50 years.
@jcev39
@jcev39 10 ай бұрын
​@@lukeh3020just shows how far ahead of its time the C5 was!
@lukeh3020
@lukeh3020 10 ай бұрын
@@jcev39 Agreed. Hope they catch on at last. I’d love to have one but wouldn’t want to be the only person in my city with one
@t1n4444
@t1n4444 10 ай бұрын
​@@lukeh3020 😂😂😂😂 Someone has to be the first. Why not you? Stop procrastinating and just get on with it!
@StarBoundFables
@StarBoundFables 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant design, & it was fantastic seeing VanCity in the background Love all those trees, + the water by False Creek. Such a wonderful place to go for a bike ride
@snowstrobe
@snowstrobe 10 ай бұрын
Getting ever closer to what I want. I wonder how this would be registered in the EU and UK? I like that they support right2repair, indicates that they might be a decent company.
@nc3826
@nc3826 10 ай бұрын
that's a point in their favor but shipping costs for parts tend to be costly, especially for any from across the pond....
@thekaxmax
@thekaxmax 10 ай бұрын
@@nc3826 true for any vehicle
@Hepsewind
@Hepsewind 10 ай бұрын
If its under 25kph its a regular electric bike, since it can go over its a pedal electric.
@electrom_LEV
@electrom_LEV 10 ай бұрын
s @@nc3826 a very valid concern, this is part of the reason the Elecrom uses mostly off-the-shelf part that are available locally in most areas.
@snowstrobe
@snowstrobe 10 ай бұрын
@@nc3826 Well they said many parts are 'shop bought'.
@diyathomevn
@diyathomevn 8 ай бұрын
Very impressive. But I think it's great that you own it and don't hide it. That's why you're one of the best! Oh my God, It's amazing what you can achieve. Love everything you did with it. Glad you're back, love the videos Looks really nice compared to the original versions
@horiasantorini8744
@horiasantorini8744 5 ай бұрын
I'm just loving e v e r y t h i n g in this video.............. The electrom vehicle, design, features, look, concept and the professional coolio presentation.. Thinking of geting one!
@patrickmike2524
@patrickmike2524 10 ай бұрын
Dime store looking version of Kaneda's bike. You're gonna have to have flags on that bike so people actually see you.
@coreyjameshaims449
@coreyjameshaims449 10 ай бұрын
Was thinking this is defo' a Kaneda bike vibe 😅 My battery would be flat in 5 mins with the green glowing leds I would be trying to power to look woooooooosh
@Mireaze
@Mireaze 10 ай бұрын
My only question is can I slide it sideways
@t1n4444
@t1n4444 10 ай бұрын
​@@Mireaze Well, why not take a test drive/ride and find out for yourself instead of posing daft questions? Use some gumption lad!!!
@Pottery4Life
@Pottery4Life 10 ай бұрын
Neat. Though as a tricycle I think it would be a lot easier and more fun to use. Yes - mass hit, range reduction yada yada.
@JohnR31415
@JohnR31415 10 ай бұрын
Not that much of a hit… I reckon my velo is lighter than that… probably more efficient too
@martineyles
@martineyles 10 ай бұрын
It was done years ago in the Sinclair C5, and yes, I think 3 wheels was better. The main advantage of this bike is the extra luggage space.
@JohnR31415
@JohnR31415 10 ай бұрын
@@martineyles smaller - but more square - than a velo, which is completely enclosed (if I put the roof on)
@Kimoto504
@Kimoto504 10 ай бұрын
I'd say it's a "both, and" thing. A trike would be a great idea. The bike is a great idea. Doing both would be good. The low center of gravity means it would be pretty stable with two wheels in the back, the axle near the seat. I've built a chopper trike with a similar seat height as this and you could keep decent speed in turns. It was about 36 inches, a bit under a meter wide. As a bike rider, it was pretty uneventful when I pushed it to tip onto one rear wheel because it was predictable and easily controlled. This platform has a slightly lower seat than mine, I think, so even better. Even cooler would be a tilting trike but that's tricky on a lot of fronts.
@xxwookey
@xxwookey 10 ай бұрын
@@Kimoto504 There is the Carver machine which is already a tilting e-trike. (no pedals).
