Funding The Climate Breakdown : How can it be stopped?

[@ggg148g]

My money is either in my pocket or in an account of "Banca Etica", the Global Alliance Bank in Italy, which does a wonderful job. I don't know about other GA Banks, but unfortunately in Italy "Banca Etica" doesn't have the possibility to attract clients with aggressive marketing or by showing off elegant offices in impressive buildings. What can we do about it? Probably we should talk to the people who are most committed to counter climate change into putting their savings in GA banks, in countries where there is one, and invest in sustainable projects, which can be done everywhere. Exactly what JHAT did in this video. JHAT, you rock, keep up the good work!!

[@9squares]

Another well researched video. Thank you for your work. You have become a world leader in rational assessment of climate change. Not to mention, banking.

[@sodalitia]

You got me at Dutch smoking most what they grow!

[@thebionicwoman1762]

ThanQ 4 the info & bank links ❤️✌🏽

[@simonjackson7]

Great research and writing, excellently presented. It's outrageous that the financial system should continue to fund our own demise. Is there a "better" (worse) example of systems thinking than this? Good grief. Maybe we're too stupid to save ourselves. Thank you for the information on making a difference.

[@9squares]

Maybe? The evidence seems pretty clear we're too stupid to save ourselves.

[@lisastassi4500]

Well, the human race is certainly getting ready to win a big, old Darwin Award with respect to environmental destruction and global warming, that's for certain. It's NOT simple. Now that the symptoms of global warming have become SO extreme, people are finally waking up, so denial of reality is a real problem with human beings. But that's not all, we don't seem to have a lot of foresight as a species. I'm thinking of hundreds of nuclear fission reactors all over the Earth that will need LOTS of fossil fuels to properly decommission them. So, it's sort of complicated.

[@9squares]

@@lisastassi4500 Well said, I particularly agree with our collective lack of foresight.

[@msheart2]

@@9squares too stupid to know truth from agenda.

[@msheart2]

@@lisastassi4500 "old Darwin Award with respect to environmental destruction and global warming, that's for certain. " An award for dumb as a rock and parroting liars, an award for too blind to see and know your own environment is being intentional modified.

[@ElijahPerrin80]

:) I really enjoyed this show as I do with your shows normally, thank you for the laugh and the links and the thinks. Im gonna check your page for your take on OTEC, modern atomic power and your opinion on dams.

[@rhorizon]

Thanks for the handy links. Currently looking into transferring to one of these banks.

[@CrzyMan_Personal]

Same! Also, I'm making sure KZbin knows this is a good video with lots of engagement in the comments. This long of a unique comment should help.

[@phillip1115]

Thanks for what you do. I love your programs.

[@webchimp]

Already with Co-Op bank and Bulb for electric.

[@TheTanitrovitz]

I was wondering if Co-op in the UK was listed, but to my surprise it is not

[@michaeltodd5806]

Thanks for a great video.

[@aaronbono4688]

Subtlety? We don't need no stinkin' subtlety.

[@RussCR5187]

It's not polite to say that it's time to stop being polite about the climate crisis. But at this point that's exactly what we must say. I'm with you!

[@livingwithoptimus4526]

wow dude, you rock, loved your videos before, but becoming a bigger and bigger fan each with each new one....keep up the good fight..

[@everythingmatters6308]

Thanks for this. I will be removing my money from Goldman Sachs and writing to them to let them know why.

[@robinmaule8407]

Great, goodbye HSBC, farewell Lloyd’s, aurevoir credit Agricole, Sif weidersehen Commerzbank

[@-LightningRod-]

Imperial Oil, right from my hometown. A perfect example for Canada,ask anyone there are ALOT fewer Jobs Jobs Jobs in a refinery than the temporary JOBS promised for NEW construction. Sarnia Ontario Canada has suffered from downsizing for the last 30 years. There is NO Future for OIL and it ONLY fuels Economic apartheid and employs Lawyers Judges and the POLICE to create more criminals based on POVERTY or the disparity between the have jobs and those that don't. It is such an obvious control tool in fact the disparity is so great that we needed minimum wage Laws

[@s4098429]

Banks aren’t lying, cause... ‘It’s not a lie, if you believe it’

[@James_Ryan]

OK, Barclays ----> Triodos transfer complete. :)

[@JustHaveaThink]

Nice one LInus. Good on ya!! :-)

[@CrzyMan_Personal]

I really appreciate this video and I'd like KZbin to understand that. So, I'm commenting.

