What 2D Items NEED to be Added to 3D World in Super Mario Maker 3 | Tier List

Super mario maker 2’s game style for Super Mario 3D World is pretty far behind the other four main game styles. One of the main reasons for this is the lack of items featured in the super mario bros, mario 3, mario world, and new super mario bros U game styles. However, not ALL items are as important as others, so today I will be creating a tier list based on which items from the main 4 styles I think need to come over to the 3D world in super mario maker 3. This includes anything from gizmos, enemies, bosses, power-ups, and more! So join me as I discuss what 2D items should come to the super mario 3D world style in super mario maker 3!
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[@ltAMeMario]

Probably the thing I’d want the most is nighttime for 3d world, I mean there is/was a glitch (idk if they patched it or not) that let you play in nighttime mode and half of them worked, it just feels lazy that it isn’t in there, the 3D World Theme feels rushed, there’s a lot of things that I’d still want to see but this is definitely one of my most wanted things

[@stoopybutt1085]

@@fasty93 But there's things added to the other styles that weren't originally in the game, so saying that 3d world didn't have nighttime is the reason it shouldn't get it in Mario Maker doesn't make sense when a lot of things are added to the Mario Maker styles but those items aren't in the original game. Like the Goombrats for example which were added to the older gamestyles despite not being in the older game styles originally.

[@retryin]

@@fasty93 Not every stage had a nighttime theme in 3d world, but I'm pretty sure there are instances of the Ground theme (in the intro), Forest Theme, Desert theme, and Ghost house theme, and sky theme (with the space levels). Cave night theme doesn't exist (how can it be night inside a cave), the castle and airship are already night. The only theme I could see this excuse working for is the snow theme (which is always day in the main game)

[@Qwerty_30154]

@@fasty93 so didn't smb

[@Funny-Luggo]

same

[@pepearown4968]

@@fasty93 There were multiple night levels in the game.

[@Esteban3000]

I actually think the Goomba Shoe would make a lot of sense for 3D World since the original game already has the Goomba Ice Skate which is basically just a Goomba Shoe with different controls. Not just that but glitching the Goomba Shoe into the 3D World style reveals that it's actually partially coded, with it even having an unfinished animation for the Goomba poping out of the shoe.

[@elneanderthal7169]

Yes

[@FirestarFilmsYT]

3:19 it's always these random short clips that make me laugh the most

[@SlinkSuperior99]

Missed Opportunity To Find An Electrodrome Level For Cool Bowser

[@frogmouth2]

I’d honestly take everything from 3D world ported to the other themes over anything from the other themes being ported over to 3D world in a heartbeat. The items would just be more useful in general.

[@tony88lee]

but it ruins the uniqueness

[@username5155]

@@tony88lee Can you really say that when every 3d world level looks the same already?

[@frogmouth2]

@@tony88lee that’s a dumb argument. Removing options over “uniqueness” is just dumb.

[@dagamer667_]

@@tony88lee it's already unique. It has special power-ups that are only in 3D world. Heck, even enemies.

[@TheJoshVerse]

I do agree on Fire Bros and Porcupuffers being added to the main style

[@justforlawlsandtrolls]

I will say, I finally did figure out why they didn't add Tracks to 3D world; it's because they couldn't think of a way to put it in front of terrain, without making it look weird... Probably. There are solutions around it, but there is a reason. Although I still agree that they should have figured out how to include them anyways

[@MintyMoron64]

Simple: have the tracks connect to the terrain via metal bars

[@justforlawlsandtrolls]

@@MintyMoron64 Yeah but what do they do about things attached to it? I think the best solution would be to render objects on a different "layer" than everything else, but I imagine that'd probably be a bit taxing lol

[@kibo1313]

​@@justforlawlsandtrolls most likely they would make it not placeable on terrain. ik thats dumb, but it's nintendo, and they always have lazy solutions for everything

[@davinchristino]

Draw the track items and the track after the terrain is drawn?

[@ade1174]

I completely agree with your S-tier, though I'd also bump munchers and spike traps up into S-tier. Munchers are just too useful to block off progression and for contraptions and being able to save space with spike traps would be so helpful.

[@avocado8116]

I would put vines higher because they make it possible to hit the same question block an infinite number of times just by unloading and reloading it. This mechanic is used in all sorts of contraptions and should definitely be in 3D world.

[@vexorian]

I think I use vine blocks just as often as on/off blocks in my puzzles. It's just too useful for making resetable puzzles.