@TRYtoHELPyou
@TRYtoHELPyou 10 ай бұрын
Having had a face full of steering wheel before, this looks like it needs a bit more padding at the top of that windshield area.
@ascenttev6022
@ascenttev6022 10 ай бұрын
Would appreciate a fat tire version - awesome concept.🎉🎉
@palemale2501
@palemale2501 10 ай бұрын
A bit like the Sinclair C5 from 40 years ago, except better in every aspect, but only 2 wheels not 3.
@chriswatt2702
@chriswatt2702 10 ай бұрын
12k?? I could make one for about a quarter of the price. 2k for a new donor tadpole. 600 for the motorised crank and 400 for an 11 speed hub and wheel.
@martineyles
@martineyles 10 ай бұрын
Not better in every aspect. I would sooner have 3 wheels than 2.
@philipjones2474
@philipjones2474 10 ай бұрын
​@@chriswatt2702looking forward to seeing your ptototype😅
@Knackebrot
@Knackebrot 9 ай бұрын
I see this as more of a novel way to travel to remote places in the countryside (20-150km). There will be people that do this a lot and for those, thats an awesome EV! Hope it'll sell ;)
@jamesengland7461
@jamesengland7461 10 ай бұрын
At what point did the designer not notice how huge this is?
@gildardo
@gildardo 8 ай бұрын
It could be made shorter, but the design would be more intricate, ei expensive.
@nerdexproject
@nerdexproject 10 ай бұрын
I mean, srsly, this is an amazing vehicle! But I would love it to cover you from (light/moderate) rain. (At least optional.) I hope we see many more bikes like this in the future! Love the concept for sure! :D
@ruslbicycle6006
@ruslbicycle6006 9 ай бұрын
It already does. Unless you are stationary there is only rain on your head
@davidianmusic4869
@davidianmusic4869 10 ай бұрын
Kinda crazy, but it’s the vehicle I need. At times I’m doing 150k a day on my bike for for work, regular e-bikes won’t make it. That thing my off grid system could charge in a day. I expect it’s expensive, the Ferrari of e-bikes, but there’s huge capacity for sales of similar and more rugged versions. We need to make byway systems for light mid speed systems like these. And yes Vancouver is gorgeous, I just spent July there. It’s a great clean transport system. Their bus’s have been electric for 60 years.
@benjaminmoogk3531
@benjaminmoogk3531 9 ай бұрын
Fabrizio, good to see you have got this project to the production model. That is seems so obvious to many is a very good sign. I'm certain that other cities in North America will quickly adopt infrastructure that will make this a viable product for many more people.
@velovloger2553
@velovloger2553 10 ай бұрын
Nice video and walk through
@frozenyogurtist
@frozenyogurtist 10 ай бұрын
This is awesome, I've always fancied a recumbent bike and this is a brilliant take on the idea. In my humble opinion of course! :-)
@nebulous962
@nebulous962 10 ай бұрын
maybe not the future of ebikes but maybe the future of motorcycles because with motorcycles the aerodynamics matter more.
@torashuPanda781
@torashuPanda781 9 ай бұрын
It would be easy to add a roof to protect from the rain in this sort of motorcycle. I'd like to see more of those too.
@cedriclynch
@cedriclynch 9 ай бұрын
​@@torashuPanda781I have a recumbent electric motorcycle that I built more than 30 years ago. Since I fitted a modern lithium battery holding about 13KWH it can do about 500 miles/800km on one charge, at 55mph/90km/h. Although in well over 100,000 miles/160,000km I have never made an insurance claim the insurance company (Aviva) has just withdrawn all cover for business use of the vehicle, and I cannot find another insurance company willing to insure it at all.
@xxwookey
@xxwookey 10 ай бұрын
I'm suspecting Ricky has never been on a recumbent before? 8:05 Not sure why he wouldn't trust bicycle tyres in general? I've had much scarier moped tyres than bike tyres, but obviously there is a big quality range in all tyre sizes and it is worth having some better tyres than 'cheapest' at least anywhere where it rains.
