This Cute Electric Camper Is An Off-Roading BEAST!

[@ImogenBhogal]

Spoiler alert. It's PRICEY. But that is inevitable when they're not being made in 100s of thousands. So the big question, how much would YOU pay for it?!

[@tmoosy]

50k

[@D.i.n.i.c.h.t.h.y.s]

without having finished the video yet - 15k maybe

[@stanislavjaracz]

No specs given, so hard to tell. We need battery size, range, charging speed etc.

[@Shauntron]

$70k

[@mach1nefan]

@@D.i.n.i.c.h.t.h.y.sreally?!

[@ihitchman83]

It's an electric Delica! Let's hope they can deliver on the production

[@justanothercommercial]

Or Toyota Hiace

[@GingerPiston]

They won’t

[@simonhenry7867]

Note the decia was designed to sell in Romania and eastern Europe. Renault somehow forgot Europe is a free single market and Spaniards Dutch and Swede could just pop over to Romania and drive it home. You can never tell what people want especially if you tell them what to want.

[@spankeyfish]

@@simonhenry7867 Do you mean Dacia? The Delica is a Mitsubishi that's rarely seen outside Japan.

[@Iceberg1313]

Or when seen from the front the Suzuki Carry Van tall narrow and hilarious.

[@yt_Ajay_]

This is by far the most 'cyberpunk' vehicle I've ever seen in my life. I need funky vans to make a comeback..

[@Oosh21]

Needs a Judge Dredd taxi body kit.

[@jooptablet1727]

Uhh Cybertruck?

[@SpeedyK2003]

@@jooptablet1727that’s a cheese grater not cyberpunk

[@patwhw]

Yeah, guys go look up "MAHIR SUPRON FS3" from Cyberpunk 2077. Really similar haha!

[@sharonbraselton4302]

me too

[@burnzy3210]

1:22 not sure why you're seeing a hi-jet when its actually a dead ringer for the old mitsubishi delica...

[@ckm-mkc]

Looks almost exactly like my 1993 Mitsubishi Delica StarWagon, except.... My Delica has zero computers and is the most reliable car I own by far..... A huge, huge advantage when you are hundreds of miles from nowhere.

[@saeedhossain6099]

there is a lot to be said for mechanical systems that although need maintenance, don't require proprietary tools to fix.

[@percivalgooglyeyes6178]

This looks like an amazing vehicle to venture to the outer parking lot of Whole Foods.

[@jamespaul2587]

Yes, it can even climb the curbs with enough of a head start

[@ejh1100]

Away from all the other vehicles.

[@GadgetMan777]

That's what Jeep Gladiators and Land Rovers are for

[@jamespaul2587]

@GadgetMan777 yes, with lifted suspension and ridiculous oversized off-road tires 😊

[@DABUAS69]

Perfect! Could not have said it better myself!!!!!

[@motorv8N]

Cool machine. And I love the idea that they’ve resisted the annoying “must eliminate all physical buttons and knobs!” trend for EVs. In fact they understand that while getting jostled and bounced you might actually need a bigger target to aim your finger at. Truly an example of Human Centered Design. Well done.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

bítiñesçwe di t need butínes

[@pinga858]

"Design of everyday things"?

[@jlinnlinn4241]

Very cool. Hope you make it. Add the ability to bring fully charged Extra batteries With you. Gas cans were Always carried because there are No gas stations or charging stations in the woods. Duh. I .e. spare tire. Just sayin. Best of luck. Thanks.

[@InimitaPaul]

Nice if they can get it made. I’ll stick with the Xbus for now, assuming they can get that made. The Xbus has off-road 4WD too but not as aggressive and considering the likelihood of me taking it anywhere other than a little bit off the beaten path is minimal this isn’t for me. Add the fact the Xbus is made in Germany and it will likely take these guys many years to release this in Europe and I’m out. The Xbus is MUCH more spacious too, and it has 800W of solar up top and you’ve got free power with you, I feel like this is a very North American vehicle. Edit: £88k! Are you mental! The Xbus is £50k fully loaded with removable batteries! 🤯

[@logicalChimp]

To be fair, the XBus caps out at 45kWh of battery, where as this comes with 80kWh (iirc), and it wasn't clear if the $88k included the $5k kitchen, etc.

[@roland9367]

My understanding of the XBus (when I last looked) is that it is a 450kg (without batteries) vehicle, meaning a specific catergory without proper safety testing and max of 3 seats. And a limited speed. I think it is totally uncomparable to this thing, not just because of offroading.

[@bazh6041]

​@@roland9367Yeah, the 3 seat limit for the xbus just killed my interest in it completely

[@roland9367]

@@bazh6041 It is in fact not really a normal car in that sense. Because it is built a lot lighter and not safety tested. Great useful vehicle though! But not always a fair comparison.

[@KevinAdams-kw9yb]

Well this aged like milk

[@inspecthergadgets8091]

The side door needs to be able to hinge at the middle of the door(just under the window to be able to be opened while in a parking lot. To open the door with the hinged part hanging down you can pull the handle down(easy with handful of bags or other things) and to open it as a solid gullwing, you can lift on the handle to keep the hinge locked to have a larger covered area.