[@patrickmcnulty848]

I am thinking Triodos bank would like Ocean Mechanical Thermal Energy Conversion David...

[@zlamskyisky]

Excellent video, thanks! And yes, I have now moved all my family’s savings to another bank. Time for real change folks, we can all do something

[@waynecp1]

The best channel on the subject that I have seen however I have two words for you global dimming just have a think

[@AlexandreLollini]

Thanks, I 'm looking into the Crédit Cooperatif, see if it is a complete bank where I can do all the legal stuff for business and private. Email with questions sent. Will be done fast if ok. HSBC sucks anyway.

[@samlair3342]

What Kids Can Explain to Their Parents About Global Warming: Carbon dioxide, water vapor and other large atmospheric molecules have a blanketing effect on heat being radiated away from the surface of the Earth as infrared radiation. Called the Greenhouse Effect, it is a Physical Law and has helped regulate global temperature for billions of years. Indeed, at one point early in Earth’s geologic history, carbon dioxide became so depleted that our planet became a giant ball of ice (Snowball Earth). The next time that carbon dioxide was out of balance was when very prolonged volcanic basalt flows (Siberian Traps) caused so much to be pumped into the atmosphere that the oceans acidified and the global temperatures soared (The Great Dying). Other lesser extinctions caused by an over abundance of CO2 have occurred, but normally CO2 is benign. When the carbon cycle is balanced, the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere decreases and increases with the seasons and with the Milankovitch Cycle (planetary orientation to the sun). At these times, the CO2 levels lag behind global average temperatures. However, when prolonged volcanic “flood basalt” (LIPs) occur, CO2 levels amp up the Greenhouse Effect with global temperatures lagging behind carbon dioxide levels. At this time in Earth’s history, the carbon cycle is being unduly influenced by the burning of carbon that has been stored underground for eons of time. The effect is the same as the basalt flows had when they released vast amounts of carbon dioxide.

[@WadcaWymiaru]

A "physical law" told you GHG effect is just a bogus. It doesn't exist, and all gases are performing that same! When you squize them, they will warm! All!

[@smallwheels]

If this is true, why are all the quoted facts lies, we have comprehcive temperature data from the 1850s, yet all the graphs start from what ever date is best to prove the point from 1970 on, I don't care either way, but I do quite like real facts.

[@samlair3342]

Will Yarrow If we keep on headed in the direction we’re going, timelines won’t make any difference.

[@Richard482]

"At these times, the CO2 levels lag behind global average temperatures." Well yes and no: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIKWga2PipaBbaM

[@lim112666]

I shared this on LinkedIn: Many banks are heavily investing in the fossil fuel industry, and without their financial backing (with some of our invested money), some oil companies would be bankrupt. This eye-opening 11 min video shows that we can make a significant impact on climate change by switching banks. Thanks for making this video, showing us that individuals can do something that makes a difference.

[@octave912]

Great video. I have started the process of changing my banking arrangements. I had been thinking of doing this for some time but this video encouraged me to actually do it.

[@peterdollins3610]

Shared one of your videos on climate change this morning so wii wait one week to share this after I've changed my bank to Tridos or one of the of the other two banks given for the EU.

[@kudlaticus]

Simply great! Thanks for help!

[@kimshepherd9691]

Graphene has the potential to double the effectiveness solar technology and battery storage.

[@Peter-nv3wu]

Vanadium storage batteries would be even better for storage.

[@CrzyMan_Personal]

@@Peter-nv3wu The problem is getting high quality Vanadium at scale. While it is relatively common in different non-metalic compounds, it still needs to be processed. It's 5 x more common than Cobalt. But focusing on batteries made of more common elements like Silicon, Aluminum, Iron, Magnesium, Carbon, etc., will be a serious boon to grid scale energy storage. They all have their own problems, but their availability just makes them much more viable for the insane quantities that will be required.

