Furiosa and the Death of the Box Office | Castle Super Beast 274 Clip

[@tylerlackey1175]

Pat from the sw1tcher days would totally bring a baby to a movie theater just to ruin other peoples experiences

[@vistea1]

Nah. Instead he'd would tell the person who brought the baby to put it on silent

[@diegomedina9637]

Speaking of what Old Pat would do... When do you think Pat will tell Patoo about his older sister Baby Ashley?

[@kaijuultimax9407]

Nah Pat from the sw1tcher days would have left his baby at home with a sitter specifically so that he could rag on everyone who didn't.

[@jacobp7037]

Parents: "Just go outside" Outside: *116 F⁰*

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

*concrete acting as heat sinks all the while

[@graffitisamurai]

Outside: NO LOITERING. PAY OR GTFO YOU FREELOADING BRATS

[@bahskintimulholde6191]

Humidity Index: *90%*

[@217adaptiveperspective]

Starship Trooper clip of Turret guys melting

[@Foundthottage]

Ngl I'm glad that they cover that this is (in part) a cost of living thing. Like, sorry studios, I'd love to see tarot or whatever but I've got to save up all my money for the next 10 years to afford a quarter of a house

[@AlecTrups]

They can include all the comfy seats and alcoholic drinks they want, it doesnt stop how much all the OTHER people in the theater tend to ruin it. Last time i went a dude was literally snoring loudly next to me early into the movie while his wife chatted on her phone, while some teenagers sitting on the opposite side of me kept talking the whole time. Didnt stop even after the staff came in

[@Fasumbra]

"Hell is other people", as the saying goes. The "theater experience", if it ever existed, is certainly dead now.

[@leithaziz2716]

Ironically, both times I went to the Theater it was to see both Spider-Verse films. But the whole room was empty with only 1 family in the backseats. It was a comfy, if lonely experience. But at least it meant it couldn't be disrupted.

[@AlecTrups]

@@leithaziz2716 honestly that's my ideal situation. Daytime movies on a weekday are peak movie-going. A little cheaper sometimes too.

[@normandy2501]

​@AlecTrups but now that means spending a whole day of PTO as an added cost lol

[@thecaptain6520]

​@AlecTrups at that point, just stay home and watch it

[@Mr.Faust3]

IT WAS ME WOOLIE I'm the one who sabotaged furiosa box office sales so that there can only be one desert movie LISAN AI GAIB LONG LIVE THE FIGHTERS

[@Deadwolf27]

Noooooooooooooo! 😱

[@xdr22]

You monster...

[@BadInfluenceMan]

Damn You!!! I will have vengeance, so I swear on the names of the warlords Rectus Erectum and Fungus Humungus!!!

[@jaykelley103]

Based

[@BigFingerRo]

On the topic of malls that Pat brought up: I live in a town in Mexico that, up until like 15 years ago or so, really only existed as a residential area for a couple factories here. This means that, for a good amount of years, the only spaces dedicated to entertainment were theaters and malls, of which the town only had like 3 or 4, and _maybe_ a bowling alley downtown. Now, the town has grown _substantially_ in those 15 years, and is projected to keep growing. Nowadays, we have a variety of stuff to do: Many theaters, a bunch of rinky-dink spaces for hipster-y activities, including poetry reading, a BUNCH of new spots for stuff like go-karts and trambampolines, a couple bowling lanes, etc. Now, here's the important bit imo: Many of these new places are distinctly americanized. This is because the town owes a lot of its growth to different companies from different parts of the world, mostly the states, settling here. What I'm getting at is entertainment is the telltale sign of money flow. It's near impossible to have a BUNCH of people move to a certain location and NOT organically end up with a bunch of places where people can go and have fun. The opposite is also true: A town in the middle of nowhere, where no money is flowing, has no reason to have entertainment spots. I can think of at least 3 towns around this one that have like 5-digit population numbers, and have one mall and one theater _at best_ . So, perhaps what we are seeing, combined with the stuff we've mentioned about millenial home economies and such mentioned here, is a shift of money flows. I can't really back my claim up with numbers, so perhaps I am full of shit, but I suspect that whatever money movies make now come from every place getting gentrified and rebuilt and whatever other maladies urban living can inflict on its populace through investment.

[@fist-of-doom487]

So that’s where all our business is going. The most stereotypical choice for fleeing industries is to just move south of the border.

[@TalkingVidya]

The Cinema prices in the rest of North America are crazy to me, here in Mexico, the most expensive and luxurious tickets cost around 10 dollars, and that's the VIP experience, the one you go on special ocations. The normal experience is like, 3 to 5 dollars depending on the function. And like, even taking into account the prices of living and the economy, the difference is HUGE. Paying 30 dollars for a ticket is insane to me.

[@ExeErdna]

20 years ago they were like $7 so they're damn near 5 times as much which is stupid. Then they wonder why people smuggling in food and shit. For the price of getting a you and maybe a few friends in. You can get a month or two of Netflix and make yourself some food...

[@SuzakuX]

When I was a kid in the 90s, tickets to see a new movie were $6, and matinees were $3. Lived in a small town, one theater with one screen. We used to go every weekened during the summer. I still remember going to see Jurassic Park on opening night, the whole town turned out. Theater was packed, people were sitting in the aisles. The mayor was there.

