New Geely Galaxy E8: Space Age Tech For £20,000??

Elliot reviews the latest EV from Chinese automotive behemoth, Geely: the Galaxy E8. Offering some staggering, space age tech at a bargain basement price, could this car be a game-changer when it arrives in Europe?
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[@fdjw88]

When foreign brands come to China, the Chinese government only charges a 5% import tax as a WTO member. And yet, when China can make good cars, the foreign nations charge upward of 20% tariffs, in the name of National Security. But what is more annoying is that those same governments do not charge the same amount of tariffs on Japanese and Korean cars.

[@wongrudy1318]

Only pariah practice double standard

[@eden5260]

Don't talk absolute nonsense They protected their own car industry in china with high taxes not 5% and high subsidy to local brands . They didn't let Any foreign company enter china without an equal co-venture with a Chinese company that can steal all the know-how ! And that is all only about this specific industry Literally every big industry in china is protected and blocked foreign competition That's the only reason china has built some big internet companies for example

[@Mikupigeon]

I think 5% is only sales tax rate for 1500-2000 cc ICE cars. Correct me if I am wrong. China tax rates for foreign imported cars: Custom duty 25%, Sales Tax 0-40% depends on engine size and 13% VAT, despite charging 0% sales tax for PURE electric cars, I believe you still have to pay custom duty and VAT. In addition to that, final price of the car you see in showroom does not equal to the sum of these rates, you have to use the formulas for its calculation.

[@GaminGiga]

I was in china last summer, the number of EV on the road is unimaginable, there are tons of tesla and many other domestic brands. It is crazy

[@konstantinrebrov675]

Good for air quality in the cities. Remember Beijing 20 years ago.

[@spydey2k]

Screen obsolete? Software stop working? That's not how any of that works. Go turn on a TV or phone from 10years ago... yes, it's fine. It just need an input. Software may cease to get updated, but it will still perform the functions built into it. Outdated and obsolete aren't the same. If the hardware breaks, it breaks, but it's not just gonna stop working because of time. It can be outdated, and connectivity may get discontinued, but the thought of "throwing it away" after 5 years is dumb. Now the privacy and viability of this product is a different story.

[@CaptainXJ]

He might be thinking of how lots of company's intentionally "brick" older electronics with updates. I literally stopped buying tablets for that reason.

[@sebastiansandvik825]

I'd be more worried about replacement costs. A custom made 48" screen for a specific car model is not going to be cheap to replace, especially if it's not just a screen but a module with all sorts of hardware built in. It only takes an unfortunate bump, or even a few unfortunate dead pixels, to require a swap. If you had two smaller screens and physical buttons the cost would be much lower. Honestly, that could be more expensive to change than the battery.

[@adus123]

@@sebastiansandvik825 If that screen stops working at any point in time. Your car is toast Yes you may be able to replace it but at what cost?

[@logicalChimp]

If it's still running the original software, maybe... but as we've seen with e.g. mobiles, more and more features etc get added over the years as 'free' updates - resulting in first-gen hardware slowing down to the point of being unusable... and not every company provides a way to uninstall those updates, or roll back to an earlier (faster) version, etc.

[@markuc]

​@@logicalChimphopefully with Geely they'll be more into optimisations. Although having owner a number of Huawei devices, their cars should be super efficient and optimised.

[@pa9365]

If this makes it to the UK for £20k I will personally buy one, wear it as a hat and eat it.

[@beermonster1234]

😂

[@JoeyBlogs007]

And it will eat your foolish down the drain.

[@oddjobsandrandomprojects]

@@JoeyBlogs007 Those are all words, just in no particular order.

[@AndrejMejac]

More like north of €40k, with discount.

[@Firecul]

Yeah I hate when journalists do that. Oh it's "equivalent" to £20k. Oh that's nice. Now import it to my country and add all the import fees and taxes and sales taxes and dealer gouging and **then** tell me the price. I've not seen a single vehicle make the trip and still be that price.

[@AlienApe.]

£20k, plus tax on imported cars into the uk - £42k... plus VAT...circa £50k to buy. Why do all cars in the UK cost so much more than in other countries?!