[@موسى_7]

@@Peter-nv3wu try organic quinone and polymer flow batteries on for size.

[@aidanjg86]

Thank you, keep up the good work. Ringing the bank tomorrow to discuss swapping over accounts - Australia.

[@kaboozle]

I switched to another Dutch green bank, ASN Bank, one year ago after doing my own research. Not only is all my money now green, I’ve invested part of my savings in a 100% green stock portfolio and refinanced my house through another green daughter bank of ASN. Ironically, or actually fortuitously, this has also resulted in me having a greatly improved financial outlook which has enabled me to buy a new 100% energy and carbon neutral house! It will be finished in about a year and from then on I will also lease an EV (my current ICE lease will run out in a year), powered by the solar cells on the roof of my new house. None of this would have been possible if I hadn’t taken the time and effort to break free from the shackles of my old bank, EVIL Corp (actually, ABN AMRO but they might as well be called EVIL Corp)...

[@lilbaz8073]

Great video as usual. If you ever have the chance i'd love to see one on how much the need for extra storage adds to the cost of renewables, or one on fossil fuel subsidies. Anyway, thanks, keep them coming.

[@JustHaveaThink]

Hi Lilbaz. Thanks for your feedback. Both of those are good topics to cover, and we will look at them at some point. All the best. Dave

[@lilbaz8073]

Really wasn't expecting a reply, cheers. I'm sure you have a hundred subjects lined up that will be great. Just thought i'd make a suggestion . Keep up the good work.

[@Simply1ism]

I first saw at age eight in the 1970s that oil would be used and gone by around the year 2000. So we would need to get organised with something to fill the gap!

[@augustlandmesser1520]

Just cut off the 5.2 trillion USD of fossil fuel subsidies.

[@ronkirk5099]

I've always been a credit union user myself, but this gives me something to investigate. I'll find out if they invest in fossil fuels and if so, I'll seek out a different banking alternative. We can all "vote" with our pocket books. (ie. don't eat meat to protect the environment, don't eat seafood to protect the oceans, reduce your own consumerism, use public transportation when possible, etc) If we vote with our pocket books for the environment, corporations will get the message in their profits (or lack there of). Green banking - now that's a novel idea! Thanks, Just Give A Think!

[@dyemanoz]

Never heard of GABV. Had a look and pleased to find that my bank is a member. That's good news. The bad news is that it is one of only two in my country. It is perhaps no surprise that most members seem to be member-owned non-profit organisations such as Credit Unions and Cooperatives where the profit motive doesn't overwhelm public good.

[@donfields1234]

Kinda feels like we are trying to swim upstream against a tsunami huh, im not saying we should give up, but just remember to enjoy this whole process people. It may seem absurd to enjoy this particular process considering whats occuring and whats at stake. BUT WE CAN ENJOY ANYTHING so please learn to enjoy this as well, it will not only increase your creative effectiveness, but it will make sure we dont "waste" what quite likely will be the last years any human walks this third stone from the sun. ✌👊💪👍👌👋

[@TheStudentofTruth]

Climate change will make things worse, but humans will not go extinct. That is ridiculous.

[@wlhgmk]

If the banks were only investing with the money we deposit with them, this would be much less bad than it is. I didn't believe this when I heard it but my understanding of the situation is as follows. Suppose a bank wants to lend a million dollars to some company. The actual percentage varies from country to country but to lend this money, they have to lodge a small percentage of the million with the central bank. Incidentally, these central banks are not government institutions as we would naturally believe. Then they can lend the company the million that they don't have. I Know. Go figure. They are then making profit on lending a paper or digital notation in their computer. If they have to deposit, say 5% and are charging, say 6%pa interest, they are actually earning 20 times (100/5) the interest or 180% on the money they actually had and deposited with the central bank.What a great racket. No wonder they are uber rich. Have I got my wires crossed somewhere.

[@kofManKan]

A few giggles in this episode. Thanks. And for the content. Peeps can't say "Sure I can't do anything" now (logically anyway). Good job.