[@memofromessex]

They should do one of those brand crossovers, but with Patagonia. I'd love to see the design and sustainability they'd add.

[@deanonesense]

They'd add sustainablility by making it a motorcycle and not this bloated green washing thing.

[@stevestruthers6180]

As a Canadian, I am really pleased to see this. For far too long, we've simply let the Americans design and build our cars and trucks (although we do have branch plants in Canada that do some or all of the building for these vehicles along with a more limited scope of design and engineering capabilities). It's also neat to see a Canadian company so far ahead in its attempts to leverage AI in motor vehicle technology. Shame about the price, though, as it will make a vehicle like this not only a niche product, but something only the well-heeled can afford.

[@KyleRuggles]

I concur!! It's time we show what we can do.

[@jvelez5381]

​@@KyleRugglesnothing ask Trudeau

[@chosenideahandle]

It is nice to see! Americans build and design most of our pick-up trucks, but that's really about it for substantial sales (Canada also assembles a bunch of non pick-ups for Dodge, and Ford). Honda, and Toyota are of course popular (the RAV4, Civic, and CR-Vs are assembled in Canada). The Hyundai Elantra is actually the third best selling sedan in Canada. Yeah, we need some of our own!

[@unusallife6326]

As an American I believe what is good for Canada is good for America. I lived close to the Canadian border so I love my neighbors to the North.

[@stuart6478]

for a car that can't drive longer than a couple hours

[@thechappist]

I think I'm still partial to the Canoo Adventure, and at half the price... of course like the Canoo these both are not available yet. I'd probably choose the Potential if it was around 30k.. or less. Looks nifty.

[@xxwookey]

Sadly this makes the Buzz camper looks cheap (that's 'only' 81 grand).

[@chosenideahandle]

I think the Canoo will actually make it. They seem to be pretty good at raising capital. Historically Canadian vehicles have gone nowhere of course, so it would be nice to see that change.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

biy canoo

[@toyotaprius79]

I always loved to see of FC promotes new EVs, especially when they're not pretentious behemoths But aren't they all not using FC as a platform for venture capital?

[@patreekotime4578]

If the option is between new companies using FC so they can maybe have a slim chance of surviving or getting bought up, or FC just being a shill for the OEMs drab parade of identical SUVs... Ill take the former. Id rather have an aspirational story than a cynical one. 🤷

[@toyotaprius79]

@@patreekotime4578 but the thing is, especially with OEMs and getting early access, every motor KZbin channel has to bend over or risk losing big time by the algorithm. The Honda e video in particular is a stain on FC

[@ckm-mkc]

At this price point, it's more than pretentious. It's a toy to go along with your superyacht and private jet - the perfect virtue-signaling of your green credentials after flying 1/2 around the world for a weekend of glamping.....

[@peterheinrichs7634]

3 things for optimizing came to my mind: Offroad: I live in northern Germany with rather muddy or sandy grounds. No steep hills and surely no rocks. Offroad in my area means unpaved roads through the fields and woods. washed out roads, partly muddy. So, I don't need a lot of torque, I rather need ground clearance all the way from the left tires to the right side. The biggest challenge would be a massive wall of hardened earth between the left wheel tracks of the road and the right wheel track . So, this model doesn't fit my preferences. The suspension springs(?) go way to deep to the ground. You got a lot of space from the big tires, but you waste it by using this space for stuff beneath the line of the axis. Camper: You're sleeping at the level of all these big, open windows. Most people prefer private space while sleeping. You might wanna add some options, especially for the open front of the camper. Given the tiny interriors, curtains won't do the job. Doors: In most areas of the world, the tiny sizes of parking slots are a thing. Enormous wing doors like that cann't be opened anywhere in any given city in europe!!! :D My guess would be: take the inbuild ladder to another spot and change to a sliding door instead. Other than that: your camper is exactly, what I'm looking for right now: A very narrow offroad van with sleeping options for two.

[@phantomfreak7899]

CEO of a car company saying that all their engineers have more experience in AI and software than in vehicle dynamics is very reassuring

[@patrickdgarez86]

Love the innovation and the stretch out to the more rugged sphere (Potential's real market will be in the industrial domain but it's fun that they are toying with consumer off road) What an excellent presenter. Relaxed with a fluid cadence and highly engaging. Hats off.

[@danielwhyatt3278]

OMG, I absolutely love this design so much. I really do hope that, considering it’s most likely very pricey, its price does go down with enough orders. This looks like a design which would be very popular in Japan. This vehicle appears to be the perfect size for the countryside over there, and for multipurpose and rural living.

[@Stuntman175]

You should read about the Mitsubishi Delica then.

[@cmw3737]

So many people. including me, are waiting for a good EV camper like this or the x-bus. Most of them aren't rich though so still need things to get more affordable. This reminds me of the old Mitsubishi Delica that I had travelling around Australia so has immediate appeal, not that UK has that much off-road trails and beaches to explore.