[@harmony3138]

Rip off UK!

[@quintinrafferty7232]

Try Ireland

[@sparky6996]

They want your money...nothing more

[@BryanLeung-sn7co]

Australia is so much friendlier 😢

[@erikslagter3231]

Try Denmark :)

[@TheMasterOv]

Throw it all away in a couple years? What’s he on about 😂 OTA updates will keep it updated, if the screen needs replacing just replace the screen like you would a button/switch on a old car & you can always update the computer in the future if more power is needed for whatever reason… why’s he saying throw it all away in a couple years??

[@AdrianMeredith]

yeah that comment makes no sense, tesla is still somehow doing updates for its intel atom cars which is seriously old tech

[@Stephen-Jones]

Given some people think the batteries are thrown away after 3 years a comment like that is really not smart and encourages the "car no good after a year" lot

[@dougbamford]

I took it to be that you won't be able to get a replacement screen when it breaks if it is bespoke for this model. And the whole car depends on the screen so if it went kaput and couldn't be replaced the car wouldn't work any more.

[@faithosadebe5293]

I wonder why he still review cars.. He should go back to the UK. Get himself a jaguar..

[@faithosadebe5293]

@@dougbamford took whatever nonsense you believe.. All screens in your goddamn european brands are either made in china, korea and japan..

[@matthewlloyd956]

I was in China a couple of weeks back and the variety and quality of the EV's is astounding. I just wish they brought them to Australia

[@metricstormtrooper]

Especially the baojun cloud, I'd love one because it's well designed and not a wannabe SUV.

[@hufjournallife7218]

If can’t do , proton can use it

[@markuc]

Actually Australia is already in a better position than other western nations such as Canada. The reason Teslas are at lowest price outside of China is because we have Chinese EVs competing in the market. Competition is always good for the consumer!

[@TD1237]

@@markuc I noticed that. Even here, South Africa has tons of Chinese cars nowadays (not EV's though, due to the electricity issues). It's a good thing, because they're just so much better made than the European stuff, but way, way less expensive.

[@paulb1951]

@@markucAustralia western? What 😂

[@tomo1168]

"this car is going overseas later this year" later this year in Europe: Geely Galaxy E8 for 40.000 Euros...

[@freddykrueger79]

yeah... Chinese manufacturers milking the ev cow in Europe 😢

[@Ilost11]

@@freddykrueger79 Shipping costs, brokerage fees, operational costs to operate in Europe for sale, service and maintenance, supply chains for parts etc. Most people are clueless and stupid, believing that everything is free. None of that even mentions tariffs the European Union will likely levy on these vehicles which may be the biggest part of the price increase for the consumer. So prices in domestic Chinese markets will for obvious reasons not be equal to European MSRPs. Even Tesla's are cheapest in China (Not the US) where the EV supply chains are hyper-optimized and price competitiveness is king.

[@freddykrueger79]

@@Ilost11 I perfectly understand price must be different... but in some cases it's way too much difference. example byd han in china 28keur... in Europe 73keur... that is almost 300%... at the moment Chinese made cars pay in EU 10% import duty.

[@logicalChimp]

@@freddykrueger79 Chinese tax-rate is ~3% for EVs, I think... compared to ~20%-25% tax in the EU?... and that gets added *on top* of all the other factors listed by ILost11... yes, there's probably some profit-inflation too, but not nearly as much as people think - and the only reason the CHinese companies can do that is because all the legacy Automakers are doing the same thing, in order to discount their prices in China (which is why e.g. the VW ID.4 is ~1/2 price - or less - in China, compared to the EU... and VW don't even have to ship their vehicles in from China - they're made in the EU to begin with)

[@happymelon7129]

@@freddykrueger79 China car NOT allowed to sell cheap in Europe. OR will be ban/tax higher

[@Jannikheu]

The price is unbelievable, even for Chinese standards!

[@SylasXavier]

Remembering that geely its a volvo owner.

[@patreekotime4578]

And Lotus.

[@metricstormtrooper]

And the London taxis co

[@hermesliteratus882]

And they also own 50% of Smart.