[@jean-philippeehret8434]

9:50 Thank you for not recommending :-) I live in New Zealand, I haven't found any GABV member there, unfortunately.

[@hyric8927]

I've been thinking about putting my extra cash in green investments. Thank you very much! Now to see if it's actually possible. There's no bank of that sort in the Southern Caribbean island of Aruba. However, since it's a constituent country in the Kingdom of The Netherlands (with us being Dutch nationals), I'm hoping I could make deposits in Triodos Netherlands.

[@kevingrove4379]

Hyric89 The only green investment is to learn to live not like a King and plant millions and millions of plants. The earth is getting greener already. The tiny dinwoody glacier in the winds increased again this year.🦗🦗🦗the locusts are back under ice! If you believe in climate alarmism why not stop using power? altogether, completely?

[@measterpool]

Employer matched 401k plans provide a limited choice of funds. Perform due diligence if any funds have these businesses you mentioned in the top 10 holdings.

[@MikeJonesTechno]

Great research and thanks for the handy links. Switching banks and credit cards now. Please do a follow up episode sharing any available research on insurance / pension / superannuation institutions. I only have small amount in bank cash accounts but have increasing assets in form of pension and retirement funds. Most pension products will distribute my investments in 'domestic and foreign stock markets' but I dont want any of my investments supporting or subsidising fossil fuel industries. If there is no available general global research, share tips on how we can find out where our money is going, what we should be looking for, how to choose an ethical responsible pension provider, etc.

[@rockyallen5092]

Agreed this would be useful. My existing pension provider (in the UK) has no 'ethical' investment options, so I have had to hire a financial adviser to select funds and shares based on agreed criteria and put them in a SIPP. But it's a bit time consuming and expensive. On a positive note, the FA is confident that the result will give returns no worse than a typical 'dirty' pension. And I will be able to sleep better.

[@JoseAContreras]

Loved your video. Thank you!

[@ronaldgarrison8478]

That's a powerful tactic, for those who actually have money.

[@xenocampanoli815]

Just to add one thing that everyone seems to forget about: One other way that you could impact the handling of your money by financial institutions is to decide to have as little financial savings as possible. Now I have only recently, and not all intentionally, but partially intentionally, done this. The point is NOT a joke. If you don't depend on the central infrastructure, but can depend more on family, friends, and neighbors, your resources are less available for use by organizations which you may not agree with. This may not be practical for all, but it is potentially a helpful factor, and one which also robs these central governing private entities of some of the information they want to engage their policies.

[@oricoil]

Fantastic advice!!!

[@xenocampanoli815]

Allegedly our insurance industry and military know better.

[@cdk9441]

Triodos Bank for the Netherlands (and Belgium) does not offer a current account solution for non-business customers.

[@loungelizard836]

Wow, I didn't know this! I'm going to propose this Fossil Divestment to the members of our political and environmental groups!

[@2ezTimmy]

The age of ordinary people doing nothing is over. Protest, protest, protest!

[@Peter-nv3wu]

Sadly it's far too late to protest, if we were going to protest we should have done it 40 years ago ! Going back 40 years Shell knew what was coming if we continued as we were doing and even made a documentary warning us about it, for some reason though the documentary was never given the publicity it deserved ! As for generating electricity we urgently need to consider moving away from current reactors and over to Thorium because of the benefits.

[@2ezTimmy]

@@Peter-nv3wu This is a battle we need to fight, no matter the outcome. I would also not dismiss nuclear energy. Maybe fusion in the future too

[@MEANASSJAMSTER]

protest? try OBSERVE + ADAPT!!!

[@naughtynat82]

So Tim what are you doing? Are you at nett 0 carbon?

[@2ezTimmy]

@@naughtynat82 That's impossible to do (unless you totally live off the grid). You can try to make some personal changes but any meaningful steps have to be taken by government

[@markschuette3770]

fantastic info. thats hard to find anywhere else. i'm going to look for another bank ! (i use Wells Fargo now- 2nd worst in your chart)

[@myspacetimesaucegoog5632]

Thank you for your carefully thought out fact-full videos, we're hugely grateful and they're so good to share and help educate. Investing in fossil fuel industries is indeed a nasty conundrum. I see that many fracking or drilling companies pay out very high dividends to tempt investors, and it can be easy for those who do not think things through or don't care about our planet, to invest. So good to spell out just how thing binging and profiting on fossil fuels now is collapsing future possibilities for life on earth, and to highlight alternatives.