[@tmac_2717]

hey odyssey, i have an idea for a video- you should make a video explaining every attribute you think our best boy dry bones would have in smash like spirits, taunts, and of course how he would play and control. then maybe nintendo will catch on and finally add him edit: i love the nerd face in every video btw the humor in your videos is better than ever

[@BagelNosed3DSuser]

15:33 That vine boom scared me I didn’t know it was coming and- *BOOOOom*

[@TheSocialZombie]

One thing I’d like to mention is that bridges and mushroom platforms could function so that they can’t let Cat Mario climb up them. 3D World doesn’t really have a semi solid platform like that other than clouds, and clouds can look pretty janky in some levels, as well as being a 1x1 tile so it makes sense that Cat Mario can’t really climb up them.

[@TheJoshVerse]

**me seeing a cloud in a fricking castle***

[@Meper]

There was a glitch early in smm2 that allowed you to put some 2d items in 3d world and 3d items in 2d worlds Spike blocks actually did work in 3d world and I think skewers also worked, they had the code and the blocks were already in the code all they had to do is make some textures. idk why they didn't add them

[@Lumberjack_king]

12:49 it's ironic because it's one of the only games to have stacking

[@Lumberjack_king]

I never thought I'd be hearted by odyssey central of all people

[@peterparkerunofficial3990]

5:05 they can have plessie

[@jaketaller8567]

I think Bowser Junior has a good shot of making it into the 3D World Style due to his appearance in Bowsers Fury, where he was equipped with both the Clown Car and his Magic Paintbrush.

[@peterparkerunofficial3990]

You should be hired by Nintendo right now

[@Dragon-eh9oq]

Dude will hire himself

[@thomasdougherty6737]

ikr

[@Magenitech]

@@Dragon-eh9oq Next video: "Top ten people Nintendo should hire.".

[@matearonmiskolczi1995]

Lol fair

[@kitty7313]

I they do that they might have to put in effect so they won’t

[@Uhhhhh1188]

This is a question that I have been having for a while, that being "Does Super Mario Maker 2 have a problem with simplicity?"

[@mikayel6175]

Smm3ds did not have reasons to not let u upload levels

[@thatgamernoob5186]

It isn't that simplistic, since there is very few things in smm1 that aren't in smm2, such as amiibos and 100 mario challenge. And that's basically it, meaning there are far more things to do. Still, they should have had more updates

[@djroscurro9859]

What makes it feel more limited to you?

[@Uhhhhh1188]

@@djroscurro9859 Super Worlds.

[@thatgamernoob5186]

@@Uhhhhh1188 super worlds weren't even in the first game, so it's pretty hard for them to be more limited.

[@benjaliaanimations9860]

Your videos are always amazing and your channel is way too underrated!

[@vengefly6173]

I would honestly love these things in the 3d world style, but it might take away from some of the uniqueness of it. The limitations make it honestly really fun to play around with because it MAKES you be creative. If the normal styles got most of the 3d world items and the 3d world style got most of the normal items, it wouldn't really be a extra style that feels completely different as much as it would just be a normal style. Again some of these items would be nice like the spike blocks and other decoration options, I just want the 3d world style to still feel really unique from the other styles in Mario Maker 3.

[@PsychicIsland]

I'm surprised I'm the first one to reply.

[@cutestcreeper569]

At least add one-ways tho for God's sake.

[@pukmin4498]

As someone who rarely uses this style, the limitations within 3D world do more harm to it anything else. I simply have nuch more fun creating levels within the other styles due to the many more options available. Now I'm not saying everything from the styles should be added, as, like you said, would take away it's uniqueness. I saying what Nintendo should do for the Mario Maker 3 is find a good middle ground for uniqueness and more options for making your levels. (And add decent ways to decorate your level)

[@grrgrrgrr0202]

A style doesn't need to be unique. Having different permanent abilities and different visuals is enough distinction, really. That said, there are a very small number of things in 2D that wouldn't work very well in 3D, and vice versa. But the majority of the omissions are just stupid.

[@3clisp315]

Yea it forces you to be creative, but for traditional level creators, there's like no options for decorating things. It's boring and plain

[@brikfanz]

1:08 smile :) 1:13 plot twist >:)

[@TheFunOne.]

We need clear pipes in the 2d game styles!

[@bloxboy72]

styles

[@AFurryWithMarioGames]

11:41 i like the way that he turned in sync to the music xd

[@davinchristino]

Frozen coins can be used for contraptions which can be triggered even when mario is far away, by simply sending one fire source on a track (instead of a shell travelling on global ground, which wastes ELA) Buzzy beetles are also immune to fire. They might have had troubles modelling tracks in a 3d engine. Not to say it's impossible though.