@mv80401
@mv80401 10 ай бұрын
The price is okay. Sure, cheaper would be nice but my neighbors just shelled out $8700 for a 30% discounted Yeti e-bike - oh wait, they both bought one. And that's on top of other high end road and MTBs. My friend Nils in Aachen, Germany went car-free for the whole family, investing instead in high end e-transport bikes to move their two kids and a nifty velomobile. Point is: If you can manage not to own a car you have a ton of money left for bike transportation. Just think of the insurance, licensing and repair bills you don't have. And for those instances where you need a car many Germans now use car sharing rentals. I did when I spent a year there but it turned out it was rarely needed.
@ErinJWade
@ErinJWade 10 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the video Ricky! Recumbent trikes and velomobiles (which are usually trikes underneath) have covered a lot of this territory already. No kickstand, aerodynamics addressed, and weather protection available with fairings or full body coverings. Feels like the designer here might be reinventing the wheel.
@electrom_LEV
@electrom_LEV 10 ай бұрын
ErinJWade, I agree that Velomobiles are cool, but most are biased toward light weigh and aerodynamics as the main concerns. When you add electric power, the skinny tires and lightweight parts become less roadworthy. The Electrom has been designed from the ground up to be electric assist and as such is much more roadworthy a velomobile. Additionally, velomobiles are not great in the city as they are hard to see in traffic, and they suffer whenever to road gets rough. A big part of our determination to keep the Electrom on two wheels was the need to maneuver around potholes and other obstructions. On a two-wheel vehicle, the rear wheel follows the front, so it is very easy to steer around obstacles. Three-wheel vehicle drivers have to get three different tires around the obstruction.
@nathanbanks2354
@nathanbanks2354 10 ай бұрын
One of the problems with electric bikes is the 32km/h or 20mph speed limit for most jurisdictions. A good velomobile can overcome that using only human power...unless you have to start and stop all the time.
@sk8board44
@sk8board44 10 ай бұрын
The concept isn't new. But makes lots of sense to have the centre of gravity much lower.
@katanaridingremy
@katanaridingremy 10 ай бұрын
Cool, though I wish electric motorcycles would think more outside the box like this.
@GingerPiston
@GingerPiston 10 ай бұрын
Look up Peraves MonoRacer or the Carver electric trike (and theres an FC episode about the latter)
@THEREALZENFORCE
@THEREALZENFORCE 10 ай бұрын
Buy a 7k Surron Ultra Bee 85kg light EV motorcycle or 6k 2025 KTM Duke 390 or 5k Triumph 400X Scrambler or 6k Suzuki SV 650 (nearly indestructible reliability) over the Electrom1.
@katanaridingremy
@katanaridingremy 10 ай бұрын
@@GingerPiston these are also cool, especially the Carver with the tilt technology. Certainly leans closer to what I had in mind. I mean I think a design like Akira with the range of touring motorcycles.
@katanaridingremy
@katanaridingremy 10 ай бұрын
@@THEREALZENFORCE these are mostly very traditional in design and not impressive. It's cool if you want a tiny bike that doesn't look like an ev or the future, but I want more
@theproffessional9
@theproffessional9 10 ай бұрын
Insane how I was just watching a video about Velo mobiles and this appeared in my notifications.
@RonLWilson
@RonLWilson 10 ай бұрын
Great video!
@em0_tion
@em0_tion 9 ай бұрын
Love to see more and more brands supporting our "Right to repair"! 💪🙏
@shawing
@shawing 10 ай бұрын
So someone watched Akira one too many times and decided to make a bicycle? 🤣 Jokes aside its interesting but i dont really get it. Why do i need a streamlined bike when most bike trips are for local running around, say less than 10 miles. Not sure weight/lean angle matters that much when you are stationary, and thats only an issue when stationary seemed like a little odd comparison made to a motorcycle. Oh and the idea that theyd ever get this down to a price thats "single figures" as you suggest in the vid description like $9 or less sounds ridiculous to me 🤣
@markthomasson5077
@markthomasson5077 10 ай бұрын
He didn’t properly explain the transmission, it is very clever. There is a low direct drive, but as soon as you get a bit of speed you are pedalling a generator.
@Dragonx7100
@Dragonx7100 9 ай бұрын
Love the concept though and the reporting was spot on
@templeofleila
@templeofleila 10 ай бұрын
Every recumbent designer needs to incorporate the center hub steering from the Honda elf.. Forks are so 20th century
@JohnReiher
@JohnReiher 10 ай бұрын
I see why Ricky was hesitant in saying how much it is. $12,500! My Tern FSD Cargo Bike only ran $4,400. Yikes!