[@MaticTheProto]

They also have like 8 brands that haven’t made it to Europe yet

[@cballena5785]

geely even owned benz

[@eezawyrdo3052]

All I took from that was £20,000 and Slippery Grandfather.

[@faithosadebe5293]

So true.. He failed to mention the powerful chip in that car and screen made by Meizu like huawei but belongs to Geely..

[@fullychargedshow]

Those were definitely the key takeaways for us too.

[@PaulineMing]

With regard with your issue regarding the longlivity of the screen my 40 plus years experience with computers and monitors, partcularly with flat screens (OLED, LCD etc) is they are very hard to kill. Honestly they seem to function forever, I have living proof of that with the surplus monitors I have in my home. They are just "too good to throw out".

[@metricstormtrooper]

I've still got a gen 1 iPad, it's nearly useless apart from as an artistic piece but the screen is still fine.

[@Sparky400]

​@@metricstormtrooperI have an iPad air that's still useful but not as useful if apple supported it still. It's has good specs which is a shame. I also have an iPad 3 which I use for a smart home panel. Doesn't need to do much.

[@MrAdopado]

Correct ... I've got several old laptops starting from 1995 ... a flat screen Apple monitor that's 20 years old ... all the screens work as good as they did when new.

[@namefinder]

"Crumpets and... chill" - thanks for the visual...

[@Steven-vo4ee]

Crumpet and old crumpet?

[@Grant.G.Simpson]

sometimes when you see something and think....so simple...why has it not always been like that forever.....tinted perspex sunvisors, does its job without any vision block at all

[@tinkerstrade3553]

I was an over the road trucker in the 70s. You could buy the clip on tinted extended visor. It's an old idea that just went out of style. Maybe somebody out there knows where to find them. I'll buy one again!

[@edwardlloyd1516]

Rover had them in the 1950s

[@keithwest4720]

It's a big screen with a car attached.

[@julianshepherd2038]

Cool. cars are dull

[@amehaiza]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@MrKOenigma]

A wiiiidee screen...

[@DeterminedFC]

i remember when they said this about phones

[@Acemeistre]

It's a knob with a human attached 😂

[@josechong8207]

Thank you, Elliot, for showing us the new Geely Galaxy E8... I thoroughly enjoyed your video presentation. Amazing and fun to watch. And about that screen possibly becoming obsolete in like 5 years or less, you are quite right. We can't change NEVs, the way we change phones every so many years... It'd be quite an expensive proposition.

[@latheofheaven1017]

Speaking as someone whose Hyundai i20 touchscreen has stopped working, I sympathise with the worry about that huge E8 screen. How do you get them fixed?

[@ashtaroth1975]

While everyone its bringing crossovers to the market the chinese still believe on sedans. Love that, hope they bring it to Europe

[@TaranAadarsh]

At least they went and did the screen the way I'd like it. One large, continuous screen unlike the one that Mercedes did where they tried to pass like 3 screens as one by covering them with a long dark glass panel...

[@logicalChimp]

On the flip side, merc screens are each a 'standard' size, and probably a lot cheaper to replace individually than that single behemoth screen.

[@MaticTheProto]

Yeah…. Have fun with regulations regarding media on the passenger display with that

[@jakilode5608]

You'd love the Cadillac escalade iq.... Perhaps not

[@d-zone]

£40k+ when/if it reaches the UK

[@piccalillipit9211]

Yeah you are not allowed nice things. Its part of the Brexit deal, even if its not from the EU you cant have it if its nice. Part of the dikensification of Britain

[@oddjobsandrandomprojects]

Here in the US they just won't allow it if it's good, especially if it is competitively priced.

[@CaptainXJ]

@@oddjobsandrandomprojects That's what I am sitting here thinking, "Never in the US"

[@patreekotime4578]

​@@oddjobsandrandomprojectsYup. It wont come here because of anticompetitive legislation that the Big Three think will protect them from having to actually be competitive. Chinese companies are building factories in Mexico, so now legislators are pushing the same "fear factor" narrative with Chinese EVs they use with Chinese cell phone manufacturers that prevents us from having cheap smart phones in the US. Really its all just American manufacturers shooting themselves in the foot. We had a chance 15 years ago to be the leaders in EVs, but we let China take it. Really just pathetic.

