Thank you for posting this video. It was very informative and done most respectfully. I didn't know how the casket was prepared for sea burial so this definitely helped. Now, to anyone watching this video, here is little tiny fun fact tidbit that no one will be telling you. I'll start off by saying this is my personal experience as I witnessed it myself firsthand. In the summer of 1976, I was 20 years old and about a year and a half into my Navy enlistment. I was stationed on a Gearing class FRAM II destroyer, home port Norfolk, VA, when we were tasked with a burial at sea. Now, the only positive thing about this sea burial was the veterans family was *not* onboard (thank God!). The casket was brought onboard, we cast off then made our way down the channel and out to sea. Upon reaching the 12 mile limit we slowed to just barely maintaining headway. Those who had never witnessed a burial at sea before (like myself) gathered on the fantail (including the helo deck [minus the helo]) for a brief yet dignified ceremony. At the conclusion of the ceremony, the casket was lowered into the sea and as it slowly floated off behind the ship it became apparent that it was not sinking. The captain eventually made the decision (I did not envy him this in the slightest) to have the Master-at-Arms get a M-16 from the armory and (I hope you're sitting down for this next part) shoot holes in the casket until it sank!! That day I vowed not to be buried at sea. That was my first, and only, burial at sea ceremony and, as I'm sure you can imagine, it made a lasting impression on me that I can still see in my minds eye to this day. This is why, when I die, I will be buried at the Dallas-Fort Worth National Cemetery, thank you very much.
@davidatovar2 жыл бұрын
My father was a Korean war navy veteran and he told me often he wanted to be buried at sea when he passed, unfortunately this option wasn't brought to light. He was cremated and his ashes were divided in two I received half and another family member got the other half. I was determined to grant his wishes and being a avid deep sea fishermen I carried his ashes in a weighed paper container which I hoped would get him down and release him into the Pacific Ocean as it deteriorated. Somewhere passed Catalina Island. I do wish he could have received this type of honor he deserved.
@fritziepisarski86815 ай бұрын
This was enlightening. I didn’t know. Thank you for your service . Rest in peace 💐
@kerrijohnstone75882 жыл бұрын
I am a veteran from Australia, may I say well done. You are respectful, diligent, and you show your veterans the respect they deserve and they have earned, Salut!
@andrew26774 ай бұрын
I love how respectful the crane operators were
@GorillaCrewWarGamingАй бұрын
You can bet some of them were military too! I am retired now, but you can rest assured I will always salute a fallen brother.
@jerryyancey6185 Жыл бұрын
I was part of a military funeral from 1970 to 1972 in Minneapolis, Minnesota. We were all active duty sailors. I'm now 80 years old and still remember those days. 01 May 2023.
@ronnieam33Ай бұрын
I volunteered for funeral detail while in the Navy in San Diego from 1989 to 1994 and my detail would preform at least 3 or 4 every Friday, mostly retired or veterans, and it is something I haven't forgotten in the past 35 years.
@a.h.s51522 жыл бұрын
My bud and co worker that died an few years ago was an marine and was cremated he wanted his ashes thrown in the ocean that's what he had done, he was an Vietnam veteran, I enjoyed hearing his stories.
@dawnmyers9454 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for caring for our Veterans. Great video! Appreciate knowing the process of preparing the body and casket for burial at sea.
@annafiorentin71209 ай бұрын
What's so caring about it they put holes in the casket so they can be fish bait. Would you want your loved one put in a casket has been destroyed inside that you probably had to pay for. Trash bag lining and laundry soap. Not me I'll be upset. No respect at all. Well I forgot about the 150 lb bag of sand.
@robr23892 жыл бұрын
Interesting. My late Dad was full body buried at sea in the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Pompano Beach, Florida. 34 years ago yesterday. He was a US Navy veteran of the Korean War. The Navy didn't participate in his burial. We took him out on a private drift fishing boat. Someone asked if embalmed. Our Dad was. He was not casketed. He was in a shroud. The funeral director told us they used 150 pounds of lead shot in the shroud. They just slid him out from under the American flag and folded it and presented the flag to our Mom. It was a nice service. We fished - trolled - on the way out and back in. That's what he would've wanted.
