'Furiosa: A Max Max Saga' is a Mythical Epic

'Furiosa: A Max Max Saga' is a Mythical Epic | Movie Review

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Dave, Devindra and Jeff review the newest film from director George Miller.
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro
2:47 - Devindra's Thoughts
6:23 - Jeff's Thoughts
13:35 - Dave's Thoughts
24:30 - Spoiler Discussion
46:06 - Outro
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@1amissingno Ай бұрын

Agree with Devindra. How lucky are we to get another George Miller film set in the Wasteland?! Great film to see on the big screen, plan on watching it again.

@Maxaveli98 Ай бұрын

Miller did it again! A masterpiece that works so well with fury road.

@SuperheroMovies999 Ай бұрын

"She's the Darkest of Angels" "Do You Have it in you to make it Epic?" I've seen Furiosa in Dolby Cinema Twice Now. Anya Taylor Joy and Chris Hemsworth are So Good in This. 1 to 1 Comparison of Fury Road & Furiosa Below. 📜 Script Wise, Furiosa is Superior to Fury Road. 1. Furiosa(The Movie) has the Build of a Young Furiosa all the way up to Adult Furiosa and it's Very Good. How She met Immortan Joe etc. It also Feels more Expansive, doing little Bits of Exploring of 3 Locations (Gastown, Bullet Farm & The Citadel). 2. Fury Road is Furiosa Steals the 5 Wives, "Bumps" into Max, Tells Max that they're Heading to "The Green Place", Max Realises that "The Green Place" isn't there, and all of this is happening whilst Immortan Joe and his Army are Chasing Them across the Desert. 🎨 Visuals, it's a Tie. 1a. Both Fury Road and Furiosa have Some Stunning Visuals, Both have Amazing Colour Palettes. Both have the Light Blue Sky Coupling the Orange Sand Shots. The Sandstorm Scene in Fury Road and That Blue Scene in Fury Road Looked so Good. 1b. The Very Ending of Furiosa when she is Beating Up Dementus and there is a Shot when her Neck was Amped Up with Veins Popping & Strong, Such a Breathtaking Shot. 🎭 The Characters. It's Too Tough to Call. It's Another Tie. 1a. Fury Road has the 5 Wives who Certainly Add much to the film both performance wise and plot wise, it has Of Course Max who is Definitely Missed in Furiosa, it has Charlize Therons' Furiosa, it has Nux, it has a More Significant Performance by Immortan Joe. 1b. Furiosa has Furiosas' mother (Excellent Opening), it has Chris Hemsworth as Dementus who is Very Charismatic in this, it has Immortan Joe but he's not as Prominent in this, it Has Anya Taylor Joy as Furiosa (She's better than Charlize Therons' Furiosa in my opinion, "you fabulous thing" as Dementus Puts it). It has Immortan Joes 2 Sons. And it has Praetorian Jack. 💥 The Action Scenes - Fury Road Wins. Furiosa has Spectacular Action Scenes too but Fury Road has More of them. Just to name a few. 1. The Bike Jumping Scene in Fury Road, the Guitar Guy 🎸, the Pole Vaults in Fury Road, the Max Fighting Furiosa and the 5 Wives near the start of Fury Road. 2. Furiosa does have some Amazing Action, The Parachute Scene, The Sniper Scene & Dementus on top of the Tower Scene. 🎬 Bonus. I noticed that some of the Camera Work was Excellent in Furiosa. The Scene with Furiosas' Mother Captured and "The History Man" in the Foreground & Furiosas' Mother in the Background Tied Up, the Camera Does this Stunning Quick Change of Lens and i just thought it was Brilliant Camera work. ⌛ The Endings. Fury Road Wins. The Epic Ending in Fury Road when the Citadel realise that Immortan Joe is Dead and the "Let them up chant" & the Score in that moment. You just can't Beat that. If you've got Furiosa Over Fury Road, I'm not going to argue, and if you've got Fury Road over Furiosa, I'm also not going to argue. They're 2 Masterworks imo. Overall, They're 2 Outstanding Pieces of Artistry within Cinema. 1 tips the Scales in Story & 1 Tips the Scales in Action.