[@JustHaveaThink]

Hi there. Many thanks for your kind comments. Much appreciated. I agree with you about the fracking industry. By coincidence this week's video looks at the satellites now orbiting the earth specifically to track fugitive methane emissions from fracking operations around the world. The correlation between methane increases and the meteoric rise of fracking since 2007 is quite striking. All the best. Dave

[@jthadcast]

can't help it but the life of brian always pops into my mind at the end of a JHaT vid. Always look on the bright side of life Always look on the light side of life

[@JustHaveaThink]

Yeah..."always look on the bright side of death, just before you take your terminal breath". They don't write 'em like that anymore LOL

[@optimisticfuture6808]

I like the concept of carbon capture and reuse as a great solution that plays “the game” with the energy providers but reduces carbon emissions. I don’t really know all of the technology and the efficiency of this tech I have to admit. As the graph shows EU and USA will clearly slowly decline emissions but the rest of the world and especially developing economies are increasing in use and exceeding our drop in use. It makes sense fossil fuels are the ultimate solar energy but by using we unleash possibly the genie in the bottle with unknown consequences.

[@Ocean-Mariner]

It's disappointing that none of the banks in New Zealand are participating in The Global Alliance for Banking on Values....

[@JustHaveaThink]

Time to push for change then? :-)

[@Ocean-Mariner]

@@JustHaveaThink Yes, I'll write to Kiwibank.

[@Ocean-Mariner]

@Just Have a Think Done..... I really appropriate your work by the way. Please keep it up.

[@rockyallen5092]

Confused: At 9:44 you suggest moving to Triodos or the Cooperative Bank, but the Cooperative Bank UK is not in the GMBV list. I am already a coop member, and I am not sure whether I need to switch.

[@JustHaveaThink]

Hi Rocky. You're right. It's a mistake by me which I only discovered while I was compiling the comments section, by which time the video was already uploading. It may be worth double checking the coops investments but I would be quite surprised if they had anything in fossil fuel. Sorry for the confusion. All the best. Dave

[@rockyallen5092]

@@JustHaveaThink Thanks. From their website: "We will not provide banking services to any business or organisation whose core activity contributes to: Global climate change, via the extraction or production of fossil fuels (oil, coal, gas and shale gas), with an extension to the distribution of those fuels that have a higher global warming impact (e.g. tar sands and certain biofuels). The manufacture of chemicals that are persistent in the environment, bio-accumulative in nature or linked to long-term health concerns. The unsustainable harvest of natural resources, including timber and fish. The development of genetically modified organisms where there is evidence of uncontrolled release into the environment, negative impacts on developing countries, or patenting, e.g. of indigenous knowledge. The development of nanotechnology in circumstances that risk damaging the environment or compromising human health." Being cynical, it says "not provide banking services" not "will not hold shares in" but it looks promising.

[@JustHaveaThink]

Hi Rocky. Does sound like a 'qualified' thumbs up. There may be info on investments at bank track.com

[@waynecartwright7276]

how do we find out about our pension fund investment policy?

[@ashoakwillow]

...another great video thanks Dave, I hadn’t heard of GABV before..

[@JustHaveaThink]

Thanks James. Me neither to be honest!

[@hendrikus94]

Thanks for the video. I love watching interesting new techniques and initiatives that are making the world a better place.

[@oliver7011]

Verity credit union! I loved them before and I’m happy to see they are a green bank!

[@Amuzic_Earth]

7:00 There is one in India. So, it's not entirely absent in the BRICS countries. I hope there will be more of these once people are aware. I for one, have to come to know of this after watching this video.