@THEREALZENFORCE
@THEREALZENFORCE 10 ай бұрын
A used Honda Rebel 500 is 3k
@mrmawson2438
@mrmawson2438 10 ай бұрын
That looks bloody great
@cartmanrlsusall
@cartmanrlsusall 9 ай бұрын
It's all fun and games until a minor collision shoves you forward and that odd fairing cuts your head off😂
@EdLrandom
@EdLrandom 10 ай бұрын
Can it not be shorter, yes I'm spoiled by my EUC having a wheelbase of 0 and being able to turn in place but I can't imagine this being as maneuverable as a bike. I would like it as a long-distance motorcycle if it had more power being so aero makes sence on the highway.
@thekaxmax
@thekaxmax 10 ай бұрын
that is what it's designed for, yes.
@Grant.G.Simpson
@Grant.G.Simpson 10 ай бұрын
i think the Sinclair C5 was 40 years too early....someone needs to bring that back from the dead, especially with battery /motor tech nowadays.
@dodgygoose3054
@dodgygoose3054 10 ай бұрын
WOW!!!! Akira here we come
@Dragoninja833
@Dragoninja833 9 ай бұрын
This is the direction e-motorcycles need to go. Too cool.
@accidentalactor9306
@accidentalactor9306 10 ай бұрын
Oh please ..... I'm old enough to remember when everyone was going to be riding around in Sinclair C5's 😂😂😂
@TassieEV
@TassieEV 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Ricky!! Vancouver is definitely an amazing city although I prefer Victoria just across the way via the ferry but what an amazing bike or is it e-bike.
@billd5332
@billd5332 10 ай бұрын
I keep looking at this and two issues come to me that could be addressed. Long wide V handlebars like my Burley Koosah would reduce cost, make steering very easy, and reduce fatigue. Some safety modification to the fairing in case of a crash.
@nebulous962
@nebulous962 10 ай бұрын
4:53 i assuming that you are comparing this to like 1000cc motorcycle and i think that's kinda poor example. i think this is much more comparable to like 50cc motorcycle and those weight around 50-100kg maybe.
@jeangreenfield5993
@jeangreenfield5993 10 ай бұрын
Interesting. Quite cargo bike-like 😊 with very useful electric batteries 🔋 😀
@Anomalous-Plant
@Anomalous-Plant 4 ай бұрын
Love it!
@marsrover001
@marsrover001 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely fantastic long haul bike.
@mv80401
@mv80401 10 ай бұрын
This would be perfect for touring remote places like New Zealand where you often go 150km between settlements. Or across North America's plains with its demoralizing head winds.
@adddude7524
@adddude7524 9 ай бұрын
The price isn't even that insane for the stage it is at. Way out of my price range still, but if it starts to compete with other recumbent e-bikes, this will definitely the winner!
@01timegone
@01timegone 10 ай бұрын
I would replace the windshield and trunk lid with Solar Panels to really make it more use full in the Urban Setting!!
@judebrown4103
@judebrown4103 10 ай бұрын
That looks like fun. One thing I didn't see on it was any security features, locks alarms, immobiliser etc. How accessible is it for different body shapes? Is there seat and controls adjustment? Great concept though, I need a recumbent bike for my disabilities, I ride an e-bike on a good day but energy would last longer in a recumbent position. Of course I'd need somewhere to store it and a shed load of cash I expect, haven't looked yet! Cheers Ricky, nice report.👍
@electrom_LEV
@electrom_LEV 10 ай бұрын
the Electrom has an an ignition key and if one wishes one can use the same security devices as a bike/motobike. locks, disk brake locks, alarms, etc.
@judebrown4103
@judebrown4103 10 ай бұрын
@@electrom_LEV thanks, didn't notice it had an ignition key.👍
@dewexdewex
@dewexdewex 10 ай бұрын
What would the fairing do to the rider in a direct front end collision? Would it flip up out of the way before the rider were thrown forwards?