[@truebrit3670]

AFAIK A single shipment has about 4500 cars, and the U.K. applies less than 5% tariff on China. Where would the 100%+ markup be generated?

[@TD1237]

What do you mean "when this screen becomes obsolete"? Elliot, all cars have screens, and huge ones at that. This one isn't going to stop working all of a sudden just because it's wide and futuristic. If you spoke about replacement costs after a serious accident, it would be a different story. But I don't really understand what you're getting at with what you said.

[@Sparky400]

My 9 year old laptop must be a true miracle that it still works let alone is online.

[@MrAdopado]

@@Sparky400 Yep ... all my laptops that I have since the mid 1990s still have perfectly working screens!

[@gmt1]

Yes, if all the settings/controls are only available via the screen what happens 5-10 years later when it breaks? Can it be replaced? Will the UI burn-in? Will the heat warp/crack it?

[@PaulineMing]

Elliot. You did not do the usual sign off. Did not know I had reaced the end of the video until it just stopped. Hope to see you in Sydney next year, hopefully with that lovely car.

[@bob808]

5:55 That's where the aftermarket steps in. You can get CarPlay, for example, for cars built in the 2000's and 2010's. Look at the BMW and Mercedes aftermarket, complete screen replacements with better resolution _and_ more features, while retaining OEM controls. Saying you might have to junk a car in 5-10 years due to screens/software is nonsense.

[@sebastiansandvik825]

It all sounds great... if only I could get that with the Polestar design language, and I'd get one immidiately. Will probably be almost twice as expensive in Europe. The Zeekr 001 for example costs about 35k€ in China and 60k€ in Europe in base spec.

[@marklola12]

Screens are only distracting if you are someone who is easily distracted lol. I have a honda e thats got 2 massive screens, a sepoed screen, 2 screens for the wing mirror cameras and also rear view mirror is a screen Not distracting infact what is more distracting is passengers and talking to them while driving...not screens because you aint looking at them when driving are you lol

[@dna9838]

Are the mirrors on the wings though? Door mirrors?

[@TD1237]

This is so true

[@MrAdopado]

@@dna9838 The Honda E has cameras and mini screens acting as door mirrors ... not actual mirrors.

[@dna9838]

@@MrAdopado good point. Door cameras, but certainly not 'wing', with almost all modern cars.

[@Scuba72Chris]

If this thing goes on sale in the UK for anywhere close to £20k, I'll eat my trousers.

[@georgeeagle872]

Your trousers are safe😂

[@keelferm]

I'm a big fan of how it slips through the air... much more focus needs to be on that

[@weeblewonder]

Sure would be nice if a channel like this could lean on its many years of industry expertise and instead of clickbaiting the price of an exchange rate, instead give us an idea of an estimated UK price based on past trends.

[@Scuba72Chris]

That's easy to do. Just multiply by 2.

[@metricstormtrooper]

Because we all don't come from the UK thankfully.

[@duncanmoore3081]

This is your funniest review EVER Elliott; crumpets, you in the boot, you closing the frunk😂...

[@palokros3752]

This is a beautiful dream. Very pleasant even to look at. I wouldn't feel bored at the back seat.

[@ianwatkins9609]

very interesting, does it have V2G and how’s the regen?

[@gordienj]

How would it be if you needed any repairs, motors, but also body panels too?

[@hyeung1]

A LCD touch screen is just a screen/monitor. When did you last worry about your monitor being obsolete?

[@andrewmullen4003]

looks great I'll have one

[@Gonzie6]

looks amazing not sure if it'll still be that price when it makes it here but I still prefer my mid suv size vehicle, there's not much point having a huge boot when the aperture is so small

[@Scarbir]

Great review. That A-pillar wheel arch line though. 😅

[@euduvda]

Omg that intro sound made me look around thinking a large fly passed by my ears! 😅 Yes, I'm on headphones...

[@Sekir80]

Strange Yello vibes.