[@kaijuultimax9407]

When I was a kid, it was $7 for a ticket, $5 for matinees. A large bucket of popcorn was expensive at $10 but it literally gave you so much popcorn that a family of 4 pawing at it the whole movie would just barely be able to finish it off. Now the tickets are $15 for an adult ($20 if you're going to a theater that has the luxury seats instead of stadium seating), $11 for matinees and that same bucket of popcorn is now $20 and the only upside to that price is the theater now offers one free refill of the bucket.

[@cattibingo]

Are you talking about cinepolis? The same fucking theater chain costs like $40 per ticket here.

[@joseph0098]

Danny que haces aquí??? XD Por cierto, siento que otra cosa que ocurre en LATAM, tal vez sea sólo yo, es que la mayoría de gente va al cine acompañado. Eso y que la comida es absurdamente cara, al menos aquí en Honduras

[@W4L3YT]

For box offices to become profitable once more, the cost of living must rise so that average individuals can afford to spend money on movie tickets. While $10-$15 used to be manageable, the current $30 price tag necessitates careful consideration. The more we contemplate this expense, the less inclined we are to visit the cinema. The sole exceptions are films for kids and extensively promoted movies.

[@fredrickmansav6852]

they could also just stop making garbage propoganda

[@victorwagner2423]

@@fredrickmansav6852 While that might be nice, It wouldn't get me inside a movie theater.

[@oleub23]

​@@fredrickmansav6852most moviegoers do not, in fact, care if they are watching movies that are bad and/or propaganda. We have the entirety of box office history to show that there's no correlation between popularity and quality

[@Tleilaxu0]

​@@fredrickmansav6852It's... it's not the cinemas making the movies.

[@TheMilhouseExperience]

That only causes inflation. It would probably work better to stop taxes so that people have that extra money and are more in control of what they want to spend that money on, as well as lift some regulation so that companies are more free to take advantage of opportunities that were negotiated away from multi billion dollar companies that had already made it and needed to pull the ladder up to prevent competition.

[@glass12]

Inglourious Basterds is 2 hours and 33 minutes, Pat.

[@connorsmith1005]

People like me who can barely afford food and fuel don't have the time or money for a movie theatre trip.

[@odizm5196]

remember when the cinema box office had replaced the Drive-In and now your home theater mix streaming has now replaced cinema box office Drive-In went extinct and came back for a time and now cinema box office is in the same boat

[@GrayD_Fox]

nah

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

My local drive in is wildly outperforming the cineplex

[@Day100]

The price for snacks is insane, like even worse than at a sports stadium. I go to the movies occasionally with my dad and we take turns buying the tickets and food. It's 10$usd for a single soda. I bring my own drinks and snacks in.

[@normandy2501]

I learned to just eat before I went years ago from my brother. Most of the food there is salty (even the Dasani water they sell) so that you have the urge to get more drinks. I remember my 4th/6th grade teacher telling us that they purposely use the color red in some places because it subconsciously can make you hungry. I don't know how true that it, but I wouldn't be surprised. My wife and I won't have any televisions in the house, but we will invest in a good projector that we can just put away when we're done with it. When Dune 2 got digitally released, I watched it for the first time entirely on my phone with some headphones on deployment. I'm not even remotely a snob about how I should or shouldn't view something that I want to see regardless.

[@verymelonman12]

That's why my family and I just get cheap snacks or burgers from outside and hide them in our pockets

[@kaijuultimax9407]

$15 for each adult, $15 minimum for a popcorn bucket of a decent size, costs nearly the price of a AAA game to do a movie date with concessions. And the boomers wonder why the young people don't date anymore lmao

[@kronos1794]

Boomers: you kids are lazy, work hard so you can buy my house at a drastic mark up just save you money instead of wasting it on other crap. Millenials: I can't budget in $60 every time I want to watch a movie, I'll just see fewer. Boomers: You kids are killing movie theaters! Go see more movies you can't afford!

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

where, just *where* the hell do movie tickets cost 60 bucks? are we talking Canadian fun bux or something?

[@zhentable]

​@@miguelnewmexico8641 many theaters around me were averaging around 70-80 bucks

[@originalscreenname44]

@@miguelnewmexico8641 I can say that in the US, ticket prices tend to range from $12-17 depending on where you live. I'm sure Pat living in a major metro area in Canada with the Canadian dollar not being quite as strong is getting hit for about $20 as a base. The $60, however, is a legitimate concern because people with families, which is the audience that the film industry tries to court the most because it's the widest net, may not be able to swing that or more for just seeing a movie. They could get a video game for that price and get far more entertainment for everyone and wait for the movie to come out on streaming/rental for far cheaper all around.

[@professordetective807]

@@miguelnewmexico8641 | Two tickets plus food, maybe?

[@kronos1794]

@@miguelnewmexico8641 tickets for a single person are on average are 15-20, if you take a date/partner that's 40 and with concessions you're in the 70s. That's a lot to drop on a 2 hour experience.