@imaginejl4
@imaginejl4 10 ай бұрын
I disconnected the brake sensor from rear brake so I could engage rear brake stabilising and not interrupt motor power on my ebike, perfect for small speed adjustments...both brakes will always get pulled anyway when more stopping power is required
@Travlinmo
@Travlinmo 10 ай бұрын
I think if I was on a trail and this was coming up on me… I would think a motorcycle was coming up.
@briankavanagh7191
@briankavanagh7191 10 ай бұрын
Looks like Sir Clive Sinclair had it right all those years ago with the C5
@jheyzbondmoto-klista6856
@jheyzbondmoto-klista6856 5 ай бұрын
If I ever win the lottery, I'll get 5 of them!
@rickmoz
@rickmoz 10 ай бұрын
You say electron one I say, Sinclair C5. That man was ahead of his time.
@cedriclynch
@cedriclynch 9 ай бұрын
The Sinclair C5 needs to be updated. The motor control was just an on-off switch, and if you switched on without first pedalling up to a jogging speed you had a very high risk of breaking the transmission. Electronic speed controllers that could limit maximum current to a safe level were just appearing on the market at the time when the C5 was introduced, but they were then too expensive to use in it.
@KuroSanArts
@KuroSanArts 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn't ride that around central London, you need both decent slow speed control and fast getaways in city traffic and this appears to have neither! It's an interesting design, but I think it would be better suited to touring or deliveries in less dense areas. I'd have no problem with taking one of those for a camping weekend somewhere.
@THEREALZENFORCE
@THEREALZENFORCE 10 ай бұрын
In Central London either buy a 7k Surron Ultra Bee 85kg light Ev motorcycle or 6k 2025 KTM Duke 390 or Triumph 400X Scrambler or Suzuki SV 650 (nearly indestructible reliability).
@jamesmurphy9704
@jamesmurphy9704 9 ай бұрын
Slow speed control is a matter of practice - and maybe a bit of refinement of the steering. Fairly clear from the video that he hadn't entirely worked out the boundaries of the bike. Fast getways... that's probably practice too. I doubt an experienced rider would use the stand much - though I'd have to try to be sure. By far the biggest problem in a city is the length, not necessarily so much when riding but when parking - anything longer than a standard upright (bike with trailer, tandem, cargo bike, my speedmachine...) creates challenges as it doesn't as easily fit in bike spaces and that thing is *long*. Actually there are cases when that length maybe a problem navigating gates and things too... one can't alway limbo - but again the same constraints apply to the list of bikes as above.
@1050cc
@1050cc 10 ай бұрын
Great review, Vancouver IS lovely, clearly 😉 I saw a lot of "wobble" fromthe front wheel which suggests that the steering is a bit "light" !??
@bedguru4340
@bedguru4340 10 ай бұрын
Nice bit of innovation
@ulwur
@ulwur 10 ай бұрын
I'd take my Cake Makka every day before this. Faster, safer on a city street (head higher). And its so damn fun to ride.
@Chriss_Workshop
@Chriss_Workshop 10 ай бұрын
I genuinely like the look of the bike and would want to get one. But like most products i see here in the ebike market, i cant seem to find them in the US.
@danielmadar9938
@danielmadar9938 10 ай бұрын
Thank you
@drunkenhobo8020
@drunkenhobo8020 10 ай бұрын
Never a fan of carbon fibre being used for things like this. Sure is lightweight but it's so labour intensive that it's never going to come cheap. Probably goes a long way to explaining the $12,500 price tag.
@Darkmatter321
@Darkmatter321 10 ай бұрын
Congrats to the inventor.
@AlexJurj
@AlexJurj 10 ай бұрын
Wow, amazing, I wish to ride with one
@rp9674
@rp9674 10 ай бұрын
Add an arm lever to the kickstand so you could do a no-feet stop
@MathieuTechMoto
@MathieuTechMoto 7 ай бұрын
Very cool concept, however, electric unicycles are still way ahead in term of simplicity, price and weight, i have a Veteran Sherman-S euc that also have a 200km range with 3600wh battery, top speed up to 80 km/h, weights only 97lbs, it's so small that you can fit in any car trunk (i have a Smart Fortwo), it can fully charge in about two hours and cost about 4000$ US Of course it doesnt have huge trunk or wind protection but its so fun to ride !