@carondean29602 жыл бұрын
Much respect to your dad and a lovely thing done by his family to give him the send off he would have wanted . I actually thought all bodies were buried at sea like this , it seems a good way to do it . Thank you for sharing I'm glad you did .
@robr23892 жыл бұрын
@@carondean2960 Thank You. Yeah, it was what he always wanted. Burial at sea. He got it. The idea used to scare me when I was little. Not as I got older. Someone mentioned they didn't know they did casketed at sea burials. Neither did I. I had always thought it was done either by tightly wrapping or shrouding and weights.
@karenroy90452 жыл бұрын
I would like to thank him for his service.
@robr23892 жыл бұрын
@@karenroy9045 Thank You Karen. I appreciate that. In some small way, I suppose the US Navy did have a hand in it. I was active duty at the time. Wore my tropical whites for the burial. The funeral director and assistant folded the flag, presented it to me and I presented it to our Mom. Hadn't thought of this in a long time.
@alvisjenkins13052 жыл бұрын
Thinking now about all of the human bodies buried or lost in the sea, and I eat of fish taken from the sea and tastes so good.
@Stargazer69 Жыл бұрын
This is fascinating. I had no idea that people were buried at Sea in full caskets. It's kind of creepy to think that there are a bunch of deceased people at the bottom of the ocean.
@1320_KEN Жыл бұрын
Shid not anymore it’s probably just clothes now sadly
@danrussell34399 ай бұрын
@@1320_KENno cloths the body is placed in a biodegradable bag
@WhatsDaveUpTo8 ай бұрын
why is that creepy? where do you think people end up when their ships sink as ships have been sinking since humans started building them
@ericwashington11006 ай бұрын
No creepier than being buried in the ground where you walk every day. So many new housing developments are being built on top of grave yards every day. That's whats creepy
@automatedelectronics60622 жыл бұрын
It's good that the military caught up with the preparations. Even back in the early 2,000's, often with a burial at sea, using a casket, it would float. After the ship pulled ahead and the floating casket was no longer visible to anyone on deck, sailors out of sight on the aft deck would shoot the casket until it sank.
@chrislewis72382 жыл бұрын
How this casket was prepared was exactly how it was done back in the 80's when we did a burial at sea. A floater (as we called them) was a rarity but the Gunner's mates were always standing by..
@scorpio54williams96 Жыл бұрын
Oh Wow
@raymondvia37862 жыл бұрын
Watch the KZbin video of the sea burial of Loyce Edward Deen. He was buried at sea in his shot up TBM Avenger from the fantail of the USS Lexington I think.
@matthewcaughey88982 жыл бұрын
The aircraft was still flyable. What happened was the powered rear turret was absolutely wrecked and despite their best efforts the maintainers and mechanics couldn’t get his remains out of the plane and be respectful about it. So to give him a respectful send off they pushed the plane overboard with his remains still stuck in the turret. Of note they draped an American flag over the turret wreck
@theorangecircle10662 жыл бұрын
Appreciated this video. Thank you for posting, and for the family allowing you to share this video with viewers.
@mapmanlxii17152 жыл бұрын
Wow tremendous amount of extra work for the funeral directors. Thank you for your service!
@l7846 Жыл бұрын
Don't worry, the funeral 'home is getting paid for that time!
@haukepowers84912 жыл бұрын
excellent wonderful video...very impressed...I had no idea the Navy was so exacting as per the requirements of the casket and body prep...
@calvinbealer72642 жыл бұрын
Thank You Very Much for Sharing This.
@jeffreyowens89402 жыл бұрын
very interesting, thanks for your service!
@KnightRider19832 жыл бұрын
You would think the casket companies would make a casket especially for this so the funeral directors wouldnt have to do the extra work of ripping out the lining, sand, etc.
@Funeralsyourway2 жыл бұрын
It would not be worth it. Burial at sea like this is not that common
@fifty9forty32 жыл бұрын
A casket can be ordered from the manufacturer minus the interior, and they might even vent it if requested. A military vessel is not necessary for this service, acquiring one would require added government paperwork, and if one is used it need not, and probably would not be an aircraft carrier.
@starbuc88one2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this. Very informative and fascinating.