[@ialrakis5173]

First thought was: huge, electric Citroen

[@jansenwilder1335]

Brillant E8 under the same group as Volvo,polestar, Zeekr..+ others.. 😊 the Zeekr 007 is the other sedan worth considering 😊

[@shia_labeouf]

Crumpets and chill made me spit my tea out.

[@dazza9360]

Great review, I can’t wait to purchase an EV & a Chinese model will be no doubt what we go for! The only thing I don’t get with the Chinese automakers don’t seem to cater to the useable hatch back vehicles 🚗. Not too sure about the rest of the world but Hatch backs have been the most popular vehicle type for Australia/NZ, other than utes.

[@markuc]

That interior is amazing for any car, let alone one that costs 20k. Great to know Geely is planning to enter Australia market this year!

[@ADudesRotary]

Elliott smashing it out of the funny park😂

[@meloccom]

I’ve just had my central screen replaced on my 9.5 year old Tesla Model S to bring it more up to date. Hopefully Geely will provide the same service.

[@Lewis_Standing]

Excellent work again Elliot 👏 Looks great, i can see some BYD seal in the front and perhaps some MG4 in there too. Love the design and the screen

[@hotoneten4655]

you can always replace the screen in the future. software can be updated over the air

[@highlanderapparel]

Very interesting the Highlander.😊

[@jys160]

I may be old fashioned but I prefer the analogue approach with dial controls. As you say what happens when all these fancy screens go out of date plus they can be too distracting.

[@MrAdopado]

One of the main advantages of a screen is that the interface and controls can be expanded and modified over time. The Tesla user interface has had a number of additions and revisions which add features to the car that didn't exist when I bought it! If the dashboard consisted of fixed switches you wouldn't be able to do this. There's therefore less chance of a screen going "out of date" than a traditional dashboard control layout.

[@ITeachChinese]

That screen that screen ❤

[@johngonon1507]

Hopefully, their software will be updated so that ALL of their models use the same (easier to maintain 1 software for all than 1 per model). I don't see the use for such a big screen. A lot of it is hidden behind the wheel so you'd have to move your head to see.

[@Draigthedragon]

My first thought on that screen was, how much to replace it? Three standard size screens might not impress in the same way, but would be much more sustainable. A very impressive car - Apple could have just paid one of these Chinese manufacturers to produce their car.

[@desobrien7357]

I hope grandad does not go for the sub 3.5 second version. I watched this and for the first time in a while I see a car I want, even with all the potential future unknowns like the screen. (Its like the engine noise in the Ionic 5N, it is childish but I like it.) Have to see it in the flesh. Agreed with everything you said. Thanks Wing Commander ~Richards. DES

[@jonwragg3822]

So this is on the same chassis as the Polestar 4. Would be interesting to see a side by side comparison. £60k vs £40k. Is the Polestar worth it.

[@54mgtf22]

Cool Camry. Thanks Elliott.

[@smeghead6123]

Nice one Elliott, another good video. Saloons do nothing for me. Hatchbacks and estate's are far more practical and in most cases better looking to.

[@iWantPeace838]

Would you be able to do a test drive of the Luxeed S7. It's got a lot of new tech on paper.

[@greaterbayareahero1401]

Wow this is fantastic!

[@nssimpson]

I love it. If it's priced under £40k then it's well worth it.

[@egyresztmasreszt4292]

If it is the same as the EX30, then unfortunately the information panel and the guessing clock are also suffocating

[@bugsygoo]

Love to see a review of the new Xiaomi EV. 😊

[@SantaBJ]

There really should be a requirement for all control interfaces in vehicles meant for public roads to be open source, both hardware and software, and ideally compliant with some set of common standards (again, both hardware and software). That's really the only way you can resolve the issue you mention about the control displays going obsolete before the car does.

[@richardkeane3051]

Sounds promising. This for not much more than £20k. Not sure it will be that but the tech is good!👍🤞

[@pauld7827]

You can add at least 25% to the price if it comes to the UK. Look at the ORA prices elsewhere compared to the UK. I have an MG ZS EV and appreciate the chinese cars, but the depreciation means, I won't be able to change it for a new EV without taking a huge hit. If they can do it for £20,000 then taking the hit is made a bit sweeter.