[@ninjagotguns]

Absolutely ridiculous for the price. Especially when you compare this to a vw van. You can't even open the side doors on a parking lot

[@xxwookey]

Dunno if you've looked recently but the prices of VW vans are also absolutely ridiculous.

[@londonwestman1]

And so narrow.. Well equipped for the Moose Test? I wonder. (In you haven't heard, the Moose Test is a rehearsal for encountering a moose on the road at speed and having to swerve around it. Compulsory in Canada, I think.)

[@LittleSpot]

in the case of side parking the doors are also going into the traffic or into bikelanes/sidewalks. Absolut ridiculus.

[@xxwookey]

@@londonwestman1 I agree it looks implausbible, but it'll probably be OK because it's an EV: all the weight in the bottom.

[@nevadaxtube]

I really love this channel for showing new and innovative vehicles that virtually no one will ever see or actually buy.

[@GingerPiston]

They will literally do a piece on anything with a battery and electric motor.

[@patreekotime4578]

The whole point is to make electric vehicles aspirational. There is nothing aspirational about the millions of same same same SUVs and crossovers that the OEMs want to build. Or the channels that pretend to be excited to see yet another one as lip service to those OEMs. 🤮 By giving attention to lesser-known vehicles, this space at least introduces the POSSIBILITY that one of these startups will make it, or at least get bought up. Plenty of channels cover the drab offerings of the OEMs with gobs of gusto. Maybe try one of those if you arent interested in aspirational or different.

[@GingerPiston]

@@patreekotime4578 No, the point is for them to earn enough views to pay themselves a salary. And to do that, they frequently present pieces about small startups as if they’re about to go into full production. It’s amusing but also worthy of derision, as they perhaps ought to have a bit more honesty about what they’re presenting.

[@patreekotime4578]

​​​@@GingerPiston Yes, well we all live under capitalism. But the channel is aspirational. Like I said, there are PLENTY of channels that make a big deal out of seeing yet another also-ran vehicle from some OEM that is completely forgettable. Or what about the plethora of channels making a buck on spreading rumors and nonsense? Robert has always been interested in the more aspirational side of EVs, and I am glad that has continued. At least they are doing that. If you are salty about the economic aspects of KZbin, then certainly there are bigger fish to fry... some really awful shills and rumor mill dregs channels, or the machismo automotive channels still pushing the "real men burn more fuel" BS you could focus on. Or what about the channels who do paid reviews and never mention they are paid to do it? Several of those in the EV space, at least one that used to be a reputable channel.

[@DeezjaVu]

@@GingerPiston If you think the views is enough to pay them a salary, think again. I'm pretty sure it costs them more to make the video than what it earns them. A quick google search could have told you that for 200k views earnings are in the range of $200 to $1,000. FUD much?

[@felderup]

i like the idea of having a micro rv with space for a twin mattress, granted, i'd go for a fold down rear rail and push out kitchenette that hangs ABOVE the bed, so the bed can be lower, hanging curtain outside for toilet/shower, waste dehydrator, pretty much all i'd want for travel. for the chassis, a revival of the original citroen all round swingarm design for rough road... though torsion bars to lower the rear deck would work as well.

[@BananaArmsMcNess]

I love forward control designs, they can fit so much usable space into a short wheebase. This machine looks great and i love the size

[@BrightBlueJim]

Loved my Vanagon!

[@BananaArmsMcNess]

@@BrightBlueJim haha, I still have one! It's a great machine

[@WAJK2030]

1. It’s a winch AND tow hooks 2. The Gullwings will trap people in tight parking spots 3. lower the Roof a bit and provide a roof tent option, with ladder 4. Need a bike rack at the back. 5. Prolong the back, so the overhang at the back is identical to the front. It fixes the design imbalance and gives more room for storage

[@koitorob]

With any off roading vehicle, the LAST thing you want is overhang on EITHER end!

[@s.porter8646]

Love it, the problem with the gull wing doors is what happens when you get to a crowded charger

[@EVSpeed]

the canipe doors are interesting, but i suggest you make one of them a sliding door instead, in case of parking issues (in a city or at home). you do afterall have to park your car at home with maybe limited space or at a grocery store for supplies.

[@saeedhossain6099]

definitely, designers seem to miss the functionality requirements to make a vehicle useful. dual sliding doors is what allows for a large opening with out causing issues. the Tesla X falcon doors are a great production example of how wow factor doesn't translate. leaks, failed mechanism etc, all detracts from the competence of a vehicle.

[@JDJD-hg9hu]

I love the design. It looks amazing. You need a Scooby-Doo wrapped option. I understand the narrow wheel base my concern is the trade off with tilt angle. I would think it being top heavy is a bigger concern then scratching from bushes. In my opinion you should make the wheel base slightly wider.

[@Alfaghetty]

Batteries are very heavy and presumably as low as possible. Could get away with a lot more with all that low weight.