@caroljohnston4018 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service sir ❤
@lindagomez31142 жыл бұрын
How wonderful they took him by Aircraft Carrier. God Bless
@BostonSteve9222 жыл бұрын
Both very interesting and sad
@lynnleigha5802 жыл бұрын
Is there a specific spot they release the casket? If so, is it one big underwater graveyard, with caskets scattered about? Is that part of the water off limits to boats and divers?
@victoriahazard11812 жыл бұрын
Good?
@robr23892 жыл бұрын
I can tell you this Lynn. When we buried at sea our Dad 34 years ago, the drift fishing boat captain told us the ocean depth was nearly 900 feet. I do remember the charter boat captain had to record the latitude and longitude coordinates because the EPA required that. That depth is far too deep for any recreational diver to reach.
@chrislewis72382 жыл бұрын
No specific spot , as long as its far enough away from shore and deep enough.
@DonteCarroll Жыл бұрын
Is the body secured? It seems like it will move etc once it is overboard
@larryboysen5911 Жыл бұрын
He is not alone, when one thinks of all the sailors which went down with their vessels in the sea battles throughout history...as well as civilian ship disasters!
@WhatsDaveUpTo8 ай бұрын
you think they're having get togethers down there? 🤣
@Inspirechattv2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful content love it
@adamnewell5807 Жыл бұрын
I love your standing rock shirt!
@billphillips32892 жыл бұрын
The drill. Helps if you set it the correct way. Everything else is wonderful.
@JenX19752 жыл бұрын
Someone always telling someone how to do their job. Typical man
@iMatchEnergyLikeABoss2 жыл бұрын
Question please, after placement into the casket, is the body then secured down?
@virginiafry9854 Жыл бұрын
Metal casket!?!?!? That can’t be easily biodegradable! Why wouldn’t wood be better, seeing that no plastic etc is allowed in the casket? I can understand not using only a shroud (decomposition).
@jamesw30179 ай бұрын
Over time the metal will rust, what doesn't deteriorate will become a part of a reef
@Muffins-nz7bw7 ай бұрын
Rip ❤😢 To our Navy men ❤
@roybeau45992 жыл бұрын
If preparations are needing to be environmentally friendly within the caskets' materials. Can a embalmed body be buried at sea?
@Funeralsyourway2 жыл бұрын
yes - most if not all are embalmed. They are often flown to the final destination before being placed on the military ship.
@curb91702 жыл бұрын
Interesting there is no Name / Info Placed on the casket.
@WhatsDaveUpTo8 ай бұрын
It can take a day or two for the ship to get to the burial spot. Do they keep it in a giant fridge or freezer on the ship during this time so it doesnt start smelling really bad?
@dipsychology Жыл бұрын
So we are filling the see with metal caskets too ……
@WhatsDaveUpTo8 ай бұрын
lol filling the sea? Do you know how big and deep the "sea" is?
@krismarsiglia90952 жыл бұрын
Could a cotton or hemp cloth not be used in place of leaf bags??
@chrismc410 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@AuntBee59 Жыл бұрын
That’s amazing.🙏❤️
@squalli12972 жыл бұрын
I've been in the death industry over 40 years & didn't know they use metal caskets for burials at sea. I'm not sure if embalming is allowed prior since formaldehyde is a carcinogen. If they are embalmed, I wonder if crustaceans would still feed if they managed to get through the holes & if they'd know the difference. It's just a thought.
@chrislewis72382 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine what it would be like if a wooden casket was used ? Human bones washing up on shore all over the place. You're worried about the embalming fluid? When I was in the Navy I know what we were allowed the throw in the ocean that's why I don't eat anything that comes out off it.
@MrKwelrich2 жыл бұрын
@@chrislewis7238 wow! The best thing to do is not to eat anything.
@josephbennett34822 жыл бұрын
Bodies for disposal at sea aren't embalmed they're just washed and wrapped up without any other preparations.
@nandolopes9897 Жыл бұрын
@@josephbennett3482 that is why she had concerns about the odour.
@sillyrful Жыл бұрын
@Squalli look at the answer that yes most are embalmed from the video poster
@janeordway48412 жыл бұрын
Are the Bodies embalmed?