@VictorDiGiovanni Ай бұрын

My take on the underperformance of Furiosa is that this movie is the epic drum solo of cinema. Drums are absolutely integral to any piece of music, and there are many drummers and examples of percussion that are genius. Cannot be denied. But only a tiny subset of the world wants to endure epic drum solos. What I see on social media is a meltdown of people who adore epic drum solos and absolutely cannot understand how the rest of the world isn't as in love with epic drum solos as they are. "You people say you want great music! Why aren't you going to see this drum solo concert???"

@pureevilfnord Ай бұрын

I feel Fury Road was more of a drum solo. It was distilled down to the base whereas Furiosa hits a lot of different tones.

@theonlyever Ай бұрын

For this analogy to connect you’d need to identify what the drum is, and what instruments are missing. Right now it just sounds like you’re saying people who love Furiosa love it, and those who don’t love it don’t. Are you saying it does one thing really well, and is completely lacking other elements, not to mention cohesion as a whole?

@VictorDiGiovanni Ай бұрын

I'm saying all of those things. Like a drum solo, it becomes monotonous and tedious after the first five to ten explosions and dozen cars tumbling across orange sand. After twenty or thirty, you decide it's an okay time to go take a bathroom break and not worry about hurrying back. Then you walk back in just in time to see "4 Lessons From the Wasteland" and your heart sinks because you know there's still also a part 5. But you stick out the next fifty explosions and smash zooms to a driver coming over a dune. I get it. Some people can't get enough of this stuff. It's indeed action at the highest peak of the craft. But, mercy. It's two hours of drum solos. "But it's not all the same! That second one was mostly hi hats! And the sixth one was all cymbals! There's never been a cymbal solo before! You just don't appreciate music! " I'm not saying anyone shouldn't enjoy the things they love. But Mad Max fans need to realize that what they love is a niche product. If you saw Fury Road, you knew if you'd enjoy Furiosa. You can dismiss my analogy all you want, but the audience spoke this weekend. It didn't want another epic drum solo. You aren't wrong for loving these movies. But the ones who stayed away aren't wrong either. People are allowed to have different tastes. We all love things others despise. Just check out any random Letterboxd member's top four films. People love the worst stuff.

@hannsrhinesdale9769 Ай бұрын

I see what you mean but I have to disagree because to me Furiosa is epic and a very well crafted piece of art, in my opinion. It works for me on every single level. When speaking in music analogies, I'd rather compare it to a sprawling opening overture of a concept album, haha. Followed by a more focused banger as the second song but each has its merrits and they work together beautifully. As with everyrhing it's not for everone and the franchise may not hit the Zeitgeist of the masses but that was never ever a seal of quality. Quite the contrary, imo.

@VictorDiGiovanni Ай бұрын

@@hannsrhinesdale9769 I'm open to any analogy that properly evokes "droning and monotonous after the first 30 minutes". Like I said, for what they are intending, Fury Road and Furiosa are masterpieces, or at least the apex of the genre. The craft cannot be denied, and for fans of this genre, these movies are 10/10. My contention is that the reason for the huge underperformance is that to the rest of the world, these action movies are drum solos or concept album overtures. The outrage against the stupid movie-goers who aren't turning out in blockbuster numbers is massively misplaced. There's actually no outrage that should be sent anywhere. The filmmakers made exactly the movie they wanted to make. The fans of that type of movie came out in full capacity on opening weekend. It's just that the full capacity for the long haul is going to be about $200 million less than is needed to break even after marketing. Fury Road FAR exceeded its ceiling. Furiosa is exactly what the market for this film looks like. Sorry, drum solo aficionados, but your ascension to mainstream popularity isn't going to happen.

@maulrieze Ай бұрын

Hemsworth's character was not just another guy. His failures were based around the idea that a charismatic leader will only be successful for so long. That was the point. It all fell apart around him simply because he was all talk. His opening loss ( at the citadel ) is hilarious and also indicative of just how ineffective his rule would be

@adamant5550 Ай бұрын

I think his character is also very reflective of a marauding, Viking-type leader giving up raiding and trying to govern and ultimately failing at it. This is the sort of thing that happened during the actual Viking era; Vikings were great at raping and pillaging but struggled to hold and govern the territory they gained.

@studioseppuku9454 Ай бұрын

@@adamant5550 exactly, great at attacking places just can't run them.

@chesareroach Ай бұрын

This movie was 🔥

@makotoyamakami 2 күн бұрын

"Condition Green" basically means there's heavy trouble but you're commanded not to take any direct action and to retreat if menaced upon.

@roneteus 8 күн бұрын

Tom Burke really helped give the movie some post-apocalyptic The Souvenir vibes.