[@angrymushroom26]

I feel that the big reason that theaters and such declined is the same reason that places like card shops and Gamestops aren't as hype anymore. You use to go there and it would be a little hang out, talk about some games, play a demo, and see some neat things and maybe leave with a 40-60$ game or some cards. They have kinda stripped away the "Third place" aspects of it to sell more and monitize it to the point of it isn't a hang out, it is a thing to do and once you are done they want you to leave. You have to be intent on the hang out part to get the enjoyment with it. We are probably about to get a return to places that are places just to be for a while. Arcades and such CAN still succeed it feels but they feel like they missed the point in the pursuit of highest profit margins. Business is business sure but it is like a game coming out with a hyper agreessive microtransaction system, game doesn't matter, BUY NOW! and then they will pull a multiverse and close up after taking what they can.

[@Dragonsmana]

This is a very good observation. Reminds me of a tweet I saw in the past couple weeks that brought up a similar point how while it might seem "weird" that kids and young adults would like to hang out in Walmarts and such. You do so in a small town, because it might be one of the more interesting places to actually be, so you can't fault them for that (a sentiment I can wholly share in my youth). You take that away from Theaters and Gamestops like you mentioned, and it ends up cutting into sales ironically because nobody wants "BUY THIS" shoved down their throat the entire time they are there, so they would rather not be there at all.

[@originalscreenname44]

Theater prices go up, but the theater experience goes way down. I don't care about your IMAX because that is a ridiculous price to watch a movie without owning it, and I don't care about 3D (if that's still around) because it gives me headaches. I can stay home with a decent sound system and a good screen and watch a movie in the comfort of my own home that isn't freezing and with snacks that cost way less. Unless you're really into the "movie experience" I can see why people are more willing to wait for streaming.

[@os6829]

I live in a place where matinee tickets at the theater are still under $10, so this box office doomer convo just flew over my head.

[@femdayo]

I agree. I thought I was going insane hearing $30 when Friday Night tickets to Dune 2 cost me around $15 right after it came out

[@alexanderson4497]

Bro, I grew up in TX, like the area where I grew up I could go out and ride my bike or go to the beach but as I moved and got older there's was fuck all for infrastructure to even walk anywhere, if you don't have a car good luck walking anywhere cause it's straight up highways and the sidewalks that do exist pray they don't just end at some random spot in-between a 4 way intersection right next to the 4th oil refinery you've walked by. We've created a concrete hellscape for ourselves and expect children to somehow figure out where to go to "have fun."

[@SuzakuX]

American car culture fucking sucks. I grew up in a small TX town, when I was little we lived close enough to downtown that we could walk to the theater, but we moved out to the country and you can't get anywhere without a car. Then the theater burned down and the nearest one was about 45 miles away.

[@BTM8109]

I was so mad when Pat looked up the correct title for The Crimes of Fuckface

[@HectorLopez0217]

This is also while Bad Boys Ride or Die made its budget opening week

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

I mean, of course the movie marketed to your dad did well

[@king_big_pp]

@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat And Inside Out 2, a movie for kids, is going gangbusters as well. RLM's video came out days before either film, and now that these movies have proven they're full of shit, everyone's so ready to call them "exceptions". It's goofy af

[@cylondorado4582]

I was looking forward to it (loved Fury Road), but I don’t like to go to the theater when it’s crowded so I saw it the following week. I’ve been meaning to see Planet of the Apes for longer then that, and I just looked it up yesterday to see if it’s in theaters still. Might go see it tomorrow.

[@sammaelazrael6309]

In this bit Woolie and Pat “back in my day” the fuck out.

[@insanemindset2667]

Ironic considering that Pat is calling out boomer parenting bullshit. XD

[@tostisgood]

I really enjoyed Furiosa. It was a worldbuilding, character-centric story that complements Fury Road beautifully.

[@Yeshua996]

pat actually hit the nail on the head with the loitering thing, im a grown man and last time i was at the mall i got stopped twice by security cause i was just hanging out in the food court (i went to get lunch lol) and the last time i went to an arcade i spent nearly 200$ for me and my date. its crazy prohibitive and expensive already for adults to find shit to do i cant imagine being a kid rn w less money and freedom.

[@Yeshua996]

at least in the US, our infrastructure has gotten worse too. Roads are more dangerous, sidewalks are less common, and public areas like parks or pools etc. have gotten crazy about weird open times and rules about loitering. there just arent as many good, cheap, and safe 3rd spaces anymore

[@jai249]

And I thought 8€ here was super high what the hell are these prices 👁️👁️👁️👁️

[@originalscreenname44]

Those are the Canadia prices and I'm sure they get even worse if they hit one of boutique theaters with the fancy seats and a full restaurant menu.

[@firefang9212]

I was about to say, the theatre local to me is £8.50 per adult, and even the bougie theatre in the city nearest to me I've only seen go up to £15 per adult. Americans and Canadians getting scammed apparently.

[@bizzarocraw2412]

I'll say what I said in the Red Letter Media video. The worst part of going to the Theater is other people. If I go to see something like Killers of the Flower Moon, and there's a group of people is talking and laughing over it the entire time, that's a ruined experience for a good movie. You can make the movie ticket cheap, you can make it an expensive blockbuster with A List Actors. Other people ruin the experience Every. Fucking. Time.