[@metricstormtrooper]

Just replace it when you need too NOT when you want to, it's worked really well for me.

[@pallettowngangster9297]

This car won’t go for less than £45k in the UK. It will probably go for more.

[@antoniopalmero4063]

Cheers Elliot .🇬🇧

[@UCMpDwp7VEfKXRH3NyAW7kuj]

A big iPad with wheels attached on it ,so if comes to Europe make sure define it as a electronic device to reduce tariffs

[@ermv]

I was about to write that I would like do see a 8 to 10 year test of this car when Elliot questioned himself about the durability/reliabity of all the tech 😁

[@urbanstrencan]

And Geely is doing great job love their Polestar brand

[@yetufekci1]

Just wondering if the screen was smaller, the car could get cheaper? I don't think we need that size of screen.

[@level1selamat155]

Good try

[@returner323617]

Why would the screen "not work" in a couple of years time..? Provided that the processor is sufficiently advanced to support future versions of the vehicle's OS, then there's no issue. And that is the key, either the chipset has to be future-proofed, or they have to be easily serviceable and upgradeable...surely, it will be easier/cheaper to swap-out a CPU then junk the entire car.

[@toth1982]

Using mosquitos as background music is not a pleasant surprise. :)

[@chillfluencer]

05:09 - I know this experience from when I see 80085. So focused.

[@patrickjr11]

With EVs, it's allllll about the platform and software. And sharing those to create scale to reduce costs or maximise profits depending on your point of view. The car itself is a tad generic apart from the bonkers screen. But the same comment about that could easily be made about the one(s) in the top end Mercedes after all. It's a thing the modern world needs to get to grips with.

[@ravenousvisages]

Drove an Oldsmobile Trofeo with one of the first computer screens... Sure it's an obsolete computer by today's standards, but the instant mpg and engine data displayed in real time is still not as useful as a car gas pedal and brake. Put the big screen distractions in the house and live a lot longer.

[@foreeldo]

I wonder what the next-generation of CarPlay would look like on that huge screen.

[@runuphill]

Re: obsolete technology worries -- that statement can be applied to every other EV car & truck manufacturer out there.

[@michaelggriffiths]

The longevity of the screen is a worry for me also. I recently upgraded my Mitubishi Outlander PHEV to a used Kia E Niro. My budget allowed for either a Tesla Model 3 OR the E Niro. My budget isn’t inexhaustible and I tight with my cash. With the Tesla, I worry about the screen, controlling everything, and how much I’d have to pay to replace/repair it. With the Kia, I’ve got physical buttons, so if the screen fops on me - as long as I can still drive the car, I’d probably cheap out and drive it as-is.. I DO like the screen, but I’d not pay big money to replace it. The Geely is a nice car - I’d love to know the range and stats

[@DeterminedFC]

i mean the car only costs 20k so if the screen costs 3-5k to replace its not such a deal

[@terryrodbourn2793]

You need to tell us the charging speeds !

[@borky1987]

Slow

[@jonevansauthor]

Forget the car, where can I get the screen to just sit under my main monitors? All the weather and notifications I could ever want. :)

[@karlk7070]

that screen is awesome

[@a9udn9u-vanced]

That upside down pants building in the background got all my attentions

[@cloudpandarism2627]

is in some years the screen dont work anymore you go and replace the screen with a new one. kinda same as with buttons.. 🤨🤔 what if the CPU running this thing is broken i hear you say? well you replace the CPU and reinstall´the system. isnt that hard. i am driving a car with 2 massive screens for 3 years now. no reason to think why that suddenly would make my car undrivable

[@MrKOenigma]

I heard a colleague last week, he replaced the screen on his son's ipad. It cost him 11€for the spare part alone.... Its absolutely mind boggling, everything gets more expensive, but tech keeps getting cheaper....

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

there si a video of a guy driving a tesla model 3 and while driving he smashes the screen to pieces with a hammer. oyu can still operate the car completely.

[@Lightning---K.]