[@_a.z]

It seems that each household will generate its own power, charge its vehicle batteries and only use the grid for large surges, such as operating a shower. The power supplyers will then just become administrative offices and providing power to industry, if required. The revolution is happening! I'm a late adopter, but it will get easier and cheaper with time. I'm pretty sure we can do what it takes, but many countries will lag behind, catching up only when it is economic to do so!

[@ilamiddleton741]

"Atomic power is a hell of a way to boil water", and to think that 80 years of testing and accidents don't matter is very telling.

[@laurencevanhelsuwe3052]

Another interesting video.. but I wished you had a really hard, good look at what climate scientist Timothy Garrett has to say about the link between civilisation size/complexity and energy/resource consumption. Knowing how much you appreciate the hard scientific angle, I'm sure Garrett's insights will give you plenty of pause for thought. BTW. I'm also a Triodos client, and no, such reforms in the financial sector aren't going to save us.

[@Tclack]

I was looking into this a few months ago and here in the US, I found one "Clean Energy Credt Union". They seem to offer loans for things like home solar, home efficiency improvments, loans for electric cars. It's not in your list (or on gabv.org) which is the ONE flag for me, it seems like they'd satisfy the criteria. I don't know if you monitor comments on these "older" videos and if you have thoughts on how to vet it.

[@Youbetternowatchthis]

Since it would be absolutely ridiculous to listen to financial advice on youtube I will absolutely not research my current bank and switch to a greener bank as soon as possible. Thank you for you not advice on that!

[@urmeti]

The use of fossil fuels is not the problem....allowing an exponential population growth is! Our most cherished virtue will be a causation of our inevitable demise.

[@AtheistEve]

Births per female are declining across the globe.

[@kenjohnson6101]

Next time 350.org organizes a global strike demanding "action" on climate change, maybe they could actually take action by doing something like this. Just about everything I hear on the topic of climate change is about "problems". I'm glad to hear something about concrete "solutions" for a change, and I hope Think will continue to post more of the same.

[@rambo_lambo_bear6855]

Harrowing stuff. You might have already covered this but what do you think is the best way to mitigate the job losses and other problems created by such a radical shift in our energy sector?

[@jamiefox54]

Thanks for this. In response to this video I am going to pull my money out of Barclays except for a Bond account where I'll have to wait until 2021. I couldn't find out if Metrobank (which is already my primary bank) has any fossil fuel business. I tried looking on their website, calling them and speaking to several people, and googling it. No answer yet. Does anyone know?

[@Travlinmo]

Thanks for this video. I found it interesting that none of my US credit unions are listed with the backtrack.org. I really don’t know if that means they don’t invest and loan to oil OR if the webpage doesn’t track credit unions.

[@JustHaveaThink]

I would ask them directly Charlie, if you can?

[@chrisparsonson420]

Hey are you suggesting that there's no bank usable in South Africa!!!!

[@willemdezeeuw5918]

Triodos is Dutch! Anyway, great clips!

[@stevegardner6643]

Thanks for the well-done, informative message. I have shared it to my facebook page, 'Steve Rides For Climate', where I am trying to post factual, scientific information. Personally, my savings here in America, are mostly in mutual funds, which are highly diversified and probably include many fossil fuel companies. Need to look for solid performing funds that are not invested in these companies.

[@pascalw.paradis8954]

Imagine a 🌎 world where EVERYONE,,,,,,, can't see it,, sorry. Off the cliff we goooooo......

[@sarakendrikkendrik7335]

Amazing ...love this video

[@johngage5391]

Put a price on climate pollution to reduce it efficiently. Rebate all the money collected to all households on an equal basis each month to protect household purchasing power. Use border adjustments to protect US jobs and strongly encourage all other countries to match our carbon price. It's called carbon fee and dividend, and it will reduce US and global greenhouse gas emissions rapidly. We can make this possible by working together to ask our elected leaders to act. Write Congress right now: cclusa.org/write

[@h2opower]

Awesome video 😎

[@mplaw77]

CO2 is plant food. If you are really worried about CO2 build a nuclear fission plant every week. France is about 60 to 70% nuclear. You could easily go to 200% nuclear and use the excess power to product hydrogen gas for fuel, a bit of coal and hydrogen and you have methanol only one carbon for conventional liquid fuel cars and trucks.