[@thecaptain6520]

Rare Spedlettermedia W

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

*casually gained red letter media W

[@ExeErdna]

It's true especially when the catch videos of people fighting in the theater. People don't wanna play with RNG dealing with that in the middle of movie where it gets shut down and cops called.

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

@@thecaptain6520 grow up.

[@thecaptain6520]

​@@miguelnewmexico8641 I tried. It sucked.

[@invaderpez12]

I still prefer the movie experience, tho I get why people don't. Sitting in a big theater with a popcorn and candy hits different

[@GoodlyPenguin]

They sincerely made Furiosa be well made, but the movie came out while the iron is freezing cold a decade later.

[@phuqutoob-pf7pb]

Everything I saw looked like a bunch of CG crap

[@hairlessbear6945]

@@phuqutoob-pf7pbGive it a shot. It's so good even with the CG.

[@phuqutoob-pf7pb]

@@hairlessbear6945 nah I'm good, just watched the original trilogy last week

[@TrueLegateDamar]

@@phuqutoob-pf7pb I watched it and it is, it looked and felt so lifeless compaired to Fury Road.

[@Biodeamon]

box offices and work offices were one of the things were people realized "wait a minute this sucks" if only people could have been like that with cars

[@Chaoktarukto]

I've seen people whonare way into cars argue against trains because they liked their car and didn't want to ride a train because it was too inconvenient. Paraphrasing, but the entire thread was wild.

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

but cars *don't* suck. traffic does.

[@rat8294]

​@@miguelnewmexico8641nah cars do suck those things are responsible for so much shit

[@femdayo]

My car is legit one of my last truly private places I have.

[@thecaptain6520]

​@@femdayo it's not private. Look out the windows. i see you

[@Akaritomi]

We have a theater in our small community in Texas. Price is decent and experience is wonderful. The food is delicious and not "too" expensive. All in all enjoy the theater we have here.

[@li-limandragon9287]

If Warner Brothers weren’t pricks we would’ve gotten this movie only a couple years after Fury Road.

[@ApexGale]

Kids having access to the internet in the palms of their hands at any given moment is unironically the worst thing that could happen to them developmentally any parents who give their children a smart phone before middle/high school should have their parent card taken away. and yes that includes giving your toddler an ipad to distract them instead of real toys or just giving them your own attention

[@ExeErdna]

Agree, I remember my moms be like "don't sit too close to the TV" and they're basically frying a baby's brain by putting a screen legit right in their face for the first 5 years of their life...

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

there's a good point here, but it feels a little unhinged for some reason.

[@ApexGale]

@@miguelnewmexico8641 How is it unhinged to point out that it is detrimental in a developmental aspect to give your children uninhibited access to internet? And how it has been proven via studies that giving your children stuff like an ipad or phone rather than toys with actual physical feeling is bad for them?

[@thecaptain6520]

​@miguelnewmexico8641 it's unhinged because he was raised by a PS2, which is different than being raised by ipads. Somehow.

[@ApexGale]

@@thecaptain6520 most children weren't playing on consoles at the tender age of 1-2 years old, my dude. again, extremely important developmental stage for infants/toddlers. responsible parents often limit the amount of time that their (usually past 5 or 6 year old) kids were allowed to play, which enforced proper routine.

[@PotionSmeller]

Yoooo Woolie and Skelmo hung out irl? I didn't know they were chill like that

[@benlunaris]

The real question is what's the cost of a studio putting a movie in a theatre and is it more profit/loss going straight to dvd or streaming companies? Expensive food, tickets, gas cost, specific time scheduling, having to deal with people interrupting the movie that are never thrown out or warned to leave (this happened in 3 separate theatres multiple times after covid)...I do miss the booming feel and massive screen and some theatres having the seats with the 4d vents/vibrations and whatnot but the amount of garbage involved to go back just...It's more disappointing that it's not worth it most of the time

[@WeaponOfMyDestructio]

Theater nowadays you paying money for an experience you can't control. One jackals can ruin it for a whole room of people

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

this can't be a coincidence; why am i seeing jackal used as an insult everywhere now? do people not like dogs anymore?

[@WeaponOfMyDestructio]

​@@miguelnewmexico8641auto correct got me. But jackals are asholes anubis ain't shit

[@m.czandogg9576]

2:37 I'm confident he's being hyperbolic and in Canada but even so, huh? I'm in Connecticut and on Tuesday the standard movie ticket is $8.20 INCLUDING a $1.89 online fee WITH tax.

[@michaelmaguire4147]

9:30 No Woolie, we only witnessed the beginning of it, it has only gotten worse for the kids.

[@shotguncrucifix]

Pat, they have daytime showtimes specifically for parents in some chains. It might be worth doing a test run one day. Also, a regular ticket in my city is about $13-$15 but I have a membership so I pay about $12 on a regular price day. Sneaking in food is also a rite of passage.

[@LoydeReed]

Furiosa failed because no one knew it was coming out until the day before.

[@WTFisTingispingis]

True, the marketing was shite.