[@grotesquenathan2515]

I would want more special modes for the online, like a coin rush mode or a "most enemies killed" mode and stuff like that.

[@cassiesamuel8785]

Love your really factual style with the occasional vine boom, honestly catches me off guard and breaks me every time

[@itslight8859]

Idea for the 3d world spike block: You could place them as 1x1 tiles but if you place them 2x2 their appearance will change to how they look right now

[@conorhannon3352]

actually, there is a rideable item akin to yoshi and the goomba shoe in 3d world; the ice skate! granted, it'd probably be a lot more situational than the other two, but maybe it could be a snow theme alternative to a 3d world goomba shoe.

[@dubywuby8646]

These videos keep getting funnier. Keep up the good work 👍

[@giovanni8532]

I will really like if in SMM3 they will create a Banzai bill blaster because the banzai bills are really useless because you can fire one of them at a time,so a banzai bill blaster will be useful for making banzai bill not trash

[@jumentoqueanima]

You are my favourite channel! Keep it up with the great videos! A hi from Portugal! :)

[@ItsJxlius]

Your videos are amazing bro keep it up

[@betsieswartz]

Always a good day when odyssey central uploads

[@OzzyNe0n]

13:55 Actually, it does. Remember the "shoot a person out of a cannon" circus trick?

[@prasannasreeraamakrishnan717]

Interesting vid! I think it would help me and others to make a video on tips and tricks with note blocks. I am creating a super world and this info would help. Thanks!

[@godgame9841]

15:44 Why was this so funny 🤣🤣🤣

[@chickensquared140]

Wow, that WAS a banger!

[@ayskaripepperooni2770]

Basically everything expect movement should be available in every style, or styles should have good replaced items like goomba shoes replaced yoshis.

[@marnsw]

Really great video 👍 Personally I would love the nightime themes for 3d world I think that would the best thing the would on SMM3

[@sirbabybee6267]

Love the choice of Mario Galaxy music in the video, really shows your character development.

[@traviscunningham7062]

I thought Odyssey hated Galaxy.

[@averyhernandez15]

Hi! Love your vids!

[@brikfanz]

Yes it is very cool

[@Chef_GoldIslandEpicWubbox_game]

7:13 who else saw the spike top walk into the ceiling

[@biasedl]

Logic

[@NezukoandOcto]

3:19 wow that's a banger

[@storqy_]

Always love your videos

[@angrybirdboy1311]

Can you do a video ranking the different styles in SMM2? Maybe based on things like looks and exclusive items?

[@SlinkSuperior99]

7:13 Spike Top: I'm About To Do Something Illegal

[@supermaximglitchy1]

the buzzy beetle and spike top have another property: immune to fire flower, wich koopas and ant troopers aren’t plus the spike top has a faster blue variant

[@Aplay1O1]

Who is the #1 youtuber? that's right it is YOU!

[@bingobo2551]

Honestly I can see stuff like a ! Block that triggers a certain event from happening such as activating a single bullet bill launcher or a skewer shot.

[@gokojamesbond]

Did you know that Mario 3d world style has volcano theme Because when you select the castle, it shows you are outside bowser's castle That means it is the volcano theme

[@Amy-si8gq]

7:12 bro really said "ima head out"

[@edwardperkins1225]

I wish MM2 had something that was the inverse of the bumber allowing Mario to pass, but blocking enemies. Maybe it could just be a one way wall, for them only, with different graphics. This would get them to reverse their walking direction, and give you more control over enemy paths.

[@clutchathan1476]

3:19 is literally a FNF track🔥🔥🔥 such a banger ong⛽️

[@allaccessentertainment4755]

9th comment 🥳! I have NEVER been this EARLY 😁!

[@joneyisbigfunny]

For mario maker 2 they should have added the builder toads from the story mode aswell as the stone block you can carry. Those would make good additional options for clear conditions

[@randomzeldafan1466]

Ok but where is video about 3D items that NEEDS to be in 2D world?

[@Minty_Warior]

3D world already had the rainbow tracks for those circus platforms, they could have used those

[@kibo1313]

7:13 I laughed way too hard at this

[@swaggasaurus4837]

Odyssey: Hates Galaxy Also Odyssey: Uses Galaxy music in his videos

[@tibby4503]

Bad game does not mean bad soundtrack

[@erinpoulson2032]

I did the glitch to glitch all these items show in the video into 3d world, and I was able to come up with creative level ideas for all of them, it's a shame they aren't usually in that style.