@davadh Ай бұрын

This movie would rock if we haven't already had Fury Road. I honestly enjoy this more than the older Mad Max movies, but Fury Road was just perfection. The one chase sequence with the gliders in here though, is worth the price of admission alone

@lockekappa500 28 күн бұрын

Yup. Everyone who hasnt seen either I always stress that they watch Furiosa first. I think it's the slower more methodical movie that does more world building. Whereas Fury Road is just the superior action film. Honestly I think both movies are so incredibly good and intense, that they involuntarily "ruin" the other. But thats because no other movie really prepares you for either of these movies.

@ZachMilneTalksMovies Ай бұрын

I had fun with this one! Great performances by Alyla Browne, Anya Taylor Joy and especially Chris Hemsworth. Some riveting action and great world building. A solid prequel to Fury Road. Great review!

@thisisspartacus Ай бұрын

I recommend watching them in order. Furiosa then Fury Road. They work as one incredible film. And I suspect George Miller would have made them in that order if studios had allowed him to.

@matt54656 Ай бұрын

no he did it on purpose as a writing technique. Already had the whole story wrote out just chopped it in half and put the second half out first. That way the prequel will feel completely right when it comes out.

@lockekappa500 28 күн бұрын

@@matt54656 That was NOT his initial plan, that's what he had to settle for. Furiosa was always supposed to be an anime/animated movie that accompanied Fury Road. Much like Animatrix. It never panned out that way though, for reasons.

@matt54656 21 күн бұрын

@@lockekappa500 yes but he already had it wrote out. the format it was suppose to be in at first is irrelevant. Although, now that you say it it would be a better anime than a movie. this is not a movie.

@lockekappa500 21 күн бұрын

@@matt54656 I didn't say it would be a better anime than a movie. I just said 10+ years ago thats what it was intended to be. But so much has changed since then. I'll always prefer live action in a world like this more.

@matt54656 20 күн бұрын

@@lockekappa500 I know you didn't say that. I said that? what are you even going on about do you know how to read?

@studioseppuku9454 Ай бұрын

I think the underground people were actually farming maggots to eat which makes sense when body parts are often available though at first you are meant to think they are cannibals.

@amy_yoshikawa Ай бұрын

They didn't made up a story about her arm later for this prequel. George Miller wrote Furiosa story/script decades ago before even filming Fury Road.

@ermeeleer Ай бұрын

Yes I was going to comment this... And funny they did mention it earlier in the pod.

@adamant5550 Ай бұрын

I actually think he wrote the scripts for Furiosa and Fury Road in the 1990s

@studioseppuku9454 Ай бұрын

Scrotus is the main bad guy in the Mad Max video game so he dies in the time between and before Fury Road.

@arin7053 29 күн бұрын

The game isn’t canon but yes it shares a lot of things with the new movies including a dementus side mission in the game and chum bucket being in the credits as the guy who gives furiosa the shitty car with a missing tire in the movie. It’s because the game devs had miller’s notes when making it.

@williammahaffey354 Ай бұрын

The same actor who played Scrotus is in Fury Road as a war boy so that might be Dave thought he made it to that film.

@studioseppuku9454 Ай бұрын

Yeah Scrotus and Slit (on Nux's car) is the same actor.

@VictorDiGiovanni Ай бұрын

I instinctively feel Jeff is 100% correct in his saga confusion. However, let's see what the internet says: Saga: a long, involved story, account, or series of incidents. any narrative or legend of heroic exploits. a form of the novel in which the members or generations of a family or social group are chronicled in a long and leisurely narrative. a dramatic history of a group, place, industry, etc.: any very long story with dramatic events or parts: I don't like it, but I guess "A Mad Max Saga" is technically correct-ish.

@Redjack10 Ай бұрын

I still don’t even understand what he was so hung up on. There’s nothing actually wrong with the title.

@VictorDiGiovanni Ай бұрын

@@Redjack10 "Saga" feels like it means "a whole bunch of stories strung together", so to call one story a 'saga' feels odd at first. It's like calling a movie "The Empire Strikes Back: A Star Wars"

@iamsylar24 Ай бұрын

@@VictorDiGiovanniIs ‘A Stars Wars Story’ any better?