[@iller3]

no that's not the reason... try again

[@hellsapoppin9326]

The marketing was really cocky and understated , unlike the Deadpool marketing cycle, which is obnoxious and doesn't go away for over a year

[@Kilborns]

No

[@stephensmith7327]

​​@@iller3Garfield was also out and Planet Of The Apes was still in most theaters. Those monkeys never miss.

[@GojiEm]

They have the radio on at my work and i swear i hear more commercials for Disney+ or prime shows/movies and the only movie commercial i can recall was Furiosa. It wasn't until recently that i found out Furiosa was a theatrical movie and not an amazon prime exclusive mini-series.

[@Kango234]

Meanwhile Inside Out 2 had the biggest opening since Barbie.

[@parodysam]

Speaking of giant bombs

[@botchboy4237]

I feel like kids movies are going to be the exception here

[@leithaziz2716]

One of the better Pixar Sequels too.

[@planguy9575]

Weird. It is almost like people didn't want to see Furiosa.

[@iller3]

@@botchboy4237 they always were... (kids are too "new" to every experience to have built up any media-resentment)

[@viahistory829]

The death of the third place has now claimed theaters. What will be next?

[@thepickles8833]

I don't even know what counts as a third place in this era.

[@s7robin105]

Furiosa was a great film and yet another example of why the opinion of the average film goer does not matter. Its why Blade Runner and Fury Road flopped as well. People don't see amazing films until they hear about them and rent them later.

[@ExeErdna]

Since a GOOD review sells a movie yet people wanna be like "no, reviews aren't meant to sell you on watching something". Word of mouth/a review can make or break an IP, straight-up.

[@s7robin105]

@@ExeErdna Except all the reviews and word of mouth are what this movie has but still no one went to see it because Mad max has historically never done amazing at the box office post 80s

[@king_big_pp]

It's why Jurassic Park failed so hard at the box office and became a hidden gem cult classic

[@ExeErdna]

@@s7robin105 That's honestly because they waited too long between thunderdome, fury road and furiosa. All the other media inspired by Mad Max is ironically more popular.

[@s7robin105]

@@ExeErdna Well blame Thunderdome. Its why the series took 3 decades to come back on top of the other issues it had to deal with.

[@ngmajora6986]

Saw Furiosa on release day and the theater was completely empty save two other people. *"The Dream is Dead."*

[@michaelmaguire4147]

I think a big factor, which I see as a problem in all consumer industry, no one wants to pay for maintenance/upkeep anymore. Those Theater speaker are blown out, the seats are 10 years old, and the concession stand has been slowly lowering quality to increase profits for years. I see it all the time looking at businesses around my area, signs that haven't been updated in my lifetime, only doing the bare minimum of cleaning, even at my own work (fellow grocery store worker) it seems like every other week one of our fridge/freezer units goes down.

[@Certified-Bruh171]

Australian movie tickets are anywhere from $18 to $22, still expensive but holy shit $30 for a ticket? Fuck that

[@deviantknight7009]

Woolie I was waiting all day for a reaction for Marvel vs Capcom collection announcement

[@npiper]

So about Pat seeing movies at the theater longer in the past, I can't speak to the modern times but in the old pre-digital projector times movies were contracted IN ADVANCE because the studio needed to know how many copies of the film to make. Another part of that contract would often be how many seats and how big a screen those movies would be on. I worked in a theater back when the Star Wars prequels came out and the manager told me that The Phantom Menace was a HUGE kick in the balls not just because they booked two copies for 4 months but they were required to show it in their two biggest theaters that entire time, playing to essentially nobody (except the people secretly checking on us to make sure we were abiding by the contract) for three months of that time.

[@MajorCrasher]

Movie theaters are dying for the same reason most entertainment mediums are dying. Unchecked capitalism by corporations that make experiencing the entertainment you want awful and/or unaffordable for the average person. Movie theaters specifically also have the issue of other consumers ruining the experience, but that was always a thing, even before Covid.

[@typhonyx_was_taken]

“Just go outside” is crazy to me You 35+ year old people were not just allowed, but *encouraged* to disappear with no supervision? It doesn’t compute in my mind at ALL

[@SuzakuX]

I guess it started to change in the 90s with suburbia, video games, and cable television, but yeah. If you lived in the country you'd go play in the woods or field, climb trees, swim in ponds, whatever. If you lived in walkable town or city you'd go to the park or public pools, arcades, theater, etc. Without the internet there were hard limits on what entertainment was available to you at home, so you'd get bored.

[@alldayagain]

Yeah, but that "i'll wait for a better offer as the cost of _now_ tho" that Woolie described has been my MO for *YEARS!!* 😅😂

[@DrawQuick2014]

Y’all remember dollar theaters 😢

[@thepickles8833]

we still have ONE

[@cattibingo]

The theater in my small town in the desert recently jacked up the ticket price and likes to brag about their heated leather seats. Mf who wants sticky heated seats when its literally 105 outside.

[@RedEyesBlackKnight]

You can make a list of all the reasons movie theaters are failing, but for myself and others its always the other people in the theater that make the experience MISERABLE.