@douggray169
@douggray169 10 ай бұрын
Cool video
@Ciderwinder
@Ciderwinder 10 ай бұрын
I look at stuff like this and just think how miserable it would be to ride in the rain.
@electraelpindrai1964
@electraelpindrai1964 10 ай бұрын
I thought about buying one of these, and then learned it costs 10 grand
@marklucas8110
@marklucas8110 9 ай бұрын
One thing I noticed straight away, what happens to the rider in a crash? That windscreen looks like neck height and has potentially nasty consequences in an accident.
@electrom_LEV
@electrom_LEV 9 ай бұрын
Check Rider's Perspective at min 9:30 to see that the dash is a large rounded surface.
@Luddite-vd2ts
@Luddite-vd2ts 10 ай бұрын
I'm Mr Unmaterialistic, normally. But I'm lusting after one of these!
@artboymoy
@artboymoy 10 ай бұрын
Neat. So if you keep pedaling are you recharging the battery at all or is is just used to get more power and speed from the motor?
@KorbenDallas
@KorbenDallas 7 ай бұрын
Yes.
@charangohabsburg1
@charangohabsburg1 7 ай бұрын
Love it and I don't think it is extremely expensive for what it is 👍 but certainly too much to appeal the greater public. Unfortunately, with about 150 pounds / 70 kg it seems to be too heavy to be solely muscle powered uphill (with my non-electrified recumbents and velomobiles I get farther than that per day, up to about 300 km).
@simonpannett8810
@simonpannett8810 10 ай бұрын
Still a bike that does not keep out the weather or offer safety and low speeds look a bit dangerous. Great one you are cruising and longer journeys??
@choddo
@choddo 10 ай бұрын
The C5 is back! Looks very interesting. I wouldn't want to be hitting 60kph in it though.
@cheungs7
@cheungs7 7 ай бұрын
I'd recommend you do a piece on Gogoro in Taiwan and their eScooters and their battery subscription plans and battery swap service.
@Alby_Torino
@Alby_Torino 9 ай бұрын
In the EU this is not considered an e-bike, so you definitely need an insurance and a license plate.
@yodaiam1000
@yodaiam1000 10 ай бұрын
You should have had a cameo with Ryan from Fortnine when comparing it to a motorcycle.
@tommyfred6180
@tommyfred6180 10 ай бұрын
most car users don't see a bike. this thing is never going to be seen and riders are going to die.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 10 ай бұрын
So, it's a Sinclair C5. Flag and pole optional.
@billd5332
@billd5332 10 ай бұрын
I have an old Burley long wheel base recumbant that seems way more stable than what you are showing. I could add a hub motor setup and a fairing pretty easily. The riding position on the Burley is great for me except when climbing big hills without electric assist.
@nc3826
@nc3826 10 ай бұрын
I'm sure you became an expert rider in under 4 hours.... Thanks for such an objective comparison....
@thekaxmax
@thekaxmax 10 ай бұрын
the Burley doesn't have the cargo capacity, and it's higher than this. So your comment about stability can't be correct.
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 10 ай бұрын
Parking it in a city could be very challenging, and you cannot are it indoors out of the weather/ sight of thieves/ out of a paid-for or residents only parking area . In addition, it's far less manoeuvrable than a conventional bike. My view is that this bike would be far more practical outside of city centres and in rural areas. How about them making a foldable version, with a soft, deployable weather cover, for ease of parking, more weather protection and better unattended security?
@AJames-jr8kw
@AJames-jr8kw 10 ай бұрын
Just what is needed for the city. A low bike as long as a car.
@bikecommuter24
@bikecommuter24 10 ай бұрын
So basically a recumbent moped its got some nice tech to it but I think I'll stick to my regular bicycle and e-bike for now. But it might make a nice alternate to buying a regular motorcycle or scooter.
@THEREALZENFORCE
@THEREALZENFORCE 10 ай бұрын
Buy a 7k Surron Ultra Bee 85kg light EV motorcycle or 6k 2025 KTM Duke 390 or 5k Triumph 400X Scrambler or 6k Suzuki SV 650 (nearly indestructible reliability) over the Electrom1.
@fizban119
@fizban119 7 ай бұрын
​@@THEREALZENFORCE I think you're missing that this device's cost per mile is a fraction of a gas vehicle, it's not polluting the air with exhaust that's reducing human life spans and contributing to climate change, it's lighter and easier to move.