[@BMWHP2]

Nice bus, i like it. That "potential" is more in the range of the Xbus (also side by side category), which is NOT a prototype, but already goes in production this year. Complete with solar panels, a camper version, a pick-up, a people transporter, a cabrio etc etc. Up to 9 models of the Xbus, with several battery options and all models in offroad and onroad versions. And the price of that Xbus, is from €18k up. So, you can buy 5 x Xbus for that price. The Xbus will be build end 2023 at VDL Netherlands and will be for sale. The Camper version will be around €35k (with largest battery pack and offroad version), but comes with kitchen and beds etc. Max range up to 600km with all battery packs and solar. We were in at Electric brands in Germany to have a look at the Xbus. We will probably buy one next year.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

wróng

[@sharonbraselton4302]

buy xbux

[@vincentrobinet2713]

What a cool van. While the side doors opening like a hatch back is nice when camping, they may be problematic in the city when parked close to another vehicle. I do like the narrow and tall look.

[@gormauslander]

Intro shot: "aww, that's so cute!" Her climbing on it: "holy frick it's huge"

[@DemPilafian]

EVs have many individual features that aren't strictly dependent on EV technology and could theoretically go into an ICE vehicle. However, once you combine the features they become impossible to accommodate in an ICE vehicle because of the need to design around the ICE's engine block and drivetrain. The Adventure 1 would be unthinkable as an ICE vehicle without massive undesirable trade-offs.

[@waveman1500]

Not really, there are plenty of forward-control vans with ICE engines and 4x4. Mitsubishi Delica and Toyota HiAce are the most obvious.

[@DemPilafian]

@@waveman1500 One of the trade-offs the Delica had to make because of it's engine block is that the vehicle can't pass U.S. federal safety standards. And in Australia the vehicle was the *first ever to get a zero-star safety rating.* A small ICE vehicle is basically impossible to make safe.

[@ShortVersion1]

A lot of us have been keeping tabs on EVs for years, of course, I'll speak for all of us by saying this is DOPE! We're watching in the tub, and both agree this is the most exciting new ev prototype in a while. If it had V2G and solar on the sides and top, it'd be my number 1!

[@FritzyFreak]

yeah I dont get the point of making a off roading camping EV. It just feels like youre asking to get stranded. If it had solar to recharge the batteries over a weekend then boom you can get to the next location it would be amazing! But it doesnt and that to me just reallyyyy makes it a useless vehicle. It does look cool dont get me wrong. Just with current tech it doesnt make much sense to me

[@thomasbroker69]

The main point for me is EV’s are to be simple to make & cheap to buy & run, compared to an ICE car there is a lot less components , so there is no reason for any electrical car to expensive unless they dial in a ton of extras or lots of design & marketing hype to boost profits. Who cares about prototyping if it’s end result will be way too expensive for the average person..

[@41tinman41]

An electric kei car! Cool! I wish these vehicles are more commonplace and not in limited production. I would be so eager to go camping and roadtrips if I had one of these.

[@tonners.pettitt9938]

What they should also do is make a UN spec panel van road going version of this, make it cheap with focus on maximum efficiency It'll be the next Transit

[@sharonbraselton4302]

its efeçent enought

[@someoneelse7629]

Working many years in sales has made me fluent in "bullshit-speak", and this video is full of it! Many years as an offroader/motorsport has made me understand what works and what doesn't And many years tinkering with electronics has given me insight in that too. This will never leave the prototype stage, but the company will burn trough investor money like there is no tomorrow.

[@koitorob]

Yes, it's a nice idea but...

[@sir_wesley86]

I love this. I feel like they made this for people who care about the design and what it says. I literally would have a one-piece jump suit that matched these colors and tell everyone I'm currently just doing some E.V.A.

[@dkdanis1340]

4:09 Depends just because you are in development it doesn't mean that other companies don't already have it they just need to unlock the full system. Overall it's a great van looks very cool. And the proactive offroad system is amazing.

[@CabrilloTV]

I enjoyed the video, but i am bemused as to why they want to take away the fun of off road driving with intelligent driving controls.

[@fishfullness]

Military or other work applications

[@flannel2699]

My 1st thoughts too.. it might be fun to compete against it over a challenging course though - maybe even learn some stuff.. so long as I can turn it off whenever I want.

[@JetsetDruid]

I was also thinking this, as @fishfullness pointed out for non civilian markets most likely, I can't see many consumers wanting this kind of vehicle but not wanting to drive themselves

[@7im.97.7.C]

What really surprised me was that this was an electric car from New Brunswick, where I went to college. If it were me 7 years ago, it would be hard for me to believe it. The people there are friendly and I hope Potential Motors will be successful.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

baters had 42 perct kssz range

[@grahamcook9289]

The ID Buzz is an EV van conversion? I don't think so. It's a brand new EV that merely evokes the iconic VW camper of the past.