[@thecaptain6520]

This^

[@GrayD_Fox]

i guess. the last “bad” theater experience i had was seeing Furiosa, but the couple talking wasn’t really bad during the movie and gave me a laugh when the Max cameo happened and the wife asked “who is that”

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

Just the crowd reactions are too annoying

[@kurowasanabe]

I really feel bad for all these people who I keep hearing about that that have awful movie experiences. I have one of the best ones in Europe a 10 minute walk away that I have been going to since I was like 3 and it was always good. I pretty much still go there every week or two.

[@1000Tomatoes]

Should have had a limited edition popcorn cup

[@Dragonsmana]

Should of been Immortan Joe's mouth.

[@meteor22]

For a split second there I thought Woolie got a few spider webs caught in his beard. But then I remembered "Oh right he's just old. Dudes prolly close to 40 right now. I'm dumb lol" .

[@Gatherway-Duo]

8:35 So, Pat at 10 years old would have been around 1996. $20 since then has inflated to around $36-40. $40 nowadays to cover a trip to the mall, including public transit, food and a movie? Yeah, that is not happening.

[@WTFisTingispingis]

Does the box office matter anymore? It's ridiculous.

[@vantablack6288]

but you see, the funny number must go up

[@therapymutt1468]

I got my first day front row Imax seat to Furiosa, which I was happy as hell to shell out for despite being homeless. And that theater wasn't full. Which told me what I needed to know, and made me sad during an otherwise awesome viewing.

[@Stushcinta]

"I remember when it went from 25 cents to 50 cents" *Looks at the australian $1 coins that arcades used to cost per credit* (They're like over 3 dollars now it's fucked up)

[@Egalia_1]

It’s already been said by everyone else but not only is it too expensive, in addition to that the studios immediately put the movies out like 3-4 months later on a streaming service. What’s the point in paying $30~ to see a movie when I can get it for free?

[@Phony81]

So it was my wife's birthday when Furiosa came out. We hadn't gone on a date in a long time. So that was the plan for her birthday. Go out to dinner and go watch the new Furiosa movie in theaters. So we're at the theater after dinner and we see the prices. $18 per ticket. And this theater we went to sold tickets and concessions at the same counter. So we could see the prices of for food items. $12 for a small popcorn. $9 for a small soda. $7 for a small bag of m&ms. We looked at each other can came to a nonverbal agreement. We left ad spent the rest of the of her birthday playing Tekken 8 and Guilty Gear Strive. And then a week later, we watched a torrented copy kf Furiosa on the 65in tv that we bought before the pandemic with lots of homemade kettle corn and homebrewed sweet tea. We would gladly spend the money. But if you make it difficult and undesirable, we will make do.

[@WeCareAlot4693]

Pat quotes Redlettermedia opinions the way Matt quotes OSW Review

[@WeCareAlot4693]

Also, I'm sure these two fucks know ANYTHING about how movie box office numbers work or why theaters aren't as popular or the theater business 😂

[@renaigh]

I didn't go to theatres before Covid.

[@PikaPenny17]

Yeah, Ive never been to a movie theater and I never intend to. For someone with my autism symptoms they sound like hell, and even outside of that they just sound like a worse experience than just buying the movie for your home entertainment system or laptop in pretty much every way.

[@TheDrLeviathan]

My one theater movie this year was Love Lies Bleeding. It was a hard choice, but im super glad i saw it. I just hate i get one a year.

[@Garl_Vinland]

I love Cinema Du parc. Cool that Woolie goes there too.

[@michaelmaguire4147]

10:30 depends on where you live, depends on what you look like. Shit even 10-15 years ago we used to go to the mall every friday, and mall security was constantly harassing all of the HS students, regardless how much we were spending.

[@Reyvierno]

Being extroverted today is saying your favorite anime is Dragon Ball, and being introverted today is saying your favorite anime is Death Note.

[@GrayD_Fox]

what is One Piece?

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

No no, introverted is playing online games and pretending you don’t have a mic, even though it’s right there, and so you master the quick commands to the point of muscle memory.

[@MattManDX1]

I'm introverted, love Dragonball and hate Death Note. Does that make me an extroverted introvert?

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

@@MattManDX1 i guess? the whole analogy doesnt even make sense to me in the first place.

[@stephensmith7327]

An other important thing to consider is the Chinese Bubble has kinda burst due to 2 things, 1) the Chinese Goverment was kind of cooking the books to make it seem like their people have more disposable income then they do and that has kind of stopped(at least for movies) and 2) America has entered a Economic Pissing Contest with China so even the ones who do go to the movies are probably not going out of there way to buy for American Movies. It's not the sole reason for Movies not doing well, but it's why there's a lot less slack.

[@ExeErdna]

Especially when the bubble popped on Disney especially since they were simping hard for them for a smooth decade.

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

@@ExeErdna that word *still* doesn't mean what you people want it to mean. why do i have to *keep* re-iterating that?

[@TheCarlosCobain]

21:37 Fuck, that joke is really solid!

[@scouthatesrainbows]

Here's where I realize once again I am blessed. There's a local Chicagoland theatre chain that actually has reasonable prices (around 8-10 regular, 7 matinee and 6 for cheapie Tuesdays) where I actually can go to the theatre without feeling ripped off. IMO it sounds like most theater chains straight up have terrible value proposition (and I realized Im saying this as if I haven't experienced it, amc theaters in Chicago actually do have those $20 tickets and it's fckin disgusting having to go there lmao)

[@dr6559]

What’s it called? I live around there.