@THEREALZENFORCE
@THEREALZENFORCE 6 ай бұрын
@@fizban119 EV motorcycles that cost 2 times less and go further and faster than this expensive EV bicycle vehicule. Surron has these sub 8k EV motorcycles that easily beat this vehicule on price, range, speed from A to B. I have never seen a bicycle beat me on my motorcycle on my daily over 20 kilometers commute to work.
@gmy33
@gmy33 9 ай бұрын
what a beauty
@Strividia
@Strividia 10 ай бұрын
nice akira reference
@nomsi4263
@nomsi4263 10 ай бұрын
More people wanting the Akira bike
@ashtontechhelp
@ashtontechhelp 10 ай бұрын
Looks like it's front-wheel-drive, which would explain the vague steering at low speeds.
@danielsz8222
@danielsz8222 10 ай бұрын
There are so many problems with this. I live in Budapest and I work as a bike delivery man. So I know how biking in cities are like. First: this is huge. The best part in cycling in cities is that it's practical. You can easily fit through very tiny spaces. You can slalom between cars in a traffic jam. You can easily turn it around if you have to and you can park anywhere. This "bike" is just too long and too heavy to do any of these. Especially too long in european cities where there are narrow streets. Second: the aerodynamics just doesnt make sense. I can easily do a 20-25 km/h average speed for a day with a regular bike. With an electric it's an easy 30 even 35. Maybe it's more aerodynamic but it's heavy af and the wheels are too thick and the diameter of theme is too small. You have to add more energy to make a wheel go if it's smaller. Third: it's bigger than a haul bike but it doesn't have the capacity. So a deliveryman cannot use it. So it's too big for cities, i'm pretty sure it almost has the same range and speed as a better ebike. So the only people who could use it are people in the country side who use it once or twice a year for a trip. But it's too expensive for a hobby like this. Honestly I have no idea why would anyone buy this. There much better and more cost effective options for using a bike.
@leonardium8112
@leonardium8112 10 ай бұрын
What the hell, who needs this ?😂
@EdouardTavinor
@EdouardTavinor 10 ай бұрын
I think I'll stick with my velomobile. This looks pretty primitive compared with a quattrovelo, a bülk, or an M9. Recumbents are in general much safer than upright bikes (about 90% of recumbents have three wheels - two wheelers are a rarity).
@kz15666
@kz15666 10 ай бұрын
Interesting concept but i don't see a market for it. as batteries are becoming more powerful, a good "normal" bike with an electric support motor will do the job ,. you don't need the streamline (and this will not keep jou dry either.)
@stopscammingman
@stopscammingman 10 ай бұрын
This is a cleaver design
@tarigrs
@tarigrs 10 ай бұрын
This bike gave me Akira anime vibe
@miketrebert7788
@miketrebert7788 10 ай бұрын
Fascinating. But recumbant will surely never be broadly popular. How many people will feel safe and under control on one of these? Also, visibility is limited way down there. Conventional bicycles have a difficult enough time up as high as they are with reflectors, lights, mirrors, etc. Also, upright bicycles are more nimble and responsive.
@MrJturner74
@MrJturner74 10 ай бұрын
One word comes to mind. KANAAADA!!!!
@phillycheesetake
@phillycheesetake 10 ай бұрын
$12.500, or the price of three fully road-legal electric mopeds. Good thing there's a sucker born every minute.
@Unconditionallyloved1
@Unconditionallyloved1 10 ай бұрын
For sure ! For a little more than half that price I could buy a brand new all the bells and whistles Honda 650 duel sport motorcycle . And I couldn’t even imagine what you could get for that price in another country.
@Foucault2001
@Foucault2001 10 ай бұрын
OK $12,500 won’t get you a Livewire but there’s plenty of choice of mopeds and motorbikes in the $5,000 to $12,500 range. Throw in that electric bikes are even cheaper and all are better suited to city life and it just feels a bit of an expensive niche product.
@fizban119
@fizban119 7 ай бұрын
It's like literally a handbuilt prototype having its production scaled up. Economies of scale reduce price over time, this is a guy in a garage trying to push an industry and the world forward. Give me a break. If you can't afford it you can't afford it.
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