[@marksharman8029]

Brilliant

[@DavidSanchez-vx4bv]

If the "regular" people decides to mover away from a Bank, because it's doing que investment in fossil fuels rather than because the interest rate offered or better credit conditions it would be new for me... Let's see it😁

[@bobtailvw22]

How do you propose to make anything without fossil fuels?

[@medokn99]

Now You Know brought me here

[@reklawazag]

The very simple answer to stop funding is to put your funds into crypto currency. Ie Bitcoin. Not only is it safe from governments but it would completely pull the rug from underneath the centralised banking system.

[@enemyofthestatewearein7945]

That would be great in theory, the problem is bitcoin is essentially made of (mostly fossil fuel produced) electricity - that which is used for 'mining' crypto using lots of computer power.

[@unbreakableyin2522]

No......

[@ronaldgarrison8478]

I only use fancy words when I can juxtapose them to something else that will hit you aside the head like an errant 2 X 4.

[@ronaldronald8819]

Brilliant thanks. It might well be with such sollid, cristal clear, financial advice. Your next job offer will come from Goldman Sachs. Greatings from Holland ( p.s. wooden shoes are environmently vriendly :)

[@xxwookey]

Triodos sounds lovely, and I'm all in for fossil-free finaces (I have invested a lot in abundance and energy4all projects and am currently moving my pension fund) but I just looked and I get to pay £3/month for the privilege of non-wanky banking. As a (tight) Englishman used to free banking for the last 40 years that's quite a step. Can't Triodos make enough money to run an account by lending money to decent organisations? I think I looked at this some years ago, and the same thing put me off.

[@JustHaveaThink]

And right there, ladies and gentlemen, we have our entire western problem with climate change encapsulated in one neat and tidy paragraph. Essentially, we're all terribly concerned about global warming here in the comforatble west, and of course we're all extremely keen to get involved and do something positive...right up until the point at which it presents something of an inconveninece. Thanks for demonstrating this so clearly for us xxwookey. All the best. Dave

[@xxwookey]

@@JustHaveaThink It's more complicated than that. I'm fine with quite a lot of inconvenience. I've been using the train to get round Europe for most of a decade whilst (most of) the rest of my co-workers fly. I stay up till 4am to attend US conferences remotely, and get up at 1am to attend Asian ones. I've spent a very large fraction of the weekends in the last decade insulating and airtighting my house. I sit around with a duvet jacket on and get cold feet rather than turn the heating on. I just spent 3 rather soggy days camping in London. So 'inconvenience' is definitely the wrong word. And it's not even cost per se - I just spent £1900 on insulation, and am planning to spend best part of £4000 more to finish my EWI. But monthly fees is something I find very hard to stomach. I try very hard to avoid them. Perhaps that's not very rational (it is an ongoing service), but the question is, why should ethical banking cost more than normal banking - is it so much less profitable?

[@JustHaveaThink]

Well I certainly retract my rhetoric in your case then...you clearly have gone to extreme lengths to make personal sacrifices towards the goal of climate mitigation. I wish more people would follow your example. I do still think you're being a bit harsh on Triodos though. They might be a bank but they are absolutely tiny compared to the financial behemoths like HSBC, Barclays and the like. The monthly fee covers admin stuff that the big banks fleece out of us anyway through tiny reductions in interest payments, which on a massive scale make a big difference, much like Richard Pryor discovered in the original Superman movie (showing my age a bit there!). My view, for what it's worth, is that the monthly fee is an honest and transparent charge and that it's worth paying in order to support organisations like Triodos through their early years of development. All the best. Dave

[@samslog]

The problems with finance are they are parasitic in their pursuit of high returns. Fossil fuel industry is very heavily subsidised (governments give them welfare) investment banks love industries like this. Take a coal mine for example, its subsidised from cradle to grave, the planning, the land use, the water use, transport of materials, fuel, training, taxes, end of life. Otherwise it would not be feasible. Of the plethora of outcomes ranging from 'just cut the fossil fuel funding and let the markets sort it out' to 'wheres my green new deal?' what is happening now is beyond worse than all of them its truly dystopia. Mind you HSBC were never bothered by unethical investments, like laundering money for Mexican drug cartels.