[@sapiotone]

Without checking myself, I think the ID Buzz is built on the same chassis and EV system as earlier VW ID vehicles. Hence it being referred to as an EV van conversion... the baseline car platform was converted to make the van. I don't pay much attention to chassis development though, so I'm likely wrong

[@ByteBitten]

It might be she referred to ID Buzz _camper_ conversions. I can't find stock ID Buzz campers.

[@grahamcook9289]

You are correct in that the Buzz is based on the same VW platform used for the ID4 etc, but I still don't think that makes it a conversion, more an implementation of the platform. In the conventional sense of an EV conversion an existing ICE vehicle has its ICE replaced with an EV drive train. It's pedantic I know, but I have high expectations of the Fully Charged Show. They should know better.@@sapiotone

[@MrAdopado]

@@sapiotone On the same platform but that doesn't make it a conversion ... just as the ID4 isn't a conversion or the Cupra Born or the ID3 or any number of ICE vehicles which use a common platform.

[@PrimalOutdoors]

When they are ready to put one to the test in a real Overland scenario, I have developed a few remote routes through Oregon that provide a good test. One of the routes was recently highlighted on Travel Oregon. Jason

[@AverageJoe928]

This may sound ridiculous but I couldn't get over the crazy amount of vocal fry the CEO uses. It's grating to listen to him speak.

[@amaljoe367]

it reminded me of the 'Coffee Shop' Scene From Loudermilk doing rounds on tiktok 😅

[@Scarbir]

Agreed.

[@oingpla]

Reminds me of a Speak & Spell @@amaljoe367

[@fethikula3706]

Harika dış cephe görüntü.

[@hassannour1697]

Hadii aan rabo inaan kofahmo, loqadooda aan kohadlaa.@@fethikula3706

[@obfuscurity]

That's quite a statement that a vehicle that hasn't even made it to production can go in places that the Rivian (which has already successfully taken on some of the harder trails in Moab) cannot. If you're going to make a claim like that perhaps you should present some actual evidence?

[@FJUH]

I really enjoy driving and it’s disappointing to see manufacturers going in the opposite direction. I’m a fan of BEV’s but something simple where I get to make the decisions would be great!

[@JamesGreenier]

At $136,000, I would expect that this thing would have all types luxuries,

[@JamesGreenier]

@@michaeldalton6495 yeah agreed!

[@The1stDukeDroklar]

The last thing I want in an off road vehicle is an EV dependent on the grid to get charged. Off-road is going to kill any range this thing might have. You won't get nearly the regenerative braking and the constant climbing is gonna drain it quick.

[@Sloppyjoe96]

the thing with the side by side scene, is we dont want any fancy stuff just want simple brute force power, no abs and traction control etc. what would really be important for them in that market is to outperform these big turbo 1000s while also having the range to make it through a day of riding.

[@bmuns6445]

I think this is a really cool offroad micro van. I could see the LA County Fire Department using lots of these for annual fire situations.

[@lindseymckirdy1830]

What? to start them when the batteries ignite?

[@ljprep6250]

Yeah, those 40 liters of water would put out the teeniest fires, for sure!

[@sharonbraselton4302]

yes

[@carl8790]

This is a really cute design. 100miles of off road range isn't too bad depending on how rough the terrain is, if it's very rocky, hilly, muddy, etc. There's no way you're going to accomplish 100 miles of rough terrain that quickly. If it's on a dirt road track then that's a different story on range.

[@PaulCarmona]

Ohh, so 40-50 in real world then

[@sharonbraselton4302]

wríng

[@evolv.e]

Looks like something out of a late ‘60’s sci-fi movie

[@flannel2699]

UFO.. Thunderbirds.. Mystery Machine..?

[@tonyBobb5209]

Well presented, yet I have a few points I'd like to make, being involved for many years now and a proud owner of a VW Transporter T6.1. With regards to the winged doors, this may look fancy yet you're unable to attached a side awning to accommodate guests, a larger dinning area or to entertain. The width of a VW transporter is 1.9m when this vehicle is only 1.6m. In the UK we have narrow roads that are not a challenge. With must VW Transporters, depending on the conversion company, I have a 80ltr water tank that is stored under the body of the camper, to no compromise on space internally. With VW transporter and other brands, you can accommodate up to five people, with two sleeping at the top of the pod top roof, two in the main body of the camper, with a RIB or Rock n Roll bed, and space at the front to host a child in a cab cot bed or someone who's short. This accommodates more than the two people you can sleep in the potential motors vehicle. With regards to the kitchen and washing facilities being at the back or the camper, this is not practical if you're trying to hold in heat when winter camping, when it's raining etc... with a VW Transporter and other models I.e. Ford Customs, you can have a wardrobe that can hold up to a weeks worth of clothing, including wash bags for four people, a fully functioning kitchen that comes with a generous sink, a two hob burner and a heater, with a fridge and freezer compartment, also cupboards to store more items. With regards to the price for the Potential Motors, this is way too PRICEY! For anyone interested, you'd be better off purchasing a camper, that still comes with gadgets, a futuristic conversion and have the combustible engine replaced with an EV engine. This process is something I have looked into myself and is expensive, yet still cheaper than the potential motors vehicle. Finally, if you want something minimal, my opinion would be to have a old reliable pinzgauer (still used by the British armed forces to date), have it converted to an EV for a fraction of the cost.