[@scouthatesrainbows]

@@dr6559 classic cinemas. It's not directly in Chicago, more in the nearby suburbs. I've seen prices vary but you shouldn't be paying over $15 and generally you should be paying $10 or less

[@alexanderfreeman3406]

Are people really surprised this movie flopped? Fury Road lost a ton of money - did you really expect a spin-off prequel a decade latter to do better?

[@TheSaltyRice]

To be fair there was the hope that Fury Road becoming a cult classic since then that it would have a decent opening but sadly even Fury Road fans didnt really showed up.

[@JamesBuggemo]

I think you misunderstand. Happy Feet and Babe: Pig in the City ran, so that Fury Road/Furiosa could limp around wherever the fuck they wanted.

[@iller3]

Finally someone not just drinking the Kool Aid here. (this stuff only ever had hype on *_*certain parts_* of Twitter)

[@dullroar2673]

Fury Road made 380 mil on a ~170 mil budget. That's not like, crazy profit but that's not losing money

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

@@iller3I mean, rip anyone who sincerely was interested I guess?

[@WieryTraveler]

You guys have some insane ticket prices there.

[@Pandatege]

ngl i think the moment i started realizing that the box office is not fully reliable and far more easy to manipulate than thought before was like the sound of freedom Technically making fucking bank at the box office but it was putely because of a pay it forward system the studio behind the film did where a bunch of crazy people could buy in bulk and the only people ive seen talk about that movie are people examining it as modern propaganda and how it really leaned in to qanon conspiracy shit and ironically the one uncle in my family who is VERY qanon brained

[@iller3]

It goes both ways... remember how the Joker movie with Joachim Phoenix was like the most profitable thing up to that point but meanwhile all of the Media was telling us it was only made for School Shooters and Incels?

[@thecaptain6520]

​@iller3 tbf the only reason it was successful was because it's batman. The director watched King of Comedy and Taxi Driver and asked, "What if these, but batman?" BAM! Highest-grossing R-rated film

[@chrissmith9167]

@@thecaptain6520Partially, it sold because people were saying it could incite shootings and that gave it an edge. Like how cds would have explicit on their cover to make them sell more, also it’s just a good movie.

[@thecaptain6520]

​@@chrissmith9167 I hear that. I miss when contrarianism was used in marketing. Also I disagree, 5/10, watch King of Comedy instead.

[@Pandatege]

@@iller3 i mean that doesnt really go against my point tho the sound of freedom, in terms of box office hits, doesnt make sense cause the word of mouth was very sparce like say compare it to barbie, oppenheimer, across the spiderverse, or yknow like you said, the joker all those movies had some pretty significant coverage and word of mouth, the joker specifically a little moreso cause the "controversy" of it made it feel like it was edgy and off-limits, which makes people curious about the hubbub, which means more butts in seats, therefore the box office matches that my point was that the sound of freedom's coverage/word of mouth didnt match the box office numbers cause the only time i heard anything about it was like, two video essays a week after it dropped and my uncle talking about it like it was the best thing since the formation of metallica to him, not even any real news coverage until well after the fact because of the "blockbuster box office numbers", which, in turn, if those numbers werent near entirely synthetic, you wouldnt be able to get away from talk of the damn thing, but again there was nary a peep anywhere other than maybe facebook

[@katsasgeorge]

Pat has a tendency of shooting himself in the foot when it comes to media. Him walking into Basterds after already watching a 3 hr film reminds me of how he ruined Halo for himself :p

[@DemonKingCozar]

Do I just leave really far in the boonies because tickets are $5-$10 depending on the day and time you go there

[@domfour8109]

A lot of movies just suck now as well and there's only so many times people will put up with being burned for 60 bucks. I'm at the point where I'm only going to movies I know are going to benefit from being seen in cinema like godzilla or dune, and if that comes at the detriment of other movies that actually are good then so be it. I'm at the point where my time and money are too valuable to risk it now.

[@glassbirdfeather]

A lot of movies have always sucked. The average quality of movie hasn't gone down. But you're more likely to forgive and less likely to remember wasting $7 than wasting $60.

[@cheapbstard]

dang 30$ for movies? they are tweaking with those prices. no way!!

[@Heavyweapop]

Idk man, i think movies just suck ass now. The price stuff for sure has an effect, but trust me when I say people waste their money on WAYYY stupider shit. Inflation has hit everything anyway, not just movies. Movies falling a few points down in the minds of the average person will make other stupid shit more valuable to them.

[@hellsapoppin9326]

We talk about the movie for one sentence but then talk about how much it failed for 20 minutes 😢 i wanted hear about how great the movie was

[@hellsapoppin9326]

OK I made it to the part where they talk about the actual movie😅

[@hellsapoppin9326]

Furiosa rules so hard and the common movie go-er fucking sucks.