@kayyjohnson8325 Жыл бұрын
No
@stacie46352 жыл бұрын
Is all that water pressure going open casket since y’all added wholes
@peterleigh7485 Жыл бұрын
Can't the casket makers just make a casket without the trimmings ready to be ready for burial
@carondean29602 жыл бұрын
So sorry and forgive me for my ignorance but why a metal casket with plastic ties when a wooden one would break down over time as would cotton ties . Much respect . Caron.
@IP0Monsturd2 жыл бұрын
Anything metal would corrode quickly in salt water. The casket that JFK was placed in for his return to Washington from Dallas was disposed of in exactly this way.
@chrislewis72382 жыл бұрын
The straps are made out of metal too. Wood not good! You don't want the box to break down before the body.
@carondean29602 жыл бұрын
@@chrislewis7238 ahh I can understand that. In these days tho you'd have thought they would have come up with something that wouldn't like at the bottom for eternity. Thanks for replying x
@bas69832 жыл бұрын
Wood is floating and you would need a huge amount of extra weight to make sure the casket is sinking. In the early days the burrial would have been done in a “bag”
@chrislewis72382 жыл бұрын
@@carondean2960 The thin gauge steel used to make caskets will disintegrate over time.
@nhiemtran97752 жыл бұрын
Very interesting.
@visionplayer102 жыл бұрын
Very interesting… no idea who they are but a hero and thank you for helping keep us safe! 🫡
@jessieramos167625 күн бұрын
Why are they so worried about the biodegradable linings of the casket when the casket itself, including the hardware, will take forever to degrade? Why don't they use a simple pine box, which will eventually degrade and break apart with the movement of the ocean?
@melissagayheart77162 жыл бұрын
Thank u for showing this, i always wondered how a burial at sea was done if the person isn't cremated...does all the natural stuff mean u can't do embalming? If they can't have embalming can the body be ok enough to do calling hours? Like decaying wise ...I couldn't think of a more respectful way to say that last part lol
@patrickdempsey98862 жыл бұрын
May he rest in the peace of God
@waterheaterservices2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@danielebrparish42716 ай бұрын
I don't understand why they went to using a casket for a sea burial. In WWII they were sewn into a canvas body bag that contained a 5 inch shell or some other weight and slid off of a ramp into the sea. That seemed more dignified to me.
@Unlike2302 жыл бұрын
Wow very interesting
@dennisbouma372 жыл бұрын
How does it work when you die on the ship on a long mission?
@WhatsDaveUpTo8 ай бұрын
Then you get covered in a shroud with weights and dumped overboard.
@joachimwolfram24602 жыл бұрын
Hallo ich habe da eine Frage zu. warum musste der Sand aus dem Plastikbeutel raus genommen werden ?? vielen dank, und gruß aus flensburg-deutschland
@WhatsDaveUpTo8 ай бұрын
Denn Plastik ist nicht biologisch abbaubar und nur biologisch abbaubares Material darf im Meer vergraben werden
@mylittlerebornfarm7562 жыл бұрын
Also The flag should have been pressed
@l7846 Жыл бұрын
Whats the b e significance of using that term repeatedly, "full body burial"? There's such a thing as partial?
@carolynjustagagirl23159 ай бұрын
Yes there is ..
@glenperry90482 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to order the casket without the lining? Would this save some of the expense?
@Funeralsyourway2 жыл бұрын
I do not think so. If the purpose of your question is to save money - it would make no difference
@raulbajen30822 жыл бұрын
thank you
@DonteCarroll Жыл бұрын
Why do you all put the holes in the casket?
@vvmandosam655 Жыл бұрын
To sink it!! Duh!
@vvmandosam655 Жыл бұрын
To sink it!! Duh!
@DonteCarroll Жыл бұрын
@@vvmandosam655 who asked you?
@simonwatson41532 жыл бұрын
If a seaman on HMS Victory died he was sewn into his hammock with a cannon ball at his feet and committed to the deep.
@chrismc410 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much continued to be done that way for centuries, I think even today. Now, they have shrouds or sailcloth made specifically for the purpose.
@ShelbyFarrow2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I don't at all want to sound hard-hearted or disrespectful, but doesn't full body burials at sea amount to a lot of caskets littering the bottom of the ocean floor? I had always thought a full body burial at sea was the body wrapped in a flag and not a casket.