[@workhardforit]

At that price point I expected more and significantly better fit and finish.

[@peterheinrichs7634]

It's just a prototype, isn't it? No need to invest in finishing, if you still have to change chassis and so on. 💁‍♂

[@Ozzzzz861]

The real value of Potential is the long-term data on off-road environments from customers driving around they'll have stored as well as having an off-road AI they can license out as it gets trained on more data and gets better.

[@mrfoameruk]

The price is ridiculous.

[@ChristianBehnke]

Economies of scale. If they're only making dozens, they'll be pricey.

[@mrfoameruk]

@@ChristianBehnke A lot of money for next to nothing (wow it has an optional small kitchen in the back). It would be better to buy an electric van and fit it out yourself or get a company to do that. Or get an old VW and put a new electric engine in it. They have priced themselves out of the market and won't be producing many. Another failed idea I think brought on by stupid pricing.

[@ChristianBehnke]

@@mrfoameruk Oh, I agree 100%, but remember a company who is developing all of this tech from scratch has a bigger R&D expense mountain to try and recoup with very few unit sales.

[@ws1814]

@@ChristianBehnkeWell them not being able to make a lot doesn’t make it worth more. It’s not the same as Ferrari launching a limited edition car. This vehicle simply is not worth that amount, not even half that amount.

[@bettyswallocks6411]

I like the one with the transparent bodywork. Very cool.

[@JohnHuxleySavage]

Have been hoping and waiting for an electric vehicle similar to a Subaru Domingo or Mitsubishi Delica! This will be out of my price range for sure, but hopefully it will help to pave the way for more electric off-road microvans!

[@kiwiguy4706]

Yup, the L400 is my idea of an off-road van 👌

[@Ag3nt0fCha0s]

I went further off road in an Octavia than my friend in his X5 because he was scared he would scratch his paintwork. 99.9% of off raiders never off road. Their owners test their off roading by taking them up hiking trails you could get a K12 Micra up if you were careful. Watching the video I could have driven a K12 Micra over all the terrain that I saw this drive. Admittedly I would drive it carefully though.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

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[@sharonbraselton4302]

buy x5 bmw hybrude

[@andylewis210]

£5000 for a camping kitchen. Who would pay that and what have they been smoking?

[@sharonbraselton4302]

master çhef duse

[@wadafruit]

Suzuki used to make something that was very popular in India. You can see it all over India. It was called the Omni. This is basically a reborn Omni. Would be noice to see this in India at affordable prices. Berri No-ICE.

[@olavl8827]

Yes, it does look cute. Another car it reminds me of is the UAZ Buchanka. With the current geopolitical situation no one is going to consider a Russian car of course, and rightly so, but that is another cute (and classic) little van that is also a true off-roading beast. This one though, at that price, is going to be a failure - if it ever reaches the market at all. Also I don't love all of the AI nonsense and the explanation by the engineer doesn't convince me.

[@kiandymundi]

4:15, you talk of autonomy with a smile on your face, as if you're looking forward to total automotive autonomy I don't wanna be in a world without the joy of driving, especially in a vehicle like that this is provocative, different and exciting

[@colingenge9999]

She may be the best presenter bar none. Useful information presented clearly and honestly.

[@btnbiker]

Careful Jack fan boy here

[@colingenge9999]

@@btnbiker we all love Jack’s style, but is a bit overly fond of superlatives.

[@Ulbre]

No mention of range (unless I missed that). Normally you have to drive away to even get to and from your off road adventure, so it will require that range as well as the intended off road range.

[@sebastiankobialka4071]

this thing NEEDS solar on the roof. you anyway need it for camping .. also it is nice, even when it charges like 10 kilometers a day

[@sharonbraselton4302]

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[@sharonbraselton4302]

yes it dise

[@TenTenorioArt]

I'd love to ride in this thing if the price wasn't so utterly out of reach. EVs are supposed to be the future and so many follow the same conventional thinking as the gas-powered vehicles of the last 25 years. Finally, the innovation we're looking for in automatic terrain adaptability mixing over with double-gullwing lateral doors and windows that slide manually, a ladder practically camoflauged into the design, and that rooftop storage / camping basin.

[@ConvincedIdiot]

Ok host, so at first I thought the van was REALLY tall, but now that you have used yourself as a scale and thrown numbers at me, I realize that you would make most cars look tall, lol.

[@Scarbir]

Lovely little thing!

[@staudtj1]

I completely agree . . . . and the Camper is way cool also . . .

[@MTerrance]

It looks like it would roll over at 10 mph on a tight curve, but with the low center of gravity that might not be the problem it appears to be. Would love to see it rounding a tight curve and not tumbling off the road. Even if it isn't terribly roll over prone, I would hesitate to put a bunch of stuff on that roof rack. At $136,000 I would take the Cybertruck in a heartbeat.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

wróng

[@key2adventure]

I wouldn't dare to go anywhere off road with that limited range.