[@xenophanes8145]

Great job

[@Isaacddrums547]

9:20 unsubbed that game was my whole childhood😭. It’s everything Mario odyssey WISHES it could be.

[@Odyssey_Central]

Angry wiggler L

[@Isaacddrums547]

@@Odyssey_Central I was upset sorry don’t take it personal. I just have lots of attachment to galaxy, Mario odyssey is amazing lol I’ve 💯ed the game on each of my saves.

[@brikfanz]

@@Odyssey_Central HOW DARE YOU

[@mingjiechen62]

Well for me even he said it sucks I'll still be subbed even if he says that

[@Isaacddrums547]

@@mingjiechen62 I’m still subbed lol

[@dhi_holo]

A critique on your notes for bridges and mushrooms: there is a difference, in 3D World. Semisolids can be climbed by a catsuit wearing player, while bridges wouldn't have that, and perhaps mushrooms would only have the one block, not only giving visual upgrades to levels, but mechanical upgrades to prevent cheese, or add alternate solutions

[@FireballerJack]

hello odyssey central, who's odyssey left and right?

[@tony88lee]

what i wanted the most include smisolid woithout tops(due to 3d, it is not possive to put terrain on top), one way clear pipe and tracks. placable shall which can be transfromed into the shall mask. make some blocks bigger/smaller. like spike or blinking blocks and have an always on option. there problarly wont have angry sun so just make night theme avalible after you unlock them for the other themes. put all the boss from 3d world, hissocat, blouders...

[@pustak7202]

another banger video with banger jokes and a banger insult to my childhood (9:19)

[@PokePuff05]

15:25 I think that the lava lifts are 4 tiles big but just are able to be activated inside a block because you barely clip inside the block just enough to activate it. I thought that because you can’t activate it by hugging the wall and jumping

[@arcuscotangens]

Wow, that 'your mom' joke caught me off-guard, well done.

[@Kinda_decent]

7:13 that Spike Top is too cursed to anyone to talk about it

[@sweeterstuff]

*spike stop casually noclips into backrooms*

[@Kinda_decent]

@@sweeterstuff that makes a lot of sense

[@pixelgaming7261]

I'd put the vines in the top of tier B as bricks with vines respawn when the area is reloaded, the only item to do this.

[@DaakStudios]

I hopefully still watch you when you hit 1 mill! I hope you hit it soon, even if you are at 110k now. I hope everyone looking at this will subscribe to you. I was subbed when you were at like 10k. I love your videos!

[@toxicjoshua7934]

I’ll never understand why 1 way walls aren’t in 3D world????

[@pvzmariosonica8fan]

Riddle me this, Nintendo: *WHY* did you put the Clown Car in the "Enemies" category, but the Banzai Bill in the "Gizmos" category???

[@GlitchPitbunny]

You forgot to mention wigglers are quite more dangerous underwater when angered because they can actually swim after you with high speed, so they should rather be one or two tier higher.

[@TeionLeeIRL]

out of all things, this video reminded me that the claws existed, i was using see-saws to replicate the ropes from NSMB-DS and totally forgot,,

[@paragnosia2399]

I’m getting Vietnam flashbacks when you said “bumper”. In the first Mario maker there was an impossible level filled with them and I always got them in campaigns

[@ex0ti1c42]

7:30 love the music

[@silveramyknux241]

I kinda want to see a another video of yours, explaining your unpopular opinions Or at least any Galaxy opinions

[@SuperNickid]

I have no idea when Super mario maker 3 will come. Does are the feature that I would like to see in Super Mario maker 3 Warp pipe that can also be place in main world, and not force into placeing it in the sub level, and would be considered a sepreate thing then the pipe that link main to sub level. To be able to created one way warp pipe, when you get out of it, you can't go back in, turning off the pipe on one side to be guarantee not to go back in even with kaizo jumping. Other feature would be after you turn off one side of the pipe, you turn it back on, to make enter the same pipe you got out, to end-up at a new place. Door that can connect main world, to sub world, and also warp box in the 3D world style. Being able to place a finish the level in a sub area. Pipe that just shot-out mario.