[@hellsapoppin9326]

When deadpool 3 makes a billion and Furiosa fails, we truly lost the plot

[@s7robin105]

Look at the box office for the last Blade Runner film. Same thing happened :(

[@hellsapoppin9326]

​@s7robin105 these "failed" great movies will live on in the hearts and minds of everyone that sees them

[@s7robin105]

@@hellsapoppin9326 I actually heard there may be a blade runner show in the works so hopefully the same can happen with Mad Max.

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

Consume

[@saveritas731]

Ironically enough, all that theaters need to do is just lower their ticket prices. They'll make more money because they'll fill more seats.

[@thepickles8833]

I argue the concession prices. Nothing feels more inhospitable then a place of leisurely viewing where the cost of food and drink feels like you're buying a snack priced as a year's supply.

[@thecaptain6520]

I've been saying this since covid, the movie theater is an outdated concept. Covid made people finally realize that, "Wow. I gotta take a piss and now i can actually *pause* this 4-hour torture session!"

[@phuqutoob-pf7pb]

Last movie I saw in theater that was worth the money was RRR

[@ThePlainumAcheiver]

Where on earth are they that these movies are so expensive to see? The movie theaters near me are 11 bucks a ticket. Back in California this year they were 14. You can see movies on Tuesdays for like half off! I get ticket prices are going up, but 60 bucks to see a movie sounds like something they’ve made up, I’ve never seen ticket prices go above 15 dollars a person (also if snacks are so expensive then just don’t get snacks! They’re not required!)

[@ChildeofShade]

Tickets are roughly $15 for IMAX experiences at AMC where I live. We have a nicer theater that costs about $13 for an Adult and $20 for a balcony seat. Popcorn and drink prices have definitely gone up though, as I picked up a medium popcorn and drink and it cost $18. I can easily see it being $50 to $60 for two adults and a snack, but these two are definitely exaggerating the problem.

[@shibukamiya8428]

death of the 3rd space babeyyy

[@NicolasTylerDoyle]

What if a section of Hollywood invested in small short stories that focus on consistent profit. Let’s say you can go buy a ticket for a 90min - 120min screening of 8-9 different short stories from young upcoming filmmakers / big name filmmakers It would satisfy the short attention span and give a variety of visions and tastes, and genre. That seems like something the industry could try out

[@theotherjared9824]

Theatre chains will be gone by the end of the decade. What has a chance to survive and thrive are independant place that hold special events like re-releases and film festivals and screenings for straight to streaming products. Make them swanky and expensive because the people feel like it's a better value.

[@icarus33911]

When's mahvel!?

[@hurdco7]

I didn't see it because the trailer made it look like a mess of CGI. I usually only go to the theaters about 3 times in a year and this didn't feel like one to see and I knew it was coming.

[@Zangelin]

Literally never heard of this movie before. Perhaps part of why it isn't doing so well.

[@Rspit030]

Let me thank pat for finding a baby sitter when he goes to the movies, people that bring babies to theaters are assholes

[@jonl13]

Here’s the problem: we just saw Dune 2 hit Max in less than 3 months from theatrical release. Now Dune 2 did well but moving forward I’m less inclined to go to the theater for a Warner Bros film with the Dune 2 10 week turnaround from theatrical launch to Max debut. Same for Joker 2, Beetlejuice 2 etc

[@Secret_Takodachi]

A ticket at the theater near me costs ~$28 A video making fun of & covering the details of that movie costs me nothing on KZbin. You do the math! 😂 Most movies wouldn't be worth watching even if they were free, even if I wanna see a movie these days. I'm just going to pirate it. Yar har fiddle dee dee you pay for something that I watch for free! Say what you want, but I'll always be me. I am a pirate. WE ALL ARE PIRATES ❤

[@Dragonsmana]

Anecdotal, but i go to a nice theater and even the giant screens are about 12 bucks a seat. When I take my dad, with snacks it totals to at most 60 if we get pretzels and nachoes in addition to popcorn + drinks. Some films are doing great, such as Dune, Godzilla X Kong, the new Apes movie, etc. I think Furiosa just got unlucky despite being a good movie. Doesn't help with the 9 year gap with Fury Road, iron is ice cold at this point. Lots of good films have had this happen, and I hope once it hits streaming or something, it gets the success it deserves.

[@paddington2063]

Man, I hated Furiosa, loved FR. Rewatched FR right beforehand and… oof. First time in awhile that I feel like I disagree with those who I usually agree with

[@TrueLegateDamar]

Didn't hate it but I don't get why people are saying it's great, it's a weak spin-off prequel that went on too long and didn't show anything interest, like the innocent people Furiosa had to murder to be an Imperator and why she felt guilt. She was ridiclously squeaky-clean and does the things she does in Fury Road because 'just because'.

[@jansenart0]

Are there any direct references to the game?

[@MikeJones-qn1gz]

The problem is the cost, like if I want to go see a movie with some friends I expect to spend at least $40-$60 for a ticket, plus another $25-$30 for snacks. Whereas I can just wait and watch it at home and have all the comforts I want.

[@thunderbird2712]

Looking at the comment section, id think most you viewers are developing parasocial isht with pat and woolie😅

[@ButcherGod]

You're a sucker if you are signing up to streaming services. 😏