[@DemPilafian]

I used to live in Colorado and took my old Jeep out on the trails all across the State. *I definitely 100% had range anxiety in my ICE 4x4.* You must plan ahead regardless of vehicle type. When you’re rock crawling at the speed of a casual walk, your engine is still running and burning up gas. A 4x4 EV has the advantage that when you’re going slow crawling over rocks, it will barely sip from the battery.

[@key2adventure]

@@DemPilafian Sometimes, like the places in Iceland I went with my previous car a Land Rover Discovery no planning can help you, cause there is no place in the inner parts of Iceland to charge your car. With the ICE car I brought to 20l canister of diesel and starting with a full tank I could cover almost 1000 km, plenty enough to cross Iceland and stay in the inner parts for days without any kind of range anciety. That's why I say that wouldn't dare go off road with the car in this video, I would get stuck in the middle of Iceland.

[@DemPilafian]

@@key2adventure 1,000 km? Iceland is 300 km wide. If you were really serious, you'd go all the way and live off the grid in a shack with solar panels to charge your 4x4 EV.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

wring

[@Boroffski]

That’s a really, REALLY, expensive way to compete with a torsion “locker” differential system. However, the dedication to this innovation is what being human is all about and I applaud this idea.👏🏼👏🏼

[@kenmcclow8963]

I had a 1985 Toyota Van that was the same size and shape, so I was excited about this until I saw the price. I could afford to buy the JDM Mitsubishi Delicia, but this is a bit out of reach. To enjoy the outdoors in Canada in that, I would have to add screens. I might make one of the second row doors a slider for parking lot convenience and have the other one flip up for camping convenience. You could have a magnetic opening screen in the doorway, or a screen room hanging off the door when it’s open

[@sharonbraselton4302]

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[@mrfrog8502]

Looks like a Soviet utility vehicle from the 80's expect for the price.

[@thechappist]

Imagine the price in Rubles...

[@MitchellRoman97]

I just found a new dream vehicle. Can't wait for other companies to make the small electric bus-styled vehicle but more affordable

[@sharonbraselton4302]

1980éço.y faries lamghiñotoed vipes affodabél privxe tag

[@drewcipher896]

It's a really neat vehicle.

[@rendaddy_]

you mean...lovely vehicle?

[@liamredmill9134]

The thing with camping is that it's generally out in the stick's where there are no charging stations,,,,so I think a fold out foil solar panel is essential for a few days toping up whilst camping

[@rayfletcher3683]

Haven’t you all heard of current bushes? They are all over Canada! Just need to carry an extension cord and converter🤗

[@james4eng44]

I'd like to see how it holds up to the moose test.

[@richardwalther6229]

Those tow hooks look about as tough as two croquet wickets.

[@trystankirkley5829]

Seems like a really cool prototype. It’s a shame they will be out of business in a few years.

[@kaischmidt6597]

This bus is a real game changer.

[@grahamguest142]

At last a car with windows and a view, let's hope they make a basic 2wd basic tarmac family version for every day town use, but at order people carrier price....oh yes must be rhd too❤

[@grahamguest142]

*ordinary

[@philtucker1224]

I think in the U.K. and Europe the forthcoming Ford Transit electric camper will be competitive at around £80-90k.

[@grahamguest142]

@@philtucker1224 affordable?!? I'm talking citroën grand space tourer, 35k

[@philtucker1224]

@@grahamguest142 I’m looking at three berth transits with sink and cooking facilities..

[@grahamguest142]

@@philtucker1224 I'm not. As I said, I want an ordinary people carrier.

[@daveunderwood6498]

Iconic vintage VW bus design sells it alone. No other car companies have the guts to go that route. A 2 cylinder diesel hybrid would give you 3.5-4L/100km. Do that until battery technology improves. One of these days engineers will get it.

[@seansysig]

30cm (11.8”) ground clearance is ridiculous. It appears to be tippy but the batteries and 40 liters of water36kilos (80lbs.) down low should counteract forces.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

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[@sharonbraselton4302]

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[@germann99]

Great concept! We need more vans like this. The VW Bus in all his variants is very successful and has not much competition.

[@spent808]

$136,000?......hahahahaha

[@dcvariousvids8082]

Yep! At that price, it’s only going in one direction. Down the same deadend that Lightyear 1 occupies.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

1980 $650000 lambghi diabkeo

[@snowstrobe]

What a great design, both inside and out. Shame about all the AI/digital bs, would love an analogue one. Also wish RVs didn't bother with seating for four, these things are obv only suitable for one of two people, (folding chairs make for better camp seats). Would lso benefit from a bit of a pop-top...

[@joebooth67]

That's not gonna pass the Moose Test 😅

[@benholroyd5221]

Why not? If the batteries are in the floor the cog will be low.