@VictorDiGiovanni Ай бұрын

@@iamsylar24 Yes, because a story is a singular thing. A saga, while it is technically a single item, FEELS like it's made up of multiple things. It feels like "Furiosa: A Mad Max Series"

@iamsylar24 Ай бұрын

Eh, I feel it shows enough of her as a child to how she grows and changes in a brutal world.

@Dunderkim Ай бұрын

I was baffled with the fact that Furiosa was almost as good as Fury road in almost every ways and even better in its pacing.

@VictorDiGiovanni Ай бұрын

One other comment. 90% of the outrage at the underperformance takes the tone of "This is a great movie! What more do people want???" with the implication that people went to see this movie, then retroactively also are responsible for the LACK of ticket sales. The people who wanted to see this film DID go see it. I was ultimately totally bored, but I went and saw it. I'm $10 of the $31 million. The giant box office crater where the Furiosa audience should be was from people deciding ahead of time they weren't interested. So you can't blame people for not going to see a movie they didn't think they were going to like. Every week there are a dozen movies at the theater or streaming, and dozens of TV shows that I don't watch because I don't want to, for any of the hundred reasons I might have. Clearly, a lot of people saw Fury Road eight years ago. Also clearly, a large chunk of those people said, "Yeah, nah, I'm good," when the prospect of more of it was offered to them. That's not a lack of discernment or lack of taste. That's an audience indicating they've seen all they need to see. "It's like Mad Max" is a selling point that has hit its ceiling. We're also clearly at the end of "It's like John Wick" era. We're at the end of "Wow! another interconnected MCU film!" era. We've all got lots and lots and lots of all of it at home. It's like the 1000 prepper meals in my backyard shed at 10am on Jan 1, 2000. I've got piles and piles of movies and TV shows that I won't ever get to, so you have to really convince me why I'm going to go see another Mad Max film in a theater.

@jojopatrice19 27 күн бұрын

Your daughter should check the percy jackson book series out if shes into greek mythology :)

@MyEmptyChannel Ай бұрын

That's Charlize at the end leading the wives out at the end (right?? Now im doubting myself); looks like taken directly from Fury Road

@BananaJoe12345 Ай бұрын

It was pretty good. But I would rather have had a new Mad Max movie than a prequel. Especially because we probably won't get one now.

@adamant5550 Ай бұрын

Miller already has a script for Mad Max: The Wasteland

@BananaJoe12345 Ай бұрын

@@adamant5550 I know, but nobody will finance that.

@adamant5550 Ай бұрын

@@BananaJoe12345 I wouldn't be so sure

@mariusi Ай бұрын

Found it as disappointing as its box office. Half of it without the real Furiosa, and instead with a likely future Razzie nod for C.H.

@stevena.7022 Ай бұрын

No way I pay to watch a prequel.

@ermeeleer Ай бұрын

Agree mostly. The young Furiosa casting was brilliant, but i felt Anya Taylor Joy didn't quite nail it for me. I think it's because I couldn't help but keep thinking about this character becoming the Charlize Theron version and that performance was just so badass, she comes across as feeble in comparison. She just doesn't have that swagger and physicality. And yes the vfx reallly took me out, the Fury Road effects were seriously seamless and there are shots which still linger in my mind. And Chris Hemsworth was miscast tbh I'd much prefer a lesser known actor in this role. I think the high camp is ok just not evil Thor, with the hair and cape and all. And it was way too long, could've been tighter, it felt a bit overblown whereas Fury Road was just a ride. It just made me want to watch it again. Actually for me the best part was probably the ending, visceral and poignant. I hope there's a part 3 and with a grizzled Charlize or an older actor like a Carrie-Ann Moss would be awesome.

@pureevilfnord Ай бұрын

I can't decide if Furiosa is a better movie, it will take time and more viewings, but I feel that over the years the movies will become a pair that just meld together perfectly.

@matt54656 Ай бұрын

i think I feel this way too. too much comes at you in the first watch and is almost hard to comprehend everything that happens and can sometimes feel like it bounces around in the plot too much.

@MovieEmporium Ай бұрын

I love Chris Hemsworth but there are points near halfway through were his character kind of is lesser than the sum of its parts.

@adamant5550 Ай бұрын

I think that is the point of his character. He is great at being a charismatic leader of a marauding biker gang, but, when he tries his hand at governing, his leadership style falls apart and his flaws are exposed. You also have to look at it from the perspective of Furiosa. When she was a child, Dementus probably seemed terrifying, but, as an adult, he looks kind of pathetic.