@Noneck19992 жыл бұрын
To me, it should be just the body.,😝
@WhatsDaveUpTo8 ай бұрын
you know how many sunken ships are down there? Also how HUGE the ocean is?
@ShelbyFarrow8 ай бұрын
@@WhatsDaveUpTo I know but that doesn't mean we need to make it worse. A military full body burial should be a body wrapped in a flag and tied together.
@louismiller72 жыл бұрын
How dose a Korean USS Navy Veteran go about finding out about being buried at sea .?
@streetcarjay2 жыл бұрын
God of our fathers, known of old,Lord of our far-flung battle line,Beneath whose awful hand we holdDominion over palm and pine-Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet,Lest we forget-lest we forget!'
@JenX19752 жыл бұрын
If there were a God, there wouldn't be war amongst other things
@sailawaybob2 жыл бұрын
i'm all for Our Vets but i can't see dumping another piece of metal into the ocean is a good idea , now saying that why not have a service for the Vet than cremate the body . i'm not sure who would want to be fish bait anyways . but going back to the casket if they continue this burial why doesn't the casket company actually build a burial at sea coffin already designed for the purpose.
@chrismc4102 жыл бұрын
You can use sailcloth and sufficient weight. That's the way its been done for centuries.
@WhatsDaveUpTo8 ай бұрын
youre either going to the worms, the fish, or the fire. There is no escape from this fate. Pick one.
@jumpingjeffflash99467 ай бұрын
I thought the person had to be sewn into sail cloth?
@frankeasterling34022 жыл бұрын
Is the body embalmed?
@qp2136 Жыл бұрын
The thought of sea life handling ( for lack of a better word) my loved one is unimaginable.
@edgarangus70772 жыл бұрын
For me this question is very important because i speak for family values. Why sea burial is executed when there is no war? Let it be bring the body back to home where loveones are waiting and can see the corps for the last time and place it to the more proper resting place? Navy ship of every kind must have the morge. Is the navy have not that consideration of the feeling of loveones left by the dead? This can be done only when war is raging. THIS IS NOT GOOD! HOPE YOU WONT STEP ON THIS PATH.
@skeeta10682 жыл бұрын
These are people who died at home with their loved ones. They requested to be buried at sea. Not active duty servicemen.
@jerrydavenport76452 жыл бұрын
Why not 8 🔔 instead of taps and rifles
@MauriceRivers4152 жыл бұрын
Adding these caskets to the ocean is wasteful (in my opinion) and just adds to more pollution. Wrap people in a shroud with lead shot, and let them sink naturally without all the bells & whistles. Eventually, the sea animals will feast, and the circle of life will go on.
@fifty9forty32 жыл бұрын
President Kennedy's metal transport casket from Texas to D.C. was deep sixed. There is a story about that on the net.
@juliefreeman41992 жыл бұрын
LEAD anything in water will KILL marine life. Do your research.
@stacie46352 жыл бұрын
The sand probably all thru water by now
@JenX19752 жыл бұрын
I strongly agree. I think if you want to be buried at sea then you must be cremated
@la.vagibond2 жыл бұрын
Led is a toxic heavy metal so.... If a full body burial at sea is what the soldier wants that's what he/she should get! That person earned the right to be honored in that way. Every soldier gave something of themselves when they served. Some gave everything they had including their life to protect the rights of all Americans. Even yours to make an ignorant comment.
@relaxpeople2601 Жыл бұрын
I WONDER WHY THEY BUY A BOX WITH EVERYTHING AND THEY DON'T ASK FOR IT WITHOUT ANYTHING SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO DOUBLE THE PRICE TO THE AGENCIES THAT PAY FOR THEM... APPARENTLY AFTER THEY BUY THE BOX THEY HAVE TO MODIFY IT BY PASSING THIS COST TO THE AGENCIES THAT BUY IT... SURELY THESE COMPANIES CAN SELL THE BOX WITH NOTHING INSIDE
@paulcousins11689 ай бұрын
Years gone buy the body was sown into a canvis bag and the last stitch went through the nose .
@dalegrays805310 ай бұрын
They will b back in the Resurrection Rev21:3-5 sorry for your loss!
@WhatsDaveUpTo8 ай бұрын
there will be no zombies
@josh447792 жыл бұрын
Gonna ruffle some feathers.....why was usama bin laden buried at sea like a hero by the navy?🤔
@peggywalters75562 жыл бұрын
Muslims are not buried at sea!