[@neglectedloves]

@@benholroyd5221 ever been driving in rough terrain? It will change your mind

[@benholroyd5221]

@@neglectedloves the moose test is swerving around an obstacle in the road is it not? I inferred the the ops concern was that it might tip over due to being tall and narrow. None of that has anything to do with rough terrain. Further the moose test is an objective test. You seem to be equating 'feeling' like it's going to fall over, as equivalent to actually falling over.

[@neglectedloves]

@@benholroyd5221 someone else was referring to the moose test, not me 😉 even 4x4 with normal track width can tip over. With this I wouldn't even dare to go near a hill. Can't defeat physics

[@benholroyd5221]

@@neglectedloves yes, the op was referring to the moose test, I was replying to the op. You were saying how something completely unrelated would change my mind. I'm not trying to defeat physics. Cog (centre of gravity) is relevant to the physics of whether it would tip over, in a moose test. Or on a hill. But if it it tips over on a hill, doesn't mean it would tip over doing the moose test, so no, it wouldn't change my mind.

[@ogbrmusic]

Tires need to be lower profile with smaller sidewall, bigger size wheels as well as a wider wheelbase or wider wheel because if you take it off road at any decent amount of speed it's gonna bounce! My suggestions are for that reason and to help balance it's top heavy design that won't do well around corners in town. Otherwise seems cool like a newer utilitarian VW Bus!

[@jonragnarsson]

That price hurt my feelings deeply ..

[@JustinCaseSolarPower]

Spoiler alert. It's PRICEY and has no range when in sandy or mud off-road conditions. So don't expect to go anywhere in it.

[@thearab59]

Looks cool.

[@rendaddy_]

you mean...looks lovey?

[@christover1]

Forward control is great for off road visibility, but is hell scary down steep hills .

[@neglectedloves]

Can't wait to see the first ones tip over in rough terrain 😂

[@logicalChimp]

Unlikely, given how much low-down mass it has (with 80kWh of battery under the chassis)

[@neglectedloves]

@@logicalChimp highly doubt that this will be enough since you will need lots of ground clearance. Can't have both. What's shown in the video even a two wheel driven car could do

[@DemPilafian]

@@neglectedloves What are you talking about? ICE vehicles tip over all the time. EVs (both 4x4 and 4x2) have a much lower center of gravity. Jeeps are narrow and they do tip over, but they'd tip over *LESS OFTEN* if they had a lower center of gravity.

[@neglectedloves]

@@DemPilafian did you really watch the video?!? This track width is a laugh with that height! Low gravity centre won't help much since you lose ground clearance... But hey, go ahead and try for yourself 😂

[@DemPilafian]

@@neglectedloves _"Low gravity centre won't help much"_ Go take a physics class.

[@gingerelvis]

I can't help but notice it didn't move an inch or any mention of potential specs... I get it's preproduction but if this thing is really meant for the "wunderlust" we need to see if it's actually capable of going offroad without falling over as soon as it hits a pothole. It looks VERY top heavy.

[@teinspringz]

Looks like it can tip over quite easily.

[@ChristianBehnke]

Don't forget the 70kWh battery pack sitting 30cm off the ground to keep it pretty well anchored.

[@GreenRobotCat6877]

Much like Tesla, the entire bottom of the van is all one big battery making it stable.

[@GreenJimll]

Nice looking and well thought out vehicle - it's what the Tesla Cybertruck or VW Id Buzz could have been. But as a prototype from a non-Chinese start up what's the chance we'll actually see people being able to buy a consumer product version? Or will it go the same way as the Arrival prototype van or the constantly teased Morris JE?

[@Pinzpilot101]

It looks great...but so did another great looking 4x4 electric bus, camper, van, pickup.(you know of which I speak. X BUS. Ex as in probably will never arrive)......and it still hasn't come to market...nor probably will. Maybe this falls into the same category.....(still looking for money to make it).

[@ByteBitten]

ElectricBrands has production contract with VDL, expected to hit the market Q4 2024.

[@Rufus_Pufus]

If that doesn’t have enough off-road potential, then visit the Edison motors booth at the show.

[@eap8317]

£88K!!!! why? This should be around max.£30K to consider it as a potential vehicle for the masses! ramp up production and commercialise it in many countries and you'll have a winner... look at the Van-life craze in social media and you can see there is a market for this vehicle... it is a shame that everything electric these days seems to be directed to an elite few

[@grahamchamberlain3141]

The vw ID buzz stats at about £60k so in those terms this is not really overpriced. But then I think the buzz is massively overpriced so....

[@eap8317]

@@grahamchamberlain3141 Agree... but after looking at this car, I think the price is just because they don't have a proper production line and it is all made one by one to order which will never work if they want to be a profitable car manufacturer...

[@cyphre]

Love the overall design and idea! Neat attachments, although it's a lot of window dressing. Few issues though: how do you plan to open the doors in a parking space? Much as it's an outdoor, off-road vehicle, you will still need to travel to a store to pick up supplies for your potential outing. Looks fantastic though. Hope they actually do some practical activities to work out the issues people would have in the future.

[@garryt6356]

Price kills it…