[@valhala56]

iF YOU THINK THAT BANKS, ANY BANKS THAT ARE CAPITALISTIC WILL DO MUCH OF ANYTHING THEN YOU ARE OFF YOUR ROCKER.

[@TCRgalaxy]

It can’t. WASF🔥🌎🔥

[@franklinrussell4750]

I had another idea for a future episode of our extinction experience. Could we see all the propaganda that is being presented to people saying that it is normal and natural for the Earth to be heating up? There is a real effort going on to make us think an Earth without Icecaps would be a tropical vacation.

[@JustHaveaThink]

Hi Franklin. Yes indeed, that is all part of the communication challenge. I think the vast majority of people are desperately looking for someone to tell them that things aren't really really really bad. It seems like people in the West can handle the concept of 'quite bad but also quite far away', but absolutely cannot handle the concept of 'catastrophically awful and right on your doorstep right now', so the propagandists don't have to try very hard to convince people to delude themselves and ignore the problem.

[@climateclimateclimate-kend2017]

You can always tell when someone is pulling the wool over your eyes! they use their hands to emphasise the point they are trying to make!

[@PatrickBronson]

Ken D. Speak for yourself. Do you think he's lying to you or trying to deceive you?

[@RussCR5187]

Ken. Wow. How in the world do you come to that conclusion?

[@climateclimateclimate-kend2017]

@@PatrickBronson When scientists ( or claim to be ) start their research where it fits in with their agenda, that is not science! it's fraud, so yes! i Know he's lying.

[@climateclimateclimate-kend2017]

Climate is cyclical & planet driven that's why, let us scientifically study the effects that planet Neptune has every 41 years on climate, ok! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1/= 2018 :- Farmers battle worst DROUGHT in 100 years. 2/= 1977 :- California's DROUGHT affects the world. 3/= 1936 :- Areas of intense DROUGHT. 4/= 1895 :- Federation DROUGHT Australia. 5/= 1854 :- The great DROUGHT of United States. 6/= 1813 :- Great DROUGHT - journal Asiatic society Bengal. 7/= 1772 :- DROUGHT Chile - vineyards - crop fields. Pre-Industrialization beyond this date. 8/= 1731 :- DROUGHT episodes w/pampas Argentina S/America. 9/= 1690 :- DROUGHT clusters - S/W/Canada. 10/= 1649 :- Global Crisis War - CLIMATE CHANGE CATASTROPHE. 11/= 1608 :- Jamestown tragedy - 600 year tree rings. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ That is now 410 years of cyclical DROUGHT episodes caused by just one outer planet "NEPTUNE" it is also 160 years before coal mining, The IPCC claims that pollution from anthropogenic activity influences earth's climate, so my question to you Paddy is obvious?.

[@agnelsanwin9874]

Omg in a such big country like India no mainstream banks are members except a simple banking enterprise 🤐

[@JustHaveaThink]

Yes. I think we need to change Mr Modi's direction...or change Mr Modi

[@grantbotto3504]

Excellent video as usual. Ya know...... Taking the banks to court might be a good idea.... Go fund me page.... I'm in for $1000 canadian..... Seriously, fuck the banks. Times up.

[@benneden2580]

SPELL CHECK @ 6.37. Otherwise great video as usual

[@rf-bh3fh]

Must invent a profitable industry that sequesters carbon from both the atmosphere and the CO2 sinks. Think on that !!!!!

[@thalesnemo2841]

@robert forsythe More magical thinking if one actually works out the maths and physics! See the works of Dr Kevin Anderson.

[@AtheistEve]

robert forsythe Why can’t we just plant vast tracts of forest?

[@AudioPervert1]

Lets not pay for anything ... The greenwashing industry is just as capitalist and speculative as the last one ...

[@bellongia1]

We were suppose to have run out of snow by now. Oops better make make it 2050

[@AtheistEve]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5-tpnSpobaDl7s for information on your snow no-show hypothesis.

[@franklinrussell4750]

Polar Bears may be gone in four to five years.