I think this car is going to be taxed and fee´d and then you can buy it for 30.000 Euros in Europe ... that still would be a fantastic price for such a decent sedan with lots of horsepower and nice interior !!! I would definatly buy one when available for under 25.000 Euros in Germany.

[@jonathansdiary1]

8 k resolution screen ? The screen alone is almost 20k in the US 😊

[@aliruane]

Well it will cost twice as much in the UK but even at 38 Grand people will buy this. I won’t but I do think it’s pretty cool.

[@ironlungthe3rd]

People talking about how much it costs to buy a car, come to Australia, where the average car costs 50-70% more than every other country.

[@davejolaurencharlie]

Ford's lawyers will love the Galaxy name

[@jonevansauthor]

It's in a different category like a Samsung Galaxy so it's not an issue. Geely make cars, Ford make jokes, not the same at all.

[@Steve-co1ic]

What to do if the screen stops working.......eerrrrr....get a new one fitted?

[@davidstuart4915]

It seems impossible that they can profit from selling this for £19k less taxes!!! - Add a max of 25% for UK sales and it will be a runaway success! - Huge battery, range, size and performance for 'peanuts!'

[@phelanwolf6747]

This won't be sold for that price in Europe. You cannot take the Chinese market price and just convert it to European prices. You need to add penalty tax, sales tax, transport, type registration and local adjustments to the price and maybe even more stuff. The price will then be more like 40-50K €.

[@danielmadar9938]

Thanks

[@gunnerlawts]

Rob's Roast has some interesting comments about FCS blocking, and more.

[@bonnie115]

If I want to see a screen, I'll sit and watch my TV or go on my computer. In a car, I just want the info I need for driving and that's it. A few analogue dials should do it.

[@BatCountryAdventures]

Some people prefer the info on a screen. The screen will offer the option to have GPS and different camera around the car. Honestly, when it comes to fully utilising all the functions, more screens the better.

[@bentp4891]

Yes. I hate all the touch screens and no real buttons.

[@MartinzW]

I want screen.

[@netrox1345]

thats just your opinion and that shows you are old enough but even then screens are better then monologs and sometimes safer as a matter of fact but ok keep driving a monolog car thats less safer then a smart car that can literally save your life. in case you dont know what im talking about you will see in the near future(if you still live then) what im talking about

[@natecarte6807]

​@@netrox1345 Putting all of the controls in a screen doesn't necessarily make it safer. Side mirrors, signalling stalks, AC vents etc.. should be adjustable without going through menus, there's such a thing as being too minimalistic.

[@Lord.Kiltridge]

Would it be possible for new cars to come with a dashboard slot to pop in my cell phone so I can both charge it and use it as a dash cam? Please? *_Please?_*

[@elinys2843]

Why is there always a second lid on the frunk? It’s a bit useless to me.

[@Steven-vo4ee]

China's progress is formidable.

[@muhamadfadzlyshaharani5787]

Its because the have the economic of scale. I think Geely's is the among the one that heavily sharing its EV platform towards it's auto Group in a large scale for years. Now SEA platform has spawn more then 16 product from it was launch in 2021. As an example, Ford only have 2 EV's with Mach E was a Cell to Pack in a heavily revise C2 platform while Lightning basically a Battery on frame platform. GM have 9 cars under their Ultium platform but several cars sales just started in 2023. With its issues, we knew they are far away to reach economic of scale.

[@speakatron5634]

Does it toast bread, though? 😂

[@vorlon81]

Dont give them any more ideas.

[@aaron11679]

EVs have outlets. Just bring your toaster 😂😂

[@ravenousvisages]

Must have an avocado slicer

[@JeanLoupRSmith]

If it's anything like BYD that £20k is gonna be more like £35k at least.

[@Sparky400]

Citstion needed. Byd is behind Tesla again. Tjey were in front of sales for one quater and they are behind again. That one quater does not mean they have more market share or have made more cars.

[@Nikoo033]

It’s not a grandpa car at all 😂. It’s very sleek and packed with features. Would have liked to have some efficiency figures, Chinese EV are usually struggling with efficiency. The Ioniq 6 also has a narrow entry that I used to not like, but after seeing it in the metal, its boot is gigantic and that opening is also more than fine.