@josh447792 жыл бұрын
@@peggywalters7556 UBL absolutely was,ask me how I know?!😒😏
@peggywalters75562 жыл бұрын
I'll stand by my statement! Have a nice day!
@josh447792 жыл бұрын
You stand by your lack of knowledge,got it😁 good night ma'am
@josh447792 жыл бұрын
Did you actually delete your original comment or benefit of the doubt is KZbin acting up?🤔😂😒
@an0n71 Жыл бұрын
Please STOP body burial at sea! It’s unsanitary to people who consume seafoods! This is not actually in respectable way. Smh
@joelbell90822 жыл бұрын
Different Strokes for different folks but I don't want to be sleeping with the fishes
@WhatsDaveUpTo8 ай бұрын
you wont be sleeping when your dead. You will be totally non existent. Like before you were born. From your "perspective" (not that you will have one, it will be as if they are burying someone else at sea if that makes sense.
@victoriahazard11812 жыл бұрын
U going to put him in a box like that,that doesn't seem right for someone that served his country he deserves better than that🇺🇲
@Noneck19992 жыл бұрын
🙄⚰️
@christophermccarthy6192 Жыл бұрын
This is only done by the deceased's request or their families
@mylittlerebornfarm7562 жыл бұрын
But you are still putting rubbish into the sea..meaning the casket..it should be all biodegradable I feel.
@chuckrobinson5992 жыл бұрын
Steel biodegrades in sea water.
@IP0Monsturd2 жыл бұрын
Salt water is cruel to steel.
@robertbrooks70012 жыл бұрын
Sa Salt Water!
@edgeracing28052 жыл бұрын
Libs🤦🏻♂️
@jameskerby33772 жыл бұрын
It Is...thr casket quickly succumbs to the salt water...breaks up and slowly becomes nothing. The Deseased is likewise consumed by all that I'd within the season, if a ground burial the insects quickly devour it and the bones slowly disintegrate, some quicker than others as the stronger sea life snap them and excellerate the process . Not so slowly the remains are..No More. It is all in accord with the Articles of The Sea....and all who sail are aware of the process. God Save The United States 🇺🇸 And all who defend that nation. This Old Soldier of The British Army 🇬🇧 SALUTES those who have served and those who will serve . God Bless snd thank you for making the world a safer place. J.H.Kerby.GSM RCT Rtd 🇬🇧
@janearchambault6081 Жыл бұрын
Save money! Cremation!
@annafiorentin71209 ай бұрын
Using trash bags and laundry soap. This is so wrong I wonder how many loved ones are watching this video and say what the heck we should have never let them do this. This is total disrespect of a military person that has passed away. Was there a dryer sheet she pulled out before the casket was destroyed inside. Just so disrespectful. Family members need to put a stop to this.
@WhatsDaveUpTo8 ай бұрын
lol you sound clueless about the world and what happens when a person dies.
@janiceyoung72732 жыл бұрын
It seems a cold way to leave this earth.
@joannedonaldson58189 ай бұрын
the casket is medal and plastic.then that wont be environmentally friendly if your embalmed thats not healthy for the ocean neither. So i would not do this shroud is best and the body naked and wrapped not embalmed this is the way it needs to be done clothes dont break down neither
@RaulRodriguez-bq4nj2 жыл бұрын
What is the purpose of that show, after all you are death, so...
@charles26752 жыл бұрын
The sharks
@lenorasmithson88992 жыл бұрын
Cremation
@Funeralsyourway2 жыл бұрын
That is another option but not what this deceased wanted.
@hiccup17mark842 жыл бұрын
This is why I don’t eat fish of any kind or tuna. My grandfather told me fish eat meat 🤮
@chrismc410 Жыл бұрын
Everything gets eaten by something else, even the minerals after a cremation if scattered.
@gobstoppa16332 жыл бұрын
ITS ALL ABOUT BUBBLE,S"".
@Nate-ly6ej2 жыл бұрын
Woman u need a redbull
@Hrvojeatyoutube2 жыл бұрын
I hope you will injoy video with lough.😂.Everything is a f.. buisness and money in USA.