[@autumnmaru]

If you want more tier list ideas in this style, you could do remaining course elements from the original games mario Bros, Mario Bros 3, Mario world the entirety of the new bros series mario. After that discuss things in Mario Bros 2 mario land 1+2 and then the 5 3d games 64, sunshine, galaxy 1+2 and oddysee. If we get a 3rd mario maker I'm willing to accept 1 out of 3 options. 1.) The remaining course parts for the first four games from the original. 2.) Adding mario Bros 2 and mario land 1+2 styles that are no way affiliated with the other styles and 3.) A 3d game style. Secretly I would rather have a zelda maker with zelda 1, link to the past, links awakening/oracles, minish cap, and link between worlds.

[@DjoingDalton]

I'm not sure if the next Maker game would be a straight up upgrade to the previous one like SMM2 was. I'm expecting them to do something entirely different. My vote goes to an 'NES maker' that combines several nintendo properties. (SNES works too.)

[@PanthersGamingSessionYT]

Hey maybe make a tips and tricks on how to use Dry Bones effectively in levels!

[@jstdinos]

When I heard in Mario maker that they had a new course style I did not expect it will be 3d world big disappointment 😞.

[@Sconey-dj6ju]

I feel like he’s uploaded this video before

[@kidredglow2060]

7:14 that spiky just nocliped into the backrooms

[@Minal_Aurapine]

There's actually this one mario 64 rom hack maker named Kaze who is forfronting the creation of mario maker 3

[@tlsmithmn]

The main thing I want is super Mario maker 3(d), where you can also make 3d levels

[@energyshatty9020]

I’d honestly rank vines a smidge higher for being able to be placed in ? Blocks!! Vines placed in blocks have the added bonus of respawning whenever the area reloads, which makes it very helpful with reset doors and such!

[@klamaco]

What I want most in SMM3 is a "Q-Switch" ("Quick P-Switch") That functions EXACTLY like a P Switch and activates P blocks, EXCEPT the time it lasts is twice as short (and the p-music that plays is twice as fast, to compensate). No more waiting.

[@callmeobsequious]

1:08 this little part was a villain arc

[@dan0da0man]

this is so accurate but i would put spike traps and music blocks in s

[@Efwin197]

When you mentioned the goombrat I got really confused cause I thought that was a galoomba

[@clefairyfan333]

I was going to contribute something to the comments, but I was distracted by the funny Peepa video and forgot.

[@lylelylecrocodile2538]

3:19 well that was a song, if you can consider it one

[@FlashGlove]

12:10 "Or Erasing Him From Existence On The Maker" LOL

[@grrgrrgrr0202]

I think it is also important to analyze why SM3DW isn't cross compatible with the older styles. The reason is that SM3DW is the first style with depth. The vast majority of the objects from the older styles wouldn't be problematic at all; in fact the only ones that would pose a problem are: 1) Tracks 2) Enemy stacking 3) Angry sun 4) MAYBE Chain Chomp 5) MAYBE one way wall With regards to enemy stacking, it wouldn't be a problem if it was limited to stacking enemies of the same size. But in the 2D styles, you can stack enemies with a variety of sizes, which would pose problems in SM3DW.

[@marqimoth6987]

thinking of nintendo scrapping tracks last second just pisses me off so much, also, they didn't even try adding decorations

[@grrgrrgrr0202]

@@marqimoth6987 I think making a style that isn't cross compatible with the other styles was just a mistake to begin with. They should've added some 2D styles that aren't directly based off a certain game.

[@marqimoth6987]

@@grrgrrgrr0202 didn't they add sledge bros, which aren't in 3D world iirc, but they didn't add other 2D things???

[@grrgrrgrr0202]

@@marqimoth6987 Being present in the source material shouldn't be a criterion on whether it should be in SMB3DW. But I guess they used this criterium because it kinda makes sense to the masses.

[@marqimoth6987]

@@grrgrrgrr0202 but like, if they synced sledgebros and stuff like that with 2d styles, why did they not go the full way and add actual items from 3d world?

[@thunder4374]

I would like to give a random theme. If you overlap the window semisolid with the poll semi solid I.e the sky theme or desert you will get a solid wall. Also I would like to see the reverse of this video

[@craftomonapprovesdismessage]

9 months ago Odyssey... The HECK did you just say about Galaxy?!

[@saintjynr]

I know troll levels arent for everyone, but vines are pretty useful for messing with the player, either by making it so that if they hold up to enter a door they grab the vine, or so that you have to grab a vone so you wont fly away and die

[@Brenton338]

Hey Odyssey. May I ask you a question please?

[@TheQuackNationShow]

Can you do this video in reverse so it all the 3D world items that should be added to the main four

[@mushyanimations1170]

I don’t know about you, but all of these are S Tier